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Saturday, September 4, 2021 9:46 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's at least 3 new Star Trek shows that prove that Leftists don't give a shit about Star Trek or the Prime Directive.

Are you talking about Star Trek Lower Decks, because things go horribly wrong and funny on that cartoon whenever it rubs against the Prime Directive:



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 5, 2021 12:52 AM

Oh. You mean that woke trash cartoon nobody watches?

Nah...

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Sunday, September 5, 2021 6:35 PM

Terror Attacks Berlin?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/get-accept-unvetted-refugees-
afghan-slashes-berlin-womans-throat-gardening
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Originally posted by THG:
Women's rights



Do you think the German jihad is a recent arrival or just an Afgahn that they wasted their money and time for months and montsha nd years trying to make 'European'


Star Trek is dead to me, I have tried to watch new Star Trek but I can't for me I might have to admit it died with Roddenberry

It was alwasy on tv when I was growing up, Janeway and Voyager was always on tv, other shows like Deep Space Nine or the Next Generation or Animated Trek could be seen on re-runs, Broadcast syndication, some purist people din't any other Treks there was only Captain Kirk and the Movies. star Trek ran its voyage and then Other shows like Firefly, the Mandalorian, toons like Futurama, the Orville and Farscape came along that were simply better scifi...while Star Trek lost what made it unique.

I took many things from Trek, I understood the guy who created it was a Leftist, he was probably a type of futurist and liberal progressive but I wonder did he also have hidden conservative messages underneath that would be taboo today, I understand the Foudnation is run by Rod Roddenberry the son who enevr knew the show but then studied the lfie work of his father.

Prime Directive - do not sell high tech, or guns or new scifi type missiles
to Lower civilisations
I wonder is there a message here
Maybe the PRIME DIRECTIVE is one of the Trek Federation's most sacred laws,

a mohammedan stone age culture that attacks young and old, that prays to a bandit terrorist named moohammad, a culture mutilates the genitals of kids and has 'bacha bazi' stones women to death, a culture that throws gays of high buildings

Why sell these guys more boimbs and guns....why gift them high tech weapons from the USA...Not Russia, not Britain, not Israel, not Ukraine, NOT the USA, NOBODY should be making contact with the islamist and sell the jihadis weapons!!!

its common sense

That's one of the messages I think StarTrek told


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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Being the "last" soldier isn't much honor if the Pentagon drops bombs on Afghanistan after today.
Hence my question that has yet to be answered - are we out of Afghanistan like we were out of Vietnam? ... or out of Afghanistan like we were out of Syria?



After the USA pulled out of Vietnam no Buddhists or Vietcong launched kamikaze jihad attacks on US soil

As for Assad he was probably one of the better, 'ood guys' for lack of a better term
the other choice was ISIS and a bunch fo other islamist jihadi mohammedans

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Sunday, September 5, 2021 11:26 PM

The funniest criticism of the original Star Trek came from, I believe Isaac Azimov.

The only part that I remember, but I remember to this day, was his criticism that they potentially decapitated their ship by sending down the Captain, Chief Medical Officer, Chief Science Officer, the Chief Engineer ... and some hapless throwaway crew member ... to hostile situations or to new planets in every episode.

The comment as I recall went something like ... "They have 400 crew members but you never really see them. What are they doing ... stoking coal?"

Yeah, I did like the original Star Trek except for the Captain who was an overacted blowhard. Aside from him, it was a good show.

Oh wow. Waaaaay off topic. My bad!

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Monday, September 6, 2021 5:14 AM

How the US created a world of endless war

In 2008, many of Barack Obama’s supporters hoped he would bring the global war on terror to a close. Instead, he expanded it – and his successors have done nothing to change course

by Samuel Moyn, 31 Aug 2021

On 23 May 2013, the peace activist Medea Benjamin attended a speech by President Barack Obama at Fort McNair in Washington DC, where he defended his administration’s use of armed drones in counter-terrorism. During his speech, Benjamin interrupted the president to criticise him for not having closed Guantánamo Bay and for pursuing military solutions over diplomatic ones. She was swiftly ejected by military police and the Secret Service. The Washington Post later dismissed her as a “heckler”. Obama himself had been more reflective at the event, engaging with her criticisms, which led to even deeper self-criticism of his own. It was the moment of greatest moral clarity about war during a presidency that did more than any other to bring its endless and humane American form fully into being.

For all its routine violence, the American way of war is more and more defined by a near complete immunity from harm for the American side and unprecedented care when it comes to killing people on the other.

Obama had run as a kind of anti-war candidate in his fairytale 2008 campaign, and when it turned out that he was a hard-bitten pragmatist, in this and other areas, many of his supporters were surprised. Obama expanded the “war on terror” to an awesome extent, while making it sustainable for a domestic audience in a way his predecessor never did – in part because Obama understood the political uses of transforming American warfare in a humane direction.

“Lawyerliness suffused the Obama administration,” observed Charlie Savage, the New York Times reporter who broke many explosive national security stories during the Obama years. But that lawyerliness often served as an elaborate rationalisation process. The president’s men and women, Savage has written, “were trying to fight al-Qaida while adhering to what they saw as the rule of law”. Though what they saw as the rule of law meant little more than self-regulation, their commitment to humane standards of fighting war – while by no means perfect in legal theory or military practice – had rhetorical power for some Americans, significant effects on the fighting itself, and helped produce endless war.

Much more at https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/31/how-the-us-created-a-w
orld-of-endless-war


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, September 6, 2021 5:27 AM

Deep Space Nine was the best Trek.

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THG
Tuesday, September 7, 2021 3:50 AM

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Originally posted by second:

How the US created a world of endless war

In 2008, many of Barack Obama’s supporters hoped he would bring the global war on terror to a close. Instead, he expanded it – and his successors have done nothing to change course

by Samuel Moyn, 31 Aug 2021





You mean like pull out of Afghanistan? Come on man.

T


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Wednesday, September 8, 2021 11:39 PM

How the U.S. Military Lied About the 9/11 Wars

For generals like David Petraeus and Lloyd Austin, there has been no punishment for 20 years of disinformation on Afghanistan and Iraq.

Pretty much every day since 9/11, the U.S. military has disciplined soldiers who failed to do their jobs properly. They have been punished for minor offenses, like being late for duty, and for serious crimes, such as murder or assault. Since 2001, there have been more than 1.3 million cases of discipline in the armed forces, according to the Pentagon’s annual reports on military justice.

But the generals who misled Congress and the American public about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have not needed to worry about negative consequences for their careers. After 20 years of conducting a disinformation campaign about what was really happening on the ground, not a single U.S. general has faced any punishment. The reverse happened — they were praised for their deceptively upbeat assessments and given more stars, and when they retired with generous military pensions, they landed high-paying jobs on corporate boards, further profiting from their disingenuousness.

This disconnect is getting new scrutiny after the collapse of the American campaign in Afghanistan. Last month, a Marine officer posted a video in which he scorched the country’s generals for the chaos of the evacuations from Kabul. His video went viral, especially on right-wing platforms that prefer to focus only on the war’s final act under President Joe Biden. But Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller’s video — which elicited a rapid reaction from the military’s machinery of discipline, with Scheller being relieved of his command in hours — has stirred up a deeper critique of America’s generals.

“Four-star general officers are treated with great respect in the U.S. military — akin to modern day viceroys,” wrote Andrew Milburn, a retired colonel, in an article in Marine Corps Times last week. “Their exalted position shouldn’t ­permit them to execute without ­question an interminable and costly war to no end. Or, worse, to offer ­continuous assurance that the war was going well when it wasn’t. … Despite two wars that have seen their shares of disasters — not a single general officer has been relieved of his duties for incompetence.”

In Afghanistan and Iraq, several hundred thousand civilians and combatants have perished (including more than 7,000 American soldiers), millions of people have become refugees, and trillions of dollars have been wasted. Politicians were responsible for this, pundits were responsible, and so-called experts from think tanks were responsible too. But the generals were closest to these wars and most aware, or should have been, of what was happening. Few were closer or profited more than two in particular: Gen. Lloyd Austin, who is now secretary of defense, and Gen. David Petraeus, one of the most lauded military figures of the past 20 years.

. . . A few years after the invasion, Austin returned to Iraq as the commander of U.S. forces there, and later he took charge of Central Command, the headquarters for military operations in the Middle East and Afghanistan. His charmed path became even more charmed after he retired from the military. In addition to drawing a monthly pension of about $15,000, Austin joined several corporate boards, including the board of directors of United Technologies Corporation, the military contractor that merged with Raytheon in 2020, from which he has received more than $1.5 million, and advisory boards at Booz Allen Hamilton and a private equity firm called Pine Island Capital Partners. Biden’s secretary of defense owns a $2.6 million mansion in the Washington, D.C., area with seven bedrooms, a five-car garage, two kitchens, and a pool house.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20210908173446/https://theintercept.com/20
21/09/08/afghanistan-iraq-generals-soldiers-disciplined-911
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, September 9, 2021 3:50 AM


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Originally posted by second:

How the US created a world of endless war

In 2008, many of Barack Obama’s supporters hoped he would bring the global war on terror to a close. Instead, he expanded it – and his successors have done nothing to change course

by Samuel Moyn, 31 Aug 2021


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:


You mean like pull out of Afghanistan? Come on man.

T






Trump negotiated the deal to get us out of Afghanistan. Biden implemented it.

Obama was a war dweeb who never saw an chance to kill people that he didn't like, including expanding the US war in Afghanistan. Hillary was his chief assassin.

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