new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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I just want to comment here that I think the 'messaging' has been bungled from the start. In other words, by concentrating on the 'messaging' (narrative) and distorting facts, trust has been lost.
So I already pointed out that too much was presented with too much certainty, when in fact there were huge and critical blank areas. And I pointed out that by blurring the lines around 'effectiveness' (serious illness and death) people basically over-promised results, as well as by not highlighting that there would be breakthrough infections, and that variants would emerge.
Joe* did a lot of that over-promising. So a lot of the backlash should fall on him.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Since hardly anybody goes to Divoc-91 and a picture is worth 1000 words
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/covid0803.jpeg
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Yes. Thank you.
The Krystal and Saagar video I posted the other day had this graph in it too.
But it was an interactive thing and I couldn't download it.
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NYTimes yesterday:
United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 5 14-day change
New cases 100,199 +119%
New deaths 439 +74%
Generally it takes about 2 weeks for deaths to catch up to cases.
Since this is supposedly a surge mainly among the young, it'll be interesting to see what happens - will deaths track cases after the natural delay?
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I cruise by Salon every now and again to see what they're up to.
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Republicans ramp up the racism to deflect blame for COVID surge
Amanda Marcotte
Everyone knows that is unvaccinated Trumpers spreading delta, but Republicans want to blame immigrants instead
Rather than blame the obvious culprits for the pandemic — Fox News-addled anti-vaxxers — Republicans are increasingly accusing immigrants at the Southern border of bringing in COVID-19, and Biden of supposedly letting them. After Biden rightfully called out Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, for his part in letting COVID-19 run rampant, DeSantis pitifully tried to hit back by claiming Biden "imported more virus from around the world by having a wide-open southern border."
https://www.salon.com/2021/08/06/republicans-ramp-up-the-racism-to-def
lect-blame-for-covid-surge/
Does the author mean to say that illegal immigrants couldn't possibly be bringing in COVID-19 because they've all been vaccinated?
This is an egregious use of the 'false dilemma' lie.
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NYTimes
United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 5 14-day change
New cases 100,199 +119%
New deaths 439 +74%
United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 7 14-day change
New cases 108,513 +111% cases trajectory last two weeks
New deaths 506 +89% deaths trajectory last two weeks
It takes about 2 weeks for 'deaths' to catch up to 'cases'. So I'll be checking this from time to time. If 'deaths' never catches up, then it'll be clear that the delta variant either isn't as deadly per se, or that the infected population skewed significantly younger.
I've read elsewhere that the delta variant was a flash-fire in England, that spiked and dropped equally quickly. Going to 91-DIVOC, unfortunately it doesn't list England, or Great Britain, just the UK. ( https://www.thoughtco.com/united-kingdom-great-britain-and-england-143
5711 Difference Between the UK, Great Britain, and England)
While it's true that 'cases' soared dramatically by a factor of about 20 (from ~5/100k to ~100/100k), and then dropped quickly, they only dropped by a third off the peak (to ~33/100k) before rising again. Whether that secondary rise is a blip or a trend is still to be seen.
Deaths otoh rose by a factor of only 7 (~.03 to ~.2), though at those levels 'noise' in the data is significant, and they too are showing an upward tick after dropping somewhat.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I cruise by Salon every now and again to see what they're up to.Quote:
Republicans ramp up the racism to deflect blame for COVID surge
Amanda Marcotte
Everyone knows that is unvaccinated Trumpers spreading delta, but Republicans want to blame immigrants instead
Rather than blame the obvious culprits for the pandemic — Fox News-addled anti-vaxxers — Republicans are increasingly accusing immigrants at the Southern border of bringing in COVID-19, and Biden of supposedly letting them. After Biden rightfully called out Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, for his part in letting COVID-19 run rampant, DeSantis pitifully tried to hit back by claiming Biden "imported more virus from around the world by having a wide-open southern border."
https://www.salon.com/2021/08/06/republicans-ramp-up-the-racism-to-def
lect-blame-for-covid-surge/
Does the author mean to say that illegal immigrants couldn't possibly be bringing in COVID-19 because they've all been vaccinated?
This is an egregious use of the 'false dilemma' lie.
Hey Salon. You're not going to bother bringing up the fact that the largest percentages of unvaccinated people by race are black and Latino among ACTUAL US Citizens, huh?
LOL. That sure sounds like racism to me.
Me bringing it up isn't racist. Because I'm THRILLED that it's my black and Latino brothers and sisters who are standing with me.
It's a NO FUCKING WIN situation for your narrative.
GO AHEAD, BEZOS. MAKE VACCINATIONS MANDATORY FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES AND EXPLAIN TO THE WORLD WHY YOU CUT HALF OF YOUR WORKFORCE AND THEY WERE ALMOST ALL EXCLUSIVELY NOT WHITE.
You fucking creeps.
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To continue commenting on the god-awful 'news' coverage of all sides flogging their own narratives:
To recap, I've already commented on the false narrative of Biden's* pro-vax administration.
But to summarize the basic points and reiterate them: There were questions RIGHT AT THE START of the pandemic, when it was thought to still be isolated to China ... way back when in 2019 ... about whether or not natural SARS-CoV-2 infection would create effective immunity, and how durable any immunity might be. OBVIOUSLY those questions carried over to any vaccine. But with vaccines a new question was added - how well would central immunity work when it came to preventing infection and preventing spread, since those happen at the mucosal surface, where mucosal immunity is in effect, and vaccine immunity is not? And with time, of course the development of variants has led to the question of vaccine effectiveness against them. MOST OF THOSE QUESTIONS STILL HAVE NO DEFINITIVE ANSWERS. And scientifically, those answers probably won't be had until long after the dust has settled and someone has the time and resources to take a thorough retrospective look at the data. Or as the punchline to the old joke goes, "pathologists know everything about everything, only too late".
All these swirling unknowns didn't stop the Biden* administration, AND THE BUREAUCRATS LIKE FAUCI, from over-selling the vaccines by not highlighting the unanswered questions, like the ability to catch and spread the disease despite vaccination, how long immunity lasts, and how well with vaccines work again variants. Biden* of course is an ignorant mouthpiece. But Fauci et all know better. They purvey propaganda.
Moving on to the other side of the propaganda equation - how is intentionally bad reporting being used to propagandize people about COVID-19 and the various vaccines?
At the moment I'm not going to address the complete nonsense like 'vaccines change your DNA'. I'm going to focus on the reporting that PRETENDS to be based on objective facts, that does, in fact completely misrepresent reality.
I already addressed Signy's post where Berenson egregiously claimed that
Quote:by using numbers from an altogether different study that had nothing to do with deaths from COVID-19. At all.
The pivotal clinical trial for the @pfizer #Covid vaccine shows it does nothing to reduce the overall risk of death. ZERO.
Here's some more propaganda.
Quote:So how massive is this massive spike?
Gibraltar, Iceland See MASSIVE Covid Spike Despite Over 90% of Population Vaccinated
Countries across globe see similar phenomenon where the vaccinated are being reinfected with Covid. Stats prove vaccine actually spreading disease!
https://nworeport.me/2021/07/30/gibraltar-iceland-see-massive-covid-sp
ike-despite-over-90-of-population-vaccinated/
Cases in Gibraltar went up from 2 to 30 ... ... not per capita, in the entire country. (FT.com/covid19).
Cases in Iceland have gone up from about 2 to about 116 ... not per capita, in the entire country. ( https://ourworldindata.org/)
By ignoring the denominator (2 cases) the authors could claim a 5700% increase in Iceland and a 1400% increase in Gibraltar, while ignoring the fact that the total number of cases is really, really low. IS this a MASSIVE COVID-19 spike as reported? Hardly.
BTW, not reporting the denominator is a very common method of inflating perceptions. I'll provide a mathematical example: in a country with ZERO COVID-19 cases, one case is a literally infinitely higher percentage than before. If I start out with one case, and increase to 11 cases, and while this is a completely minuscule number of cases in any country in the world, it calculates out to a 1,000% increase. And so on.
To get back to the same article, here's the headline again Gibraltar, Iceland S
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NYTimes
United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 5 14-day change
New cases 100,199 +119%
New deaths 439 +74%
United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 7 14-day change
New cases 108,513 +111% cases trajectory last two weeks
New deaths 506 +89% deaths trajectory last two weeks
United States ›
Avg. on Aug. 8 14-day change
New cases 110,360 +112% cases trajectory last two weeks
New deaths 516 +92% deaths trajectory last two weeks
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Gotta inflate those death numbers again.
It's futile for them though.
People who were weak enough to get vaccinated already did. If they want everyone to get one, they're going to have to risk their lives attempting to administer the rest of them.
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COVID: 90% of patients treated with new Israeli drug discharged in 5 days
By ROSSELLA TERCATIN AUGUST 5, 2021 22:24
The Phase II trial for an Israeli COVID drug saw some 29 out of 30 patients, moderate to serious, recover within days.
Some 93% of 90 coronavirus serious patients treated in several Greek hospitals with a new drug developed by a team at Tel Aviv’s Sourasky Medical Center as part of the Phase II trial of the treatment were discharged in five days or fewer.
The Phase II trial confirmed the results of Phase I, which was conducted in Israel last winter and saw 29 out of 30 patients in moderate to serious condition recover within days.
“The main goal of this study was to verify that the drug is safe,” Prof. Nadir Arber said. “To this day we have not registered any significant side effect in any patient from both groups.”
The trial was conducted in Athens because Israel did not have enough relevant patients. The principal investigator was Greece’s coronavirus commissioner, Prof. Sotiris Tsiodras.
Arber and his team, including Dr. Shiran Shapira, developed the drug based on a molecule that the professor has been studying for 25 years called CD24, which is naturally present in the body.
“It is important to remember that 19 out of 20 COVID-19 patients do not need any therapy,” Arber said. “After a window of five to 12 days, some 5% of the patients start to deteriorate.”
The main cause of the clinical deterioration is an over activation of the immune system, also known as a cytokine storm. In case of COVID-19 patients, the system starts attacking healthy cells in the lungs.
“This is exactly the problem that our drug targets,” he said.
CD24 is a small protein that is anchored to the membrane of the cells and it serves many functions including regulating the mechanism responsible for the cytokine storm.
Arber stressed that their treatment, EXO-CD24, does not affect the immune system as a whole, but only targets this specific mechanism, helping find again its correct balance.
“This is precision medicine,” he said. “We are very happy that we have found a tool to tackle the physiology of the disease.”
“Steroids for example shut down the entire immune system,” he further explained. “We are balancing the part responsible for the cytokine storms using the endogenous mechanism of the body, meaning tools offered by the body itself.”
Arber noted that another breakthrough element of this treatment is its delivery.
“We are employing exosomes, very small vesicles derived from the membrane of the cells which are responsible for the exchange of information between them,” he said.
“By managing to deliver them exactly where they are needed, we avoid many side effects,” he added.
The team is now ready to launch the last phase of the study.
“As promising as the findings of the first phases of a treatment can be, no one can be sure of anything until results are compared to the ones of patients who receive a placebo,” he said.
Some 155 coronavirus patients will take part in the study. Two-thirds of them will be administered the drug, and one-third a placebo.
The study will be conducted in Israel and it might be also carried out in other places if the number of patients in the country will not suffice.
“We hope to complete it by the end of the year,” Arber said.
If the results are confirmed, he vowed that the treatment can be made available relatively quickly and at a low cost.
“In addition, a success could pave the wave to treat many other diseases,” he concluded.
https://m.jpost.com/health-science/covid-90-percent-of-patients-treate
d-with-new-israeli-drug-discharged-in-5-days-675961
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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