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Some Covid-19 thoughts

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Monday, August 9, 2021 9:28 AM


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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Hey, I haven't read these thousands of posts, will I find stuff in here?
I mean, the vax is a bioweapon, revelations, it's the 2nd vial, blood of the dead man, covid was the mark of the beast, 5 more sabbatean bioweapons headed our way (zioweapons?) there's a lot of chemistry behind it, which I can spam post if you want, but obvious bioweapon. looking for any resources on that angle. Not at all interested in the official story. It's obviously their bioweapon, I've heard their story.

I think COVID-19 is a bioweapon intermediate that got out before its time. My question is who owns it? I'd be really curious what you think of that.

But yeah - your story. I'm OK with you spam posting.


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Monday, August 9, 2021 9:29 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
COVID-19 accounts for nearly half of all police deaths



92 manufactured Covid-19 deaths among police officers, huh?

There were 697,195 cops in the US in 2019. They must have a higher resistance to the virus than the general population because of the line of work they chose..

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Deaths from COVID-19 nearly equal all other causes combined. And yet news reports repeatedly list police as one of the occupations most resistant to vaccination.

Only 10 deaths from heart attacks. Cops must have strong brave hearts. Only 37 deaths from guns. Cops must be bullet proof. I am pretty sure 6ix is mentally fucked when it comes to Covid-19. What the hell happened to you, 6ix, to make you this crazy and stupid? You really need to write a history explaining how you ended up unemployable, with no teeth, living all alone in a poor white trash shack. Did all that alcohol damage your brain and liver?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, August 9, 2021 9:34 AM

Awww...

Widdel dick Second resorting to personal attacks now because the narrative he follows is stupid.

You've been all-in supporting Antifa/BLM for the last year and a half.

Go pretend that you give a single shit about police officers in some other forum where we don't all know that you're a hypocrite to the core, smoothbrain.

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Monday, August 9, 2021 4:59 PM

KIKI: SIX is being an idiot and a narcissist, and as far as you're concerned, a liar and an a-hole.

I've made that point already, more than once.

But I don't intend to make "Yes you are/ no I'm not" the point pf EVERY post. I don't do that for SECONDRATE and I don't do that for THUGR; I just mostly let their trolling and stupidity go by and only pop in now and again to remind them that I think SECONDRATE has snakes in his head and he's full of hate and THUGR knows nothing about pretty much everything and fully intends to keep it that way.

And I STILL can't figure out why the Dems won't take the win on the lower death rates but are hyperfocusing on "cases" instead of "deaths".

I mean, like their many narratives - and narrative changes - CLEARLY this is a policy decision based on something OTHER THAN reality, and is being supported by the M$M and Big Tech. And like the Iraq invasion there are prolly multiple reasons from different factions as to why this is so, but I can't settle on THE overarching reason driving this.

Any thoughts?


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Pity would be no more,
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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Monday, August 9, 2021 5:36 PM

KIKI: I know that YOU know that the reporting on Covid-19 is entirely distorted, and that you would make mincemeat of the following article, if you bothered to read it at all, since the print version is only good for wrapping fish

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They are just making up narratives now, and the media are not calling them out on it….

The Director of the CDC made an important admission during an interview today on CNN. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky stated the vaccine does not prevent COVID-19 infection, nor does it stop the vaccinated person from transmitting the infection or the delta variant. According to Director Walensky, the only benefit from the vaccine now is ,presumably ,that it reduces the severity of symptoms.

First of all, getting vaccinated DOES reduce the chance of getting infected by about 40% according to Israel, which has a high (60%) vaccination rate. Obviously not foolproof but MUCH better than paper masks.

Secondly, "presumably" reduce the severity of symptoms? I've been following Divoc-91, and in every nation where the vulnerable are vaccinated, the "case rate" and "death rate" have taken a sharp divergence. There is no "presumption" here.

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If a vaccinated and non-vaccinated person have the same capacity to carry, shed and transmit the virus – with or without symptoms
Not true, according to the data
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– then what difference does a vaccination passport or vaccination ID make?

According to the CDC TODAY, both the vaxxed and non-vaxxed person walking into a restaurant, store, group, venue or workplace present the exact same risk to other people there, so how does the presentation of proof of vaccine make any difference? WATCH:

(UPDATE – Google removed the video, I replaced with Rumble)

Well, I watched it, and THAT IS NOT WHAT SHE SAID.

What she said was IF you're infectedou have the same chance of passing on the virus.

This wouldn't be the first time that some have lied about data, or what people have said about data. Not a big fan of the CDC, bu when you have to outright lie to make your point (like the guy who said that there was no difference in fatality rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, and used SAFETY DATA) then obviously you have no point to make.

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Additionally, her entire statement makes no sense. There is no evidence that vaccinated asymptomatic carriers are asymptomatic because of the vaccine. There are likely just as many asymptomatic non-vaccinated carriers. The data shows an equally distributed infection rate regardless of vaccination rate,
WHERE IS THE DATA? Because the data that *I* saw sys no such thing
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which is simultaneously admitted by Direcor Walensky
BIG FAT LIE
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which, as an outcome, is an admission that undercuts the entire argument for compulsory vaccines.
except there was no such "admission".

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The reverse is also evident in the data. There are just as many vaxxed carriers who are symptomatic (ie. sick), as there are un-vaxxed carriers who are symptomatic (ie. sick). The percentage of vaxxed and non-vaxxed people hospitalized it [is] identical to the vaxxed/non-vaxxed population around the hospital.
NO LINK TO DATA

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In regional populations with extremely high vaccination rates, the COVID infection rate continues unabated. The percentage of vaccinated people hospitalized is identical to the percentage of people vaccinated in the community.
NO LINK TO DATA

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In Gibraltar, 99% of the population vaccinated; COVID infection rate climbs. In Iceland over 75% of population vaccinated; infection rate climbs. Singapore and Israel show the same thing [Data Sets Here]. So what value is the vaccination passport?


This is the

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Monday, August 9, 2021 5:52 PM


I don't think the story is written yet on delta and deaths. And I'm not going to predict which way this is going to go either, since I don't have enuf information.

But a quick look at the NYTimes summaries of stats indicates that 'cases' as a category (deadly new ... thread) has gone up let's call it ~115%, while 'deaths' as a category has gone up about 90% at this point.


Here are the stats:

United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 5 14-day change
New cases 100,199 +119%
New deaths 439 +74%


United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 7 14-day change
New cases 108,513 +111% cases trajectory last two weeks
New deaths 506 +89% deaths trajectory last two weeks


United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 8 14-day change
New cases 110,360 +112% cases trajectory last two weeks
New deaths 516 +92% deaths trajectory last two weeks



So 'deaths' is catching up to 'cases', with the time lag I expect between the 2.

The ~50% 'unvaccinated' skews heavily to POC and the young. Perhaps the increased vulnerability of POC to death from COVID-19 is balancing out the decreased vulnerability to death of young people from COVID-19 so that it looks like there may not be a youth benefit in the over-all stats during this wave ... but it's "Too close to call at this time."

What do you estimate the 'previously infected' is? I've seen numbers up to 30%, but that seems to be an outlier. Spitball 15%.

That means that roughly 2/3 of the country is protected at some level from COVID-19 either from a vax or from previous infection, but 1/3 still is not. So the delta-variant wave should be making a quick run-through of about 1/3 of the US.

It's too early for a victory lap, imo.

I expect COVID-19 outright deaths to be 3/4 of a million after delta runs through.

And I expect there'll be a long-term country-wide health consequence from previous COVID-19 infections - in the form of long-COVID neurological and medical deficits.

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Monday, August 9, 2021 6:49 PM

I think it's around 15% previously infected from the various serological tests that have been done, averaging areas with high infection rates (eg. NYC) and lower infection rates (eg, upstate NY)

You may be right about "too early to declare victory".

Deaths are going up ... not a whole lot, in absolute terms, but if I compare it to the "cases" of four weeks ago (counting for lag time between "cases" and "deaths") the number of deaths per infected comes out the same as the previous variant peak about 200 days (7 months) ago.

Curiously, in THAT peak the peak "cases" and peak "deaths" were about cotemporaneous.

Anyway, I will continue to monitor "deaths" as the more meaningful figure. The experience of other nations with high vaccination rates is that the higher the vaccination rate, the lower the death rate.

Israel, which has a vaccination rate of about 60%, had 0.0074 deaths per case before vaccination and 0.0025 deaths per case now. Iceland, with near-universal vaccination, has zero deaths per case.

EDITED TO ADD: When I get my data from Divoc-91, I report what they call "cases", but in reality what they call "cases" may be "infections", prolly confirmed by Covid PCR test. Not the same. They also report "hospitalizations". I'll look thru their website more closely and see if I can clarify their definitions.

So far, except for Israel, I haven't seen any "vaccinated v unvaccinated" infection rates and infection death rates. so we're dealing with bulk figures that lump a lot of different categories together.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Monday, August 9, 2021 7:09 PM

I've got things to do today.

No time to waste mulling over fake made up numbers for me.

Knock yourselves out.

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Monday, August 9, 2021 10:45 PM

Ron Paul: I will shut down the Senate over any COVID bill whatsoever

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski
Rand Paul today: “It’s time for us to resist. They can’t arrest all of us .. No one should follow the CDC.” He then says he will introduce amendments to defund any govt agency that seeks to enforce CDC guidelines, including schools.

9:11 PM · Aug 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1424553962116718595

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Monday, August 9, 2021 10:51 PM

Now he's dead...

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