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Saturday, July 10, 2021 8:06 PM

This was from a post I made on March 10th, but it was a summation of things I'd been saying way back in 2020.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What she told her husband is what the media is suggesting that EVERYONE who is getting vaccinated do to anybody who isn't getting vaccinated. And also doing to them what she did to him.

Guilt them.

Guilting him to guilt them.



Here's the steps, if you missed me talk about them before.


STEP 1: Give the vaccine to the 50 to 60% of people who are terrified of the virus and would do anything to get it.

STEP 2: Give the vaccine to the 15 to 20% of people who are just so f-ing tired of how we've been forced to live the last year that they just want it to go away and will get vaccinated so they can get back to their old lives.

(Steps one and two will have quite a bit of overlap, both in the timeframe and/or like-mindedness.)

STEP 3: Guilt the shit of the remaining people. Not all of them will be guilted into it. But some of them will.

STEP 4: Ruin the lives of people who still refuse. This can be done, and will be done, in a variety of ways. (This can only begin once there is a legitimate surplus of vaccinations without any remaining demand for them).

One of the biggest will be by allowing corporations to force vaccinations otherwise face termination from your job (the article from South Carolina I posted earlier today is actually about a bill being considered in the state to PROHIBIT companies in the state from doing this).

But then there's just the general guilting that will never end until the media stops talking about it. If you haven't been paying attention to the way these things work online the last few years, that guilting will quickly turn to HATE. This is going to make for a very hostile work environment for many people at this point. Imagine the RWED, but in a live office setting... in every workplace around the country. (and with weak-minded, terrified people truly believing that somebody like me is threatening their life by my mere presence in front of them without having had the shots).

If they really want to make the issue bad, they'll start instituting an ID card... maybe even provide you with a handy little lanyard to wear it like a dog collar whenever you leave your home.

Worst case is that when enough people have already gotten it and the rest refuse that the Legacy Media starts referring to those who resist vaccination as Bio Terrorists.



I've pretty much been spot on for the first three steps.

Admittedly, I didn't see handing out a bunch of freebies and doing Lotteries to try to entice people before moving on to Step 4 though.

But we are clearly in Step 3.5 right now, and just as I predicted they're throwing away TONS of vaccines since nobody else wants one.

Is New Zealand is racing to prove me right on the predictions past Step 4 already?



Anybody else going to join the race?



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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Saturday, July 10, 2021 8:18 PM

I saw what New Zealand is doing now in a Twilight Zone episode.

You don't miss your appointment to get your Egg.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Saturday, July 10, 2021 11:39 PM

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People Who Recover From COVID-19 At "Very Low Risk" Of Re-Infection: Study
Saturday, Jul 10, 2021 - 11:32 AM

Authored by Zachary Stieber via The Epoch Times,

People who have contracted COVID-19 and recovered should know that the risk for re-infection is very low, a doctor said after a study he worked on was published.

Researchers analyzed records from Curative, a clinical laboratory based in San Dimas that specializes in COVID-19 testing and has during the pandemic been conducting routine workforce screening. None of the 254 employees who had COVID-19 and recovered became re-infected, while four of the 739 who were fully vaccinated contracted the disease.

“The big takeaway was that if you are not vaccinated, and were not previously infected, one, you have a very high risk getting infected—24 percent of employees over a year tested positive. However, on the flip side, if you were vaccinated or previously infected your risk was near zero,” Dr. Jeffrey Klausner, clinical professor of preventive medicine and medicine at the University of Southern California’s Keck School of Medicine, told The Epoch Times.

Klausner and Dr. Noah Kojima of the University of California, Los Angeles’ Department of Medicine joined with Curative workers to analyze the records. They released a pre-print, or pre-peer reviewed version of the study online this week.

Researchers found that of the 4,313 employees who were not previously infected or fully vaccinated, 254 became infected.

The findings add to the growing body of research that indicates people who had COVID-19 and recovered enjoy a similar level of protection as those who have gotten a vaccine, following a study in the United Kingdom and one by Cleveland Clinic researchers.

“It should give confidence to people who have recovered that they are at very low risk for repeat infection and some experts including myself believe that protection is equal to vaccination,” Klausner told The Epoch Times.

“And we’re trying to update policy such that people who have recovered have the same privileges and access as people who are vaccinated.”

According to federal guidance, vaccines should be administered to people irrespective of whether they’ve had COVID-19 in the past.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has said officials are aware of evidence suggesting natural immunity among those who have been infected but has not altered its recommendations to incorporate that evidence.

“We do not comment on non-CDC authored papers. We continually evaluate the science that leads to our guidance, and if it needs to be changed, we will be base that on our own research and studies,” a spokesman told The Epoch Times in an email last month.

A transmission electron micrograph shows SARS-CoV-2 virus particles, isolated from a patient. (NIAID)

The limitations of the new study, which has been submitted to a journal and is being peer reviewed, include the possibility employees could have tested positive for COVID-19 outside of the routine screening, or employee testing program.

The group plans to conduct more analysis on the Curative data.

Dr. David Boulware, professor of medicine at the University of Minnesota, told The Epoch Times via email that the study “adds to the body of literature that generally healthy adults <65 years old with prior COVID-19 infection are generally not at risk of recurrent SARS-CoV-2 infection in short term after initial symptomatic infection.”

SARS-CoV-2 is another name for the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, which causes COVID-19.

Boulware, who was not involved in the research, noted that the median age of those tested was 29 years old and very likely included few people 65 years old or older, or many people without immune system problems.

“Thus, this may not apply to elderly persons or persons with substantial co-morbidities—but does likely apply to adults 18-65 years of age without major medical problems,” he said, adding that because the follow-up time period of those studied

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 4:19 AM

That's funny.

The entire year leading up to the vaccine they were telling everybody the exact opposite of that article, Sigs.

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 6:07 AM

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So for the vaccines, there are more options worldwide. In the States, the options are currently restricted to the genetic ones. Many people are uncomfortable with those for various reasons, and might be more comfortable with the Novavax product. I have no financial ties to Novavax, just to mention any potential conflict of interest. I’m just expressing what I perceive to be the vaccine landscape....

I’m going to stick my neck out, but I’m in close contact with Andrew Hill, who’s doing the meta-analysis, and the work of Tess Lawrie, who’s now published another meta-analysis from worldwide Ivermectin data—and the data keeps getting stronger and stronger in favor of ivermectin as having some protective activity within a safe dosing range. That seems to be impacting on various emerging economies that don’t have access to vaccines and is impacting on the event rate for severe COVID disease and death.



https://www.theepochtimes.com/dr-robert-malone-mrna-vaccine-inventor-o
n-the-bioethics-of-experimental-vaccines-and-the-ultimate-gaslighting_3889805.html



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Sunday, July 11, 2021 7:20 PM


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

People Who Recover From COVID-19 At "Very Low Risk" Of Re-Infection: Study
Saturday, Jul 10, 2021 - 11:32 AM

Authored by Zachary Stieber via The Epoch Times,

People who have contracted COVID-19 and recovered should know that the risk for re-infection is very low, a doctor said after a study he worked on was published.

Researchers analyzed records from Curative, a clinical laboratory based in San Dimas ...

San Dimas is a stealth high-tech bio/ med area.
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... that specializes in COVID-19 testing and has during the pandemic been conducting routine workforce screening. None of the 254 employees who had COVID-19 and recovered became re-infected, while four of the 739 who were fully vaccinated contracted the disease.

“The big takeaway was that if you are not vaccinated, and were not previously infected, one, you have a very high risk getting infected—24 percent of employees over a year tested positive.

That strikes me as being a very high overall population infection rate. Most of these people were probably infected elsewhere - where they live - not where they work. Overall, San Dimas looks like it has a really high cooperation rate when it comes to public masking, and a very low endogenous infection rate.
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However, on the flip side, if you were vaccinated or previously infected your risk was near zero,” Dr. Jeffrey Klausner, clinical professor of preventive medicine and medicine at the University of Southern California’s Keck School of Medicine, told The Epoch Times.
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The findings add to the growing body of research that indicates people who had COVID-19 and recovered enjoy a similar level of protection as those who have gotten a vaccine, following a study in the United Kingdom and one by Cleveland Clinic researchers.
But people who suffer from long-COVID-19 do seem to benefit from vaccination.
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According to federal guidance, vaccines should be administered to people irrespective of whether they’ve had COVID-19 in the past.
If I had long-COVID-19 I'd get vaccinated to try and get some benefit.
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Dr. David Boulware, professor of medicine at the University of Minnesota, told The Epoch Times via email that the study “adds to the body of literature that generally healthy adults <65 years old with prior COVID-19 infection are generally not at risk of recurrent SARS-CoV-2 infection in short term after initial symptomatic infection.”
There are a lot of built-in caveats: 1) Vaccination provides deep-body immune protection - it's always been recognized that more-external surfaces like nasal passages and upper airways have a separate immune system that doesn't get invoked by vaccination. That's why initial vax effectiveness endpoints were hospitalizations and deaths, like from pneumonia, which is a deep-body problem; and not infections which is a more external mucosal problem. 2) It's unknown how long-term protection from either infection or vax lasts. What IS known is that antibody levels drop off quickly. Other parts of the immune system may be primed, active, and protective, but that still needs to be figured out. 3) Variants didn't play a big role for most of the study period. 4) MOST Americans - even young ones - suffer from co-morbidities, especially weight issues.
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“Thus, this may not apply to elderly persons or persons with substantial co-morbidities—but does likely apply to adults 18-65 years of age without major medical problems,” he said, adding that because the follow-up time period of those studied was relatively short, the paper does not give insight into longer-term protection.
Another shortcoming of the study is that it didn't address long COVID-19, which affects even young people, and people without serious infection. While previous infection may be protective, it may not be so benign.
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“We need to continue to promote workplace vaccination requirements. Businesses have the authority and have the ability and have the legal po

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 7:24 PM


Just fyi, Signy:

L.A. County has more than 1,000 new coronavirus cases in a day, highest in months
https://news.yahoo.com/l-county-more-1-000-160443104.html

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 7:25 PM


You know, there was a study that indicated being vaccinated with 2 different vaccines for your first and second shots offered superior protection from COVID-19. I wish 'they' would allow for cross-vaccination.

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 7:32 PM

Not doing anything gives you somewhere around a 99% survival chance.

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Monday, July 19, 2021 5:45 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

You know, there was a study that indicated being vaccinated with 2 different vaccines for your first and second shots offered superior protection from COVID-19. I wish 'they' would allow for cross-vaccination.



That makes sense, because each vaccine-maker hose prolly chosen different snippets of spike protein, so two different vaccines will offer your immune system a panoply to choose from.

I heard - but can't find a link anywhere- that natural infection offers superior protection. I can imagine that being true, since you would have been exposed to the ENTIRE spike protein, plus others! So if one area gets mutated, you still have an immune response to others. I also read that the Sputnik V uses the ENTIRE spike protein, but haven't been able to confirm that bc I found that ona "deadly vaccines" website, so I don't trust the site's credibilty.

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