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The Evidens

POSTED BY: JO753
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Friday, July 16, 2021 4:17 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Accused Russiagate 'Spy' Kilimnik Speaks -- and Evidence Backs His 'No Collusion' Account


https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/05/19/accused_ru
ssiagate_spy_kilimnik_speaks_-_and_evidence_backs_his_no_collusion_account_777328.html


NO EVIDENS
COUNTERVAILING EVIDENS

Strike 16!

Speaking to Real Clear Investigations in fluent English from his home in Moscow, Kilimnik, 51, described these U.S. government assertions as "senseless and false accusations." Putin has made similar false statements from Moscow about his own innocence, but never from an American courtroom where he could be punished for perjury. Kilimnik and Putin both know how to play offended Russians in Moscow complaining about "senseless and false accusations." What American judge has the power and reach to stop either Putin or Kilimnik from lying their heads off in Moscow?

The FBI is offering a reward of up to $250,000 for information leading to the arrest of Konstantin Viktorovich Kilimnik. The FBI wants him to testify in an American court for a jury, not in Moscow for Real Clear Investigations:
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/counterintelligence/konstantin-viktorovich-
kilimnik


Despite his centrality to the Trump-Russia saga, Kilimnik says no U.S. government official has ever tried get in touch with him. "I never had a single contact with [the] FBI or any government official," Kilimnik says. I doubt that is true. Kilimnik could make $250,000, paid by the FBI, if he would return to America. The FBI would even buy him a Moscow-to-New York City plane ticket if he would turn himself in. If that seems all too weird for Kilimnik to directly receive $250,000, then maybe his girl friend or wife can collect the money by calling 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324) or submit a tip online at https://tips.fbi.gov/ .

See the wanted poster for details:
www.fbi.gov/wanted/counterintelligence/konstantin-viktorovich-kilimnik
/konstantin-viktorovich-kilimnik.pdf


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 5:00 AM

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Originally posted by Vlad:And when the Internet Research Agency actually showed up in court, Mueller's team quietly folded their tents and slipped away in the night.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/why-did-justice-de
partment-drop-its-prosecution-2-firms-linked-n1161886


From the article:
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Marc Raimondi, a spokesman for the Justice Department's National Security Division, said Concord Management "was making a mockery of our legal system and had no intention of providing the materials the court asked for. They have sought to weaponize the discovery process."


Everything else you spent your time posting iz also garbaj. An important point you missed iz the overall messij it deliverz.

Wut ever happened to 'no contacts wutsoever' that Trump, Pence, Manafort, Trump Jr, Sessions, and on and on and on so loudly claimed till the middle uv 2017? Wy did they need to lie?

They were proven to be LYING LIARZ hoo then retreated to "no colusion" even az proof started emerjing that they were activly coluding all along. So, wy woud anybody beleev that unless they really wanted to?

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 5:45 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The investigation is over. No indictments were issued against Trump, and the one indictment against a Russian company that actually started to go to trial? The DOJ withdrew its case.

The reason why there will be NO TRIALS is because court-worthy evidence IS LACKING.

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Originally posted by JO753:


You forgot to mention all the gilty pleaz and convictionz.

https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-plea
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For things which had nothing at all to do with Trump, Russia, or collusion.

You left out those important facts.

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 5:54 AM


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Originally posted by JO753:
... even az proof started emerjing that they were activly coluding all along.

Where's the EVIDENS, JO?

Certainly Mueller didn't find any, and nobody else was empowered to look.

Unless of course you think anonymous gossip, allegation, speculation, and innuendo are EVIDENS?

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 1:30 PM

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SIGNY: And when the Internet Research Agency actually showed up in court, Mueller's team quietly folded their tents and slipped away in the night.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/why-did-justice-de
partment-drop-its-prosecution-2-firms-linked-n1161886


JO: From the article:
Quote:

Marc Raimondi, a spokesman for the Justice Department's National Security Division, said Concord Management "was making a mockery of our legal system and had no intention of providing the materials the court asked for. They have sought to weaponize the discovery process."



What does that mean, "weaponizing the discovery process"? And what was the reason that the DOJ gave the judge (not some blurb into a microphone)

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The Government has identified several considerations in its motion to dismiss that relate to the national security interests implicated by proceeding against defendants Concord Management and Consulting LLC and Concord Catering ('Concord Defendants')," prosecutors wrote. "For the benefit of the Court, the Government seeks to provide information regarding these national security interests. These facts can only be filed ex parte because they are classified."

http://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_4baa96117038debfe9b002fd30de7fcc

"Ex parte" means "without the presence of the other"

Basically, the DOJ filed to dismiss because Concorde had asked for the evidence against it ("discovery", a normal part of a trial) and the DOJ apparently suddenly decided that the evidence was "classified" and couldn't be shared with the defendant.

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"Upon careful consideration of all of the circumstances, and particularly in light of recent events and a change in the balance of the government's proof due to a classification determination, as well as other facts described in more detail in a classified addendum to this motion, the government has concluded that further proceedings as to Concord, a Russian company with no presence in the United States and no exposure to meaningful punishment in the event of a conviction, promotes neither the interests of justice nor the nation's security."
So whether or not the EVIDENS should have been unclassified, was classified, or they used the "classification" excuse to avoid revealing that they had no EVIDENS at all, NO EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED IN COURT.

NO EVIDENS.

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Wut ever happened to 'no contacts wutsoever' that Trump, Pence, Manafort, Trump Jr, Sessions, and on and on and on so loudly claimed till the middle uv 2017? Wy did they need to lie?
Yanno, I never recalled Trump or anyone saying that, and when I tried to web search for a quote that was EVER said, I came up with nothing.

So I would look for quotes along those lines, if I were you, if only to prove to myself that I wasn't mis-remembering it.

In any case, if Trump has said something like that I personally would have understood it to mean no contacts ABOUT THE ELECTION. Bc everyone knows that Trump made a lot of money with the Miss Universe contest in Russia in 2013 (as BTW did NBC https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/trump-nbc-split-dollar47-million-on-
russian-financed-miss-universe-pageant-nyt-inquiry-reveals/ar-BB19tMm9
) and as a businessman he probably would have made other contacts for further BUSINESS in Russia. But, so have a lot of other people, including Hillary Clinton and Angela Merkel. Also, since he had an incoming administration, I assume that his people would have been in contact with "their people" early on, just to establish lines of communication and to keep them open, just as I assume the Biden* administration established early contacts with Russ

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Saturday, July 17, 2021 6:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by Vlad:And when the Internet Research Agency actually showed up in court, Mueller's team quietly folded their tents and slipped away in the night.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/why-did-justice-de
partment-drop-its-prosecution-2-firms-linked-n1161886


From the article:
Quote:

Marc Raimondi, a spokesman for the Justice Department's National Security Division, said Concord Management "was making a mockery of our legal system and had no intention of providing the materials the court asked for. They have sought to weaponize the discovery process."


Everything else you spent your time posting iz also garbaj. An important point you missed iz the overall messij it deliverz.

Wut ever happened to 'no contacts wutsoever' that Trump, Pence, Manafort, Trump Jr, Sessions, and on and on and on so loudly claimed till the middle uv 2017? Wy did they need to lie?

They were proven to be LYING LIARZ hoo then retreated to "no colusion" even az proof started emerjing that they were activly coluding all along. So, wy woud anybody beleev that unless they really wanted to?

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Sorry dude. We saw your Keith Olbermann videos.

You're a smart guy, but you're on a crazy train here.

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Sunday, July 18, 2021 9:43 AM

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GOP Senators Demand Answers After 60% Of Phones Used By Mueller Probe Go Missing



Looks like Mueller believes in dealing with evidence the way Hillary does: make it disappear.

"Like, with a cloth?"

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Sunday, July 18, 2021 10:35 AM



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Sunday, July 18, 2021 2:06 PM

JO: Trump's denials were CLEARLY about "collusion" between Russia and his campaign.

The written text makes it VERY CLEAR. Just.... read the words, OK? "campaign" is in MANY of the statements. "cats" is on one. "puppet" is in another. "agents" in still another.

Try to comprehend what they're saying.

Or, why don't you just misunderstand EVERYTHING? Yanno, violently twist it to fit your narrative?

Oh, that's right, you already do!

*****

If you insist, Ill go thru it piece by piece to explain to you what's being said and what it means.

For example, first denial: They're talking to Manafort, Trump's campaign manager. They aren't asking Manafort about the price of corn in Iowa or Trump's past or ongoing business dealings with Russia, which Manafort would have no knowldge of. They're asking Manafort about what he should know: the Trump CAMPAIGN. Is the Trump CAMPAIGN coordinating with Russia, about the CAMPAIGN? In Trump THE CANDIDATE coordinating with Russia about his CAMPAIGN? They even use the word "campaign". How can it possibly be any clearer???

I mean, you have to eliminate most phrases from their questions and entirely remove knowledge of WHO they're interviewing (campaign manager) and WHEN they're interviewing (during the campaign)- i.e. remove the entire context - in order to present this as a blanket denial of "no contacts ever".

And yet, you manage!

Shall I continue?




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Monday, July 19, 2021 1:33 AM

Nope.



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