Victoria's Secret Switching To Lesbian Lingerie
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OK, if we're getting personal here: only an idiot with an ax to grind and a hair-trigger raging ego that thinks any disagreement at all, no matter how mild, no matter how well documented, is an attack that deserves eradication, would think the number of videos on yoobtoob is an indication of factuality.
Capiche?
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You already made it personal. Like you always do when your frail femininity gets questioned and you're put in your place.
Good luck to all the crybaby fatty girls that are happy they can live an unhealthy way of life now that they believe Victoria's Secret has given them the green light to do so.
I hope they enjoy the company of cats.
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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
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I've been ignoring your stream of snark and jabs this whole thread. Until now.
BTW, unlike YOU and WISHI, I have zero interest in kissing and telling, just to 'prove' myself to random people on the internet.
But hey, if that's what you need to do to paper over your fragile ego - well, too bad for you.
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Quote:??? Hey, dood, I've worked with with men my whole life. They don't, by and large fall into the "metrosexual" category, so I don't know who you thk you're talking to.
SIGNYM:
Women are attracted to good-looking men, just like men are attracted to good-looking women.
But most women (that I know, anyway) have a height requirement for men. All 3 of the shorter-than-average men that I know had an extremely hard time finding a date, or a mate, altho they were all successful salary-wise. The (1) shorter-than average (Philippino) man that I know who married and stayed married basically had an arranged green card marriage with a Philippina. It was a successful marriage and they cared about each other, ut it was still arranged. The other short man that I know (2) was a fitness buff and quite socially adept, so I think his only disqualifier was his height. And not being plugged tightly into the Phlippino community (altho he was half Philippino) put the "imports" out of reach. The third was pudgy and a buffoon so there were MANY reasons why women might find him unattractive.
Men also prefer women to be shorter than they are, so it's more difficult for a tall women to find a date/mate than one of average height.
AFA men preferring Victoria's Secret models... one of the problems with ads and porn is that they set unrealistic expectations for how women look, what sex should be like etc. so I think there's too much conformity imposed on the both sexes by advertising agencies.
JSF: Logic Failure. Your small viewpoint of your metrosexual life group is showing.
Quote:Not sure that that's true. Men tend to "show off" for women,
JSF: Men don't really care what women think.
Quote:??? Once again, not sure who or what you're responding to.
JSF: Women are more likely to be attracted to men who stand on their own, don't cave to namby pamby nancy boy soyboy mentalities. The ads you must be watching are trying to capture the aura of the real men who women are attracted to, who are not posing, (or virtue signaling), and who do not tweeze their eyebrows.
The weak-minded males who are adoring of women who do nothing but nag or blather-spout about their delusions are not the preeminent specimens of strong gene pool.
I just made a general statement that I think ads and porn create unrealistic expectations between the sexes. Men want the swimsuit model with a tight vagina who moans for impersonal sex with a 15" cock, and women are conditioned to want the studly he-man. Not sure how much women watch porn, so there may not be as much conditioning thru that avenue, but I'm under the impression that men believe that "size [length] matters" when it comes to penises. which BTW is not entirely true: Many women enjoy circumference more than length, but that's prolly more than you needed or wanted to know. So back to the general statement: Ads and porn create unrealistic expectations between the sexes.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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SIX, you've been unreasonably hostile thru tis whole exchange, and I wonder: What DO you want from women?
I seem to recall a rather lengthy post - I believe it was by you- dripping with venom about women who use their looks and the promise of sex to extract drinks and dinner from men all the while yammering about purses and such.
And yet, when a woman says she DOESN'T want to play that game - get tarted up just for a man - you immediately claim she's a "man-hater".
So, which is it? What do you expect from women?
HINT: I don't think you have many women in your life, and I think you may have some unresolved mommy-issues that are clouding your expectations of women. If there's anyone who hates the other sex in this thread, that's probably you.
Not to worry. I had "mommy issues" too, and grew up hating women. It took meeting some extraordinary women to realize that they weren't all weak, unreliable, emotionally blackmailing drunkards. I hope you meet some smart, kind, stable women some day who see you and like you for who you are, and that you get a whole new perspective about the other sex and how they might fit into your life.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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You seem surprised by my response. It is possible I jumped on a soap box after being triggered by what I thought I read.
It is possible that what you thought you posted was not what I thought I read,and I may have overreacted.
I am willing to attempt to break this down in more detail, but it might not be quick. And I'll likely edit your post some, as well.
On the other hand, if you might wish to argue, feel free to skip past this post.
Quote:hmmmmm. I'm thinking most supermodels are above-average height. Helps make their legs look long and lean. This might just be an exemption for the height bias, rather than disproof of general height bias.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
SIGNYM:
Women are attracted to good-looking men, just like men are attracted to good-looking women.
But most women (that I know, anyway) have a height requirement for men. All 3 of the shorter-than-average men that I know had an extremely hard time finding a date, or a mate, altho they were all successful salary-wise.
Men also prefer women to be shorter than they are, so it's more difficult for a tall women to find a date/mate than one of average height.
Quote:Here is where I heard "metrosexual world" - yes, I agree women look at advertisements as if they are real world, just like Soap Operas are real world, real relationships, and this is why the entire wager by DeBoers revolved solely around targeting women to sell worthless diamonds to for outrageous and ridiculous prices.Quote:
AFA men preferring Victoria's Secret models... one of the problems with ads and porn is that they set unrealistic expectations for how women look, what sex should be like etc. so I think there's too much conformity imposed on the both sexes by advertising agencies.
But men looking at fashion ads to tell them how to dress? Makes me LOL. Sure, there are males who try to use clothing as a "thigh opener" if that trick works. I normally think of them as swarthy, smarmy, greasy, oily, and of little substance. If clothing isn't the effective trick, they'll try some trick of charm - then try getting a girl drunk, then drugs, then slipping a mickey, then forcible rape if needed.
But the sort of male who cannot fathom how to put clothes on, to select cloth and fabric to wear, until they consult with the most effeminate gay fashion maven - that screams METROSEXUAL.
Quote:I meant about how we look in clothes, how we are dressed.Quote:??? Hey, dood, I've worked with with men my whole life. They don't, by and large fall into the "metrosexual" category, so I don't know who you thk you're talking to.
JSF: Logic Failure. Your small viewpoint of your metrosexual life group is showing.Quote:
JSF: Men don't really care what women think.
Quote:Yes, show off their intellect, strength, athleticism, coordination, dance moves, wealth. But whether we should wear clothing for men instead of whatever the most effeminate queer fashion dunce sez should be draped across our form? We don't care what she thinks about that, except in the privacy of the bedroom.
Not sure that that's true. Men tend to "show off" for women,
Quote:The concept which I objected to was not that women have unrealistic expectations, butQuote:??? Once again, not sure who or what you're responding to.
JSF: Women are more likely to be attracted to men who stand on their own, don't cave to namby pamby nancy boy soyboy mentalities. The ads you must be watching are trying to capture the aura of the real men who women are attracted to, who are not posing, (or virtue signaling), and who do not tweeze their eyebrows.
The weak-minded males who are adoring of women who do nothing but nag or blather-spout about their delusions are not the preeminent specimens of strong gene pool.
I just made a general statement that I think ads and porn create unrealistic expectations between the sexes.
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JSF, it's obvious that we're talking past eachother. Sometimes we intersect but mostly we're talking in different directions.
I appreciate you detailing your thoughts, and it's clearer to me that mostly this is a case of misunderstanding, but we also have different thoughts. Unfortunately, it would take time that I don't have right now to get back to you on this. But like I said, it's mostly a misunderstanding.
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Quote:First of all I want to thank you for a long and detailed reply. I interpolated a few comments below.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So, to be clear, you would not feel the need to be a Micro-Touch Solo man, or any other marketed 'sexy' image.
Quote:Which begs the question as to what makes an attractive face. For Inuit, a very round and broad face was considered the height of beauty. Why a round face instead of a long slender one? There doesn't seem to be a genetic survival value to it, so maybe it's because they told themselves so. Maybe it had to do with rarity. When it comes to good looks, peoples often prize what's rare and exotic. Blond straight hair in a planet full of (dominant genetic) brunettes, many with (dominant genetic) kinky or wavy hair, is often more prized.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope.
I put no effort into being sexy. I just am because of the choices that I make in life. It's a bi-product of my current lifestyle.
I certainly wasn't sexy when I was 50 lbs overweight and drinking a tanker of Icehouse in a year in between binge-watching so many shows on Netflix that I ran out of good ones and was really watching a lot of garbage, but after I cleaned up and got back into shape, and cut gluten out of my diet, and had an extremely physical job for a few years, and learned a lot of things on my own about how to build and fix things... much of that ability and those tools drawn from my pre-drinking days, I'm sexy just by doing me.
Now, is there some sort of "universal" ideal of sexiness for a man and woman?
Of course not.
A woman who looks at the Micro Touch Solo man and creams her jeans probably isn't going to find my current long hair and (meticulously groomed) lumberjack beard sexy. That's fine with me. I'm not doing it for her. And I'm also not doing it for the ones who do find it sexy. I'm doing it for me.
But there are underlying factors of sexiness that are almost universal. Being born with a naturally attractive face is nice, but not everyone can win the genetic lottery.
Quote:'Physical fitness as attractive' isn't a world-wide, millennial-long standard, it's mostly a modern one. The Spartans prized physical fitness in both men and women; the Athenians, not so much. The Wodaabe tribe still favors male beauty (tallness, and white teeth and eyes) where women choose based on looks, over fitness. The Ethiopian Bodi tribe still favors really really fat men over fitness. Hawaiians favored fat people of both sexes, because it meant you were eating pig, which was reserved for VIPs, instead of the common fish and poi diet. It also meant you were eating enough calories to keep ahead of endemic tapeworm - not that they realized that the slimness of the commoners was due to parasites, they just knew that slenderness was common, and fatness was not. As recently as 100 years ago the western world favored plump women with fair skin and a weak (not a whole lot of muscle) build, because, as Signy pointed out, it was an indication of status. As a woman, you weren't doing hard physical labor all day, every day, in the fields, in the hot skin-leathering sun, on poor rations.
(Admittedly, despite my good looks, I am what would be considered slightly less than average height for a male in the 2020's, which studies say would cause anywhere from 60 to 80% of women to scroll right past me on dating apps without looking any deeper into my profile. You can't win 'em all).
There are other things you can do to increase your attractiveness to others. Physical fitness is a large one. Incorporating the effort to become physically fit into an activity you enjoy rather than going to the gym and obsessively counting calories every day can make it a fairly easy one too.
Quote:So an absolutist statement like this, as if it was some kind of genetic human truth, is not congruent with reality. It's j
Fat, is not sexy.
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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:First of all I want to thank you for a long and detailed reply. I interpolated a few comments below.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So, to be clear, you would not feel the need to be a Micro-Touch Solo man, or any other marketed 'sexy' image.Quote:Which begs the question as to what makes an attractive face. For Inuit, a very round and broad face was considered the height of beauty. Why a round face instead of a long slender one? There doesn't seem to be a genetic survival value to it, so maybe it's because they told themselves so. Maybe it had to do with rarity. When it comes to good looks, peoples often prize what's rare and exotic. Blond straight hair in a planet full of (dominant genetic) brunettes, many with (dominant genetic) kinky or wavy hair, is often more prized.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope.
I put no effort into being sexy. I just am because of the choices that I make in life. It's a bi-product of my current lifestyle.
I certainly wasn't sexy when I was 50 lbs overweight and drinking a tanker of Icehouse in a year in between binge-watching so many shows on Netflix that I ran out of good ones and was really watching a lot of garbage, but after I cleaned up and got back into shape, and cut gluten out of my diet, and had an extremely physical job for a few years, and learned a lot of things on my own about how to build and fix things... much of that ability and those tools drawn from my pre-drinking days, I'm sexy just by doing me.
Now, is there some sort of "universal" ideal of sexiness for a man and woman?
Of course not.
A woman who looks at the Micro Touch Solo man and creams her jeans probably isn't going to find my current long hair and (meticulously groomed) lumberjack beard sexy. That's fine with me. I'm not doing it for her. And I'm also not doing it for the ones who do find it sexy. I'm doing it for me.
But there are underlying factors of sexiness that are almost universal. Being born with a naturally attractive face is nice, but not everyone can win the genetic lottery.Quote:'Physical fitness as attractive' isn't a world-wide, millennial-long standard, it's mostly a modern one. The Spartans prized physical fitness in both men and women; the Athenians, not so much. The Wodaabe tribe still favors male beauty (tallness, and white teeth and eyes) where women choose based on looks, over fitness. The Ethiopian Bodi tribe still favors really really fat men over fitness. Hawaiians favored fat people of both sexes, because it meant you were eating pig, which was reserved for VIPs, instead of the common fish and poi diet. It also meant you were eating enough calories to keep ahead of endemic tapeworm - not that they realized that the slimness of the commoners was due to parasites, they just knew that slenderness was common, and fatness was not. As recently as 100 years ago the western world favored plump women with fair skin and a weak (not a whole lot of muscle) build, because, as Signy pointed out, it was an indication of status. As a woman, you weren't doing hard physical labor all day, every day, in the fields, in the hot skin-leathering sun, on poor rations.
(Admittedly, despite my good looks, I am what would be considered slightly less than average height for a male in the 2020's, which studies say would cause anywhere from 60 to 80% of women to scroll right past me on dating apps without looking any deeper into my profile. You can't win 'em all).
There are other things you can do to increase your attractiveness to others. Physical fitness is a large one. Incorporating the effort to become physically fit into an activity you enjoy rather than going to the gym and obsessively counting calories every day can make it a fairly easy one too.Quote:So an absolutist statement like this, as if it was some kind of genetic human tru
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