Taliban winning in Afghanistan
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For Two Decades, Americans Told One Lie After Another About What They Were Doing in Afghanistan
In the immediate aftermath of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in late 2001, U.S.-backed Afghan warlord Abdul Rashid Dostum’s forces murdered hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Taliban prisoners by jamming them into metal shipping containers and letting them suffocate. At the time, Dostum was on the CIA’s payroll and had been working with U.S. special forces to oust the Taliban from power.
The Bush administration blocked subsequent efforts to investigate the mass murder, even after the FBI interviewed witnesses among the surviving Afghans who had been moved to the U.S. prison in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and after human rights officials publicly identified the mass grave site where Dostum’s forces had disposed of bodies. Later, President Barack Obama promised to investigate, and then took no action.
Instead, Hollywood stepped in and turned Dostum into a hero. The 2018 movie, “12 Strong,” a jingoistic account of the partnership between U.S. special forces and Dostum in the 2001 invasion, whitewashed Dostum — even as his crimes continued to pile up in the years after the prisoner massacre.
More at https://theintercept.com/2021/08/26/afghanistan-america-failures/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Why believe anything you hear about it now?
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Quote:My grandmother believed the moon landings were fake and professional wrestling was real. She got pretty mixed-up about what to believe and what to disbelieve, but she was from Nebraska and voted for Republicans who confuse the difference between reality and unreality.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why believe anything you hear about it now?
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1KIKI: Well, then you agree with me ...
SECOND: I have NO IDEA what is going on inside your head that you bizarrely think I agree with.
I thought it was pretty obvious ...
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Signy - just a comment. Do you see where Obama made things better for US manufacturing? Yeah, neither do I.
SECOND: Snicker all you want, but laughing shows you never will understand that there has never been a factory built anywhere in the world to create employment
So. Since "never" includes Obama's reign, you just agreed with KIKI that Obama didn't make things better for US manufacturing.
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SIGNYM:
So, SECOND, it sounds like you're conceding both of your points
a) That USA manufacturing is robust and
b) That the ONLY driver of manufacturing policy is cutting costs by reducing labor
SECOND: Except in countries...
Sounds like you agree with me here, too. First you make a universal statement, and then when you get called on it you start clawing back rather significant exceptions.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:My grandmother believed the moon landings were fake and professional wrestling was real. She got pretty mixed-up about what to believe and what to disbelieve, but she was from Nebraska and voted for Republicans who confuse the difference between reality and unreality.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why believe anything you hear about it now?
I disagree that you can compare anything going on in Sandland to either WWF or the moon landing.
You're an idiot.
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Quote:Here is a Universal Statement: Congress has the power and Presidents don’t have the power to bring back factories from China to America. Congress can increase factory employment as much as is humanly possible. Never did Obama or Trump have that kind of power. FDR looked like he had such power, but that was because 74 Senators were Democrats and they permitted FDR to push around the richest American factory owners during WWII. The history of the Ford Motor Company during WWII is very instructive on how the government can bend the arm of a very rich man who absolutely doesn't want to cooperate with winning a war. There was also plenty of money involved to get the sullen cooperation of American factory owners.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
SIGNYM:
So, SECOND, it sounds like you're conceding both of your points
a) That USA manufacturing is robust and
b) That the ONLY driver of manufacturing policy is cutting costs by reducing labor
SECOND: Except in countries...
Sounds like you agree with me here, too. First you make a universal statement, and then when you get called on it you start clawing back rather significant exceptions.
What happened to the super-majority in 1936 of 74 Senators? It steadily decreased year after year until 1946, when Republicans had a majority. This decrease certainly did not occur because things were going from bad to worse. Actual, things were getting better and better, but no Republican would believe it. Ex-President Herbert Hoover was flat out calling FDR a Commie during all those years.
You can trace how Americans can be stupid about letting the economically successful Democratic political party rule and replacing it with the economic ignoramuses of the GOP, who say the Democrats are Commies at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_United_States_Senate_elections
The voters believed that baldfaced lie about Democrats being Communists. The dumber voters still do believe it.
Here is another Universal Statement: Riches go to the quick. Troubles with staying in the middle class go to the slow and gullible, especially in America where anything that helps the slow is called Communism and anything that helps the quick is called Capitalism.
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You're so delusional it's impossible to even have a conversation with you.
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Quote:Like you call ME a commie?
SIGNYM:
So, SECOND, it sounds like you're conceding both of your points
a) That USA manufacturing is robust and
b) That the ONLY driver of manufacturing policy is cutting costs by reducing labor
SECOND: Except in countries...
SIGNY: Sounds like you agree with me here, too. First you make a universal statement, and then when you get called on it you start clawing back rather significant exceptions.
SECOND: Ex-President Herbert Hoover was flat out calling FDR a Commie during all those years.
Quote:And the greedy. That IS the nature of capitalism, is it not?
SECOND: Here is another Universal Statement: Riches go to the quick.
Every man for himself, and God against all?
Devil take the hindmost?
The power to disposses others of their labor and their wealth?
Just OOC, SECOND, do you square your Christian ethics with your rentier capitalism by telling yourself "I pay my taxes"?
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I don't believe that Second has any Christian ethics.
He talks a lot about religion while arguing, but I think that's only because he's using it as a tool to try to win an argument.
It breaks his brain that I'm not a Republican. It's particularly evident when he starts "preaching" religion at me as if trying to catch me in some sort of hypocritical behavior because he assumes that I must be religious, as an extension of him assuming since I'm not a Democrat that I'm Republican.
That doesn't work though when I give it 50/50 that it's all fairy tales.
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