new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Hmmm. That IS unexpected, SECOND.
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To clarify, cytokine storm is NOT the same thing as antibody-dependent enhanced (ADE) infection, which is another thing altogether.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32785649/
ADE is specific to certain viruses like dengue. It's yet another one of those apparently baseless fears about Covid-19 vaccines.
I'm talking about cytokine storm, which I will be looking into. The problem with CS is that there are a lot of different triggers -some of them genetic-but it seems like nobody has a handle on what triggers it in some people but almost nobody else, and in the case of COVID-19 what makes the elderly (and obese young) more prone to CS than others.
To reiterate, cytokines are NOT antibodies.
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link to original mask study
https://www.poverty-action.org/sites/default/files/publications/Mask_R
CT____Symptomatic_Seropositivity_083121.pdf
I'd say that the demographics of Bangladesh are highly different from those of the US. So I'd apply those results to here with caution.
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Masks don't do anything because nobody is requiring people to wear N95 masks.
With what most people are covering their faces with it's like using a fishnet stocking as a condom.
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Quote:Sounds painful. I hope you don't know this from experience!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Masks don't do anything because nobody is requiring people to wear N95 masks.
With what most people are covering their faces with it's like using a fishnet stocking as a condom.
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But I'm not wrong, am I?
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Two top vaccine effectiveness and safety FDA people recently resigned, Marion F Gruber and Philip R Krause. This story's getting a small amount of coverage, but not as much as I think it deserves.
Dr. Marion Gruber, the director of the F.D.A.'s vaccines office, will retire at the end of October, and her deputy, Dr. Philip Krause, will leave in November ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/us/politics/fda-vaccine-regulators-
booster-shots.html
The reason why they would resign from their top positions may be because that part of the FDA was being sidelined in the vax booster debate, in favor of the CDC and other areas of the FDA.
Recently they were coauthors in a group of authors that penned a booster-debate letter printed in The Lancet. Here's the link, but it's far too long to try and reproduce here.
Quote:Obviously they're not anti-vax, so that's not the reason for the article. Basically the argument boils down to this: vaxes are too important a resource for the unvaccinated to blanket-advise wasting shots on already-vaxed people, because boosters have no clearly demonstrated benefit. To stop severe disease (and death), one needs to focus on getting everybody vaxed because vaxes are still highly effective.
Considerations in boosting COVID-19 vaccine immune responses
Philip R Krause, Thomas R Fleming, Richard Peto, Ira M Longini, J Peter Figueroa, Jonathan A C Sterne, Alejandro Cravioto, Helen Rees, Julian P T Higgins, Isabelle Boutron, Hongchao Pan, Marion F Gruber, Narendra Arora, Fatema Kazi, Rogerio Gaspar, Soumya Swaminathan, Michael J Ryan, Ana-Maria Henao-Restrepo
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2821%2902046-8
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Current evidence does not, therefore, appear to show a need for boosting in the general population, in which efficacy against severe disease remains high. The ability of vaccines that present the antigens of earlier phases of the pandemic (the alpha strain) (rather than variant-specific antigens) to elicit humoral (antibody) immune responses against currently circulating variants indicates that these variants have not yet evolved to the point at which they are likely to escape the memory immune responses induced by those vaccines.
... careful observational studies that examine efficacy against severe disease remain useful and are less likely to be affected by diagnosis-dependent biases over time than are observational studies of milder disease, and could therefore provide useful indicators of any changes in vaccine-induced protection. (Monitoring for severe disease with new variants is more indicative of changing vax effectiveness, because there are too many confounding influences when looking at milder diseases.)
Although vaccines are less effective against asymptomatic disease or against transmission than against severe disease, even in populations with fairly high vaccination rates the unvaccinated are still the major drivers of transmission and are themselves at the highest risk of serious disease. The message that boosting might soon be needed, if not justified by robust data and analysis, could adversely affect confidence in vaccines and undermine messaging about the value of primary vaccination.
If boosters (whether expressing original or variant antigens) are ultimately to be used, there will be a need to identify specific circumstances in which the direct and indirect benefits of doing so are, on balance, clearly beneficial.
The vaccines that are currently available are safe, effective, and save lives. The limited supply of these vaccines will save the most lives if made available to people who are at appreciable risk of serious disease and have not yet received any vaccine. Even if some gain can ultimately be obtained from boosting, it will nNOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
OTOH supposedly there are vials being tossed out bc they've reached expiry. (Bc of American vaccine reluctance.)
So, what is it?
Scarcity or surplus?
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Meanwhile, back in the US, the Washington Post just reported - in an "exclusive" scoop likely spoon-fed to its journalists - that the administration is planning to buy hundreds of millions of additional doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech jab to donate to less fortunate countries from around the world. The announcement is expected to be made around the start of next week's United Nations General Assembly meeting, though the details haven't yet been finalized.
Some might say the administration's latest "gift" is merely more transparent virtue signaling as Biden continues to push booster jabs in the US against the wishes of the WHO.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/pfizer-says-mysterious-white-partic
les-found-japanese-jabs-are-safe
Confirmed here
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/us/politics/biden-covid-summit.html
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I originally posted this in the herd immunity thread but it really belongs here
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Why Does No One Ever Talk About Sweden Anymore?
Friday, Sep 17, 2021 - 03:30 AM
Via 'Unmasked" substack,
One of the most consistently repeated trends of COVID has been the premature declarations of victory from areas with a perceived level of “success” in “controlling” the pandemic.
It’s happened in countries all over the world — Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, Mongolia — just to name a few examples. They all have been praised for their ability to “control” the virus with masks and public health measures, only to then see cases invariably skyrocket.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/why-does-no-one-ever-talk-about-swe
den-anymore
Well, yes, We've heard much about Sweden.
At one time I compared Sweden to Finland and it nearest neighbor, demographically and geographically, Norway,
So, how DOES it stack up to other nations in terms of controlling Covid-19?
First of all, overall the sequence of peaks in cases and deaths doesn't match. There is an early peak in "deaths" UNACCOMPANIED for the most part by "cases" because the lack of test kits early on prevented a confirmed SARS-Cov2 infection, altho clinical picture and excess deaths support the attribution to Covid. After that, "cases" and "deaths" show the expected correlation.
SWEDEN'S basic numbers per 100,000
Cases, peaks: 73, 60, 10 (delta)
Deaths, peaks: early (before "cases") 1, midpoint 1.6, late (delta) near zero
AUSTRALIA
Cases: near zero thru the duration until (delta) when it rose to 7
Deaths: (early) 0.08, then near zero, currently (delta) 0.03
ISRAEL
Cases, three peaks, (early midoint) 70, (midpoint) 90, and (delta) 110
Deaths, (early midpoint) 0.4, (midpoint) 0.7, (delta) 0.3
NOTE: Israel missed the first wave of death
JAPAN
Cases: (midpoint) 5, (late midpoint) 4, (delta) 20 and dropping
Deaths (Midpoint) 0.08, (late midpoint) 0.08, (delta) 0.03
NOTE: Japan missed the first waves of death. Also, Japan's population is elderly
NORWAY
Cases (midpoint) 12, (late midpoint)17, (delta) 27
Deaths (early) 0.2 early, (midpoint) 0.1 (delta) near 0.
NOTE: Norway is Sweden's nearest geographic, cultural and demographic neighbor. Its death rate has been near zero except when otherwise noted.
VIETNAM
Cases: near zero until (delta), where it has leveled off at 13.
Deaths: appx 0.3 throughout
So, in terms of controlling Covid-19, Sweden has NOT done a fantastic job, and all of the other nations that this article tries to spin as "failures" have been more successful, some wildly so.
The authors COULD have argued that the economic price to pay for avoiding all of that suffering and death was too high. But that would have meant a messy argument about values, so they decided to be dishonest and spin the data instead.
EDITED TO ADD UNITED STATES per 100,000 (for comparison)
Cases: (early midpoint) 20, (midpoint) 70, 75*, (delta) 55
Deaths: (early) 0.7, (early midpoint) 0.3, (midpoint) 0.85, 1.1, (delta) 0.6
* The USA is geographically large and politically diverse, and had MANY "waves" of infections and deaths - some larger than others- as SARS-CoV2 spread into new areas. There were two more identifiable "waves" that I didn't mention because they weren't as significant.
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Vaccine reluctance is one fly in the ointment about their letter.
If US people weren't getting vaxed because there was a vax scarcity, then it might be prudent to divert those shots from boosters to initial vaxes. Or, more altruistically, if the US could divert its unused vaxes (before expiry) to places around the planet where people really want to get vaxed, at least they'd be doing some good, somewhere - and that benefit eventually might even circle back to here, in the form of fewer variants. But 'saving' vaccines for initial vaccinations that aren't going to happen is pretty silly, imo.
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