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HR 1: Election Reform Bill

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Monday, June 14, 2021 5:32 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
HR 1 is DEAD.

Even lefty shill "news" outfits are finally reporting the truth about that.

Maybe the bot needs something to distract from those 120 Illegal Aliens he has stuffed in his house.

You've been hearing those news reports about houses in the Houston area?

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Monday, June 14, 2021 8:13 AM

Trust me. They're not hiding in HIS house.

He's a fan of the IDEA, but he doesn't practice it.

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Monday, June 14, 2021 9:23 AM

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No one should miss this Mark Meadows story. No one.

In the final days of President Donald Trump’s time in office, his chief of staff sent five emails to the acting attorney general designed to pressure the nation’s top cop to investigate a series of ridiculous claims of election fraud in the 2020 election – among them that Italy had deployed technology that somehow switched votes from Trump to Joe Biden.

No, that sentence above isn’t parody although it reads like it. It is fact – first reported by The New York Times on Saturday and then confirmed by CNN. That actually happened. In the United States of America. In 2021 (and in late 2020).

What’s stunning to me is that this isn’t a bigger story.

Consider, again, what we are talking about: The top aide to the President of the United States tried to get the head of the Department of Justice to launch investigations into appallingly ridiculous election fraud claims solely because the aforementioned President couldn’t (and can’t) accept that he lost the 2020 election.

That these efforts came in the run-up to the violent insurrection at the US Capitol on January 6, which left more than 100 police officers injured and five people dead, make them all the more appalling. As Trump was publicly fomenting doubt in the election results – via a series of failed lawsuits and debunked conspiracy theories – his chief of staff was working privately to cajole the nation’s chief law enforcement official to resuscitate these fallacies in order to please Trump.

Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, got it right when he said Meadows’ pressure campaign “underscores the depths of the White House’s efforts to co-opt the department and influence the electoral vote certification. This is a five alarm fire for our democracy.”

Yes, it is!

www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/politics/mark-meadows-trump-doj-italygate/index
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Anyone who refers to Jan 6as a "violence insurrection" discredits anything else they say.

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Monday, June 14, 2021 7:00 PM

Yup.

And Dick Durbin is a plague on the citizens of Illinois.

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Tuesday, June 15, 2021 3:46 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trust me. They're not hiding in HIS house.

He's a fan of the IDEA, but he doesn't practice it.

You mean he employs the people who own those houses?

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Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:11 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trust me. They're not hiding in HIS house.

He's a fan of the IDEA, but he doesn't practice it.

You mean he employs the people who own those houses?



He wish he could, but even if he could he wouldn't.

He's the type of person who would virtue signal all day long about illegal aliens having a right to live here, but if he wasn't actually dirt poor and had a 30 bedroom mansion off of the hundreds of millions in tax breaks he got under Trump, not a single one of those bedrooms would be made available for a family of illegal aliens.

He just wants to tell you where your taxes should go.

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Tuesday, June 15, 2021 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Anyone who refers to Jan 6 as a "violence insurrection" discredits anything else they say.

The woman who was shot and killed inside the US Capitol during the protests was from the San Diego area. KUSI News has spoken with her husband. The woman is Ashli Babbitt, a 14-year veteran, who served four tours with the US Air Force, and was a high level security official throughout her time in service.

Her husband says she was a strong supporter of President Trump, and was a great patriot to all who knew her.
www.kusi.com/kusi-news-confirms-identity-of-woman-shot-and-killed-insi
de-us-capitol
/

The day before she was killed, Babbitt tweeted, “Nothing will stop us. they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours...dark to light.”
https://cbs12.com/news/nation-world/woman-killed-at-us-capitol-was-air
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:01 PM

This thread is about the failed HR 1 bill, Trumptard.

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Wednesday, June 16, 2021 2:56 AM

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This thread is about the failed HR 1 bill, Trumptard.

I was thinking bot mentioned Taxes at least once in this thread. Or Tax Returns. Like Trump Taxes or Trump Tax Returns. Are you sure this thread isn't about those tangential facets? Was Trump in the White House when HR1 was sponsored?

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Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:15 AM

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Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:48 AM

Pennsylvania Republicans Introduce Sweeping Election Reform Bill
By Allen Zhong
June 12, 2021 Updated: June 13, 2021
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Pennsylvania Republicans proposed an overhaul of the state’s election system on Thursday with stricter voter identification requirements and mail ballot signature verification.

State Rep. Seth Grove—the chair of the House State Government Committee who acts as House Republicans’ point person for election legislation—introduced the Voting Rights Protection Act, House Bill 1300, after months of hearings by the House State Government Committee.

The legislation aims at transforming and improving Pennsylvania’s election process to restore the integrity of and trust in elections, according to a statement from Grove’s office.

The bill seems to embrace ideas from both the Republican and Democrat side and proposes comprehensive measures to change the rules for election including:

Allowing early in-person voting beginning in 2025.
Allowing unsigned or undated ballots to be corrected before 8:00 p.m. on Election Day.
Giving counties the option to use secure mail-in ballot drop boxes during specific times at secure locations.
Allowing mail-in ballots to be counted five days before an election. Current law allows the count to begin no earlier than 7:00 a.m. on Election Day.
Requiring every voter to present a photo ID at the polls.
Requiring signature verification for mail ballots.
Eliminating the permanent mail-in voting list.
Establishing a Bureau of Election Audits under the state Auditor General’s office. The newly-established bureau will have subpoena power and will regularly conduct election audits.

Most of the proposed rules in House Bill 1300 are based on a report published by the State House Government Committee back on May 10.

The report (pdf)—titled “A Comprehensive Review of Pennsylvania’s Election Laws: How Pennsylvania Can Guarantee Rights and Integrity in Our Election System”—identifies 25 aspects of the election process that needs improvements.

The bill is intended to fix the issues listed in the report. “This responsible bill includes all aspects of issues brought before the committee and will propel Pennsylvania’s election into the 21st century, all while fixing fatal flaws and election security issues,” Grove said.

Pennsylvania House Speaker Bryan Cutler, a Republican, is supportive of the bill.

“House Republicans have consistently paved the way to more accessible, secure[,] and accurate elections,” he said. “Our caucus ensured the state tracked the impacts of our evolving election law in 2019 and 2020, and today we see those efforts brought to fruition in this important and thorough legislation by Chairman Grove. Pennsylvanians must have faith in their elections and this bill is another piece of restoring the public’s trust.”

The proposed bill will likely be blocked by Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, though Republicans control both the House and Senate in the state legislature.

Wolf suggested earlier the week that he will veto any election bill from the Republican side.

“I will stand up for our freedom to vote. I will not allow bad actors to put up barriers to voting in Pennsylvania,” he said. “Not only will I veto any legislative efforts to roll back the freedoms Pennsylvanians right now have, I will continue to push for changes that expand our access to the polls.”

The Republicans may not have enough votes to override Wolf’s likely veto.

House Minority Leader Rep. Joanna E. McClinton told KDKA-TV that some parts of the bill may get bipartisan support but she denounced the idea of Bureau of Election Audits.

“We do not need a Bureau of Election Audits. One of the things I’m waiting for my colleagues across the aisle to do is end the big lie, which reeked so much terror and havoc and a deadly attack on our United States Capitol,” she said.

She also criticized that the Republicans cut off Democrats during the legislative process, saying the bill will reach an impasse at the executive

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Wednesday, June 16, 2021 11:33 AM

It's a bullshit bill anyways.

Mail-in ballots are fraud.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2021 1:16 AM

6ix, maybe you can post a linky.

I just heard a clip on the Dan Bongino Radio Show. It might have been him actually doing the interviews on the street. In NYC, black adults were asked some questions. Reminded that liberals say black folk don't have ID, they were asked if they had ID. Reminded that liberals say black folk cannot find, locate, or get to a DMV, they were asked if they know where the DMV is or how to get there. Reminded that liberals say black folk cannot navigate the internet, the4y were asked if they knew how to access the internet.


Pretty good stuff.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2021 1:25 AM


GOP ready to block elections bill in Senate showdown
https://apnews.com/article/gop-elections-bill-senate-showdown-0cd91c55
9b314a695c08ff9e4abd5d8a


no matter what Biden* says

In Senate vote, Biden sees ‘step forward’ for elections bill
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-joe-biden-senate-elections-bil
ls-election-2020-1a9b201f9234e2050496768be995ea2f

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Wednesday, June 23, 2021 9:09 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
6ix, maybe you can post a linky.

I just heard a clip on the Dan Bongino Radio Show. It might have been him actually doing the interviews on the street. In NYC, black adults were asked some questions. Reminded that liberals say black folk don't have ID, they were asked if they had ID. Reminded that liberals say black folk cannot find, locate, or get to a DMV, they were asked if they know where the DMV is or how to get there. Reminded that liberals say black folk cannot navigate the internet, the4y were asked if they knew how to access the internet.


Pretty good stuff.



Didn't find it, but I found this one...





Brainwashed college "educated" white kids.

RACIST AS FUCK.

If I were black, THESE are the white people I'd have a problem with.

They don't have any problem when I work with them.



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Wednesday, June 23, 2021 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
6ix, maybe you can post a linky.

I just heard a clip on the Dan Bongino Radio Show. It might have been him actually doing the interviews on the street. In NYC, black adults were asked some questions. Reminded that liberals say black folk don't have ID, they were asked if they had ID. Reminded that liberals say black folk cannot find, locate, or get to a DMV, they were asked if they know where the DMV is or how to get there. Reminded that liberals say black folk cannot navigate the internet, the4y were asked if they knew how to access the internet.

Pretty good stuff.

Didn't find it, but I found this one...



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Brainwashed college "educated" white kids.

RACIST AS FUCK.

If I were black, THESE are the white people I'd have a problem with.

They don't have any problem when I work with them.

That is EXACTLY the correct video.
I kept hearing clips of the black folks in East Harlem, but I did not hear any clips of the racist Libtards in Berzerkely. Whenever they said Ami's name, I couldn't conjure how to transcribe that sound into leters of a name. And when Ami speaks his voice, cadence, and inflection sound a LOT like Dan Bongino.
So I didn't have all the details, but you did an excellent job of finding that one.

Further proof that Berzerkely creates extremely racist Libtards.

That video is genius.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2021 6:47 PM

It's a perfect video. It's only a shame that it's got FOX branding on it.

We could end all this voting ID law bullshit tomorrow in a world where CNN wasn't total shit and they ran it.

But since it's on FOX News, half the country will never see it, and all those racist white college kids will just keep on being ignorant of facts.

So fucking condescending.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 3:06 AM

Mitch McConnell Lays Down Radical Marker on Voting Rights: “This Is Not a Federal Issue”

“It oughta be left to the states,” McConnell said of voting rights protection. “There’s no point in having … a debate in the U.S. Senate about something we ought not to do.”

In 1890, responding to a wave of violent suppression of Black voters in the South, Rep. Henry Cabot Lodge, a Northeastern Republican, pushed through a bill to ban poll taxes and give the federal government the power to enforce the 15th Amendment, which allowed all men regardless of race the right to vote. That amendment had been run through Congress on a party-line vote.

The Lodge bill passed the House by six votes, again along party lines, and it headed to the Senate, where it was filibustered for months by Democrats. Despite having majority backing, supporters couldn’t bring it to a final vote, and it was finally taken off the floor in January 1891. With the threat of federal intervention removed, the terror campaign of lynchings and mob violence accelerated. The multiracial populist movement collapsed, as white populists turned on their erstwhile Black populist allies. Deprived of political power and beset on all sides by violence, as many as 6 million Black residents of the South eventually decamped for the North.

There would be no further federal intervention in voting rights for 67 years, until passage of the 1957 Civil Rights Act, culminating in the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Since 1965, the idea that the federal government has a role to play in protecting the right to vote has been a universally held opinion among elected officials.
In 2006, the Voting Rights Act was reauthorized by Congress and passed the Senate by a vote of 98-0. It included a provision that required states with a history of discrimination in voting laws to preclear any new election laws with the Justice Department. In 2013, in a 5-4 Supreme Court decision, Chief Justice John Roberts struck the preclearance provision down, arguing that the South had changed and that it was no longer necessary.

Southern states began immediately to amend their voting laws, with court documents showing the explicit purpose being to minimize the power of the Black vote in an effort to boost Republican candidates.

On Tuesday, the Senate moved to take up debate on S. 1, the “For the People Act.” The parties having switched sides on the question of voting rights, S. 1 represents the Democratic response to recent voter suppression laws.

This time, 130 years after the Lodge bill, it would be Republicans who filibustered. In explaining the party’s position, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who voted to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act as recently as 2006, declared that the federal government ought to have no role in elections, a view that would have been at home between 1890 and 1965, but is strikingly radical in a post-civil rights era.

“This is not a federal issue. It oughta be left to the states. There’s nothing broken around the country,” McConnell said at his weekly press conference when asked why Republicans were blocking a voting rights bill from being debated on the Senate floor. “The system upheld very well during intense stress in the latter part of the previous Congress. There’s no rational basis for federalizing this election. Therefore, there’s no point in having an election — a debate in the U.S. Senate about something we ought not to do.”

McConnell was asked what he made of states such as Arizona, which is engaged in a lengthy “audit” of the presidential vote, with state Republicans hoping to overturn the results.

“I’m OK with the states sorting this sort of stuff out,” McConnell said. “The most important election in the country is the presidential election. It’s not decided in Congress, it’s decided in the Electoral College; those are state-by-state decisions, and so regardless of what may be happening in some state, there’s no rationale for federal intervention. They’ll figure it all out, they’ll go to court, they’ll determine whether or not there’s any r

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:22 AM


H.R.1 thankfully looks like it's dead.

So let's ^^^ stop harping about it, OK?


Do we need voter ID? I think we do - along with intensive outreach and help to make sure every eligible citizen can easily get one, for free, without a multitude of physical and bureaucratic barriers. And I think that voter ID needs to be able to be quickly and easily voided and replaced when people permanently move to a new location. I also believe it needs national federal standards for who is allowed to vote in federal elections instead of the hodgepodge of exceptions and limitations across the country. If being allowed to vote in federal elections is a national Constitutional right, then it needs to be administered nationally, according to the Constitution as it currently stands.

But it needs so much more!

Well, I was going to go on some more, but I looked at the clock. If this bubbles back up to the top when I'm here next, I'll get to it later. Otherwise, I'll probably lose track.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 7:23 AM

There are a number of voting reforms quietly making their way through the various state legislatures. I posted about Pennsylvania's in this thread,and this is what they propose;


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Allowing early in-person voting beginning in 2025.
Allowing unsigned or undated ballots to be corrected before 8:00 p.m. on Election Day.
Giving counties the option to use secure mail-in ballot drop boxes during specific times at secure locations.
Allowing mail-in ballots to be counted five days before an election. Current law allows the count to begin no earlier than 7:00 a.m. on Election Day.
Requiring every voter to present a photo ID at the polls.
Requiring signature verification for mail ballots.
Eliminating the permanent mail-in voting list.
Establishing a Bureau of Election Audits under the state Auditor General’s office. The newly-established bureau will have subpoena power and will regularly conduct election audits.



First of all, I'm aghast that they DIDN'T require signature verification with mail-in ballots! I mean ... WTF???

And establishing a "permanent" mail-in voting list??? What about when people move? Or die?

And not having the mechanism and authority to audit elections, and therefore allowing elections to be un-auditable??? What the hell were they thinking?

NO WONDER the PA vote was such a clusterfuck!

But aside from that. my impression of their "reforms" is that the security and identification requirements around in-person voting are .STILL. stricter than around mail-in voting. If you're going to do mail-in voting, it should be just as secure and tight as in-person voting. Since in-person voting will reqire a picture ID (which is more certain than signature verification) and will have locked ballot boxes and therefore better Chain of Custody (as opposed to mailboxes and all of the handling that mail requires) mail-in vote security should be upgraded to be equivalent to in-person voting.

Anyway, the reforms all seem to be heading in the direction of more/better voter ID.



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Thursday, June 24, 2021 7:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There are a number of voting reforms quietly making their way through the various state legislatures. I posted about Pennsylvania's in this thread,and this is what they propose;


Quote:

Allowing early in-person voting beginning in 2025.
Allowing unsigned or undated ballots to be corrected before 8:00 p.m. on Election Day.
Giving counties the option to use secure mail-in ballot drop boxes during specific times at secure locations.
Allowing mail-in ballots to be counted five days before an election. Current law allows the count to begin no earlier than 7:00 a.m. on Election Day.
Requiring every voter to present a photo ID at the polls.
Requiring signature verification for mail ballots.
Eliminating the permanent mail-in voting list.
Establishing a Bureau of Election Audits under the state Auditor General’s office. The newly-established bureau will have subpoena power and will regularly conduct election audits.



First of all, I'm aghast that they DIDN'T require signature verification with mail-in ballots! I mean ... WTF???

And establishing a "permanent" mail-in voting list??? What about when people move? Or die?

And not having the mechanism and authority to audit elections, and therefore allowing elections to be un-auditable??? What the hell were they thinking?

NO WONDER the PA vote was such a clusterfuck!

But aside from that. my impression of their "reforms" is that the security and identification requirements around in-person voting are .STILL. stricter than around mail-in voting. If you're going to do mail-in voting, it should be just as secure and tight as in-person voting. Since in-person voting will reqire a picture ID (which is more certain than signature verification) and will have locked ballot boxes and therefore better Chain of Custody (as opposed to mailboxes and all of the handling that mail requires) mail-in vote security should be upgraded to be equivalent to in-person voting.

Anyway, the reforms all seem to be heading in the direction of more/better voter ID.

yah, you're going to need to hand in your liberal card for saying Jim Crow statements like that.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 7:32 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's a perfect video. It's only a shame that it's got FOX branding on it.

We could end all this voting ID law bullshit tomorrow in a world where CNN wasn't total shit and they ran it.

But since it's on FOX News, half the country will never see it, and all those racist white college kids will just keep on being ignorant of facts.

So fucking condescending.

Have you not seen the ratings which show Fox has more viewers than all their competitors combined? Just because you are allergic to news does not mean everybody is.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 9:23 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's a perfect video. It's only a shame that it's got FOX branding on it.

We could end all this voting ID law bullshit tomorrow in a world where CNN wasn't total shit and they ran it.

But since it's on FOX News, half the country will never see it, and all those racist white college kids will just keep on being ignorant of facts.

So fucking condescending.

Have you not seen the ratings which show Fox has more viewers than all their competitors combined? Just because you are allergic to news does not mean everybody is.



When I get my news, I get it from independent content creators.

I also check RealClearPolitics daily, and then I do my own research on things that interest me.

I'm the only one here that ever does any deep dives into polling methodology and SEC records. I'm sure as fuck the only one here that would have ever been able to find the exact court date and time for the recent court case against the governor of Indiana.

Take your Fox News jerk off party and go try to impress somebody stupid with it.

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Friday, June 25, 2021 3:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There are a number of voting reforms quietly making their way through the various state legislatures. I posted about Pennsylvania's in this thread,and this is what they propose;


Quote:

Allowing early in-person voting beginning in 2025.
Allowing unsigned or undated ballots to be corrected before 8:00 p.m. on Election Day.
Giving counties the option to use secure mail-in ballot drop boxes during specific times at secure locations.
Allowing mail-in ballots to be counted five days before an election. Current law allows the count to begin no earlier than 7:00 a.m. on Election Day.
Requiring every voter to present a photo ID at the polls.
Requiring signature verification for mail ballots.
Eliminating the permanent mail-in voting list.
Establishing a Bureau of Election Audits under the state Auditor General’s office. The newly-established bureau will have subpoena power and will regularly conduct election audits.



First of all, I'm aghast that they DIDN'T require signature verification with mail-in ballots! I mean ... WTF???

And establishing a "permanent" mail-in voting list??? What about when people move? Or die?

And not having the mechanism and authority to audit elections, and therefore allowing elections to be un-auditable??? What the hell were they thinking?

NO WONDER the PA vote was such a clusterfuck!

But aside from that. my impression of their "reforms" is that the security and identification requirements around in-person voting are .STILL. stricter than around mail-in voting. If you're going to do mail-in voting, it should be just as secure and tight as in-person voting. Since in-person voting will reqire a picture ID (which is more certain than signature verification) and will have locked ballot boxes and therefore better Chain of Custody (as opposed to mailboxes and all of the handling that mail requires) mail-in vote security should be upgraded to be equivalent to in-person voting.

Anyway, the reforms all seem to be heading in the direction of more/better voter ID.

I am still struck by your bafflement. Did you take a nap last year? I thought every thread we had on the Fake Election last year recounted this fact. This was one of the cases prior to the Election, as well.

A bit late to wake up, Rumple.

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Friday, June 25, 2021 5:46 AM

Not bafflement, JSF, shock.

The reason for these reforms is that PA just completed an audit of their voting system, and according to the audit the vote was all according to established procedure.

The audit DID mention several areas of concern, and lack of signature verification was one of them. That means that NOT CHECKING SIGNATURES IS ESTABLISHED PROCEDURE.

Well, first of all, I'm not exactly impressed with signature verification. BANKS are c supposed to do it with checks bc, hey, there's money involved. But we had THREE altered checks (stolen from the Post Office) go thru the bank. Nobody noticed the non- matching signatures!

But as loosey-goosey as signature verification is, they didn't even do that!

And how are they supposed to implement that, anyway? How's many ppl would it take to give EACH signed ballot a good going-over? After the first hour, the temptation would be to let EVERYTHING go thru bc to hold something back would just mean more work.

I sure hope there's software that can do this.



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Friday, June 25, 2021 9:54 AM

I have zero memory of anybody ever once matching my signature when I've used my credit card. My signature these days has degraded to the point that I might as well just sign my name with an X, and I've never had a problem cashing a check.

Over the last few years, nobody even asks me to sign anything when I use a credit card anymore. They don't even pay people to do it now.

Signatures don't mean shit anymore, and haven't for quite some time.


Photo ID and in-person voting or GTFO.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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Sunday, June 27, 2021 6:31 PM

Even Vox thinks the DOJ lawsuit against Georgia is doomed.

No shit, huh?



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Monday, June 28, 2021 4:57 AM

Former Attorney General William Barr, in a newly released book excerpt, resigned so that he won’t have to come back to the office after Christmas 2020 to deal with election “bullshit” from Trump. Trump is a man consumed with grievance against people he believes have betrayed him, but few betrayals have enraged him more than what his attorney general did to him. To Trump, the unkindest cut of all was when William Barr stepped forward and declared that there had been no widespread fraud in the 2020 election, just as the president was trying to overturn Joe Biden’s victory by claiming that the election had been stolen.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210627155205if_/https://www.theatlantic.
com/politics/archive/2021/06/william-barrs-trump-administration-attorney-general/619298
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Monday, June 28, 2021 5:31 AM

The election was stolen.

Mail-in fraud election was fraud.

That's okay. Trump will be your President again in 3.5 more years.

We'll survive this attempted coup.





P.S. Imagine how much bitching and moaning you would be doing if the shoe was on the other foot, huh. 6 months later and you can't get Trump's name off your tongue.

This is how adults behave, children.



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Monday, June 28, 2021 8:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The election was stolen.

Mail-in fraud election was fraud.

That's okay. Trump will be your President again in 3.5 more years.

We'll survive this attempted coup.





P.S. Imagine how much bitching and moaning you would be doing if the shoe was on the other foot, huh. 6 months later and you can't get Trump's name off your tongue.

This is how adults behave, children.



You were amused when you saw this firefly episode. Would you be amused if Trump got kicked into an engine because of his nonstop mouth? It could happen. I bet there is a 50/50 chance that he will be murdered if he runs again and he senses the danger, which is why he won't be running. An even more likely bet, he dies from overeating or a stroke because he is a fat lying sack of shit with a bad temper and crazy to boot.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, June 28, 2021 2:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The election was stolen.

Mail-in fraud election was fraud.

That's okay. Trump will be your President again in 3.5 more years.

We'll survive this attempted coup.





P.S. Imagine how much bitching and moaning you would be doing if the shoe was on the other foot, huh. 6 months later and you can't get Trump's name off your tongue.

This is how adults behave, children.



You were amused when you saw this firefly episode. Would you be amused if Trump got kicked into an engine because of his nonstop mouth? It could happen. I bet there is a 50/50 chance that he will be murdered if he runs again and he senses the danger, which is why he won't be running. An even more likely bet, he dies from overeating or a stroke because he is a fat lying sack of shit with a bad temper and crazy to boot.



We know you'd love that. You couldn't stop talking about murdering him yourself. We've got it archived for you if you'd like to see it.



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Monday, June 28, 2021 4:21 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

We know you'd love that. You couldn't stop talking about murdering him yourself. We've got it archived for you if you'd like to see it.

I'll give you a Trumptard story: I told him that he'll be divorced once his wife finds out about his adultery. He threatens me with, "She won't unless you tell her," shaking with anger. She found out on her own and ended him with a gun. You Trumptards don't listen to reality and that habit doesn't serve you well. Trump is the most hated President in history. He knows that as a fact as solid as he cheated on all his wives. He also knows that Presidents get assassinated. That's why he either won't run again or he hires a food taster because he doesn't want to be poisoned by restaurant workers. I would love to hear stories about Trump, after his second or third food taster dies, refusing to eat anything except what comes out of a can that he opens for himself and microwaves.

List of United States presidential assassination attempts and plots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assas
sination_attempts_and_plots


GOP tried to hide bad news about Trump’s popularity
www.cnn.com/2021/05/12/opinions/gop-making-trump-look-good-dantonio/in
dex.html


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Monday, June 28, 2021 7:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

We know you'd love that. You couldn't stop talking about murdering him yourself. We've got it archived for you if you'd like to see it.

I'll give you a Trumptard story: I told him that he'll be divorced once his wife finds out about his adultery. He threatens me with, "She won't unless you tell her," shaking with anger. She found out on her own and ended him with a gun. You Trumptards don't listen to reality and that habit doesn't serve you well. Trump is the most hated President in history. He knows that as a fact as solid as he cheated on all his wives. He also knows that Presidents get assassinated. That's why he either won't run again or he hires a food taster because he doesn't want to be poisoned by restaurant workers. I would love to hear stories about Trump, after his second or third food taster dies, refusing to eat anything except what comes out of a can that he opens for himself and microwaves.

List of United States presidential assassination attempts and plots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assas
sination_attempts_and_plots


GOP tried to hide bad news about Trump’s popularity
www.cnn.com/2021/05/12/opinions/gop-making-trump-look-good-dantonio/in
dex.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Somebody fix the Secondbot. It's acting all terroristy again.

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Friday, July 2, 2021 6:44 PM

Not HR1, but the Supreme Court just put Biden* in its place again.

CNN whines but nobody knows it because nobody pays attention to CNN anymore.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/opinions/arizona-voter-access-supreme-c
ourt-blow-douglas/index.html


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Voting rights plaintiffs had filed suit against two Arizona laws: one says that a vote will not count if a voter goes to the wrong precinct and then, finding their name not in the poll books, fills out a provisional ballot. The other limits who can collect and return completed ballots, also known to opponents as ballot harvesting. The plaintiffs argued that the laws violated Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, which prohibits voting rules that have the effect of making it harder for minority voters to cast a ballot that will count.


1. Don't go to the wrong precinct. It has never in the history of voting been easier to go online and find EXACTLY where you need to vote.

2. Contrary to popular white Liberal belief, yes... Black people do have internet connections. Everybody in America who wants the internet in 2021 has the internet in 2021 and has had it for many years.

3. Ballot harvesting should be considered one of the top ways to cheat by any rational person, and any Democrat arguing in favor of them should consider how poorly elections could turn out for them going forward if Republicans were to resign themselves to them as a new normal and end up better at cheating than the Democrats are.

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Friday, July 2, 2021 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Not HR1, but the Supreme Court just put Biden* in its place again.

1. Don't go to the wrong precinct. It has never in the history of voting been easier to go online and find EXACTLY where you need to vote.

2. Contrary to popular white Liberal belief, yes... Black people do have internet connections. Everybody in America who wants the internet in 2021 has the internet in 2021 and has had it for many years.

3. Ballot harvesting should be considered one of the top ways to cheat by any rational person, and any Democrat arguing in favor of them should consider how poorly elections could turn out for them going forward if Republicans were to resign themselves to them as a new normal and end up better at cheating than the Democrats are.

It was the Navajos of Arizona, not Biden, who got kicked in the balls by the Supreme Court:

Hardly anyone has a street address on the vast Navajo Nation. Tribal members are among rural residents who must draw a map in a small space on voter registration cards showing where they live, and it’s up to county officials to place them in the right precinct.

In the 2020 election, more than 2,000 voters in Apache County were placed on a list because of questions surrounding their residency, the Navajo Nation noted in court documents. Neither the state nor the county had online options for voters to determine their polling location without a street address, tribal attorneys wrote.

There’s no public transportation on the 27,000-square-mile (70,000-square-kilometer) Navajo Nation that’s bigger than 10 U.S. states. It stretches into Arizona, New Mexico and Utah. Many people rely on friends, family or strangers for rides.

Poor roads increase the difficulties of voting, the tribe said. More than four-fifths of the reservation’s roads are unpaved. During elections, many Navajos tell politicians they want better roads.

“Even just gravel, we’d be very grateful,” said Tovina Yazzie, manager of the Sweetwater Chapter on the Navajo Nation.

Yazzie tries to impress upon tribal members that voting could result in more funding to the small community near the Arizona-Utah border. She also recognizes the obstacles.

“We run into some people or community members who don’t have vehicles, so it is a hindrance for our community to come in and vote,” she said. “And also, the weather has a role in it, if it’s snowing or rainy or muddy.”

More at https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-voter-registration-voting-rights-
business-election-2020-152573041f97f690381cd2a323db586c


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Saturday, July 3, 2021 12:09 AM

Ed McBroom, a Republican Michigan state senator who chairs the Oversight Committee, released a report detailing his eight-month-long investigation into the legitimacy of the 2020 election:

https://misenategopcdn.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/99/doccuments/202106
23/SMPO_2020ElectionReport_2.pdf


The stakes could hardly have been higher. Against a backdrop of confusion and suspicion and frightening civic friction—with Trump claiming he’d been cheated out of victory, and anecdotes about fraud coursing through every corner of the state—McBroom had led an exhaustive probe of Michigan’s electoral integrity. His committee interviewed scores of witnesses, subpoenaed and reviewed thousands of pages of documents, dissected the procedural mechanics of Michigan’s highly decentralized elections system, and scrutinized the most trafficked claims about corruption at the state’s ballot box in November. McBroom’s conclusion hit Lansing like a meteor: It was all a bunch of nonsense.

“Our clear finding is that citizens should be confident the results represent the true results of the ballots cast by the people of Michigan,” McBroom wrote in the report. “There is no evidence presented at this time to prove either significant acts of fraud or that an organized, wide-scale effort to commit fraudulent activity was perpetrated in order to subvert the will of Michigan voters.”

For good measure, McBroom added: “The Committee strongly recommends citizens use a critical eye and ear toward those who have pushed demonstrably false theories for their own personal gain.”


This reflected a pattern throughout the report—a clear and clinical statement of facts, accompanied by more animated language that expressed disgust with the grifters selling deception to the masses and disappointment with the voters who were buying it. Sitting at his dinner table, I told the senator that his writing occasionally took a tone of anger. He smirked. “I don’t know that I ever wrote angry,” McBroom replied. “But I tried to leave no room for doubt.”

So much for that. Soon after the report was released, Trump issued a thundering statement calling McBroom’s investigation “a cover up, and a method of getting out of a Forensic Audit for the examination of the Presidential contest.” The former president then published the office phone numbers for McBroom and Michigan’s GOP Senate majority leader, Mike Shirkey, urging his followers to “call those two Senators now and get them to do the right thing, or vote them the hell out of office!”

McBroom had grown up a “history nerd.” He idolized the revolutionary Founders. He inhaled biographies of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt. He revered the institution of the American presidency. And here was the 45th president, calling him out by name, accusing him of unthinkable treachery.

“Surreal,” McBroom said quietly. He leaned back, running his hands through a mess of sweaty blond hair. Then he folded his thick arms, which bulged from a red cutoff button-up shirt, staring heavenward in search of the words. Some 30 seconds went by. “Just … surreal.”

Perhaps trying to cheer himself, McBroom told me he doubted whether Trump had personally written that statement. He doubted even more whether Trump had actually read the report. (If he had, Trump would understand why an Arizona-style “forensic audit” would be pointless.) But this was cold comfort. In many ways, Trump was a stand-in for the constituents McBroom knew who insisted that the election was stolen, who raged against the scheming Democrats and the spineless Republicans, who believed that America was succumbing to an illegitimate leftist takeover. Most of them, McBroom realized, would not read the report, either. And he wasn’t sure what more he was supposed to do for them.

“I can’t make people believe me,” McBroom said, an air of exasperation in his voice. “All I can hope is that people use their discernment and judgment, to look at the facts I’ve laid out for them, and then look at these theories out there, and ask the question: Does

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Saturday, July 3, 2021 8:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Not HR1, but the Supreme Court just put Biden* in its place again.

1. Don't go to the wrong precinct. It has never in the history of voting been easier to go online and find EXACTLY where you need to vote.

2. Contrary to popular white Liberal belief, yes... Black people do have internet connections. Everybody in America who wants the internet in 2021 has the internet in 2021 and has had it for many years.

3. Ballot harvesting should be considered one of the top ways to cheat by any rational person, and any Democrat arguing in favor of them should consider how poorly elections could turn out for them going forward if Republicans were to resign themselves to them as a new normal and end up better at cheating than the Democrats are.

It was the Navajos of Arizona, not Biden, who got kicked in the balls by the Supreme Court:

Hardly anyone has a street address on the vast Navajo Nation.



Then make a fucking exception for THEM alone and be done with it.

I'm tired of Democrats CONSTANTLY bringing up race so they can cheat.

It's not exactly like we haven't heard THAT VERY ARGUMENT in the last 2 years either.



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Saturday, July 3, 2021 4:58 PM

Progressives need to stop being stupid about voting laws

The New York Times, echoing the views of most liberals, says the Supreme Court is dismantling democracy piece by piece:

The latest blow came Thursday, when all six conservative justices voted to uphold two Arizona voting laws despite lower federal courts finding clear evidence that the laws make voting harder for voters of color — whether Black, Latino or Native American. One law requires election officials to throw out ballots that were cast in the wrong precinct; the other bars most people and groups from collecting voters’ absentee ballots and dropping them off at polling places.

This is starting to piss me off. Maybe the Supreme Court is bound and determined to take apart our voting laws no matter what, but the truth is that yesterday's ruling can be laid directly at the feet of liberals. This was just a stupid case to bring. You can't make a serious argument that there's anything really wrong with either a ban on ballot harvesting or with requiring voters to cast ballots in the right precinct.

More generally, this kind of stuff, along with voter ID laws, is popular with the public, and this has nothing to do with the alleged existence of voter fraud. Even if there's no fraud, the average Joe and Jane think ID laws make sense and are untroubled by common sense rules like being required to vote in the right precinct. Liberals will get nowhere by going after this stuff.

What's more, none of it matters. The actual effect of these rules on Black and Hispanic voter turnout turns out to be minuscule. It is a waste of time—maybe worse than just a waste of time—to yell and scream about these kinds of laws.

What really is bad are provisions of these laws that allow Republican legislatures to replace election officials they deem insufficiently loyal to the Republican cause. If you talk to moderate voters, they'll be shocked if you tell them about this. They'll agree that these provisions are outrageous.

So why do we spend so much time protesting the stuff that doesn't matter (and is popular) and so little time protesting the stuff that does matter (and is unpopular)? It is a vast mystery. And like I said, it's really starting to piss me off. If democracy is truly at stake here, wouldn't it make sense to be at least a little smart about trying to save it?

https://jabberwocking.com/progressives-need-to-stop-being-stupid-about
-voting-laws
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Saturday, July 3, 2021 7:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
What's more, none of it matters. The actual effect of these rules on Black and Hispanic voter turnout turns out to be minuscule. It is a waste of time—maybe worse than just a waste of time—to yell and scream about these kinds of laws.



No shit, huh?

Quote:

So why do we spend so much time protesting the stuff that doesn't matter (and is popular) and so little time protesting the stuff that does matter (and is unpopular)?

It is a vast mystery.



It's no mystery.

It DOES matter. By lying and saying that minorities can't vote because they're too stupid or lazy to get ID cards and/or are too stupid or lazy to go to (the correct) polling location to vote, Democrats allow for a system of zero trust in the voting process with a myriad of ways to steal an election with no checks.

Quote:

And like I said, it's really starting to piss me off.


If this guy/girl/thing/it made a list of things, making a list of things that DIDN'T piss He/she/it/they off would save everybody quite a bit of time.

Quote:

If democracy is truly at stake here, wouldn't it make sense to be at least a little smart about trying to save it?


Glad at least one witter for Lefty shill media has a few neurons firing.

I wish them all the luck in the world changing the minds of the Democrat voting morons they've been programming to think the other way for the last few decades.

Racists.



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Sunday, July 4, 2021 8:38 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
SCOTUS rules on Arizona Election Laws, effectively squashes Libtards, Fake Merritt Garland lawsuit in GA.



Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Glad at least one witter for Lefty shill media has a few neurons firing.

I wish them all the luck in the world changing the minds of the Democrat voting morons they've been programming to think the other way for the last few decades.

Racists.



Perhaps I was being overly-generous and it was just the writer pre-emptively keeping themselves from being accused of sore-looserism.

I won't bother looking back on their article history, but I'm willing to bet that previous articles they've written on the topic don't look anything like the link that Second posted today.

It's a really safe bet.

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Ed McBroom, a Republican Michigan state senator who chairs the Oversight Committee, released a report detailing his eight-month-long investigation into the legitimacy of the 2020 election:

https://misenategopcdn.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/99/doccuments/202106
23/SMPO_2020ElectionReport_2.pdf


The stakes could hardly have been higher. Against a backdrop of confusion and suspicion and frightening civic friction—with Trump claiming he’d been cheated out of victory, and anecdotes about fraud coursing through every corner of the state—McBroom had led an exhaustive probe of Michigan’s electoral integrity. His committee interviewed scores of witnesses, subpoenaed and reviewed thousands of pages of documents, dissected the procedural mechanics of Michigan’s highly decentralized elections system, and scrutinized the most trafficked claims about corruption at the state’s ballot box in November. McBroom’s conclusion hit Lansing like a meteor: It was all a bunch of nonsense.

“Our clear finding is that citizens should be confident the results represent the true results of the ballots cast by the people of Michigan,” McBroom wrote in the report. “There is no evidence presented at this time to prove either significant acts of fraud or that an organized, wide-scale effort to commit fraudulent activity was perpetrated in order to subvert the will of Michigan voters.”

For good measure, McBroom added: “The Committee strongly recommends citizens use a critical eye and ear toward those who have pushed demonstrably false theories for their own personal gain.”


This reflected a pattern throughout the report—a clear and clinical statement of facts, accompanied by more animated language that expressed disgust with the grifters selling deception to the masses and disappointment with the voters who were buying it. Sitting at his dinner table, I told the senator that his writing occasionally took a tone of anger. He smirked. “I don’t know that I ever wrote angry,” McBroom replied. “But I tried to leave no room for doubt.”

So much for that. Soon after the report was released, Trump issued a thundering statement calling McBroom’s investigation “a cover up, and a method of getting out of a Forensic Audit for the examination of the Presidential contest.” The former president then published the office phone numbers for McBroom and Michigan’s GOP Senate majority leader, Mike Shirkey, urging his followers to “call those two Senators now and get them to do the right thing, or vote them the hell out of office!”

McBroom had grown up a “history nerd.” He idolized the revolutionary Founders. He inhaled biographies of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt. He revered the institution of the American presidency. And here was the 45th president, calling him out by name, accusing him of unthinkable treachery.

“Surreal,” McBroom said quietly. He leaned back, running his hands through a mess of sweaty blond hair. Then he folded his thick arms, which bulged from a red cutoff button-up shirt, staring heavenward in search of the words. Some 30 seconds went by. “Just … surreal.”

Perhaps trying to cheer himself, McBroom told me he doubted whether Trump had personally written that statement. He doubted even more whether Trump had actually read the report. (If he had, Trump would understand why an Arizona-style “forensic audit” would be pointless.) But this was cold comfort. In many ways, Trump was a stand-in for the constituents McBroom knew who insisted that the election was stolen, who raged against the scheming Democrats and the spineless Republicans, who believed that America was succumbing to an illegitimate leftist takeover. Most of them, McBroom realized, would not read the report, either. And he wasn’t sure what more he was supposed to do for them.

“I can’t make people believe me,” McBroom said, an air of exasperation in his voice. “All I can hope is that people use their discernment and judgment, to look at the facts I’ve laid out for them, and then look at these theories out

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Tuesday, July 6, 2021 6:37 AM

I learned a new word from that report.

Pg 18 features blanderskite, which is apparently a fleshed out version of the abbreviation BS.
It seems to be an actual word because as I was typing it, autocorrection spelled it for me.

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Tuesday, July 13, 2021 4:44 PM

Texas At Less Than Its Best
By A.T. On July 13, 2021

Yesterday I promised this transcript:

. . . Just a few days after the 2020 presidential election, the lieutenant governor of the great state of Texas, a man named Dan Patrick, announced a cash reward [of] up to $1 million to anyone who could find evidence of the supposed voter fraud that President Trump said had cost him the election.

And this $1 million prize was not just for people in Texas, it was an offer valid in all 50 states . . . And wouldn`t you know it?

Soon after Texas`s Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick threw that chum into the water, he got a bite.

Oddly, he got it from somebody who has the same job he has in a different state. The lieutenant governor in Pennsylvania, a Democrat named John Fetterman said that he had taken on the challenge from Dan Patrick, and bingo, instantly, he hit pay dirt. He said he had bang up surefire evidence of an instance of real voter fraud in the 2020 election right in his home state of Pennsylvania and it was maybe not the kind of voter fraud his Texas counterpart was hoping for.

But John Fetterman tried to collect just the same. He said, hey, Lieutenant Governor Patrick, it`s me John Fetterman, your counterpart in Pennsylvania. I`d like to collect your handsome reward for reporting voter fraud. I`ve got a dude in Forty Fort PA who tried to have his dead mom vote for Trump.

Oddly, as far as we know, Pennsylvania`s lieutenant governor did not receive any of that reward money . . .

More at https://andrewtobias.com/texas-at-less-than-its-best/

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Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:07 PM

News is slow without Trump around. That story is 6 months old.

Meanwhile, HR1 is dead. It was always dead.

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Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
News is slow without Trump around. That story is 6 months old.

Meanwhile, HR1 is dead. It was always dead.

Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick is at the center of the story. Patrick, this very morning, is trying to pass a law that says if he doesn't like the results of an election, Patrick can fire the election officials and replace them with his loyal GOP minions. (Unsaid in the bill, but understood by all minions, is that the minions must declare the Republican the election winner.) The Democrats are blocking Patrick's law:

Texas Democrats flee to D.C. to thwart Republican voting restriction bills
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Te
xas-Democrats-are-fleeing-to-D-C-today-to-16309101.php


By the way, Patrick refuses to pay the million he promised, saying I don't have to pay if Trump doesn't have to pay (his taxes).

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Wednesday, July 14, 2021 7:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
News is slow without Trump around. That story is 6 months old.

Meanwhile, HR1 is dead. It was always dead.

Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick is at the center of the story. Patrick, this very morning, is trying to pass a law that says if he doesn't like the results of an election, Patrick can fire the election officials and replace them with his loyal GOP minions. (Unsaid in the bill, but understood by all minions, is that the minions must declare the Republican the election winner.) The Democrats are blocking Patrick's law:

Texas Democrats flee to D.C. to thwart Republican voting restriction bills
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Te
xas-Democrats-are-fleeing-to-D-C-today-to-16309101.php


By the way, Patrick refuses to pay the million he promised, saying I don't have to pay if Trump doesn't have to pay (his taxes).

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Oh yeah?

Show me specifically where the proposed law states any of what you just said.

I won't hold my breath.



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Wednesday, July 14, 2021 8:35 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh yeah?

Show me specifically where the proposed law states any of what you just said.

I won't hold my breath.

https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Text.aspx?LegSess=871&Bill=SB
1

Oops, two versions:
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Text.aspx?LegSess=871&Bill=HB
3


Specifically you will write, "tl;dr" but not to worry because, much the same as Republicans won't allow HR 1 to pass, the Texas Democrats won't let this Texas bill pass:

Deploy law enforcement? Call another special session? Texas GOP mulls options for elections bill after Democrats leave the state

A number of House Republicans indicated that they would support what’s known as a call of the House, a procedural move that would allow law enforcement to track down lawmakers who have already fled the chamber.

www.texastribune.org/2021/07/12/texas-republicans-elections-bill-democ
rats-flee
/

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 5:53 AM

Biden Is Speaking to an America That Doesn’t Exist

Biden said, “It’s no longer just about who gets to vote or making it easier to vote, but who gets to count the votes.” Many state legislatures have passed or are considering laws that would take election administration out of the hands of current election officials at the state level and assign them to more partisan overseers; they have written legislation that targets low-level election officials and makes them subject to penalties for actions such as mailing out unsolicited absentee-voting applications. Some longtime administrators have quit amid threats from legislators and the public, while others continue their work despite intimidation. In some states, lawmakers have tried to give themselves the power to override voters’ preferences under certain circumstances.

The premise of Biden’s speech seems to be that voters will uniformly be troubled by this. “Have you no shame?” he asked Republican officials. By now it should be clear that many do not. And they have cover, because many Republican voters back the changes. Polls find that between two-thirds and three-quarters of GOP voters don’t believe Biden is a legitimate president. Six in 10 Republicans think it’s more important to change laws to prevent fraud (which doesn’t happen) than to make voting easier, according to a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll. At the grassroots level, GOP voters appear to strongly back many of the very things Biden warns against.

As for those Americans who are alarmed, they have scant power to do anything about it—including Biden, who offered little in the way of new ideas. He called for the Senate to pass the For the People Act, a massive voting bill, and the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, but both bills have been stalled by GOP filibusters in the Senate. Biden did not call on Senate Democrats to eliminate the filibuster or create a work-around for these bills, but even if he had, it wouldn’t have done much good; Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, the Democrats’ 49th and 50th votes in the chamber, have made clear that they oppose any changes.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/biden-is-speaking-to-an-america-that-do
esn-t-exist/ar-AAM9tZg


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Thursday, July 15, 2021 7:42 AM

Democrats can't cheat anymore.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 4:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Democrats can't cheat anymore.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

Here’s how to fight Republican voting laws

I've said this before to no effect, so let's try again:

DON'T bother criticizing the actual voting provisions of Republican voting laws. They're mostly popular and mostly have close to zero effect on actual voting.

DO criticize the provisions that allow Republican legislatures to overturn results or replace election officials. Even most Republicans find these shocking when they hear about them.

That's about it. Why is this so hard?

https://jabberwocking.com/heres-how-to-fight-republican-voting-laws/

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Democrats can't cheat anymore.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

Here’s how to fight Republican voting laws

I've said this before to no effect, so let's try again:

DON'T bother criticizing the actual voting provisions of Republican voting laws. They're mostly popular and mostly have close to zero effect on actual voting.

DO criticize the provisions that allow Republican legislatures to overturn results or replace election officials. Even most Republicans find these shocking when they hear about them.

That's about it. Why is this so hard?

https://jabberwocking.com/heres-how-to-fight-republican-voting-laws/

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Yeah, but you do both.

So shut the fuck up.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:23 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Yeah, but you do both.

So shut the fuck up.

Actually, I'm less nuanced than you suggest. I'm opposed to any political idea from a Trump voter. (Their non-political thinking also tends to be stupid, but sometimes, not often, there is a tiny gold nugget of an idea in their deranged brains.) To repeat the reason for the 1,000th time: I have never known a Trump voter who was NOT crazy and stupid, judging from the results of their lives, with the exception of rich Trump voters who selected him because they don't pay taxes, same as Trump doesn't. Trump is a genius at tax cheating!

Is Donald Trump smart on taxes, or a clever tax con man who committed 'outright fraud'?
www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/15/donald-trump-taxes-smart-leg
al-fraud-new-york-times-column/1639787002
/

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Yeah, but you do both.

So shut the fuck up.

Actually, I'm less nuanced than you suggest. I'm opposed to any political idea from a Trump voter. (Their non-political thinking also tends to be stupid, but sometimes, not often, there is a tiny gold nugget of an idea in their deranged brains.) To repeat the reason for the 1,000th time: I have never known a Trump voter who was NOT crazy and stupid, judging from the results of their lives, with the exception of rich Trump voters who selected him because they don't pay taxes, same as Trump doesn't. Trump is a genius at tax cheating!

Is Donald Trump smart on taxes, or a clever tax con man who committed 'outright fraud'?
www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/15/donald-trump-taxes-smart-leg
al-fraud-new-york-times-column/1639787002
/

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You don't have an ounce of nuance in ya, buddy. I suggested no such thing.

You are also extremely predictable in your responses as well.



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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 10:14 PM

The 15th Amendment commands that “the right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.” But the pre-Voting Rights Act United States denied voting rights to millions of African Americans because powerful public officials — including judges — decided that they did not care what the Constitution had to say about voting rights. The Supreme Court isn’t even pretending that it’s bound by legal texts in its voting rights cases.

The rules in American elections are now what Chief Justice Roberts and his five even more conservative colleagues say they are — not what the Constitution or any act of Congress has to say about voting rights. In retrospect, it was probably inevitable that the conservative backlash against voting rights would flourish in the one unelected branch of the federal government.

https://www.vox.com/22575435/voting-rights-supreme-court-john-roberts-
shelby-county-constitution-brnovich-elena-kagan


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Thursday, July 22, 2021 6:12 AM

I'm "sure" that Sotomayor and Kagan are unbiased.

What a fucking joke you are, Second.



P.S. HR1 is dead. It always was.



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Saturday, July 24, 2021 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm "sure" that Sotomayor and Kagan are unbiased.

What a fucking joke you are, Second.



P.S. HR1 is dead. It always was.

If you are concerned about biased justices, the Voting Rights Act of 1965 is also dead, killed on July 1st, only 3 weeks ago, by 6 Republican Supreme Court justices.

The U.S. Supreme Court Thursday gutted most of what remains of the landmark Voting Rights Act. The court's decision, while leaving some protections involving redistricting in place, left close to a dead letter the law once hailed as the most effective civil rights legislation in the nation's history.

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/01/998758022/the-supreme-court-upheld-upho
lds-arizona-measures-that-restrict-voting


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Saturday, July 24, 2021 7:22 AM

HR 1 is still dead you say?

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Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:22 PM

Senate Republicans blocked an attempt by Democrats to advance their signature voting and elections overhaul bill in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

This was an effort by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Democrats in the chamber to put Republicans on the record on the voting rights package and to demonstrate that they are still trying to pass it despite stiff GOP opposition.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/politics/voting-right-bill-blocked-repu
blicans/index.html


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Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:24 AM



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Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:37 AM


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Senate Republicans blocked an attempt by Democrats to advance their signature voting and elections overhaul bill in the early hours of Wednesday morning.
Good. If the democrats* REALLY wanted to improve the voting process, to make it fair, accurate, and auditable, they would have consulted the experts - the Caltech/MIT Voting Technology Project - and followed those recommendations. But that's not what they did.

If life is fair, then HR1 will never get off the ground.

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Thursday, August 12, 2021 11:04 AM

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Senate Republicans blocked an attempt by Democrats to advance their signature voting and elections overhaul bill in the early hours of Wednesday morning.
Good. If the democrats* REALLY wanted to improve the voting process, to make it fair, accurate, and auditable, they would have consulted the experts - the Caltech/MIT Voting Technology Project - and followed those recommendations. But that's not what they did.

If life is fair, then HR1 will never get off the ground.

Trump wanted to have the Justice Department push the Georgia state legislature to call its own special session, overturn the actual results, and declare Trump the real winner. That didn't happen only because other attorneys said they would resign en masse if Trump pulled this stunt. Caltech/MIT Voting Technology Project has nothing to say about Trump's stunt, but HR1 would have thwarted Trump. You can read about Trump's failed steal, 1kiki, here:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/jeffrey-bossert-clark-trum
p-justice-department-election-coup.html


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Thursday, August 12, 2021 2:21 PM


CalTech/MIT has procedures to prevent fuck-ups that lead to uncertainty - and competing and unverified claims - as well as procedures to unscramble results (data) after the fact and check for validity.

It has everything to do with the current crappy election process and how to fix it.

Unlike the democrats'* 'plan', which has everything to do with making elections even more ncertain and crappy.

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Thursday, August 12, 2021 4:47 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

CalTech/MIT has procedures to prevent fuck-ups that lead to uncertainty - and competing and unverified claims - as well as procedures to unscramble results (data) after the fact and check for validity.

It has everything to do with the current crappy election process and how to fix it.

Unlike the democrats'* 'plan', which has everything to do with making elections even more ncertain and crappy.

1kiki, start with CalTech/MIT https://www.vote.caltech.edu/
Nothing there is the magic fairy dust you are sprinkling:
Quote:

Line Optimization and Poll Worker Management
Developer: Stephen Graves and Rong Yuan
This tool uses queueing theory to calculate the minimal number of service stations at a process step in a polling place so as to satisfy a service target on maximum waiting times.

Poll Worker and Machine Optimization
Developer: Aaron Strauss
An easy-to-use calculator that takes basic information about a precinct and reports the number of check-in poll books and voting machines needed to keep lines short during a presidential election

Line Optimization
Developer: Mark Pelczarski
This simulation gives an idea of potential voter wait times for if you have estimates of projected turnout, average time to vote with your ballot and equipment, and average time required to check-in each voter.



1kiki, on the other hand, you completely ignored that article about Trump squeezing Georgia to change the votes. CalTech/MIT won't stop that, but HR-1 would put election officials in prison for listening to Trump. And Trump would be in the same prison.

See TITLE X—PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE PRESIDENTIAL TAX TRANSPARENCY for what happens to crooked Presidents:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text?r=1

No GOP Senator would vote for HR-1 because the bill makes it a crime to be a crook & liar like Trump.

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Thursday, August 12, 2021 6:49 PM

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1kiki, on the other hand, you completely ignored that article about Trump squeezing Georgia to change the votes.



Georgia already willingly changed the votes for Biden*.

also

Everybody ignores any articles you post.

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Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:21 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
1kiki, on the other hand, you completely ignored that article about Trump squeezing Georgia to change the votes.



Georgia already willingly changed the votes for Biden*.

also

Everybody ignores any articles you post.

I noticed that Trump voters don't use the maintenance/operation manuals at work they must read in order to competently do their jobs. Those over-confident, under-skilled Trumptards break a lot of machinery and tools because they don't know exactly what they are doing. It is more amusing than irritating to watch them botch simple jobs. Away from work, these guys probably cause a lot of damage and waste time/money because they pretty likely don't read with true comprehension anything they should read. That's why their work lives are a constant struggle while other people who understand what they read can sail through life with ease.

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Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:21 PM


Voting - What Is, What Could Be (2001)
Caltech/MIT Voting Technology Project
07/01/2001
http://vote.caltech.edu/reports/1

Where We Have Been, Where We Are Going: Project Update (2003)
Caltech/MIT Voting Technology Project
01/01/2003
http://vote.caltech.edu/reports/2

Towards Better Voting Technology Research: Building a Research-Industry Dialogue (2007)
Caltech/MIT Voting Technology Project
11/30/2008
http://vote.caltech.edu/reports/4

Residual Votes Attributable to Technology: An Assessment of the Reliability of Existing Voting Technologies
Stephen Ansolabehere, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Charles Stewart III, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
11/30/2008
http://vote.caltech.edu/reports/5

Quote:

we find that in presidential elections, traditional paper ballots produce the lowest rates of uncounted vote


The Quality of Voter Registration Records: A State-by-State Analysis
Stephen Ansolabehere, Harvard University
Eitan Hersh, Harvard University
7/14/2010
http://vote.caltech.edu/reports/6

Voting: What Has Changed, What Hasn't, & What Needs Improvement (2012)
R. Michael Alvarez, California Institute of Technology
Jonathan N. Katz, California Institute of Technology
Charles Stewart III, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Ronald L. Rivest, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Stephen Ansolabehere, Harvard University
Thad E. Hall, University of Utah
10/18/2012
http://vote.caltech.edu/reports/7
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A movement toward mandating statistically meaningful post-election audits, rather than setting security standards for election equipment, as the primary way to safeguard the integrity of the vote


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Thursday, August 12, 2021 7:38 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Voting - What Is, What Could Be (2001)
Caltech/MIT Voting Technology Project

Every county in Texas, 254 of them, uses different technology from every other county because they pick whatever is cheapest or oldest or most obsolete. HR-1 will fix that, but leaving things as it is now, which is what the Texas Legislature intends, is doing the opposite of what Caltech/MIT recommends. The Legislature is "fixing" the system by excluding voters. There is no hardware or technological improvements in any the legislation because that would cost money.

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Thursday, August 12, 2021 11:44 PM


Paper ballots cost next to nothing but are the most accurately-tallied way to vote. They can't be hacked electronically, and if they have a CoC they're accurate. And statistical audits ensure that large-scale fraud - perhaps like 2020 - won't go undetected.

But HR1 doesn't address that. Because the authors of HR1 don't want to fix the problems, they want to perpetuate them with, just with the addition their own brand of fraud-compliant loopholes.

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Friday, August 13, 2021 7:39 AM

yeah, it looks to me like they want to centralize authority over the election process. Everything the FEC does has bothered me for years. It used to both me when I was a loyal liberal, and it still bothers me.

Quote:


Every Democrat but one voted late March 3 for H.R. 1, a massive voting reform bill that has drawn harsh criticism from the GOP.

Every Republican voted against the bill. They were joined by Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.).


Yeah, that looks dead. I don't see how an election reform with a completely one sided support would be at all democratic.

I agree about paper ballots, they should stay. It's stupid easy to defraud voting machines or online voting.

What should really happen here is states should take more control over their own local politics and obviate the US federal govt. I know the argument against that has always been "but slavery" but slavery is not the issue on the table.


But more than any of that I think basically every regime post 2000 has been "would you trust this govt to change the way elections are done?"

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Friday, August 13, 2021 7:40 AM

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1kiki, on the other hand, you completely ignored that article about Trump squeezing Georgia to change the votes.



Georgia already willingly changed the votes for Biden*.

also

Everybody ignores any articles you post.

I noticed that Trump voters don't use the maintenance/operation manuals at work they must read in order to competently do their jobs.



I have a the most up-to-date PDF manual for my car as well as every appliance and tool that I own which I have backed up on 3 drives and the cloud, where I can view any one of them at any time from my tablet.

Fuck your anecdotes.



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Friday, August 13, 2021 2:57 PM

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I have a the most up-to-date PDF manual for my car as well as every appliance and tool that I own which I have backed up on 3 drives and the cloud, where I can view any one of them at any time from my tablet.

Fuck your anecdotes.

Not that you will understand, but there is a huge difference between having a manual and understanding the machine in the same way as the engineer who designed the machine described in the manual. The Trumptards get into trouble because they are confident in their very simplified working knowledge when they shouldn't be.

Trumptards are missing The Baloney Detection Kit. Carl Sagan’s rules for critical thinking against general falsehood.
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-baloney-detection-kit-carl-saga
n-s-rules-for-bullshit-busting-and-critical-thinking




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, August 13, 2021 6:44 PM

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I have a the most up-to-date PDF manual for my car as well as every appliance and tool that I own which I have backed up on 3 drives and the cloud, where I can view any one of them at any time from my tablet.

Fuck your anecdotes.

Not that you will understand, but there is a huge difference between having a manual and understanding the machine in the same way as the engineer who designed the machine described in the manual.



You're right. That's why 99% of the assholes walking around with smartphones today get what they deserve.

Don't try to talk down to me, son. I just took a turd with a higher IQ than yours.

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Thursday, September 30, 2021 5:15 PM

Trump: Audit not big enough

By Taylor Goldenstein AUSTIN BUREAU

Gov. Greg Abbott’s plan to audit the 2020 election results in four of the state’s biggest counties apparently did not pass muster for former President Donald Trump.

“By allowing the Democrats to do what they do, it will make it much harder for the governor and other Republicans to win election in 2022 and into the future,” Trump said in a statement to the Texas Tribune on Wednesday. “Texas is a much redder state than anyone knows, but this is the way to make sure it turns blue.”

Abbott’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment Wednesday, but his spokeswoman Renae Eze said in a statement to the Tribune that “Texas is conducting the largest forensic audit in the country.”

“We have all the tools necessary to conduct a full, comprehensive audit, and that process will address any irregularities and ensure all valid votes are counted,” she said.

Last week, Trump in a public letter had pushed Abbott — who the former president has endorsed ahead of the 2022 Republican primary — to add legislation to the Legislature’s special session agenda that would make it easier for counties to audit election results.

“Texans know voting fraud occurred in some of their counties,” Trump wrote in the letter, despite a lack of evidence of widespread fraud. “Let’s get to the bottom of the 2020 Presidential Election scam!”

Later that day, the Texas secretary of state’s office announced it would audit Collin, Dallas, Harris and Tarrant counties’ election results, without providing much detail.

The office clarified in a document released Tuesday night how the audit would work, and much of it was already required of counties as part of routine election procedure review. The second phase was set to begin in spring 2022 and would involve reviewing voting machine accuracy tests, lists of voters, training materials and other election-related documents.

But Trump has been specific about his demand from the get-go: He wants House Bill 16, authored by Rep. Steve Toth, R-The Woodlands, to be added to the special session call and approved.

The bill would require county clerks to convene a “election review advisory committee” to review 2020 election results from randomly selected precincts if a state or county party chair requested it. Other provisions would make it easier for candidates and others to request audits from their county clerk or the secretary of state. taylor.goldenstein@chron.com

https://web.archive.org/web/20210930111946/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/politics/texas/article/Abbott-s-four-county-2020-election-audit-16497682.php


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, September 30, 2021 5:51 PM

Wow. Making sure that elections are legit?

Sounds downright devious.

If you're a Democrat.

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Thursday, September 30, 2021 6:28 PM

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Wow. Making sure that elections are legit?

Sounds downright devious.

If you're a Democrat.

The Republican governor saw the election as legit, but when Trump said it wasn't (although Trump won by landslide in Texas) then the Republican governor changed his mind to please Trump. Trump alone is driving the change in voting laws in all states and the audits, too. It is Trump 24/7. If he wasn't selling the fake news that he won, Texas would not be auditing the vote again and again and again until Trump is satisfied.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, September 30, 2021 6:33 PM

No matter where the idea came from, this should be done for every election.

But you're a Democrat, so you wouldn't understand anything about integrity.



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Thursday, September 30, 2021 7:52 PM

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No matter where the idea came from, this should be done for every election.

But you're a Democrat, so you wouldn't understand anything about integrity.

Until Trump wrote letters telling Republican governors and legislators to implement Trump's ideas, nothing was changing. But suddenly, everything had to change, which means those Republicans have no integrity.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, December 5, 2021 3:53 AM

Three GOP Maine lawmakers sign letter calling for ‘audit’ of 2020 election

https://mainebeacon.com/three-gop-maine-lawmakers-sign-letter-calling-
for-audit-of-2020-election
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Congressman Paul Gosar 'There is far too much at risk - we can't afford to let our momentum slow'
There was also a thread here on fireflyfans called

'Where Did All Of The Voting Fraud Threads Go?'

Another social media
https://gab.com/DrPaulGosar/posts/107389617375504812

parallel internet...brighteon
minds, Bitchute, https://sovren.media and websites like medium

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