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Tuesday, July 20, 2021 2:36 PM



Well, at least I now have some idea where JO's grotch against RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! comes from.


He thinks his lot in life is due to his father's poor decisions, rather than, for example, his own inability to get and keep a job. Though it might be that his mother enabled that thinking as well, by protecting her precious, misunderstood son from real-world consequences and blaming dad.

According to his account, his father was suckered by either Jews or Russians. And according to him it's extremely questionable which way it went. But he can't blame .Jews. because it's not fashionable to ever hold .Jews. accountable for their actions because ... .Hitler. .Hitler. absolves .Jews. from being accountable for anything, either in the past or in the entire future course of human history. Besides, blaming an entire group like .Jews. for the actions of individuals looks too much like antisemitism. But it IS fashionable to blame RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! and demonize an entire country for everything, from UFOs to UTIs, whether they did anything they're blamed for or not. And besides, that's not being irrationally biased ! It's fact. /sarcasm

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Tuesday, July 20, 2021 3:25 PM

You can find evidence in the literature on cults of personality about why Trump's defenders poke out their own eyes, blinding themselves for the greater glory of their leader. Signym, 1kiki and 6ix can see nothing, can know nothing, can believe nothing about their leader Trump:

Republicans Have Their Own Private Autocracy
July 19, 2021
https://web.archive.org/web/20210720013044/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/07/19/opinion/republicans-donald-trump-misinformation.html


I’m a huge believer in the usefulness of social science, especially studies that use comparisons across time and space to shed light on our current situation. So when the political scientist Henry Farrell suggested that I look at his field’s literature on cults of personality, I followed his advice. He recommended one paper in particular, by the New Zealand-based researcher Xavier Márquez; I found it revelatory.

“The Mechanisms of Cult Production” compares the behavior of political elites across a wide range of dictatorial regimes, from Caligula’s Rome to the Kim family’s North Korea, and finds striking similarities. Despite vast differences in culture and material circumstances, elites in all such regimes engage in pretty much the same behavior, especially what the paper dubs “loyalty signaling” and “flattery inflation.”

Signaling is a concept originally drawn from economics; it says that people sometimes engage in costly, seemingly pointless behavior as a way to prove that they have attributes others value. For example, new hires at investment banks may work insanely long hours, not because the extra hours are actually productive, but to demonstrate their commitment to feeding the money machine.

In the context of dictatorial regimes, signaling typically involves making absurd claims on behalf of the Leader and his agenda, often including “nauseating displays of loyalty.” If the claims are obvious nonsense and destructive in their effects, if making those claims humiliates the person who makes them, these are features, not bugs. I mean, how does the Leader know if you’re truly loyal unless you’re willing to demonstrate your loyalty by inflicting harm both on others and on your own reputation?

And once this kind of signaling becomes the norm, those trying to prove their loyalty have to go to ever greater extremes to differentiate themselves from the pack. Hence “flattery inflation”: The Leader isn’t just brave and wise, he’s a perfect physical specimen, a brilliant health expert, a Nobel-level economic analyst, and more. The fact that he’s obviously none of these things only enhances the effectiveness of the flattery as a demonstration of loyalty.

Does all of this sound familiar? Of course it does, at least to anyone who has been tracking Fox News or the utterances of political figures like Lindsey Graham or Kevin McCarthy.

Many people, myself included, have declared for years that the G.O.P. is no longer a normal political party. It doesn’t look anything like, say, Dwight Eisenhower’s Republican Party or Germany’s Christian Democrats. But it bears a growing resemblance to the ruling parties of autocratic regimes.

The only unusual thing about the G.O.P.’s wholesale adoption of the Leader Principle is that the party doesn’t have a monopoly on power; in fact, it controls neither Congress nor the White House. Politicians suspected of insufficient loyalty to Donald Trump and Trumpism in general aren’t sent to the gulag. At most, they stand to lose intraparty offices and, possibly, future primaries. Yet such is the timidity of Republican politicians that these mild threats are apparently enough to make many of them behave like Caligula’s courtiers.

Unfortunately, all this loyalty signaling is putting the whole nation at risk. In fact, it will almost surely kill large numbers of Americans in the next few months.

The stalling of America’s initially successful vaccination drive isn’t entirely driven by partisanship — some people, especially members of minority groups, are failing to get vaccinated for reasons ha

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Tuesday, July 20, 2021 6:11 PM

Trump is not my leader.

Biden* is your though, huh?



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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Tuesday, July 20, 2021 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump is not my leader.

Biden* is your though, huh?

Republicans are always looking for ways to show that they’re more committed to the Trump than their colleagues are — and given how far down the rabbit hole the party has already gone, the only way to do that is “nonsense and nihilism,” advocating crazy and destructive policies, like opposing vaccines.

That is, hostility to vaccines has become a form of loyalty signaling.

As a reminder, 6ix, your opposition to vaccination and masks and everything about preventing the spread of Covid-19 is well known.

6ix, you even deny that Covid-19 killed anyone. You are full of “nonsense and nihilism,” advocating crazy and destructive policies. And you already pledged to vote for Trump a third time. You are not truthful when you wrote "Trump is not my leader".

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 8:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump is not my leader.



We know. It's Putin.

Quote:

Biden* is your though, huh?


Yes. He'z the Prez. Thats how it works.


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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 8:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump is not my leader.

Quote:

]Originally posted by JO753:
We know. It's Putin.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Biden* is your though, huh?

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Yes. He'z the Prez. Thats how it works.

Was Trump ever your leader? Because he was president. And - according to you - that's how it works. Your president is your leader.

Or do you maintain a double set of standards?

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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 8:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Trump is not my leader.

Quote:

]Originally posted by JO753:
We know. It's Putin.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Biden* is your though, huh?

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Yes. He'z the Prez. Thats how it works.

Was Trump ever your leader? Because he was president. And - according to you - that's how it works. Your president is your leader.

Or do you maintain a double set of standards?




He kind of fell right into that one, didn't he?



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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 6:11 PM

We had a CEO for 4 yirz.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 6:14 PM

We've got a lobotomized child grabber right now.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 6:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
We had a CEO for 4 yirz.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

If that's the worst you can say ...

BTW, many public organizations, charities and foundations also have CEOs. I was just thinkig about that the other day: One of the reasons for Trump failing to accomplish what he set out to do was that he didn't grok the DC power structure. He thought he was CEO when in reality he was just the President, in a structure designed with division of powers in mind.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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