The Pax is in the Vax
POSTED BY: DREAMTROVE
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 06:32
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Covid failed to be contagious as a bioweapon, so the real pax is in the vax. They had to spread it manually, by injecting everyone. Anyone can look through the biochem of the vax and see this, it's obvious, it's not at all subtle. If someone fails to see it, either they're completely ignorant about genetic engineering, or they're lying, and they're part of the problem.
Mostly, the "vax effort" is 99% well meaning well educated people who just do not have the survival instincts that god gave a mouse, and probably never even analyze the chemistry that went into the bioweapon plague they're disseminating. They just figure "The Experts" have done "their job."
It's just that the experts in this case are bioterrorists working for wealthy elites who have been saying for years that the earth's population needs to be reduced to 400 million (144,000 true chosen whites and 2700 black slaves for each = 400 million, straight from the kabbalah) <-- remember your leaders are total fucking loons.
So it's a mass extermination plan of all non-africans, and we're morons and are enacting it. We're the guy in the last level of Demolition Master who carries out the alien instructions to destroy the Earth, without ever looking at the big picture or the fine details.
I'm in zero doubt about any of these details that I just posted and can back them up with a hundred walls of Pirate News data. That would however not convince anyone.
I realize looking at this forum that there are people here who have been posting "no, the left are the good guys" for 15 years. I cannot get that back for you. I realize that's a serious level of psychological investment. I was that guy until I was 35.
Let go and wake up. Don't blame yourself. There's still years left. You can escape with the remainder of your life. There's nothing you can do to save the media position. The media is just the mouthpiece of a handful of billionaires who think they're a different species than you (they do think this) and just released a bioweapon that will destroy the world.
Just think about it this way. You're still alive. There are years ahead. You can help save the human race from extinction, or, if you don't, no race or species that comes after will remember or record anything that you ever did.
This doesn't end in a debate or a reconciliation or a glorious new society, it ends in total war. It ends in a total war so bad that even if the beast loses the war, the landscape will look like a far gone dystopian sci-fi because of the weapons someone felt necessary to employ to defeat them. (and if the beast wins, everyone dies)
So, people who want to deal with the Alliance and the Pax can start thinking about ways to cure this bioweapon and stop the beast, there's time to do that.
I didn't come by after not being here for ten years to debate this. I came to see if there was anyone here who wanted to live.
I've long since forgotten how to do all of Haken's little encoded message things. Maybe posting an image URL will work
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So... uh... Don't get vaccinated, right?
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These bioweapons will need a cure. Rev 16 details 7 plagues, and these guys do everything by the book, so everyone who submits themselves will be given seven plagues, and plenty of people who are just close enough to them.
The closest I can come to it, I think these will be covid, sterility vax, hemorrhage, fever, MS, dehydration and small pox. This doesn't mean they will all be vaxes, though I'm sure some will be. The small pox I can see them doing as ISIS bioterrorism.
For people who got the vax, they're going to need the cure a lot sooner than the rest of us. I've been noticing the really impressively rapid health decline of some of the vaccinated, who will pretty clearly not live out the year, and then most will likely like 5-10 years but not longer than that if there isn't a cure.
Bill Gates and his WEF cohorts are not fucking around, they intend this to kill 90% of the planet. If you're not fighting that, you should seriously examine some life choices.
Or, put another way. Remember Firesit? a TV show about a bunch of people who sat in a saloon on Persephone and watched everyone get exterminated, tipped back the occasional glass and said "yer, someone really oughtta do something about that"
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You'll have to forgive my unwillingness to get on board with full-on Looney Tunes.
Sure. There is a chance that everything you're saying is true. There's also a chance that they release Covid-20 and it has a 100% death rate for everybody who chose not to get a vaccination too.
I figure I'm rolling the dice either way.
But right now, I still have a choice. If you believe the Legacy Media, more than 70% of Americans over 16 no longer have that choice... And they're also working on taking that choice away from those under 16 as we speak.
I sure hope nothing like that is going on. They're not going to want to see what they turned me into when I focus my guilt for not trying to prevent people I cared about from getting the vaccine directly onto them.
As a booze survivor who didn't need any self-help programs to get there, I've become quite adept at turning negative energy into something more productive.
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
These bioweapons will need a cure. Rev 16 details 7 plagues, and these guys do everything by the book, so everyone who submits themselves will be given seven plagues, and plenty of people who are just close enough to them.
The closest I can come to it, I think these will be covid, sterility vax, hemorrhage, fever, MS, dehydration and small pox. This doesn't mean they will all be vaxes, though I'm sure some will be. The small pox I can see them doing as ISIS bioterrorism.
For people who got the vax, they're going to need the cure a lot sooner than the rest of us. I've been noticing the really impressively rapid health decline of some of the vaccinated, who will pretty clearly not live out the year, and then most will likely like 5-10 years but not longer than that if there isn't a cure.
Bill Gates and his WEF cohorts are not fucking around, they intend this to kill 90% of the planet. If you're not fighting that, you should seriously examine some life choices.
Or, put another way. Remember Firesit? a TV show about a bunch of people who sat in a saloon on Persephone and watched everyone get exterminated, tipped back the occasional glass and said "yer, someone really oughtta do something about that"
Holy fuck comrade Kiki. Do you really believe no one here knows Dreamtrove is you? Do you really believe your schizophrenic identities won't expose you and all your posts to the fact you are wacko? Get back on your meds.
T
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THUGGR
I'm only disappointed that everyone thinks I'm 1kiki. srsly? (no offense to 1kiki) Just I would have thought I'd be Auraptor's sockpuppet
So, I'm not been here in ten years for a reason. It's the left and right arguing constantly and not moving. But I am also here for a reason. This is where everyone dies, because the Alliance has released the Pax. And the Pax is in the Vax
you missed the mark here. I'm actually dreamtrove. I posted as sockpuppet, so?
Six,
the crazy is the buying the narrative. There's no covid epidemic, there are death camps masquerading as hospitals. If you get the flu and don't get the covid treatment, you survive. You only died if you get the treatment, you only get the "covid positive" test if you go to the camps.
I think covid19 was probably intended as a bioweapon, but it fizzled, like SARS and MERS and Ebola, and remember, I had ebola. It was really bad. But it didn't kill 100 million americans as predicted by the media. The media is lying all of the time. That's the most obvious part of the whole puzzle. Once you get that, do your own research.
I'm basically 100% sure that from the 2019 "event 201" Bill Gates and his Bilderbuddies has been planning this mass sterilization depopulation, and all the science lines up. You're in a biowar, and you're not the attacker or the defender, you're the bystander.
The heading of this thread just tells it like it is, The Pax is in the Vax. This is why they are pushing so fucking hard for everyone to get it. It's the same fucking people. Bill Gates and his dad were there in 1980 with Tony Fauci when Fauci forged the AIDS "discovery" that he later admitted forging in the 1990s, but back in the 80s they were all telling us "don't worry about it." Because it was their bioweapon, just get the bioweapon guys.
Now it's "Papers Please. Vee need to know that you hast zee vaxxxxeen, Ja." And all the good jews are lining up for their prime spot in the camps.
How hard the media pushes. How much they silence debate. All the "fact check" denial of obvious objective reality. 
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Quote:Do you mean Revelation 16?
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
These bioweapons will need a cure. Rev 16 details 7 plagues, and these guys do everything by the book, so everyone who submits themselves will be given seven plagues, and plenty of people who are just close enough to them.
Here is the New International Version
The Seven Bowls of God’s Wrath
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2016&versi
on=NIV
16 Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, “Go, pour out the seven bowls of God’s wrath on the earth.”
2 The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.
3 The second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it turned into blood like that of a dead person, and every living thing in the sea died.
4 The third angel poured out his bowl on the rivers and springs of water, and they became blood.
5 Then I heard the angel in charge of the waters say:
“You are just in these judgments, O Holy One,
you who are and who were;
6 for they have shed the blood of your holy people and your prophets,
and you have given them blood to drink as they deserve.”
7 And I heard the altar respond:
“Yes, Lord God Almighty,
true and just are your judgments.”
8 The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was allowed to scorch people with fire. 9 They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.
10 The fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness. People gnawed their tongues in agony 11 and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done.
12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. 13 Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.
15 “Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed.”
16 Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.
17 The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, “It is done!” 18 Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. 19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. 20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. 21 From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds, fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
THUGGR
I'm only disappointed that everyone thinks I'm 1kiki. srsly? (no offense to 1kiki) Just I would have thought I'd be Auraptor's sockpuppet
So, I'm not been here in ten years for a reason. It's the left and right arguing constantly and not moving. But I am also here for a reason. This is where everyone dies, because the Alliance has released the Pax. And the Pax is in the Vax
you missed the mark here. I'm actually dreamtrove. I posted as sockpuppet, so?
You've posted as both which means you post here under at least 3 alias. Why, because you post taking every side of an issue comrade troll. Comrade troll being the most accurate label for you.
April, 2017
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61593
Another, March 2017
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=11&tid=56585&mid=1
025299#1025299
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Quote:If I understand you, COVID is one of their plagues - right?
]Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
The closest I can come to it, I think these will be covid, sterility vax, hemorrhage, fever, MS, dehydration and small pox.
Quote:As you've said
For people who got the vax, they're going to need the cure a lot sooner than the rest of us. I've been noticing the really impressively rapid health decline of some of the vaccinated, who will pretty clearly not live out the year, and then most will likely like 5-10 years but not longer than that if there isn't a cure.
Bill Gates and his WEF cohorts are not fucking around, they intend this to kill 90% of the planet. If you're not fighting that, you should seriously examine some life choices.
Quote:I'd be really curious as to the chemistry you know about it. Well, them actually, since there's more than 1 vax and more than 1 technology. If you could fill in the details, along with the specific maladies you predict from the various vaxes I'd be happy to read it!
there's a lot of chemistry behind it, which I can spam post if you want ... I've heard their story.
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thank you for the reminder
My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
If I understand you, COVID is one of their plagues - right?Quote:
Rev. 15-16Quote:
I'd be really curious as to the chemistry you know about it. Well, them actually, since there's more than 1 vax and more than 1 technology. If you could fill in the details, along with the specific maladies you predict from the various vaxes I'd be happy to read it!
All the current vaccines are predicated on the idea that we have isolatied a coronavirus that has a spike protein, and that immunoregulators can be used to produce an immune response to that spike protein.
The spike protein included in these vaccines is an analogue of Syncytin-1, an enzyme we inherited from old world monkeys that they inherited from a retrovirus HERV W. The enzyme is responsible for supplying hydrocarbon chains to all rapid polymerization and hypermethylization in rapid human cell proliferation, including embryonic development, healing and immune response. An immunity to Syncytin-1 would not just sterilize a human, it would reduce their life expectancy to an average of 10 years or so, similar to being injected with HIV.
Ergo, getting the vax is roughly equivalent to injecting yourself with HIV. People do it because peer pressure and authority. So, I aim to misbehave.
If you want I can send you some more detailed research on this.
My speculation on future bioweapons is speculation. But these guys have been talking about radical population reduction since forever
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
thank you for the reminder
My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
I've made my point and exposed you as being a liar and troll. Now I'll ignore you because I have no intent to bandy crooked words with a witless worm.
T
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Quote:I assume you did not receive word:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
An immunity to Syncytin-1 would not just sterilize a human, it would reduce their life expectancy to an average of 10 years or so, similar to being injected with HIV.
Ergo, getting the vax is roughly equivalent to injecting yourself with HIV.
My speculation on future bioweapons is speculation. But these guys have been talking about radical population reduction since forever
Fact check: A false post on social media claims COVID-19 vaccine causes infertility in women
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/14/fact-check-no
-evidence-covid-19-vaccine-causes-infertility-women/3884328001/
No evidence that COVID-19 vaccine results in sterilization
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9856420671
Presumably, when the sterilization turned out to be false, the trolls decided to take it to the next level higher: vaccination with HIV. That is also false.
I wonder what the trolls will do next? I assume there is no upper limit to how stupid the trolling can get about vaccinations: "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -- A. Einstein
https://www.inc.com/kevin-daum/26-genius-quotes-from-albert-einstein-t
hat-will-make-you-sound-smarter.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:
Fact check: A false post on social media claims COVID-19 vaccine causes infertility in women
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/14/fact-check-no
-evidence-covid-19-vaccine-causes-infertility-women/3884328001/
No evidence that COVID-19 vaccine results in sterilization
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9856420671
Presumably, when the sterilization turned out to be false, the trolls decided to take it to the next level higher: vaccination with HIV. That is also false.
I got there through actual science. Believe me, it's real. Your lack of knowledge of biochemistry will not keep you from dying of bioweapons.
"Media says is false" does not equal "turned out to be false." It turned out to be true. Why are we still talking about what's already been decided?
THG
you need me to break that down into words of one syllable for ya?
seriously there's no reason to be hostile, it's unbecoming.
I thought you just saved your hate for the Not-sees
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
If I understand you, COVID is one of their plagues - right?
Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Rev. 15-16
Quote:
I'd be really curious as to the chemistry you know about it. Well, them actually, since there's more than 1 vax and more than 1 technology. If you could fill in the details, along with the specific maladies you predict from the various vaxes I'd be happy to read it!
Quote:Yes, I'd like that. You've certainly've given me something to dig into, but I'd appreciate whatever else you have.
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
All the current vaccines are predicated on the idea that we have isolated a coronavirus that has a spike protein, and that immunoregulators can be used to produce an immune response to that spike protein.
The spike protein included in these vaccines is an analogue of Syncytin-1, an enzyme we inherited from old world monkeys that they inherited from a retrovirus HERV W. The enzyme is responsible for supplying hydrocarbon chains to all rapid polymerization and hypermethylization in rapid human cell proliferation, including embryonic development, healing and immune response. An immunity to Syncytin-1 would not just sterilize a human, it would reduce their life expectancy to an average of 10 years or so, similar to being injected with HIV.
Ergo, getting the vax is roughly equivalent to injecting yourself with HIV. People do it because peer pressure and authority. So, I aim to misbehave.
If you want I can send you some more detailed research on this.
Quote:Yes, they have. Because they think they're somehow immune to things like viruses and radiation that the rest of humanity is vulnerable to.
My speculation on future bioweapons is speculation. But these guys have been talking about radical population reduction since forever
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Honestly, I have no fucking idea what's happening here right now.
Until Dreamtrove said that they haven't been here in 10 years, I was also in agreement with Ted that I was talking to Kiki's sockpuppet.
All I know is that I was talking to DT a few years ago and rather enjoying our conversations and that was not 10 years ago.
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Yes, they have. Because they think they're somehow immune to things like viruses and radiation that the rest of humanity is vulnerable to.
I'll try to post some spam tomorrow.
But yeah, they're not scientists, the illumnati elites, not one science degree between them outside of psychology, and they use that to manipulate smarter people into solving their scientific problems, but what it means is that they think that vaccines and cures are like in video games, they don't realize these are just vague concepts that don't really apply 100% in reality, and lately they apply about 20%
hardly enough to save themQuote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Honestly, I have no fucking idea what's happening here right now.
Until Dreamtrove said that they haven't been here in 10 years, I was also in agreement with Ted that I was talking to Kiki's sockpuppet.
All I know is that I was talking to DT a few years ago and rather enjoying our conversations and that was not 10 years ago.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
I'm not 1kiki's sockpuppet, I don't think I've ever been called that before, but I've been called a lot of people's sockpuppet at various times. Aside from possiblly being SignyM's sockpuppet, wouldn't that make them my sockpuppets, since this account is way older?
I was here for a few months in 2017, as THUGGR (if I have that right) reminded me, and a few months in 2013. My sister was diagnosed with cancer in december of 2010, which took me away from FFF for a few months, and in those few months there was a massive fight and the lions share of everyone rage quit. I remember several people telling me about it, and going through old messages trying to figure out what happened. That said, the non-RWED part of the site had become like a ghost town.
It was around that time, a few people had introduced me to bitcoin. Someone had posted a link here, a wall st friend of mine had sent me a link, and I met some bitcoin devs at occupy wall st in NYC. This pushed me to a few bitcoin forums like bitcointalk, the reddits, IRC channel and more importantly the russian BTC-e trollbox, the first real solid altcoin community.
CANTTAKESKY had said to me "DT, keep looking, and you will find your people" and I thought I'd probably found my people there. I am still in touch with many of them, though that community crumbled in 2017. I've been mostly in Bitcoin Cash since then.
Sometimes I come back here, but it's too toxic. The auto-attack and denial of everything, it's like stepping out of plato's cave and then coming back in and seeing everyone still staring at the wall, no offense, just get out more.
The other things occupying my time involved a lot of sickness and death. I stayed at my sister's and tried to help her beat cancer, which was going okay until the medical establishment kicked her off of all treatments at all hospitals, and we couldn't get around it. Some obamacare nonsense.
Anyway, when she died, I came back here, and several people trolled me and said it was a scam, and I got actually upset and quit.
I didn't actually come back in 2017 because the bitcoin closures, I'd have to check dates and I don't care enough to dig through all that. But it was because of HKCavalier, who was writing a book, which was quite good, and we were sharing stories, so I came back to see if anyone else was still writing.
Then both my gf/commonlaw wife and my mom got sick and I had to spend more time trying to save people and failing, which has led to an every incr
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Quote:I can't imagine anyone thinking that you are. You have a unique perspective that I can't imagine anyone fabricating
KIKI: Yes, they have. Because they think they're somehow immune to things like viruses and radiation that the rest of humanity is vulnerable to
DT:I'll try to post some spam tomorrow.
But yeah, they're not scientists, the illumnati elites, not one science degree between them outside of psychology, and they use that to manipulate smarter people into solving their scientific problems, but what it means is that they think that vaccines and cures are like in video games, they don't realize these are just vague concepts that don't really apply 100% in reality, and lately they apply about 20%
hardly enough to save them
6IXSTRINGJACK:
Honestly, I have no fucking idea what's happening here right now.
Until Dreamtrove said that they haven't been here in 10 years, I was also in agreement with Ted that I was talking to Kiki's sockpuppet.
All I know is that I was talking to DT a few years ago and rather enjoying our conversations and that was not 10 years ago.
DT: I'm not 1kiki's sockpuppet,
Quote:I don't recall any giant fights around that time. At some point I might go back into the archives and see if I can find it. But that would be abut 2 years into Obama's tenure, and if he was coming under criticism then maybe some people got pissed about that?
I don't think I've ever been called that before, but I've been called a lot of people's sockpuppet at various times. Aside from possiblly being SignyM's sockpuppet, wouldn't that make them my sockpuppets, since this account is way older?
I was here for a few months in 2017, as THUGGR (if I have that right) reminded me, and a few months in 2013. My sister was diagnosed with cancer in december of 2010, which took me away from FFF for a few months, and in those few months there was a massive fight and the lions share of everyone rage quit.
Quote:We DO chat about our everyday things. Some of us, anyway.
I remember several people telling me about it, and going through old messages trying to figure out what happened. That said, the non-RWED part of the site had become like a ghost town.
It was around that time, a few people had introduced me to bitcoin. Someone had posted a link here, a wall st friend of mine had sent me a link, and I met some bitcoin devs at occupy wall st in NYC. This pushed me to a few bitcoin forums like bitcointalk, the reddits, IRC channel and more importantly the russian BTC-e trollbox, the first real solid altcoin community.
CANTTAKESKY had said to me "DT, keep looking, and you will find your people" and I thought I'd probably found my people there. I am still in touch with many of them, though that community crumbled in 2017. I've been mostly in Bitcoin Cash since then.
Sometimes I come back here, but it's too toxic. The auto-attack and denial of everything, it's like stepping out of plato's cave and then coming back in and seeing everyone still staring at the wall, no offense, just get out more.
Quote:What did people think was a scam? That you had a sister who was sick?
The other things occupying my time involved a lot of sickness and death. I stayed at my sister's and tried to help her beat cancer, which was going okay until the medical establishment kicked her off of all treatments at all hospitals, and we couldn't get around it. Some obamacare nonsense.
Anyway, when she died, I came back here, and several people trolled me and said it was a scam, and I got actually upset and quit.
Quote:
I didn't actually come back in 2017 because the bitcoin closures, I'd have to check dates and I don't care enough to dig through all that. But it was because of HKCavalier, who was writing a book, which was quite good, and we were sharing stories, so I came back to see if anyone else was still writing.
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DT, I didn't realize how bad your situation was while you were away. I'm sorry for brushing past it the way I did. I too have had people I loved lost to what in retrospect was irreversible illness. (But one never knows going into these situations. Will they recover? Or is this their last crisis?) I've seen friends and co-workers go through the same thing. And while I'm not you and I can't truly understand what you went through, I know that if you're any kind of normal human it's very difficult and painful. I can only sympathize.
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Quote:Have you noticed that the people who say "believe me" are the least believable? And there is already a well known bio-weapon called senescence that kills. Have compassion for all who aged and who faced death before they were ready -- although, if we were not forced to go until we were ready, the world would be mountain-deep with the ill-prepared.
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
I got there through actual science. Believe me, it's real. Your lack of knowledge of biochemistry will not keep you from dying of bioweapons.
"Media says is false" does not equal "turned out to be false." It turned out to be true. Why are we still talking about what's already been decided?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:There would be an extremely easy test for that. Harvest a broadly representative set of antibodies to spike protein, mix them with syncytin-1, and look to see if they bind together. There are all sorts of well-known detection techniques for that.
The spike protein included in these vaccines is an analogue of syncytin-1 ...
I've done a quick look-through to see if spike protein and syncytin-1 cross-react immunologically.
And while no one has done what I've outlined that I could find, there have been other studies done that indicate cross-reaction doesn't happen.
One of the other things ppl could also do is to study the amino acid sequence of both proteins to look for areas that resemble each other. Though that doesn't mean that they'll cross react - or that they won't. A raw 2-dimension AA sequence is meaningless where it counts immunologically - in 3 dimensions. As proteins are spooled off of ribosomes, they have 'helper' proteins that fold them into their correct shape. And once all the 3-D folding is done, 2-D protein strands that may resemble each other linearly may not resemble each other at all in 3-D. But fortunately there 's software that can help uncover how proteins are folded as they come off of the ribosomses.
Anyway, I'll keep looking a bit longer. It's an intriguing idea.
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I can't imagine anyone thinking that you are. You have a unique perspective that I can't imagine anyone fabricating
Thanks. CTS could probably do it.Quote:
I don't recall any giant fights around that time. At some point I might go back into the archives and see if I can find it. But that would be abut 2 years into Obama's tenure, and if he was coming under criticism then maybe some people got pissed about that?
It wasn't political, I think, but i wasn't here for it. It would be around that time, just a massive walkout. It might have been hard to notice with walls of spam.Quote:
Yeah, I wasn't up for it. So I left again
We DO chat about our everyday things. Some of us, anyway.
What did people think was a scam? That you had a sister who was sick? Quote:
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You should be less dismissive, since you are part of the everyone that is might die of this thing. If I were you I'd be far more concerned with the effects of what engineered viruses some billionaire might have written into my DNA to get me out of the way, and what I could do about it, and less who was wrong on the internet.Quote:
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There would be an extremely easy test for that. Harvest a broadly representative set of antibodies to spike protein, mix them with syncytin-1, and look to see if they bind together. There are all sorts of well-known detection techniques for that.
Yes, but someone honest would have to do it.Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I've done a quick look-through to see if spike protein and syncytin-1 cross-react immunologically.
Science has huge holes in it and this is one of them. In science you have to test for something, and worse yet, you have to rely on someone else usually to do it, and then you have to rely on them to tell you the truth. That last step is an almost guaranteed fail point
The fact check deniers say it doesn't, but I already know that it does, because logically it has to. The vaccinated shed 2-nonenal which they wouldn't do without the syncytin void, it's a common syndrome that Second alluded to, old people have the same problem. Checmically, being vaxed and being old will have the same result. I would not be in the least surprised if in five to ten years, a college student who got the vax will not be distinguishable from an octogenarian, even externally.
When you can logically deduce that the sky is blue, and there are no holes in the logic, then the scientific report that the sky is red is most likely useless and probably maliciously attempting to misinform. Unless you can do that test yourself.
There is an overlap on the molecules and detractors argue that it is small, some skeptics called it "functionally identical" which seems more likely to me, but at any rate, it does happen. It's worth also noting that syncytin is a huge molecule. Less easy to do this sort of analysis conclusivelyQuote:
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DT, I didn't realize how bad your situation was while you were away. I'm sorry for brushing past it the way I did. I too have had people I loved lost to what in retrospect was irreversible illness. (But one never knows going into these situations. Will they recover? Or is this their last crisis?) I've seen friends and co-workers go through the same thing. And while I'm not you and I can't truly understand what you went through, I know that if you're any kind of normal human it's very difficult and painful. I can only sympathize.
Virtually everyone I knew in 2011 when I left is now dead. There is no one alive now who remembers any significant portion of my life, and my memory has been repeatedly impaired by illness and bad medicine, so I have fragments of awareness of things that
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Quote:DreamTrove, you are trolling. Why 1kiki pretends otherwise is because 1kiki is also a troll.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I've done a quick look-through to see if spike protein and syncytin-1 cross-react immunologically.
Science has huge holes in it and this is one of them. In science you have to test for something, and worse yet, you have to rely on someone else usually to do it, and then you have to rely on them to tell you the truth. That last step is an almost guaranteed fail point
The fact check deniers say it doesn't, but I already know that it does, because logically it has to. . . .
Virtually everyone I knew in 2011 when I left is now dead. There is no one alive now who remembers any significant portion of my life, and my memory has been repeatedly impaired by illness and bad medicine, so I have fragments of awareness of things that have basically unhappened. Instead of everything all of those people achieved in their lifetimes we have some elite billionaire nazi genocide with a sick level of intentionally humiliating degeneracy.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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DreamTrove, you are trolling. Why 1kiki pretends otherwise is because 1kiki is also a troll.
No, I'm not. There's actually a genocide, and you're getting genocided. Stop worrying about your ego and that it might hurt your pride that someone is telling you that you're wrong on the internet, and pay actual attention to what they're saying and take it seriously.
A handful of a couple dozen globalist billionaires bought the entire media over the last decade, and now they are trying to literally depopulate the planet and have it just for themselves and their slaves. Every single mainstream media outlet now belongs to them, so that is who you are now trusting when you trust your news.
Take this death serum. Oops, I mean not death serum, take this medicine. It will help you. I also agree it will help you, and it was said by me also.
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Quote:People tell me I am wrong, people who I know are crazy and live stupidly. Only when somebody I know tells me I am wrong and they are smart and sane, will I listen. That policy of mine has never failed. Nobody crazy has ever told me anything worth knowing, although statistically they should be right once in awhile. I don't know how they manage to be always wrong, but they do manage being irrelevant. (If the crazies would tell me how they consistently do it, I would listen to their secret mental process, which is amazing and amusing . . . )
Originally posted by dreamtrove:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
DreamTrove, you are trolling. Why 1kiki pretends otherwise is because 1kiki is also a troll.
No, I'm not. There's actually a genocide, and you're getting genocided. Stop worrying about your ego and that it might hurt your pride that someone is telling you that you're wrong on the internet, and pay actual attention to what they're saying and take it seriously.
A handful of a couple dozen globalist billionaires bought the entire media over the last decade, and now they are trying to literally depopulate the planet and have it just for themselves and their slaves. Every single mainstream media outlet now belongs to them, so that is who you are now trusting when you trust your news.
Take this death serum. Oops, I mean not death serum, take this medicine. It will help you. I also agree it will help you, and it was said by me also.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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DT, have you ever thought to keep a diary, to keep your memories for you? Or, ir you're visually-oriented and want objective evidence as well as your own thoughts, take lots of pictures? Electrons are cheap, and they store pretty well.
Just a thought.
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There are a coupke of big flies in the "sterilizing vaccine" theory
The first is that the Israeli government - not exactly self-extinguishing globalists who want to reduce Jewish population - oversaw the massive vaccination of a large portion of Israeli Jews. You COULD say the same for Iceland, for example, which has no national interest in reducing its population.
Personal; eperience. My niece, an ER doctor, got vaccinated when she was pregnant and delivered a healthy 8-lb girl. There are prolly plenty of pregnant women who've been vaccinated by now, not heard of any reports of spontaeous abortions/miscarriages.
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I've heard this sterilizing-vaccine story before, which may have actually been true, specifically regarding Bill Gates' "flu" vaccine tests in the Philippines. But atho the stories contained details about specific spontaneous abortions, there was no data presented and no biochemical mechanism showing HOW this could be true.
For example, it would be possible to sequence the genomic fragments in the vaccine and compare them to the sequence which produces syncretin. Or, as KIKI said, look for cross-reactions. But without any kind of systematically-collected data and/or mechanism of action, the story has stayed in my "interesting if true" warehouse. I haven't dismissed it ... I've kept it in mind for over 20 years ... but I haven't accepted it either.
(Also, his polio vaccine in India seems to cause a large number of non-polio flaccid paralysis cases. That story seems to be more well-founded.)
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Quote:DreamTrove has not shot down your argument, but I will do it for DT: the vax was craftily designed for a long time delay between injection and genocide, tricking even the Israelis. Alternatively, the vaccine in Israel is not exactly the same as the genocidal version of the same vaccine because the Jews intend to control the world after the Vax Holocaust. See how easy it is to explain that vax == genocide ?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There are a coupke of big flies in the "sterilizing vaccine" theory
The first is that the Israeli government - not exactly self-extinguishing globalists who want to reduce Jewish population - oversaw the massive vaccination of a large portion of Israeli Jews. You COULD say the same for Iceland, for example, which has no national interest in reducing its population.
Personal; eperience. My niece, an ER doctor, got vaccinated when she was pregnant and delivered a healthy 8-lb girl. There are prolly plenty of pregnant women who've been vaccinated by now, not heard of any reports of spontaeous abortions/miscarriages.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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I am wrong,
Second, it does not matter who points out that I am wrong. It makes no difference. It only matters that I am wrong. When I find this out, I correct the wrong and become no longer wrong
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There are a couple of big flies in the "sterilizing vaccine" theory
Meh. There are a lot of ways to shoot this down without resorting to Second's "they're not shooting at us" theory, which is useless for her in that it only kills Second.
1) The israelis used their own vaccine, but I don't think it's a jewish conspiracy, I think they also got got. A sterilizing % result for the vax that increses with boosters and delta, lambda etc. can effectively sterilize everyone while holding the idea as a crazy conspiracy theory, and the govts can enforce these vaccinations
2) it's categorically insane to take an organization wun by people who have many times talked about the need to reduce the world population by 95% to allow them access to your blood and DNA.
3) This is Gates' own scam, and he did those third world sterilizations. A friend of mine in pakistan was sterilized by one of his philanthropic efforts. Anyway, Event 201 is the name of Gates' "let's have a fake plague" presentation to the world economic forum.
4) we have the extremely obvious evidence that many of the vaccinated are newly sterile because they lack syncytin by the 2-nonenal discharge. That's not a speculation
5) look at the vaccine. it contains too much nonsense you'd never put in a vaccine.
6) the biggest tip off of all is how hard the NWO is pushing for everyone to get this thing. They don't care about your health, they've been in power at least a century and never cared about it before. They tell us to shut up about nuclear meltdowns, chemical fracking, lyme disease and other bioweapons they made, just constantly never "oh let's help you" it's "oh, crazy conspiracy theorists"
7) I got here from science of just studying the results and reading the actual literature these globalist multinational corporations are putting out. This only takes one genocidal lunatic with access to a printing press of money and a lot of greedy morons willing to do anything for money
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Whether or not DT is 'trolling' about the vax it's a good excuse to delve into some biochemistry I haven't delved into before. Fortunately for me I can understand the references, pathways, mechanisms etc due to my existing knowledge.
https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(19)58549-0/fulltext
Lipid Peroxidation Generates Body Odor Component trans-2-Nonenal Covalently Bound to Protein in Vivo*
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X15411984
2-Nonenal Newly Found in Human Body Odor Tends to Increase with Aging
... analysis of skin surface lipids ...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006291X8571213
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Metabolism of 4-Hydroxy-2-nonenal and Aging
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S094096021100043
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Localization of 4-hydroxy 2-nonenal immunoreactivity in aging human retinal Müller cells
https://academic.oup.com/jnen/article/56/8/866/2610754
4-Hydroxy-2-Nonenal Pyrrole Adducts in Human Neurodegenerative Disease
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S089158491630980
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Role of 4-hydroxy-2-nonenal (HNE) in the pathogenesis of alzheimer disease and other selected age-related neurodegenerative disorders
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0014579395000336
The monoclonal antibody specific for the 4-hydroxy-2-nonenal histidine adduct
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S016378270300014
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4-Hydroxy-2-nonenal: a product and mediator of oxidative stress
Obviously 2-nonenal and its products after continued metabolism (including adduction to proteins to create an immunogenic structure) are related to aging.
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Do you have links, DREAMTROVE? Because as interesting as all of that is, it's just speculation and anecdote without the studies and data to back it up,
I did a quick online search to see what the effects might have been/will be.
The CDC has esablished a registry for women who were immediately pre-pregnant or pregnant at the time of the shot. So far, over 100,000 women have contacted the CDC and over 5,000 are in the study.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vsafepregnan
cyregistry.html
I would like to see the basis for excluding many women from the study.
Covid-19 has been reported as being more dangerous for pregnant women.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/peopl
e-with-medical-conditions.html
Pregnant women have gotten vaccinated with Pfizer with no serious side effects
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2021/02/17/coronavirus-vaccine-pregnan
cy
This matches my niece's experience
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So, about vaccines: It is my understanding that the closer they resemble the infectious agent, the more robust will be the confered immunity.
However, there will also be more side effects.
I get this understanding from the way the pertussis vaccine was handled. The original pertussis vaccine was noted for its higher-than-usual neurological complication rates. I knew a girl in our daughter's special day class whose brain was fried with the vaccine, However, an "acellular" version was later developed which didn't have the high complication rate.
It seems to me that being exposed to the full panoply of SARS-CoV2 nucleotides and proteins would be more dangerous than being vaccinated with a few snippets of the viral RNA. (One of the difference between vaccines is which snippets, and how many, are in each vaccine.)
All of this uproar was caused by a former Pfizer scientist who was initially for vaccination but did a 180 after a year or so, Dr Yeadon. To date, he has not, so far as I can tell, provided a mechanism for how vaccines cause sterility, and as a molecular biologist if anyone is equipped to do so, it would be him.
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So AFA the "depopulation agenda"is concerned ... MANY people have commented that overpopulation is our #1 problem. 6IXSTRINGJACK has posted that repeatedly.
There are too many websites under "depopulation agenda" for me to parse thru them. But I have no doubt that some, if not many, of the Davos crowd/uber elite would like to see most of the "useless eaters" die off so that the world will be a nicer place (for them).
And a bioweapon that causes sterility, or a vaccine that does the same ... oh, and kills off useless old farts ... would be the IDEAL way to achieve that goal. But just like the "Saddam has WMD" and "Trump is Putin's puppet", these suspicions must be backed by evidence and overcome some practical hurdles.
For example, there are quite a few nations that DON'T have depopulation as a national goal, and these nations have scientists of their own who would be equipped to detect anything hinky in the vaccine. And at the same time, many of the nations that are populating the fastest (most of Africa, India and the rest of southern Asia, and much of south and central America) are the nations least likely to be able to rollout a widespread vaccination program.
SO, I need to look into this in detail and bird-dog the specifics.
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Quote:That's one of the logical inconsistencies of the vaccine-as-depopulation-agent theory. If the spike proteins from the vaccine cross-react with syncytin-1, then so do the spike proteins in the virus. That makes viral infection problematic as well.
It seems to me that being exposed to the full panoply of SARS-CoV2 nucleotides and proteins would be more dangerous than being vaccinated with a few snippets of the viral RNA.
When it comes to evidence, multiple studies indicate neither COVID-19 disease nor vaccination interfere with pregnancy. Here's a small sampling from around the globe.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2773105
Pregnancy Outcomes Among Women With and Without Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 Infection
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00404-020-05848-0
COVID-19 pandemic effect on early pregnancy: are miscarriage rates altered, in asymptomatic women?
https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378(20)31177-7/pdf
Coronavirus disease 2019 and first-trimester spontaneous abortion: a case-control study of 225 pregnant patients
I tracked down the petition filed by Yeadon and Wodarg, and read some of Yeadon's separately-stated concerns.
First, the petition itself acknowledges that there was no indication of cross-reactivity between spike protein antibodies and syncytin-1 as per the AP news article.
Quote:But the 'news' is often slanted. And btw a pox on AP for not providing a link to the original petition to check the accuracy of the quote and its meaning in context.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9856420671
No evidence that COVID-19 vaccine results in sterilization
a petition filed by Yeadon and Wolfgang Wodarg, a German physician, to the European Medicines Agency that demanded that clinical trials of the Pfizer vaccine be stopped in the European Union until more safety and efficacy data can be provided. In the petition, the two acknowledge that there is no indication “whether antibodies against spike proteins of SARS viruses would also act like anti-Syncytin-1 antibodies.”
So I separately tracked down the petition - indeed, that's what the petition says, and that what it means in its full context.
link to petition: https://2020news.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Wodarg_Yeadon_EMA_Petit
ion_Pfizer_Trial_FINAL_01DEC2020_EN_unsigned_with_Exhibits.pdf
I did read some more about the concerns of Yeadon. He stated a theoretical concern about vaccinating pregnant women, using thalidomide as the model of concern. Until studies were done with pregnant women as test subjects, he cautioned that there might possibly be untoward consequences.
Then that blossomed into a specific focus on syncytin-1, because “the spike protein is faintly similar, not very strongly, but faintly similar to an essential protein in your placenta, something that’s absolutely required for both fertilization and formation, and maintenance of the placenta. So, you can’t get pregnant and have a successful pregnancy if this protein is damaged in any way.”.
When he says 'faintly similar' he means that there are exactly 4 amino acids (2 identical amino acids, one non-identical amino acid, and 2 more identical amino acids in a row) that are shared between the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and syncytin-1. Considering there are 1,273 amino-acids in the spike protein, and the entire protein itself is folded into a particular shape where those 4 amino acids may - or most likely are probably not - exposed on the surface in a similar configuration with other amino acids to syncytin-1 - the chance that there's cross-reactivity is exceedingly low - virtually nonexistent.
But I intend to look further into syncytin-1 itself, because it's a reason to learn something new.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Whether or not DT is 'trolling' about the vax it's a good excuse to delve into some biochemistry I haven't delved into before. Fortunately for me I can understand the references, pathways, mechanisms etc due to my existing knowledge.
https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(19)58549-0/fulltext
Lipid Peroxidation Generates Body Odor Component trans-2-Nonenal Covalently Bound to Protein in Vivo*
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X15411984
2-Nonenal Newly Found in Human Body Odor Tends to Increase with Aging
... analysis of skin surface lipids ...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006291X8571213
2
Metabolism of 4-Hydroxy-2-nonenal and Aging
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S094096021100043
4
Localization of 4-hydroxy 2-nonenal immunoreactivity in aging human retinal Müller cells
https://academic.oup.com/jnen/article/56/8/866/2610754
4-Hydroxy-2-Nonenal Pyrrole Adducts in Human Neurodegenerative Disease
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S089158491630980
7
Role of 4-hydroxy-2-nonenal (HNE) in the pathogenesis of alzheimer disease and other selected age-related neurodegenerative disorders
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0014579395000336
The monoclonal antibody specific for the 4-hydroxy-2-nonenal histidine adduct
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S016378270300014
6
4-Hydroxy-2-nonenal: a product and mediator of oxidative stress
Obviously 2-nonenal and its products after continued metabolism (including adduction to proteins to create an immunogenic structure) are related to aging.
I'll dig through that, but yes, this is well known. The pathway by which it happens though, is the loss of syncytin over time. this aging mechanism also contributes to menopause
We're a curious evolutionary mess, and syncytins are products of viral infection that happened millions of years ago, and our bodies can still defeat them, causing sterility as happens in old people, and giving off the 2-nonenal which we detect as a sign to power down our libidos when we smell the sterility
the problem is when you start having a huge 2-nonensal load as a highschool or college student, because you have a syncytin void, do to a malformed immune responseQuote:
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Do you have links, DREAMTROVE? Because as interesting as all of that is, it's just speculation and anecdote without the studies and data to back it up,
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I would like to see the basis for excluding many women from the study.
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But the 'news' is often slanted.
Signym, yes, later tonight I'll try to post. Unfortunately, I'm also still very sick atm, but you're absolutely right. My say so is worth dick, and I'm convinced enough that this threat exists on an objective level I think any educated person can see the danger without any argument from me, so it needs more data. Spam thread coming later, going to watch some Walking Dead first
Anyway, yes, that's the right level of skepticism for this one on all sides
Anecdotally, there are a lot of people here who have the syncytin void and 2-nonenal discharge, young people who developed this issue post vax. I had this information before I started the search, so I did not come to the topic with the theory that it might be a risk, I found that later. I came in with the already established information that it was a problem local people had developed in the last few months, and the possibility of an auto-immune link of that problem to the vaccine started.
Now you might remember I had some rather vicious arguments with CANTTAKESKY on vaccines here when I was on the other side. I used to do research for a couple vax teams on a purely volunteer open source basis, because that's what my undergrad education was in. So, I was avidly pro-vax, but then my sister's cancer was definitively linked to a v
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That's one of the logical inconsistencies of the vaccine-as-depopulation-agent theory. If the spike proteins from the vaccine cross-react with syncytin-1, then so do the spike proteins in the virus. That makes viral infection problematic as well.
I don't doubt that they do. And I'm not sure that the people making the vaccine are intentionally duplicating this behavior, they might be very unintentionally doing it. To back this theory up I submit that the Russian and Israeli vaccines have the same problem and no pattern of behavior of those govts indicate they would intentionally do that. I think it's more likely they're copying an original bioweapon.
Any harmful aspect of vaccination linked autoimmune conditions (and there are others, one person locally already has developed parkinsons post vax rare on a college age person, and another rickets, also rare but on a middle aged person in this case. These are always a risk with any immunoadjuvant therapy.
Here's where I think the main risk of vaccination comes in: relatively few people actually got covid19. We had decent protocols in place against it, and only about 5-10% of the population here recorded getting the disease, of that, one person died. So, fair enough, anyone who actually got Covid19 might have all the same problems as someone who got the vax. But the state of new york is pushing for 100% vaccination, so a much larger portion of the population will be exposed to the syncytin immune triggers in the vaccine than in the original virus, even if vaccine makers never intended that result.
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Okay, time to start the spam wall, but slowly. No need to prove that the world is ruled by elite satanists that are hell bent on depopulation, that's not the topic, it's just backstory.
Credits to CTS for this link
https://cienciaysaludnatural.com/estudio/why-covid-19-vaccines-might-a
ffect-fertility/
I think we should connect the dots as best we can for each little part, because I think the syndrome that is going to be caused, regardless of how intentional or unintentional, by mass vaccinating the entire planet with experimental unapproved MRNA vaccines to possibly execute even one time code runs on the human genome is such an incredibly risky process with long lasting side effects potentially, that will ultimately need a cure. Which is where I'm going with this. I believe this syndrome does exist, and needs to be cured.
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The post-apocalyptic thriller “I Am Legend” is bubbling up in conversation among the vaccine-hesitant crowd, prompting the film’s screenwriter to emphasize that the plot is entirely fictional.
Akiva Goldsman, who co-wrote the screenplay for the 2007 film starring Will Smith, clarified that “I Am Legend” is pure fantasy after an unnamed source in a recent New York Times report said they feared vaccination because of the events of the film.
In that film, based on the 1954 novel of the same name, an attempt to engineer the measles virus into a cancer cure goes awry, infecting most of humanity and turning people into zombie-vampire hybrids.
Goldsman tweeted a succinct response to the misinformation inspired by the film: “Oh. My. God. It’s a movie. I made that up. It’s. Not. Real.”
The film has been a vessel for anti-vaccine sentiment since the first Covid-19 vaccines were authorized in 2020. Reuters published a “fact check” of the film’s plot in December of that year after social media users circulated claims that a “vaccine” had zombified the characters in the film.
More at https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/10/entertainment/i-am-legend-vaccines-trnd
/index.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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yeah, i saw this one and thought, no, you didn't make it up, it was a book. The book had a more intriguing ending, but overall I'm a huge Will Smith fan, and I know how much behind the scenes work he puts into making scifi epics hit the big screen, so really appreciating that. It's well done.
As for the hollywood crowd, as I said, I know they're all liberal brain trust circular thought, and so they're all wrong together, but being wrong will not help them save their own lives
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Hey Second, you stupid fuck.
Pretty funny how your arguments against the right to bear arms are playing out right now.
In New Zealand, where nobody has any guns, they are hunting down people and forcing them to get the vaccine.
That's not happening here, is it?
You stupid fuck Leftists are just further emboldening those who are pro gun ownership at a time where people who never even had a gun before are going out and getting one because your Democrat ran shitholes have crime pouring out into the suburbs.
Keep pretending that people aren't getting vaccinated because of Trump or because of a Will Smith movie you fucking idiot.
Democrats are ruining the country 10 times as fast as Republicans could ever hope to.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey Second, you stupid fuck.
was that really necessary?
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Quote:When I vaccinate my cattle, I don't ask their permission, but that's because cattle are valuable. I can't say that about any of the people I know who voted for Trump, twice, and still defend him. Whatever happens to them is immaterial.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Keep pretending that people aren't getting vaccinated because of Trump or because of a Will Smith movie you fucking idiot.
Democrats are ruining the country 10 times as fast as Republicans could ever hope to.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Texas+cattle+vaccination
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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DT
What I'd really appreciate is any links regarding syncytin-1 and aging, syncytin-1 and 2-nonenal (or its further metabolites), or syncytin-1 and aging and 2-nonenal; because I can find no links between then at first pass through.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey Second, you stupid fuck.
was that really necessary?
Yes.
You don't get to leave for four years and ask questions like this.
You have some reading to do.
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https://tv.gab.com/channel/standonprinciples/view/dr-destroys-the-enti
re-covid-narrative-611132777b022aa59dd65777
YouTube and other Big Tech aren't letting you watch this video.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:When I vaccinate my cattle, I don't ask their permission, but that's because cattle are valuable. I can't say that about any of the people I know who voted for Trump, twice, and still defend him. Whatever happens to them is immaterial.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Keep pretending that people aren't getting vaccinated because of Trump or because of a Will Smith movie you fucking idiot.
Democrats are ruining the country 10 times as fast as Republicans could ever hope to.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Texas+cattle+vaccination
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
You don't own any cattle.
But the idea of cattle vaccinating cattle is cute.
Thanks for the lolz.
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Quote:If the animal decides, only half the cattle would be vaccinated. When decisions are being made by beasts or Trump voters, good decisions aren't guaranteed.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You don't own any cattle.
But the idea of cattle vaccinating cattle is cute.
Thanks for the lolz.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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If the vaccine works you're protected.
If it doesn't work, I don't need it.
Period.
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Odds of Dying From COVID-19
Unvaccinated vs. Vaccinated
In Georgia, the unvaccinated are 87 times more likely to die than the vaccinated.
In Texas, 85 times.
For the nation as a whole, it's probably around 40 times.
https://jabberwocking.com/the-unvaccinated-are-far-more-likely-to-die-
from-covid-19-than-the-vaccinated/
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/10/us/covid-breakthrough-i
nfections-vaccines.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
DT
What I'd really appreciate is any links regarding syncytin-1 and aging, syncytin-1 and 2-nonenal (or its further metabolites), or syncytin-1 and aging and 2-nonenal; because I can find no links between then at first pass through.
1kiki
Sorry, I'll get to it. I'm very sick atm. There's not any doubt of these links in the scientific community, so there will be thousands of articles on this I'm sure I can dig up some good ones.
The short is that omega 7 breaks down into 2-nonenal and other stuff, but the 2-nonenal is consumed in syncytin synthesis, if that's not happening, it's exuded in sweat giving off a powerful odor.
Zeke Walker is the young vaccinated and so gives off far more than an actual old person, because he has far more omega 7 metabolism to begin with.
I'll find links later and post here
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Originally posted by second:
Odds of Dying From COVID-19
Unvaccinated vs. Vaccinated
In Georgia, the unvaccinated are 87 times more likely to die than the vaccinated.
In Texas, 85 times.
For the nation as a whole, it's probably around 40 times.
https://jabberwocking.com/the-unvaccinated-are-far-more-likely-to-die-
from-covid-19-than-the-vaccinated/
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/10/us/covid-breakthrough-i
nfections-vaccines.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Second, why even argue in favor of your own death. That just doesn't make any sense. Who would do that?
Anyone can look at the data on the states and see the chart you posted is categorically the opposite of reality. But you gain nothing by attempting to hold up this false narrative, it just keeps you from protecting yourself. Ultimately, your position kills you because you didn't protect yourself from the bioweapon, and it kills anyone who listens to you.
Even for the sake of trolling which I know is why you're doing it, it's still pointless, because you're arguing in favor of your own death. That's just not logically sound.
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Yes.
You don't get to leave for four years and ask questions like this.
Hmm, fair enough
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Originally posted by second:
Odds of Dying From COVID-19
Unvaccinated vs. Vaccinated
In Georgia, the unvaccinated are 87 times more likely to die than the vaccinated.
In Texas, 85 times.
For the nation as a whole, it's probably around 40 times.
Then, as I said...
If the vaccine works you're protected.
If it doesn't work, I don't need it.
It's really time you stopped giving a shit about this.
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DT
What I'd really appreciate is any links regarding syncytin-1 and aging, syncytin-1 and 2-nonenal (or its further metabolites), or syncytin-1 and aging and 2-nonenal; because I can find no links between then at first pass through.
Quote:I can wait. I hope you feel better very soon.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
1kiki
Sorry, I'll get to it. I'm very sick atm. There's not any doubt of these links in the scientific community, so there will be thousands of articles on this I'm sure I can dig up some good ones.
The short is that omega 7 breaks down into 2-nonenal and other stuff, but the 2-nonenal is consumed in syncytin synthesis, if that's not happening, it's exuded in sweat giving off a powerful odor.
Zeke Walker is the young vaccinated and so gives off far more than an actual old person, because he has far more omega 7 metabolism to begin with.
I'll find links later and post here
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From that page: “I call the [COVID] vaccine ‘Zyklon-V.’ That is the gas the Nazis used to kill my relatives. So to express my sentiments, I call it Zyklon-V. It’s an absolute weapon of mass destruction. People are being lied to, and they’re running into the gas chambers themselves because of the pathogenic fear.”
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
A vaccinated customer came in a few weeks ago, to a party we were having, and everyone got sick with symptoms that exactly matched his moderna vaccine and nothing else. . . .
https://undercurrents723949620.wordpress.com/2021/07/04/how-to-protect
-your-health-after-the-jab/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Second,
first my apologies for jumping threads, I'm reposting this from my delta thread because I don't want to have a discussion on that thread, I want just health suggestions for my own selfish desire to survive this virus.
Not sure if you were reposting that because it sounds extreme or because you're actually also concerned. I know a lot of people don't want this story because they already got the vax, but if I'd gotten this vax, I'd be a bit worried myself.
I think he's a bit extreme but not wrong. Everything he says matches my own backwards analysis starting with the old smell. For years I've been calling Fentanyl Zyklon C. Carfentanil, the original name, was developed by Janssen (maker of the J&J vax) as an intentional successor to Zyklon B. The guy is jewish and very well informed, so I'm sure he knows all that. Janssen basically took over the Mengele position at NATO when the unit was transfered from Nazi to Allied command. This whole story is part of the horror story of how europe just kept running with all the pieces of the nazi war machine and did not really de-nazify.
I think what's most interesting about that vaccine skeptic piece was who the three people are. The Scripps Salk institute put it out, the russian jewish doctor is the author of Trump's response program for COVID, the french doctor is the guy who isolate HIV, the person who Tony Fauci plagiarized for Robert Gallo back in 1980 (we know this because Fauci apologized for it around '99-2000) and the third person here is Michael Yeadon, former head fo respiratory diseases at Pfizer. The thing is, with this level of experts in the field saying this, either it's an extremely elaborate scam, or we should seriously consider their version of reality as possible.
Important to remember that, in 1938, the New York Times, NM Rothschild (who was the leader of the zionist movement) and all western govts, told UK publisher Victor Gollancz that his suspicion that German was going to attempt to genocide millions of jews in eastern europe was a baseless conspiracy theory, and as a result of that dismissal, did nothing.
It's also important to realize that if someone had simple put observers to ensure that the Germans did not genocide the jews, and the theory had been wrong, and if the Nazis had not had a plan to exterminate jews, still it would have cost everyone very little, and there would have been no toxic fallout from that action.
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Let me repost this here
https://undercurrents723949620.wordpress.com/2021/07/04/how-to-protect
-your-health-after-the-jab/
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1kiki
Doing this search now because I have nothing better to do, laying in bed.
This is creepy. I did not come in with this theory, I came to this with a lot of people complaining to me that their vaccinated friends had an "old person smell" like a nursing home. And very strong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_person_smell
I'll try to find the pages I was on before, maybe they're at my work computer. How I did the search was straightforward. Every result I got made the 2-nonenal old person smell link. So I took that as solid info.
Then I searched on the source of 2-nonenal, and it all came from Omega 7 fatty acid which is part of Omega 3 complex apparently, and used by the heart, and breaks down into products including 2-nonenal.
So the 2-nonenal omega 7 link is still everywhere, and includes the aging link
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11286617/
What I was also able to find earlier was why the old people were perspiring 2-nonenal, and it was because of a deficiency of syncytin that normally consumes the molecule (which is just one long hydrocarbon chain) to add to its own series of long hydrocarbon chains.
I'll keep looking for this missing link that's looks like it's been scrubbed, that the reason for the increase in 2-nonenal in sweat is the decrease of syncytin-1, but I conclusively found that before in regular scientific articles
I was not searching on COVID or vaccines, I was just trying to figure out why old people smelled of old person smell before I could try to explain to my friends why their vaccinated friends might have this problem.
I got this point where I was relatively certain it was syncytin-1 decline, I searched on that, and everything I got was fact check denial pages from the mainstream media saying the covid vax did not cause this problem. That was my sign I'd hit paydirt.
Here's some very sciency article about extracellular vesicle formation that I haven't wages through, but on a quick scan seems to be following the pattern I've seen
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5986851/
The pattern being this: cell membranes are made of phospholipid bylayers made of single units of long sticky hydrocarbon chains that have to be synthesised atom by atom through methylization if you don't have a ready supply of preformed ones, in which case you can do it unit by unit through a form of hypermethylization. Looking like maybe 100x the rate. So any rapid proliferation is really only possible with this process. The process in humans is dependent on syncytin 1 and 2 which come from HERV W an endogenous retrovirus, and syncytin A and B in mice that comes from some endogenous mouse virus or other I forget its name. Anyway, syncytin supplies ready made chains of hydrocarbons that it gets by concatenating nonenals. And in the above article they add nonenals to the mix and the rate of EV formation radically increases as you would expect. All the studies I looked at worked the same way. You add freely available hydrocarbon chains and hypermethylzation and rapid polymerization and proliferation radically increase (I mean, it's an obvious logical simple connection but you can also observe that it happens)
The reason why this is an efficient system is that viral DNA is about 100x more efficient than human DNA, because viruses evolve to be hyperefficient so they can be tiny and reproduce quickly. HERV W is a virus, and syncytin is a viral protein, it's just a virus and viral protein that were integrated into simiam-hominid genomes 25 million years ago, so we were all born with it and all humans and apes evolved under its influence.
This has huge implications beyond fertility of course. The ability to build cell membranes and hence divide cells at one surface unit at a time with a macromolecular preformed chain vs. one atom at a time through traditional protein folding would be essential to all rapid cell proliferation processes in the human body, including replacing blood supply
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Originally posted by SignyM:
https://thebulletin.org/2020/09/scientists-are-working-on-vaccines-tha
t-spread-like-a-disease-what-could-possibly-go-wrong/
Just reposting here
and some not completely related links
https://somebitchtoldme.com/dr-pia-myers-laughs-while-discussing-pedia
tric-hospitalization-on-cbs/
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/spotlight-red-teaming-the-post-covid-19-b
iological-weapon-threat-landscape-tickets-165764944411
https://undercurrents723949620.wordpress.com/2021/07/04/how-to-protect
-your-health-after-the-jab/
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The website doesn't auto-load from https. You have to get rid of the 's'. Here's you link, reposted:
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Thanks. It creeps me out that the video keeps getting yanked. A doctor, as a concerned parent, is talking to his schoolboard, not about opinion, but just telling people in detail how vaccines and viral infections work and how vaccines help protect you from viral infections.
The point of this is that COVID itself is not a major threat, the immune response to covid is a major threat. I realize that I'm a conspiracy theorist, now, thanks to this forum, but the no conspiracy version leads us to the same place: strengthening the immune response to a relatively harmless virus whose main danger is autoimmune conditions caused by an overactive immune response is just inherently bad medicine. Forcing people to take this risk, or pressuring them to, is not medicine at all.
Anyway, building the link between nonenal and syncytin and how I got there, without ever reading about covid vax syncytin theory before getting there.
I had friends telling me their friends smelled old post vax. That can be found at wikipedia and everywhere as 2-nonenal discharge. The step I was missing was estradiol.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12046519_2-Nonenal_Newly_Foun
d_in_Human_Body_Odor_Tends_to_Increase_with_Aging
https://academic.oup.com/humupd/article/10/6/487/626523
these two are part of what I dug through, that seems relevant to making that connection. I know what estradiol is, and the added information that one function of estradiol is to regulate the expression of syncytin, and that 2-nonenal discharge increased as estradiol decreased with age, in a direct correlation.
the vaccinated do not as far as I know have an estradiol deficiency. that was a theory i'd run into somewhere, and hadn't found anything to back up, and now i see how they got there. But the vaccine causes an immune response to a spike protein with enough similarity to syncytin that with trillions of combats between immune cells and spike protein, an erroneous identification of syncytin as the enemy becomes likely. With direct removal of syncytin from the system through autoimmune attack, no estradiol deficiency is required to have the effects that one might observe in someone with an estradiol deficiency, because they have a syncytin-1 deficiency directly.
I'm sure we can prove all of this with knockout mice at this point, and maybe someone already has.
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So DT, I'm sure you're aware that you're making some extreme claims, among them that young people will enter early senescence in 2-5(?) years due to the vax.
I'm more than happy to put this discussion on-hold till you feel well. But I do wonder - given that your claims are so extreme, and your proposed timetable for real-world feedback so short - have you thought about how you might address a failure of your predictions should that be the RW result?
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The website doesn't auto-load from https. You have to get rid of the 's'. Here's you link, reposted:
Yeah... I posted this 2 days ago from Gab.
I'm surprised that it's up on YT right now. Wont' be for long.
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I looked very thoroughly into the supposed link between syncytin-1 and SARS-CoV-2 Spike1 - and it just isn't there.
I can post the links, but unless you read them, you won't see what I saw.
But if you're interested, here's one example. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352081823_SARS-CoV-2_spike_pr
otein_seropositivity_from_vaccination_or_infection_does_not_cause_sterility/fulltext/60bf9bda458515bfdb54ca29/SARS-CoV-2-spike-protein-seropositivity-from-vaccination-or-infection-does-not-cause-sterility.pdf
I sum however, looking at pregnancy outcomes on down through the individual amino acid sequences of both syncytin-1 and SARS-CoV-2 Spike1, there is no evidence of any effect on pregnancy which is the exact critical function of syncytin-1, and virtually no homology of it with SARS-CoV-2 Spike1 at the amino acid level (the longest stretch of amino acid similarities is =2-amino acids the same, one amino acid different, followed by 2 amino acids the same=).
(The only way people 'make it work' is by saying different amino acids are the same thing - oh, this is a hydrocarbon-chain amino acid so having this different other hydrocarbon-chain amino acid instead is just as good.
Here's the list of supposed amino acid homologies. Each amino acid is designated by a single letter. And you'll see that in many of the areas of supposed identity, the letters are NOT the same. Basically, someone decided a different amino acid was good enough to count.
)
In addition, I can't find a critical role for syncytin-1 besides pregnancy. And that means syncytin-1 has no central role in males, and no central role in the elderly. And therefore its relative lack has no central role in health for non-pregnant females.
I do get that some old people smell funky because I've smelled that same smell myself on some of the many thousands of patients I've dealt with in my various jobs. And maybe some seriously ill people also smelled funky in the same way (and I do means seriously ill, as in dying of heart failure).
But as much as I looked, I found no link between 2-nonenal (or its further metabolites) and syncytin-1.
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So DT, I'm sure you're aware that you're making some extreme claim
It's a speculation. Worst case scenario. I suspect that everyone's condition will likely vary.
Consider how this immune response is actually triggered. trillions of direct interactions between immune cells and viruses that will result in a possible error and self-attack. Each individual interaction is a chance. Every time someone is getting a shot, they're also upping this chance, and other chances. I've so far seen half a dozen locals who have this specific problem, but half have also developed a secondary autoimmmune disorder. That's probably not directly due to the contents of the spike protein, but due to the strength of the immune response.
Next, what if any chance is there that corrective mechanisms will undo this error and the condition will heal? Is this low syncytin condition permanent? or does it recover?
Next, what % of people who get the vax have this problem? We have a gestapo-like approach to pro vax from authority like the world has never seen, and it's likely not going to be fair on any data. I doubt it's 100%, but it's greater than 0%
Next, what's the effect of no syncytin on the system long term. We know human and mouse babies born with no syncytin are 100% stillborn, so that doesn't bode well, it also gives us no data on how an adult with the condition would fair. My guess would be "not well" but that's definitely a guess.
Things I've found so far that require syncytin:
sperm and egg formation
embryo creating, implantation and placenta formation
fetal development
blood supply replacement
immune response
muscle and skin repair, and healing in general
So what happens in the absence of syncytin? IDK, but I'm going to suspect all of these things will happen at a much slower rate. 10%? 1%?
So, for the record I said 5-10 years, not 1-2.. I think there will be some casualties in 1-2 years, but not from rapid aging, but from autoimmune conditions.
Syncytin doesn't have a role in the elderly, the elderly have no syncytin. The rate at which the ederly age, however, is clearly many times as fast as the rate at which young and middle aged. This is why this vax makes you elderly. If you're already elderly, it probably doesn't have many adverse effects.
I'm aware it's not a complete overlap, between the spike protein and syncytin but it's enough that with trillions of encounters, it will likely happen, and has clearly happened.
The thing that should make people incredibly suspicious is the completely naziesque way this is being pushed. No policy pushed this hard is in your best interests, and most of them in the history of the world have been genocide in some form. This one I got to "this is genocide" from science. I was not at all there until I started researching the old person smell. Now I see many other people have gotten there, and their data and conclusions all seem basically identical to my own, which is not something I typically see in conspiracy theories. It's something I typically see in science. So, I got here through science, and so did everyone else who ended up at the same place. Everyone on the opposing side got there through watching television and obeying an authoritarian globalist corporate superstate that all of them on some level know is trying to kill them. So that's where my feeling on it lie, it's kind of obvious which side is closer to the truth.
Now for specifics, my specifics are guesses. And what happens if I'm proven wrong? I'll be delighted. And me and anyone else who joined me in this skepticism will have missed out on a banana. Which is to say, we'll have ended up getting one more common cold than the rest of the world.
On the other hand, if my suspicions and those of the other skeptics* are true, then those people who take the skeptic approach will be called "t
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
The website doesn't auto-load from https. You have to get rid of the 's'. Here's you link, reposted:
Yeah... I posted this 2 days ago from Gab.
I'm surprised that it's up on YT right now. Wont' be for long.
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that's a repost, it's been banned before. No doctors are allowed to explain how vaccines actually work, we must believe the media's video game style fantasy.
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That last post you made was really well written.
On this topic, have you seen Utopia yet?
I've asked the regulars here several times, but I get ignored by every one of them when I ask that question for some reason. I honestly still don't know if anybody has watched it.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So DT, I'm sure you're aware that you're making some extreme claim
It's a speculation. Worst case scenario. I suspect that everyone's condition will likely vary.
Consider how this immune response is actually triggered. trillions of direct interactions between immune cells and viruses that will result in a possible error and self-attack. Each individual interaction is a chance. Every time someone is getting a shot, they're also upping this chance, and other chances. I've so far seen half a dozen locals who have this specific problem, but half have also developed a secondary autoimmmune disorder. That's probably not directly due to the contents of the spike protein, but due to the strength of the immune response.
Next, what if any chance is there that corrective mechanisms will undo this error and the condition will heal? Is this low syncytin condition permanent? or does it recover?
Next, what % of people who get the vax have this problem? We have a gestapo-like approach to pro vax from authority like the world has never seen, and it's likely not going to be fair on any data. I doubt it's 100%, but it's greater than 0%
Next, what's the effect of no syncytin on the system long term. We know human and mouse babies born with no syncytin are 100% stillborn, so that doesn't bode well, it also gives us no data on how an adult with the condition would fair. My guess would be "not well" but that's definitely a guess.
Things I've found so far that require syncytin:
sperm and egg formation
embryo creating, implantation and placenta formation
fetal development
blood supply replacement
immune response
muscle and skin repair, and healing in general
So what happens in the absence of syncytin? IDK, but I'm going to suspect all of these things will happen at a much slower rate. 10%? 1%?
So, for the record I said 5-10 years, not 1-2.. I think there will be some casualties in 1-2 years, but not from rapid aging, but from autoimmune conditions.
Syncytin doesn't have a role in the elderly, the elderly have no syncytin. The rate at which the ederly age, however, is clearly many times as fast as the rate at which young and middle aged. This is why this vax makes you elderly. If you're already elderly, it probably doesn't have many adverse effects.
I'm aware it's not a complete overlap, between the spike protein and syncytin but it's enough that with trillions of encounters, it will likely happen, and has clearly happened.
The thing that should make people incredibly suspicious is the completely naziesque way this is being pushed. No policy pushed this hard is in your best interests, and most of them in the history of the world have been genocide in some form. This one I got to "this is genocide" from science. I was not at all there until I started researching the old person smell. Now I see many other people have gotten there, and their data and conclusions all seem basically identical to my own, which is not something I typically see in conspiracy theories. It's something I typically see in science. So, I got here through science, and so did everyone else who ended up at the same place. Everyone on the opposing side got there through watching television and obeying an authoritarian globalist corporate superstate that all of them on some level know is trying to kill them. So that's where my feeling on it lie, it's kind of obvious which side is closer to the truth.
Now for specifics, my specifics are guesses. And what happens if I'm proven wrong? I'll be delighted. And me and anyone else who joined me in this skepticism will have missed out on a banana. Which is to say, we'll have ended up getting one more common cold than the rest of the world.
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You don't need any links about the gestapo-like approach to getting vaccinated across the world.
They're pretty in your face about it. It's hard to miss unless you're intentionally trying not to see it.
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NO MORE HUMAN INTERACTION EVAR!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously. Fuck these people.
You do you.
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Not being vaccinated can lead to a fate worse than death?
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1kiki, didn't I already post in this thread?
I was just explaining all the chemical connections in the links. I mean, anyone can do this. It's pretty straightforward, and the information I just ran off was information I got from the links I posted. Anway the key missing link there I was missing before was estradiol.
The case was pretty open and shut. Also, the link there make the nonenal aging and syncytin aging connections
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You don't need any links about the gestapo-like approach to getting vaccinated across the world.
They're pretty in your face about it. It's hard to miss unless you're intentionally trying not to see it.
that is gestapo like, the gestapo weren't subtle.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You don't need any links about the gestapo-like approach to getting vaccinated across the world.
They're pretty in your face about it. It's hard to miss unless you're intentionally trying not to see it.
that is gestapo like, the gestapo weren't subtle.
Oh... I know.
I was writing in reply to Kiki.
We had to hear 4 years of hyperbole about Nazis coming from leftists and the Legacy Media under Trump, and now that TPTB are acting like literal Nazis they're fucking begging for more.
The human race will get what it deserves.
You still didn't answer my question about Utopia.
Why doesn't anybody ever answer that question?
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The human race will get what it deserves.
No, it doesn't. This is about kids. Children are being sterilized by their lunatic parents. They will also have possible rapid aging and auto immune dysfunctions. This is someone attacking your population with bioweapons, and if you shrug, you're part of the problem.
There's basically two groups of people in this world right now. Those trying to fight the beast, and those that are not. Everyone who is not trying to fight the beast might as well be the beast, for all their creator cares.
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To cents, and this is not a cop out, but just FWIW.
I'm not going to stop and argue with any single person who is going to suicide into this, because 7 billion people are about to get hit by this bioweapon and they all have an equal chance.
I'm one guy, and a very sick guy, so I'm working one step at a time. First step, funding. Second, where to station. Third, testing. No point in developing cures for people who aren't sick. We need a test to see if people have been sterilized, if they have a rapid aging condition, if their system is degenerating. I'm so sure at this point that it will happen, or is happening, that people are experiencing these side effects right now, that I'm putting my money and time into finding a cure, right now. I'm not putting it into arguing with people on the internet.
1kiki, the info is in the links, this is how I got there, and I got there without reading a single covid syncytin theory. When I ran into those, that's how I became sure I was on the right track.
That said, I will have better information later, when we can do lab tests, etc. But I'm just moving on the hunch that I have right now. If you have a background in biochem, I suggest helping.
that goes for everyone here and everywhere else, if you are a biochemist, start researching this. this is a unique situation, we've never really had global biological warfare. If you're not a biochemist, use whatever you do have. Most of this manipulation is psychological, and a solid understanding of the psyche is probably just as useful here as a solid understanding of biochem. My psychology understanding is meh, greater than zero, less than wizard.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The human race will get what it deserves.
No, it doesn't. This is about kids. Children are being sterilized by their lunatic parents. They will also have possible rapid aging and auto immune dysfunctions. This is someone attacking your population with bioweapons, and if you shrug, you're part of the problem.
There's basically two groups of people in this world right now. Those trying to fight the beast, and those that are not. Everyone who is not trying to fight the beast might as well be the beast, for all their creator cares.
I'm not going to be talked down to by a sockpuppet.
Maybe I should post the PM that I recieved from this account 4 years ago from you or whomever was manning this troll account back then, hmmmmm?
In the meantime, I'm getting that vax over my dead body. I know other people IRL who feel the same, some of which I have absolute faith that they will not back down either.
If anything you have to say about this ends up being true, we'll be among those cleaning up the dead bodies.
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There are real things to worry about besides vaccines that (1) don't sterilize people (2) don't cause rapid aging and (3) don't contain microchips or do the dozen other things that people worry about.
It's a VACCINE, like a lot of other vaccines, and I just can't be bothered to worry about irrelevancies when TPTB have taken control of all means of communication*, de-industrialized society, managed to make more than half of the USA dependent on Big Daddy Government, and shifted most of the world's money to (maybe) a dozen extremely wealthy people.
*And whatever isn't controlled by government/Big Tech is the playground for people with conspiracy theories for which there is NO EVIDENCE.
All of the lies in the M$M were just mind-fucks, and people have definitely had their minds fucked with.
Unless I see something other than speculation, don't expect me to rebutt. I feel like I'm back in the same situation where I kept asking people to show me evidence that Trump was Putin's puppet. Sorry, but I think there are better/more interesting things to post about.
I HAVE learned a lot in researching the topic, tho.
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d_in_Human_Body_Odor_Tends_to_Increase_with_Aging
Furthermore, analysis of skin surface lipids revealed that omega7 unsaturated fatty acids and lipid peroxides also increased with aging and that there were positive correlations between the amount of 2-nonenal in body odor and the amount of omega7 unsaturated fatty acids or lipid peroxides in skin surface lipids.
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https://academic.oup.com/humupd/article/10/6/487/626523
Syncytin: the major regulator of trophoblast fusion
The gene appears to be almost exclusively expressed in placenta
So there's a paper that explains there's more 2-nonenal ON THE SKIN of old people, and another that explains syncytin-1 is ALL ABOUT PREGNANCY.
The links don't make your case.
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All of the lies in the M$M were just mind-fucks, and people have definitely had their minds fucked with.
Not just the Legacy Media.
The mental abuse dealt to the people from their "leadership" the last year and a half is astounding. Not just here in the US, but EVERYWHERE.
The grand social experiment continues...
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It's amazing that nobody has died of the flu in 18 months too.
Amazing.
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I posted the one of the correlation to the estradiol, that's not chemical conenction, there was another one that had that, and I can't find it. But I got there through chemistry, I didn't have a reason to end up there otherwise. Then I posted the estradiol is the activator protein for synthesis. Anyone can look all of this up. Arguing it is just draining my time like all the politics stuff.
It's a scientific connection, I laid it out with links. I said I'd post better links when I had them. What more do you want. It's scientific reality. It's not subjective information and is not going to change. A rabbit is a rabbit and no amount of debating whether it's a cat or a dog is going to change that. omega 7 breaks down into hydrocarbon chains that a grabbed up in retroviral HERV W synthesis of syncytins that are activated by estradiol, and declines in estradiol with age lead to the excess leftover chains that get exuded as 2-nonenal. That's all there in the links in various pieces, it's how I pieced it together without reading the conspiriacy theories. I read those theories later, and some of those people maybe got there the same way, others had an actual gene map of the spike protein in front of them. Anyway, it's not a speculation at this point, the fact of that relationship is biochemistry, and it's science.
what's more concerning or should be, is that syncytin-simian symbiosis dates back 25 million years, and if you want to go back and see what life was like for those species, it was animalistic and short. All our evolution since then has been dependent on this lipid enzyme. It supplies the hydrocarbon chains to multiple human rapid cell proliferation processes. deleting it from your genome to make a corporate oligarch happy is actually the worst idea I've ever heard.
Six, I forgot about that, you already posted it. And Sig got upset that I said she was off her rocker but she knows. She once spent weeks or months hunting down River6213 who was a serious schitzo, but Sig posting Death Loving Cunt after every single River post was psycho enough that people started taking the ShadowFly thing seriously. I'm not pretending this place isn't what it. It's a looney bin.
Anyway, thanks for reminding me of that. That's why I never PM people anything anymore. And I was calling you out because it's a cop out. "Let them die" is just a lazy position. And no, still not a sock puppet. I'm not River6213 and don't have long threads talking to myself.
Signy, Yes, all those things are important, but the actual genocide in the genocide is important. It's not a vaccine, it's a bioweapon. There's not an agent that it vaccinates you against. One of the criticisms of the vax that I haven't posted here is that people who get the vax have a higher rate of Covid infection than those who don't. I've seen that posted everywhere in varying analysis and heard from many people who did get the vax and then got the Covid, vs. very few people (>0 okay) but very few who got the Covid without getting the vax first. That's a fucking useless vaccine. It doesn't even lessen the severity of your sickness if you do get covid, it increases the inflammatory response and covid doesn't really pose a health risk outside of the inflammatory response, hence why people have a worse reaction.
So yes, all the things you say about their control of the media and education and all information sources, increasingly the internet, is true, and a serious problem, but that probably needs it own thread. If we all lose 30 years off our lives and develop debilitating neurological disorders and are sterilized then that does also not make our lives better in any way. It's all under the same umbrella. Control.
My biggest mistake in this forum was spending my time on RWED instead of Talk Story. i don&#
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DT - I have gone to - and read - every one of your links. And I have assiduously looked up all the topics you've brought up on my own.
In any case, what I posted before I still mean. I'll wait till you're feeling better. If this is important to understand, then there's no hurry that a few days or weeks or months won't endure.
To be clear, I'm looking for actual biochemistry or research-level information.
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Quote:every study that I ever found showed the opposite.
DREAMTROVE: One of the criticisms of the vax that I haven't posted here is that people who get the vax have a higher rate of Covid infection than those who don't. I've seen that posted everywhere in varying analysis and heard from many people who did get the vax and then got the Covid, vs. very few people (>0 okay) but very few who got the Covid without getting the vax first. That's a fucking useless vaccine. It doesn't even lessen the severity of your sickness if you do get covid, it increases the inflammatory response and covid doesn't really pose a health risk outside of the inflammatory response, hence why people have a worse reaction.
The Israeli study showed a 40% effectiveness in PREVENTING infection comparing vax to unvax, and the Mayo study (30,000+ people in each cohort of Moderna, Pfizer/BNT, and unvaxed, each individual matched for sex, age, race etc) regularly tested for SARS-Cov2 ALSO showed an approx 40% effectiveness against infection for Pfizer/BNT and a higher effeciveness (I forget, maybe 65%) for Moderna.
And both vaccines have a 70-75% effectiveness against disease.
I have seen no such study that says otherwise.
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DT - I have gone to - and read - every one of your links. And I have assiduously looked up all the topics you've brought up on my own.
In any case, what I posted before I still mean. I'll wait till you're feeling better. If this is important to understand, then there's no hurry that a few days or weeks or months won't endure.
To be clear, I'm looking for actual biochemistry or research-level information.
Okay, which specific part of the chemical analysis are you not finding confirmation of?
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DREAMTROVE: One of the criticisms of the vax that I haven't posted here is that people who get the vax have a higher rate of Covid infection than those who don't. I've seen that posted everywhere in varying analysis and heard from many people who did get the vax and then got the Covid, vs. very few people (>0 okay) but very few who got the Covid without getting the vax first. That's a fucking useless vaccine. It doesn't even lessen the severity of your sickness if you do get covid, it increases the inflammatory response and covid doesn't really pose a health risk outside of the inflammatory response, hence why people have a worse reaction.
The Israeli study showed a 40% effectiveness in PREVENTING infection comparing vax to unvax, and the Mayo study (30,000+ people in each cohort of Moderna, Pfizer/BNT, and unvaxed, each individual matched for sex, age, race etc) regularly tested for SARS-Cov2 ALSO showed an approx 40% effectiveness against infection for Pfizer/BNT and a higher effeciveness (I forget, maybe 65%) for Moderna.
I have seen no such study that says otherwise.
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and who paid for those studies?
but sorry, I see nothing that supports what you're saying, and i've seen nothing to date that supports it.
Also, vaccines do not "prevent infection" that's a misnomer of how vaccines work. it's not a body armor shield, it's a beefing up of the immune response.
nothing can prevent infection
what happens is that the immune response gets stronger from the vaccine, and the sar-2-cov does not pose a large systematic threat on its own, the immune system's response to it causes that threat, because of the similarity with synctins. Now to be fair, syncytins are originally a viral spike protein and it's entirely possible that this is all a coincidental error problem with no evil intent, in spite of the endless history of anti-population statements and "let's have a fake plague" statements by bill gates, wef and who. It might still just be coincidence. But that said, the result is the same. It's the immune response that causes the threat. The immune response in vaccinated patients is strong. So people who have been vaccinated are at more of a risk. Which is exactly what everything seems to indicate, and everyone i've met who has had the problem post vax has had a much worse go of it. as anyone would expect. because logic, science ?
i mean fuck what the media says either way.
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The Mayo study was funded by nfernece, which is Mayo's AI for clinical data.
The Israeli study was reported by - and presumably funded by - their Health Ministry. You can find a link to the original study here https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/07/23/pfizer-shot-just-39
-effective-against-delta-infection-but-largely-prevents-severe-illness-israel-study-suggests/ The link is in the forbes article, but the report is mostly in Hebrew.
Quote:KIKI has posted an amino-acid-amino-acid comparison of synctins with the spike protein. I could find no similarity.
similarity with synctins
The statement that "the immune responseis the threat" ... if that were the case, then our immune response would be killing us off with the first infection that we ever got. our immune system is incredibaly powerful. It protects us from bacteria, viruses, cancers, and even allergens. It is a vast killing machine. But it is TARGETED, and only presents a problem when it is either (1)ineffective, (2) derails and targets the wrong thing or (3) goes completely bonkers with a cytokine storm.
This results of the Israeli study have been widely MISreported as "Pfizer kills off a whopping 40% of the vaccinated"
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there's direct genetic overlap. If there were no similarities, then there wouldn't be vaccine related syncytin deficient people who I know in reality.
But it was easy to get there. Denying the threat won't save your life. It's like not seeing a dragon in you living room because you don't believe in dragons.
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Quote:Show me where. DNA produces RNA, and RNA produces proteins. If the proteins don't compare, where is the genetic overlap?
originally posted by dreamtrove:
there's direct genetic overlap.
Quote:How do you know this? Were they tested for synctin before and after vaccination? Is this self-reported? Inferred by you? What do you base this on?
If there were no similarities, then there wouldn't be vaccine related syncytin deficient people who I know in reality.
I know people IRL too, women who were pregnant and got vaccinated and delivered healthy babies.
But, we can all point to individuals that we know who present conflicting data. In the end, you have to look at a LOT of people to see what is happening IRL.
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BTW, it's possible to OPPOSE mandatory vaccination without believing stories about the vaccine being part of the depopulation agenda, which is where I am today.
Yes, I understand that TPTB have spoken often about depopulation, and a bioweapon and/or universal vaccine would be the IDEAL mechanism to achieve that goal. But right now, not seeing any compelling evidence that shows that this is the case. I will keep an open mind about it. One possible avenue is that the vaccine (somehow) has a delayed effect.
Peace out.
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Show me where.
Okay, not for the sake of argument, but for the sake of "I can't make a test for this if I don't do the homework first" so when I get there, I'll post it all. I'll probably make a new thread for it.
I gather people who argue against me on this one have already gotten the vax, and don't want it to be true, which I can understand, but that said, if I have a sickness and it can be cured I want to know. Curing it will be much harder than identifying it.
Now, lets say I make this test and it becomes available and we test people and find that no one has acquired this condition from the covid vax (if they had it before, they'd be dead already) If so, I've just wasted time and effort.Quote:
How do you know this? Were they tested for synctin before and after vaccination?
Okay, it's a speculation. If the condition is as dangerous as it looks to me, and bearing in mind that all humans and mice born with the condition are stillborn as some indication of its lethality, I would think not. That's another reason a test would be necessary. I mean, if you want to throw out hypotheticals, there are an endless number "what other vaccinations medications or other medical treatments did these people have that might cause this condition" or "what wild type disease can cause it and how many people have had them" I'm not saying these are pointless lines of inquiry. I happen to live in an area where towards 50% of the population has lyme disease. Secondary medical conditions are are an issue. Quote:
I know people IRL too, women who were pregnant and got vaccinated and delivered healthy babies.
I have no doubt that anti-syncytin autoimmune is not a condition acquired by 100% of vaccinated people. What I am saying is I suspect it's an unhealthy level of risk, for that portion of the population for which COVID 19 does not represent a high risk, being the population under 70 who does not have a prior immunocompromised condition or a pre-existing lung condition.Quote:
But, we can all point to individuals that we know who present conflicting data. In the end, you have to look at a LOT of people to see what is happening IRL.
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BTW, it's possible to OPPOSE mandatory vaccination without believing stories about the vaccine being part of the depopulation agenda, which is where I am today.
Completely.I I'd go further than that and say it's possible to be against this specific vaccine without being against vaccines. This vaccine was created with a trillion dollar bounty trump put on the table, filled by giant multinational corporations with a very sketchy past, did not reach any approval from the FDA and was a little quick for my scienfitic credulity.
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Yes, I understand that TPTB have spoken often about depopulation, and a bioweapon and/or universal vaccine would be the IDEAL mechanism to achieve that goal. But right now, not seeing any compelling evidence that shows that this is the case. I will keep an open mind about it. One possible avenue is that the vaccine (somehow) has a delayed effect.
Peace out.
Yeah, and I definitely appreciate both you and also 1kiki have approached my skepticism with a very open mind as people not predisposed to be on my side on this one. I'm coming here with a suspicion, and I arrived at that suspicion through chemistry with no conspiracy theory, and then I met the conspiracy theory and everyone was thinking very close to exactly the same thing. Second, it would seem very much in line with things that Bill Gates in particular has done in the past, and his direct involvement in this push, Tony Fauci, his past with HIV, and his direct involvement, these make me suspicious.
I have a friend in Pakistan who was sterilized a couple years back by a vaccine he was required to get for a
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Pax is fun.
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Six, I forgot about that, you already posted it. And Sig got upset that I said she was off her rocker but she knows. She once spent weeks or months hunting down River6213 who was a serious schitzo, but Sig posting Death Loving Cunt after every single River post was psycho enough that people started taking the ShadowFly thing seriously. I'm not pretending this place isn't what it. It's a looney bin.
Anyway, thanks for reminding me of that. That's why I never PM people anything anymore.
First, I have no idea what PM you're referring to, regarding Sigs or you saying that she's off her rocker. I have no memory of any of the events you're outlining above. It must have been back in my drinking days when I was clearly off my own rocker.
Second "you already posted it"... Did I? Where and when. I still don't know what post you're referring to.
That being said now, it appears that I do owe you an apology for calling you a sockpuppet... At least in the capacity that I thought you were, anyhow.
I've decided not to reveal why right now, but let's just say your PM led me down a different rabbit hole than I thought it would.
I still can't figure out why you don't remember us posting 4 years ago after I'd sobered up though.
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And I was calling you out because it's a cop out. "Let them die" is just a lazy position. And no, still not a sock puppet. I'm not River6213 and don't have long threads talking to myself.
Let them die isn't a lazy position.
It's an "I don't give a fuck" position.
If I had kids, they would be homeschooled now like my friend is doing this year. But I don't. All I can do is offer my support to the people in my life that I care about that still haven't caved.
I have no large circle of influence, I have no power.
I have no guilt.
I never told anybody not to get vaccinated, but they all know full well what my thoughts were and still are about it before they did. That's on them.
If anything bad happens to them now, that's on them.
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Pax is fun.
Okay
I did not post this
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I still can't figure out why you don't remember us posting 4 years ago after I'd sobered up though.
literal brain damage. I had encephalitis in 2017 from bad chicken, and suffered some serious brain damage. The most notable part was bing blind in my dreams, and not being able to read and write and having to learn all over again. That would lead to me not posting anything. I remember on email I wrote that looked like this
wreff nud setti wan dous tal. hepp so dimut radden hop?
At that point I decided to stop trying to communicate. So, it wasn't so much a rage quit as when I left in 2013, but I don't really remember posting here at all. I remember posting on bitcoin forums.
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Let them die isn't a lazy position.
It's an "I don't give a fuck" position.
fair enough
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If I had kids, they would be homeschooled now like my friend is doing this year.
oh absofuckinglutely.
what rabbithole?
ps. as i said that reposting of a PM and me abandoning the concept did strike a chord in my brain but to be fair, i have no idea if it was that message to you or something else. I was having my brain eaten by a bacteria
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https://twitter.com/eh_den/status/1426885632140394499
interesting investigations into the safety hazards and silencing and non-reporting of them by corporations developing the vaccines
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I still can't figure out why you don't remember us posting 4 years ago after I'd sobered up though.
literal brain damage. I had encephalitis in 2017 from bad chicken, and suffered some serious brain damage. The most notable part was bing blind in my dreams, and not being able to read and write and having to learn all over again. That would lead to me not posting anything. I remember on email I wrote that looked like this
wreff nud setti wan dous tal. hepp so dimut radden hop?
At that point I decided to stop trying to communicate. So, it wasn't so much a rage quit as when I left in 2013, but I don't really remember posting here at all. I remember posting on bitcoin forums.Quote:
Let them die isn't a lazy position.
It's an "I don't give a fuck" position.
fair enoughQuote:
If I had kids, they would be homeschooled now like my friend is doing this year.
oh absofuckinglutely.
what rabbithole?
ps. as i said that reposting of a PM and me abandoning the concept did strike a chord in my brain but to be fair, i have no idea if it was that message to you or something else. I was having my brain eaten by a bacteria
At this point, you're just going to have to deal with the fact that I don't trust you. My trust doesn't come cheap, and your history here since my sobriety is spotty (assuming that I'm even talking to the same person I enjoyed talking with in 2017).
You should know now what rabbit hole I'm referring to if you look at this thread closely. I have no idea what PM you think you sent to me about Sigs, but you didn't sent that to me. You did send me a PM right before you disappeared 4 years ago though. I'll leave you to try to figure out what was in it on your own. The clues are right here.
Hey, if what you say about a bacteria eating your brain is true, sorry man... that sucks. But I have no reason to believe that anything you say is true right now, and I'm not one to be manipulated through pity.
As for the virus, I really hope everything you're saying is absolute bullshit. I have a lot of people I care about that already got it. I'm pulling for them not having made a catastrophic decision, and I will take no pleasure in handing out that bag of I Told You Sos.
I prefer to keep my opinions about the last year and a half somewhat more grounded, and not the type of stuff you'd hear an Alex Jones type ranting about. I'm also not a particularly religious person, so when people start throwing around terms like "The Beast", I tend to tune out. I'm also well aware that most people I'd ever talk to in the REAL world would do the same if I were going around talking about demons and lizard people too.
I don't know what's in it. And that's all I need to know.
If the vaccine works, the vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
If it doesn't, I don't need it.
Period.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Not sure what your views are on a lot of things.
I have not fully kept up on this thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62257
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