new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
Go ahead and look at the posts from the first five months.
I'm not lying about what everybody else posted. You should all be embarrassed.
And I'M NOT.
I didn't see "panic" in ANY post. You seem to interpret that any post AT ALL about viruses indicates "panic".
But last I checked, this is a Real World Event discussion forum, emphasis on discussion.
For people who are checked into reality on the topic (i.e. not you) this is an event worth discussing.
What I see from YOUR posts is increasing reality-denial. It's one thing to say "Don't panic" it's another to deny reality completely.
I think you're reading waaaaaay too much into what was posted
But if you think there was "panic" anywhere, quote it.
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Now, if you want to see REAL concern, how about these? Because, THIS event really had me concerned:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=47835 Nuclear power is safe, exceptwhen it's not Mar 13, 2011
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=47864 A few random thoughts mar 15, 2011
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=47997 TEPCO poisons Japan with plutonium smoking pot still illegal mar 26, 2011
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=48169 Hold on to your butts Apr 12, 2011
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=48481 All the news not fit to hear May 11, 2011
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=48481&p=1 News not fit to hear Jun 13, 2011
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=48705 Japan confirms full meltdown Jun 11, 2011
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=48904&mid=8
51179 Core overload? June 27, 2011
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=51915&p=1 Never before seen in the history of the world May 14, 2012
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=51652 Fukushi ... San Francisco Apr 15, 2012
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=49430&p=1 ground venting radioactive steam Aug 2011
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=52443&p=1 Total media blackout July 8, 2012
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53269&p=1 Just because it's important Oct 12, 2012
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=51006&p=1 Why we're all gonna die Feb 12, 2012
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=58737&p=1 And meanwhile ... Oct 26 2014
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=50710 Meanwhile Jan 10, 2012
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=55891 OH SHIT
Missing, apparently, is the thread where hubby and I attempted to back-calculate the amount of nuclear fuel melted based on the hydrogen involved in the hydrogen explopsion. We estimated the size of the reactor building in CF, then calculated a range based on the lower and upper explosive limits of hydrogen. what we estimated was far lower than actuality.
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And just for fun
A Guy Walks Into a Bar ....
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=27799&p=1
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We know Jack can have powerful anxiety, for example his anxiety about his house was enough for him to go on a multi-year non-stop bender. (And congratulations to Jack for finding a way to get past his anxiety, even though it was at the cost of believing the unreality that he's in complete control.)
I think Jack's answer to anything that's out of his control that makes him feel anxious is denial ... along with a hefty dose of projection. It's all 'their' fault for evilly trying to make him feel threatened with their 'lies' and 'panic'.
But enough about Jack.
This is a thread about a Real World Event.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
We know Jack can have powerful anxiety, for example his anxiety about his house was enough for him to go on a multi-year non-stop bender. (And congratulations to Jack for finding a way to get past his anxiety, even though it was at the cost of believing the unreality that he's in complete control.)
The house didn't put me on a bender. I put me on a bender.
I didn't have any issues with my house when I started drinking.
Then I fixed my drinking issue without any bullshit 12 step program or needing to "find God" first. My drinking was due to depression. Not anxiety.
I overcame that nearly life-ending adversity entirely on my own.
And after that, I fixed the house issues that crept up due to my negligence.
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I think Jack's answer to anything that's out of his control that makes him feel anxious is denial ... along with a hefty dose of projection. It's all 'their' fault for evilly trying to make him feel threatened with their 'lies' and 'panic'.
I have zero anxiety about the pandemic, and have since day one.
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But enough about Jack.
Yes. I agree. You should stop obsessing over me.
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This Is A Game-Changer" - Merck Releasing "Phenomenal" Test Results For Experimental COVID Pill
Friday, Oct 01, 2021 - 07:45 AM
Looks like Merck just beat Pfizer to the punch.
Merck announced Friday that an experimental COVID pill it has developed reduced hospitalizations and deaths by 50% in people recently infected with COVID.
The company will soon ask health officials in the US and abroad to authorize use of the drug.
The news came as a welcome surprise to the public, although COVID cases are already waning in the US and in hard-hit economies in Asia, the drug could create "a real therapeutic advance" that could dramatically decrease the risk of death from COVID.
If approved (and odds are it will be) the drug would be the first treatment for COVID. Some compared it to tamiflu, in that patients should take it within 5 days of COVID infection (like those infected with the flu are instructed to take tamiflu early).
Former FDA Director Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNBC that the trial results are clearly "profoundly" positive, even though researchers decided to stop the trial early because the drug showed significant success, meaning it would be unethical to keep giving patients placebos. To test the drug, they needed to test more than 700 unvaccinated people in a global study. The people were all considered in the "high risk" category due to factors like age, and other characteristics from their "health profile".
Per the results, 7% of volunteers in the group that received the drug were hospitalized, and none of them died, compared with a 14% rate of hospitalization and death (include eight who died) in the placebo group.
According to Dr. Gottlieb, "this is a phenomenal result. This is a profound game-changer that we have an oral pill that had this kind of effect on patients who are already symptomatic."
Dr. Gottlieb also pointed out that the team that developed the drug "also invented the first successful antibody against ebola so this is a very good drug-development team."
"And remember we have two other drugs in development one by Pfizer (where Dr. Gottlieb serves on the board) and the other by Roches," he said.
Patients won't be taking the drug for very long, typically around five days, which means "the safety profile is probably pretty good," Dr. Gottlieb said.
Per the NYT, "the Merck pill’s efficacy was lower than that of monoclonal antibody treatments, which mimic antibodies that the immune system generates naturally when fighting the virus. Those drugs have been in high demand recently, but they are expensive, are typically given intravenously, and have proved cumbersome and labor-intensive for hospitals and clinics to administer. Studies have shown that they reduce hospitalizations and deaths 70 to 85 percent in similar high-risk Covid patients."
The Merck drug is significantly chemically different from the Pfizer drug that's in its final round of studies, which means there's the possibility of creating a cocktail of anti-viral treatments for COVID. Merck has said it can produce 10MM pills by the end of this year, and Dr. Gottlieb said he expects they'll ramp up production quickly by partnering with other companies.
Merck partnered with a small firm called Ridgeback Biotherapeutics to develop the drug, which is called Molnupiravir. While the study results haven't yet been peer reviewed, at least one independent group of medical experts have given the research their blessing.
"This is a milestone in the fight against COVID," Dr. Gottlieb said.
So, is the prospect of a return to "normality" really on the table? I suppose we're about to find out.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/game-changer-merck-releasing-phenome
nal-test-results-experimental-covid-pill
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Oh, I was going to post that! Never mind!
Here's another version of the same story
The trial enrolled people who had newly tested positive for a SARS-CoV-2 infection and had onset of mild-to-moderate COVID-19 symptoms within just the past five days of starting the trial. The enrollees also had to have at least one risk factor for a poor outcome, such as having obesity, diabetes, heart disease, or being age 60 or above. While some participants received a placebo and standard care, others took an oral dose of the drug every 12 hours for five days.
After 29 days of follow-up, 53 out of 377 participants who received the placebo were hospitalized with COVID-19, and eight of those participants died. Among those who received the drug, only 28 of 385 were hospitalized and none of those patients died.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/10/meet-molnupiravir-mercks-thor-
inspired-pill-that-hammers-covid/
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Sounds like state-funded murder to me.
There's a lot of people with diabetes and who are fat or have other health issues that aren't dying. Then this huge group comes together and they murder a bunch of them for Science.
Labrats, only with half the brains.
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Unfortunately that's the way studies have to be done. In order to see if a treatment does any good you need one group who receives the "standard of care" (control) and the other group who receives the new treatment. The "gold standard" is whar they call "double blind", in which the control group gets a placebo (in this case, that would be a lookalike pill) where neither the control group nor the medical staf know who is getting what. That prevemts unsonscious bias from either the patients or the medical staff from creepong in and affecting either the actions or evaluations of the staff.
But whether theyre doing randomized, double-blind or "open" studies, they have to enroll patients under "informed consent". They don't just randomly pick and choose.
I was recently offerred the option of being in two clinical trials (one randomized, one open). I declined both.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Unfortunately that's the way studies have to be done. In order to see if a treatment does any good you need one group who receives the "standard of care" (control) and the other group who receives the new treatment. The "gold standard" is whar they call "double blind", in which the control group gets a placebo (in this case, that would be a lookalike pill) where neither the control group nor the medical staf know who is getting what. That prevemts unsonscious bias from either the patients or the medical staff from creepong in and affecting either the actions or evaluations of the staff.
But whether theyre doing randomized, double-blind or "open" studies, they have to enroll patients under "informed consent". They don't just randomly pick and choose.
21% of Americans are functionally illiterate. How many of these people were? Did they all have lawyers with them when the signed the release forms? Because of the 69% that are just above functionally illiterate or better, most of them have no idea how to read fine print legalese gobbledygook either.
These people were murdered without their knowledge or legitimate consent.
Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God. ~From the Modern Hippocratic Oath, Louis Lasagna
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I was recently offerred the option of being in two clinical trials (one randomized, one open). I declined both.
Of course. You're not an idiot. You didn't even need to read the lawyerspeak to know it was a bad idea.
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I can't speak for all, or most Americans, I can only speak for myself.
There are reasons NOT to take part in clinical trials, just as there are reasons to take part in clinical trials.
Some people are paid to join. Some people are looking for freebie evaluation and treatment for their ailment. Sometimes people join them out of the goodness of their hearts for the advancement of science. Sometimes peple join them as a last desperate gamble to cure an incurable disease.
There are also legitimate reasons to decline. Sometimes people don't want to be in a "placebo" group. Sometimes they feel their best option is with the current standard of care, or that the new treatment presents unacceptable risk of side effects.
It's a legitimate choice that offers both reward and risk either way. However it happens, that's how treatment is advanced.
Another way is what they call "off-label" use of a currently-approved drug. When faced with (a) patient(s) with a novel disease, desperate doctors sometimes try the "shotgun" approach and try different things. Occasionally they hit on something that works, so they write up a "Case study" report. enuf accumulated successful case studies, and other doctors start to rely on that treatment plan.
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None of that changes the fact that they were murdered for Science.
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