Some Covid-19 thoughts
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Quote:You know what? You sound like Jayne. A Firefly episode would have Jayne refusing to be vaccinated. River, who is now the pilot, would lift off without Jayne, leaving him to be killed by Reavers. River would justify to Mal not going back for Jayne: "Either the virus or the Reavers will eat him, but the Reavers are quicker." Mal can't argue with that logic. Mal never much liked Jayne, anyway.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Good.
Fuck your vaccine.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
I'm pretty sure this is the only Firefly™ comment I've see so far. I think the entire attitude of everyone in the show would be undeniably clear on this point. Even Simon, who afterall had been through all of this already.
I also don't doubt that the thespians who created this, whedon included, haven't become goosestepping gigacucks in support of the global extermination.
That's the paradox of american theater. it's run by gay jewish outcasts of the borg cube, but is portraying chad heroes who solve problems and survive, because people who write books wrote the stories they're borrowing from.
keep the shiny side up
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Gov. Ron DeSantis threatens to withhold the paychecks of school board members who defy his mask ban
Business Insider
Florida governor's office says state could withhold salaries of officials who enact school mask mandates
CNN
Florida Gov. DeSantis to school officials: Enforce mask mandate, get your salaries withheld
Yahoo News
Opinion | Why our school district is defying Florida's ban on mask mandates — even if it means we lose funding
The Washington Post
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Sometimes an earlier post doesn't show up until much later, which is how I missed this one of yours. We both addressed the same article, just in different threads.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
KIKI: I know that YOU know that the reporting on Covid-19 is entirely distorted, and that you would make mincemeat of the following article, if you bothered to read it at all, since the print version is only good for wrapping fishQuote:First of all, getting vaccinated DOES reduce the chance of getting infected by about 40% according to Israel, which has a high (60%) vaccination rate. Obviously not foolproof but MUCH better than paper masks.
They are just making up narratives now, and the media are not calling them out on it….
The Director of the CDC made an important admission during an interview today on CNN. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky stated the vaccine does not prevent COVID-19 infection, nor does it stop the vaccinated person from transmitting the infection or the delta variant. According to Director Walensky, the only benefit from the vaccine now is ,presumably ,that it reduces the severity of symptoms.
Secondly, "presumably" reduce the severity of symptoms? I've been following Divoc-91, and in every nation where the vulnerable are vaccinated, the "case rate" and "death rate" have taken a sharp divergence. There is no "presumption" here.Quote:Not true, according to the data
If a vaccinated and non-vaccinated person have the same capacity to carry, shed and transmit the virus – with or without symptomsQuote:Well, I watched it, and THAT IS NOT WHAT SHE SAID.
– then what difference does a vaccination passport or vaccination ID make?
According to the CDC TODAY, both the vaxxed and non-vaxxed person walking into a restaurant, store, group, venue or workplace present the exact same risk to other people there, so how does the presentation of proof of vaccine make any difference? WATCH:
(UPDATE – Google removed the video, I replaced with Rumble)
What she said was IF you're infectedou have the same chance of passing on the virus.
This wouldn't be the first time that some have lied about data, or what people have said about data. Not a big fan of the CDC, bu when you have to outright lie to make your point (like the guy who said that there was no difference in fatality rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, and used SAFETY DATA) then obviously you have no point to make.Quote:WHERE IS THE DATA? Because the data that *I* saw sys no such thing
Additionally, her entire statement makes no sense. There is no evidence that vaccinated asymptomatic carriers are asymptomatic because of the vaccine. There are likely just as many asymptomatic non-vaccinated carriers. The data shows an equally distributed infection rate regardless of vaccination rate,Quote:BIG FAT LIE
which is simultaneously admitted by Direcor WalenskyQuote:except there was no such "admission".
which, as an outcome, is an admission that undercuts the entire argument for compulsory vaccines.Quote:NO LINK TO DATA
The reverse is also evident in the data. There are just as many vaxxed carriers who are symptomatic (ie. sick), as there are un-vaxxed carriers who are symptomatic (ie. sick). The percentage of vaxxed and non-vaxxed people hospitalized it [is] identical to the vaxxed/non-vaxxed population around the hospital.Quote:NO LINK TO DATA
In regional populations with extremely high vaccination rates, the COVID infection rate continues unabated. The percentage of vaccinated people hospitalized is identical to the percentage of people vaccinated in the community.Quote:
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Kamikaze anti-vaxers
The task of persuading the great majority of the vaccine refusers is almost impossible. As far as I can see, right-wing blogs and sites are still just doubling down on the same old misinformation and conspiratardia. The vaccines are killing huge numbers of people and may even be a plot to reduce the world’s population by killing or sterilizing people. It’s a conspiracy of globalists / Jews / Satanists / pedophiles (yes, really) to enslave us all. Doctors are exaggerating covid-19 death numbers because they somehow make money that way. Biden is a pedophile and Fauci is an evil monster who conspired with China to create the virus in the first place. Most of the people now getting hospitalized are vaccinated, not unvaccinated. Hydroxychloroquine works (yes, some of them are still pushing that) and the vaccines don’t. The fight against masks and vaccines is an existential struggle against descending tyranny. Republican leaders who now urge vaccination are “cucks”, lackeys of the vast conspiracy. You need to spend some time reading this stuff in their own words, not mediated through left-wing paraphrases, to grasp how hopeless the task of coaxing the hard-core wingnuts out of this seething maelstrom of bullshit really is. It’s become part of their tribal identity.
The one thing that, so far, does seem to be able to bring them around is seeing their unvaccinated relatives or close friends die of covid-19. But each such death convinces only a few other people, so to reach tens of millions of anti-vaxers would take millions of deaths. (Actually, one death would convince them, but Trump has already been vaccinated. Too bad. His messy, brutal, fatal hospital stay would be good for America. )
More at https://angrybearblog.com/2021/08/kamikaze-anti-vaxers
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Nobody cares what angrybitchblogger has to say.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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"Tax the Unvaccinated"
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2021/08/11/tax-the-unvaxxed/
Being a smoker I should have seen that one coming. But instead of taxing smokers into being poor, you're just taxing people into being poor instead.
Would that be somewhere around STEP 3.5 just after trying to give free shit away to get vaccinated but before STEP 4?
I want to say yes, but we're already in STEP 4.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LA Times should take more care when picking their headlines.
This story is still very much STEP 4, but after the headline it's not nearly as bad as the
others that I've posted. Hell... they even go out of their way to say they disagree with
requiring vaccinations for essential services like grocery shopping.
At least everybody in the Legacy Media hasn't gone full Hitler over Covid... yet.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-08-05/editorial-no-more-pla
ying-around-for-the-unvaccinatedQuote:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
One blowhard mouthing off on a channel that even you say gets no viewers ...
... this is just more of an attempt to stampede people, to "manufacture consent" as the phrase goes.
I'd wait to see if the idea was getting traction anywhere important before I figured it was a sealed fate.
How about now, Kiki?Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
But wait... There's more... STEP 4
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/04/opinions/de-blasio-require-vaccines-fil
ipovic/index.htmlQuote:
In New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio correctly said masking is a secondary concern when "the whole ball game is vaccination." And he is acting on it, announcing Tuesday that the city will require proof of vaccination in the form of a health pass for entrance into gyms, restaurants, and indoor entertainment venues. The city will begin enforcing the program -- the first of its kind in a US city -- on September 13, he said.
It's a necessary and overdue step. But why aren't more cities and states taking it? And more importantly: Why isn't President Joe Biden?Quote:
The latest example is New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who on Monday said that he is asking private restaurants and bars to require proof of vaccination for entry. He's right -- they should. But why place the burden of creating sensible public health mandates on private businesses? Cuomo is, after all, the governor. If he believes, as he says, that it is in the "best interests" of these businesses -- and ostensibly the public -- to have inessential indoor events reserved for the vaccinated, why not make that the policy of New York state?Quote:
I can't even finish this article. It's so fucking bad.
That's a rarity. I can even make it through most Vox and Salon articles I read. At least they're usually unintentionally funny.
This dumb bitch actually thinks that calling them "health passes" instead of "vaccine passports" will make them work.
I bet this no-doubt-woke-as-fuck-dummy doesn't even realize that what she's suggestion means that almost no black people in New York would have any freedoms at all if it came true.
Or maybe she does and she doesn't care. Democrats are racists after all.Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://www.bloombergquint.com/gadfly/as-delta-spreads-covid-vaccine-m
andates-are-an-urgent-necessity
Keep pretending I'm making this stuff up.Quote:
BELOW: NOT one blowhard from CNN.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/31/cdc_director_walens
ky_on_vaccine_mandate_thats_something_the_administration_is_looking_into.htmlQuote:
Walensky on vaccine mandates: "You know, that's something that I think the administration is looking into. It's something that I think we're looking to see approval from the vaccine. Overall, I think, in general, I am all for more vaccination.NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Antivax Memes
1. Assuming the sole criterion for whether to take the vaccine is its effect on your own health—not taking into account whether you may infect someone else. Antivax people nearly always justify their choice in terms of their perceived risk of getting Covid and the personal risk posed by the vaccine and not in terms of the vaccine’s potential role (or lack of it) in reducing the extent and duration of the pandemic.
2. Bodily violation: resistance to accepting a foreign substance into their body. Also resistant to pressure from others, such as employers and government, to allow this substance to cross the “skin line”.
3. Personal responsibility for health. Some antivax people think that how sick you get from Covid depends on your general state of health, itself perhaps the result of the measures you’ve taken to protect it. If you stick to what you think is a healthy diet, if you work out, or if you just think you just have “good genes”, you do not think you are at risk and need to vaccinate against it. Some strands of alternative health are strongly invested in the view that there is no randomness to disease: if you get sick it’s because you failed to cleanse, build up your immune system, tune your energy or otherwise do what you should have done. Conversely, if you’ve followed the program you’re not at risk and don’t have to vaccinate.
4. Apparent inability to think probabilistically. A common remark is that you can get Covid even if you’re vaccinated, so what’s the point? Risk is perceived in binary terms: it exists or it doesn’t.
5. Fatalism. Whatever happens happens. There’s no point to getting vaccinated; you’ll get sick and die sooner or later anyway.
6. Distrust. These are experimental vaccines that haven’t been approved by the FDA yet. And even when the FDA says it’s OK, who believes them? The government and the media lie with abandon. The vaccines are also being pushed by corporations that just want to make as much money as they can.
https://angrybearblog.com/2021/08/antivax-memes
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The Left can't meme because the Left doesn't understand what a meme is.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Trump counties are no-go areas for vaccination
https://acasignups.net/21/08/11/us-covid19-vaccination-levels-county-o
ver-time
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Good.
Don't come here.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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