new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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They're not.
Almost a year and a half and I still no nobody who knows anybody who's even been one of the lies.
The 103 year old lady who went to my Dad's church and wasn't able to see her kids when she died doesn't count.
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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.
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Does she not count because she's not 'people', or because she didn't 'die'?
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She doesn't count because she was 103.
But now her family will always remember that they were forced to let her die alone.
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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.
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Nobody dies of old age, Jack.
What did she die of, btw? Hit by a bus? Struck by lightning? If not by COVID-19, what was it?
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Quote:I posted this a few times before, SIX, but it musta bounced off your skull: I PERSONALLY KNOW two people who died of Covid-19. One whose systems were frail... but it was Covid-19 who pushed her over the edge. Another who was fairly robust, who worked as a home health aide, and Covid-19 DEFINITELY shortened her lifespan by about 20 years!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Almost a year and a half and I still no nobody who knows anybody who's even been one of the lies.
Get a clue, SIX. Just because the pandemic was weaponized doesn't mean it isn't real.
Here's an analogy you might understand: The issue of overpopulation can also be weaponized, but it is ALSO real.
Or stay as deep in denial as you are. People who only hear what they want to hear... and there's a whole host of them here, including you, SIX .... well, mere facts will never change your minds.
Just please, stop repeating this non-fact:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Almost a year and a half and I still no nobody who knows anybody who's even been one of the lies.
I get tired of repeating what I've already posted a few times already.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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KIKI, I get tired or arguing with denialists about this, so going to change the pov here to a more forward-looking one.
All of these variants ... yes, the vaccines significantly reduce hospitalizations and deaths from the newer strains, but unless they manage to significantly reduce NEW CASES then all they will do is create evolutionary pressure towards the creation of super-strains of Covid-19: ones which are even more infectious and even more resistant to herd immunity, either by vaccination or infection.
As you mentioned before, since there isn't a significant non-human host for Covid-19 (Cats, apparently, can catch it from time to time. Dogs, rarely. Ferrets and mink ... but not that much human exposure to either. Bats?) we COULD wipe it out, stop it in its tracks, if most people in the world were innoculated pretty much at the sametime against the prevailing strain(s).
But until then, this is like the "overuse of antibiotics" problem, on a global scale, with something a lot more infectious than S Aureus or tuberculosis. I wonder if pharma is working in a new version now that the technology has been developed. Or maybe they're waiting to see whether a truly resistant strain emerges, and work on the snippets of spike proteins from THAT version.
I guess what I'm wondering is ... will we be chasing this thing around the globe five or six times? Moscow's vaccination program has been chnaged from voluntary to mandatory with an uptick of cases. I suspect by this winter cases will jump again as people spend more time together indoors, and we will be revisiting the whole vaccination/masking issue again.
I hope I'm wrong.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Yeah, I agree.
As I too have posted a few times already - if we don't get rid of this everywhere, we won't get rid of it anywhere.
There's an interesting theory about commonality v lethality. Over time a disease can't be both common and lethal. If it is it'll kill off all of its hosts and then it too will die. Of course the transition to a stable situation could be a rough one, until pathogen (and host, but mostly the pathogen, because it evolves so much more quickly) stumble around genetically before they find the right combination that allows both to survive.
Anyway, overall it's the stewing of large numbers of pathogens in large numbers of people that provides the living (group) bioreactor, that gives the pathogen enough time and space to evolve variants. It's the evolutionary pressure of both the host's own defenses, as well as treatments and vaccines, that selects for resistant strains.
So yes, as you mentioned, antibiotics select for resistant strains.
And as you guessed, vaccines could do the same thing. And there's a real-world example of vaccinations selecting for different resistant strains. Prevnar-7 is a vaccine that protects against pneumonia caused by 7 different Streptococcus pneumoniae strains, which in this case is a bacteria. However, it's caused those strains to become more rare as a cause of pneumonia in populations with the vaccine, and other strep strains to become relatively abundant.
Like SARS-CoV-2, S. pneumoniae is an obligate human pathogen - in other words, there is no known external reservoir (though animals can be experimentally infected for research purposes). But unlike SARS-CoV-2 it has a widespread human reservoir, at all times up to ~10% of adult humans, and up to 60% of children under 2, are asymptomatic S. pneumoniae carriers. (To distinguish this from SARS-CoV-2 I want to point out that it's not true that at all times up to ~10% of humans are asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers.) And also unlike SARS-CoV-2, S. pneumoniae has literally thousands of already existing strains, all intermixing genetically to produce even more strains.
So, when the original 7-valent vaccine came out, it knocked out a whole set of genes from the existing genome and dropped serious infections ... which were then rapidly infilled from other non-target strains. Now there's a Prevnar-13 vaccine, and one with 23 bacterial strains.
The question is I think - is SARS-CoV-2 more like S. pneumoniae, or more like smallpox?
If I had to guess, I'd say at present it's a lot more like smallpox. BUT - imo that changes as more time goes by. So I think there's a window to address it globally, and wipe it off the face of the planet.
If global COVID-19 vaccination goes like - say, efforts to reduce CO2 emissions, or denuclearization, or addressing deforestation - then the outcome is an escalating spread of SARS-CoV-2.
But if it goes like the effort to eliminate smallpox, for example, then we could also eliminate it off the planet.
ETA: California is already recommending all persons mask indoors.
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Quote:Covid-20 is already being rolled out, but in CA only. It is needed for the Recall Election of Gavin Newsum.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:It's already here..
1KIKI:
L.A. County urges everyone to wear mask indoors as Delta variant spreads
... in public indoor spaces — regardless of whether they’ve been vaccinated for COVID-19. “Until we better understand how and to who the Delta variant is spreading, everyone should focus on maximum protection with minimum interruption to routine as all businesses operate without other restrictions, like physical distancing and capacity limits ... (though) fully vaccinated people appear to be well protected from infections with Delta variants ... preventing hospitalizations and deaths ...”
https://todaynewspost.com/news/us-news/l-a-county-urges-everyone-to-we
ar-mask-indoors-as-delta-variant-spreads/
SIX: Covid-20 is coming...
The new and existing Election Laws still permit that one state can have a Lockdown-worthy beer bug.
The next pertinent versions allocated in the Election Laws are supposed to wait to be timed for the 2022 and 2024 Elections Lockdowns.
I have not paid attention to the schedule calendar for the Recall, but as soon as those Election dates are specified, that should tell us the dates the Lockdown should take effect.
If Fredo Gump was being recalled in NY, then NY could have this Covid-20 also, in time for Lockdown Election theft.
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I posted this a few times before, SIX, but it musta bounced off your skull: I PERSONALLY KNOW two people who died of Covid-19. One whose systems were frail... but it was Covid-19 who pushed her over the edge. Another who was fairly robust, who worked as a home health aide, and Covid-19 DEFINITELY shortened her lifespan by about 20 years!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Almost a year and a half and I still no nobody who knows anybody who's even been one of the lies.
Get a clue, SIX. Just because the pandemic was weaponized doesn't mean it isn't real.
Here's an analogy you might understand: The issue of overpopulation can also be weaponized, but it is ALSO real.
Or stay as deep in denial as you are. People who only hear what they want to hear... and there's a whole host of them here, including you, SIX .... well, mere facts will never change your minds.
Just please, stop repeating this non-fact:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Almost a year and a half and I still no nobody who knows anybody who's even been one of the lies.
I get tired of repeating what I've already posted a few times already.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
I'm not denying that people died in 2020.
They just didn't die of Covid-19.
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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.
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Not even 50% of Indiana residents are vaccinated.
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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.
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