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Sunday, October 3, 2021 9:34 PM

The Conservatives Dreading — And Preparing for — Civil War

A faction of the right believes America has been riven into two countries. The Claremont Institute is building the intellectual architecture for whatever comes next. (Coup d'état is the next step)

“Let me start big. The mission of the Claremont Institute is to save Western civilization,” says Ryan Williams, the organization’s president, looking at the camera, in a crisp navy suit. “We’ve always aimed high.” A trumpet blares. America’s founding documents flash across the screen. Welcome to the intellectual home of America’s Trumpist right.

As Donald Trump rose to power, the Claremont universe—which sponsors fellowships and publications, including the Claremont Review of Books and The American Mind—rose with him, publishing essays that seemed to capture why the president appealed to so many Americans and attempting to map a political philosophy onto his presidency. Williams and his cohort are on a mission to tear down and remake the right; they believe that America has been riven into two fundamentally different countries, not least because of the rise of secularism. “The Founders were pretty unanimous, with Washington leading the way, that the Constitution is really only fit for a Christian people,” Williams told me. It’s possible that violence lies ahead. “I worry about such a conflict,” Williams told me. “The Civil War was terrible. It should be the thing we try to avoid almost at all costs.” He is totally insincere about 'avoid almost at all costs' because next he says:

“The ideal endgame would be to effect a realignment of our politics and take control of all three branches of government for a generation or two,” Williams said.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20211003035101/https://www.theatlantic.com
/politics/archive/2021/10/claremont-ryan-williams-trump/620252
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 4, 2021 1:21 AM

Dreading?

I think you're overstating half of that story.

I'm down for a purge whenever you are buddy. You just say the word.



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Monday, October 4, 2021 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dreading?

I think you're overstating half of that story.

I'm down for a purge whenever you are buddy. You just say the word.

So . . . you are ready to go violent on the Democrats. Remember the heaps of praise you gave to the movie Joker? Murder as purifying fire for your soul?
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 4, 2021 3:45 PM

Nah, bruh.

Just giving you an invitation to throw the first stone is all, although I would highly recommend against doing it.

There is zero dread or concern on my end if that's how you want to play the game going forward.

Your move.



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Monday, October 4, 2021 6:53 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah, bruh.

Just giving you an invitation to throw the first stone is all, although I would highly recommend against doing it.

There is zero dread or concern on my end if that's how you want to play the game going forward.

Your move.

In the movie clip from Joker, Murray had invited Joker to be on TV. From Joker's viewpoint, Murray was to blame for Joker killing Murray, but from the viewpoint of Batman, Joker was to blame. In a real world example, one that you gave an opinion on, from the viewpoint of Kyle Rittenhouse, the BLM protestors were to blame for Rittenhouse killing them, a defense Rittenhouse's lawyers will be using. Trump voters have the same viewpoint as Rittenhouse. Another real world example: the Confederate slave-owners blamed Lincoln for the Civil War, even after the war was lost and Lincoln was killed. History decided that slave-owners, not Lincoln, were to blame, but 6ixStringJack made snide remarks about Lincoln. Trump and his voters have taken sides on Confederate monuments glorifying the slave-owners.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 4, 2021 7:37 PM

Is that right? I wouldn't know I only saw the movie once a long time ago. You seem to know a lot more about it than I do.

Whatever, psycho.

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Monday, October 4, 2021 9:20 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Is that right? I wouldn't know I only saw the movie once a long time ago. You seem to know a lot more about it than I do.

Whatever, psycho.

You wrote dozens of long comments, even essays, about Joker before it arrived and after, but now you've got amnesia. That is a very odd loss of memory. Trump does the same thing when he is under oath and giving a deposition. So many things he can't recall when asked by a lawyer, but after court reporters stop taking down consequential words, his memory is perfect.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 4, 2021 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by SECOND:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Is that right? I wouldn't know I only saw the movie once a long time ago. You seem to know a lot more about it than I do.

Whatever, psycho.

You wrote dozens of long comments, even essays, about Joker before it arrived and after, but now you've got amnesia.



No. I didn't. You'll find I rarely even talked about any plot points to the movie after the initial few posts with Rappy and SGG.

Most of those dozens of posts you talk about were just rubbing it in that Joker was destroying whatever shit Star Wars flick Disney churned out at the same time, and week to week graphs chronicling the destruction.

You've posted a great magnitude more about actual plot points of the movie Joker all over these boards than I ever did.

Why are you such a hypocrite, liar and completely lacking in any self-awareness?

You have some serious problems.

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Monday, October 4, 2021 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by SECOND:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Is that right? I wouldn't know I only saw the movie once a long time ago. You seem to know a lot more about it than I do.

Whatever, psycho.

You wrote dozens of long comments, even essays, about Joker before it arrived and after, but now you've got amnesia.



No. I didn't. You'll find I rarely even talked about any plot points to the movie after the initial few posts with Rappy and SGG.

Most of those dozens of posts you talk about were just rubbing it in that Joker was destroying whatever shit Star Wars flick Disney churned out at the same time, and week to week graphs chronicling the destruction.

You've posted a great magnitude more about actual plot points of the movie Joker all over these boards than I ever did.

Why are you such a hypocrite, liar and completely lacking in any self-awareness?

You have some serious problems.

Now you're copying Trump. He has done this a million times: "I'm not lying; You're the lying Fake News." But he is lying and 6ix is lying about the movie Joker because 6ix has contemplated violence, same as Joker, who felt as "oppressed" as 6ix, but Joker went ahead and killed his "oppressors". 6ix keeps hinting he will get around to killing his "oppressors" the Democrats because the Democrats are begging to be killed by 6ix, just as Lincoln was to blame for the Civil War killings done by slave-owners (per Confederate President Jefferson Davis' History of the Civil War), just as the BLM movement was to blame for Kyle Rittenhouse killing BLM protestors. Maybe Rittenhouse's defense attorneys can sell those lies to a jury, but in the meantime, Rittenhouse is truly free on bond and his victims are scientifically proven to be dead.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, October 5, 2021 2:23 AM

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Originally posted by SECOND:
Now you're copying Trump.



Show me then, bitch.

Not only didn't I talk much about the plot of the movie, but you're going to be pretty fucking hard pressed to even find any posts of me doing so. My posts before I just went to trolling Disney by showing weekly graphs on how Star Wars was being destroyed by Joker were praise for the film and the emotions it evoked as well as the stellar performance by Phoenix.

I doubt very much you'll even find posts where I went in-depth on any particular scene, and I guaranty you that you'll never dig up a post where I called Joker a hero or even hinted at a shred of admiration for the character that Phoenix portrayed.

You're a piece of shit liar, and I'm calling you out for attempting and failing to project your extremely violent (and heavily archived) tenancies on me.

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