Liberals Win!
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Quote:If time, you might check out the other countries which also flip flop the meanings of those terms, parties, groups.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It is funny to hear that Democrats and Conservatives are more or less flipped in Canada compared to here. Especially since aside from the French speaking citizens they do speak English and they're right next to us.
I'm sure the situation is a lot more nuanced than two carbon copy clones of our parties with swapped names though.
If you take the SJW "progressives" like A.O.C. and Omar out of the party and give them their own party (the Liberal party), then I probably agree with Canada's version of the Democrat party a lot more than I do our own.
As interesting as it is, I should probably exit this conversation at this point though, since I've already said too much.
I'm basing my opinion of Canada's politics off of my dislike for Tredeau and 45 minutes worth of YouTube videos from a 35 year old, who while he comes off as smart and sure of his analysis, might not know as much as he believes he knows.
UK has a Labor Party, as well.
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Well, considering the US don't have a 'liberal' party, or a 'conservative' party, or a 'new democrat' party, or a 'Québécois' party - for example - it's a bit off-target to claim that Canada is a bad copy of US political divisions. And considering that many countries existed long before the US, and their political parties, their historical names, and aims nationally evolved for centuries long before the US, it's a also bit off-target to claim they're cattywampus to the US as well. Surely you've noticed the US doesn't have a 'labour' party or a 'tory' party, for example. It's not like the US sets come kind of global standard for political identification.
One needs to take each political division and its name on its own terms.
Oh, that also goes for falsely claiming people are 'Nazis'. That political ID was crafted for a particular set of ideas born in Germany in the 1920's. And while there are genuine Nazis today - in Europe (specifically Ukraine) - it's not a term one should use because of a minor resemblance to the real deal.
There are many other examples of the misunderstanding and misuse of political IDs.
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Quote:I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well, considering the US don't have a 'liberal' party, or a 'conservative' party, or a 'new democrat' party, or a 'Québécois' party - for example - it's a bit off-target to claim that Canada is a bad copy of US political divisions. And considering that many countries existed long before the US, and their political parties, their historical names, and aims nationally evolved for centuries long before the US, it's a also bit off-target to claim they're cattywampus to the US as well. Surely you've noticed the US doesn't have a 'labour' party or a 'tory' party, for example. It's not like the US sets come kind of global standard for political identification.
One needs to take each political division and its name on its own terms.
Oh, that also goes for falsely claiming people are 'Nazis'. That political ID was crafted for a particular set of ideas born in Germany in the 1920's. And while there are genuine Nazis today - in Europe (specifically Ukraine) - it's not a term one should use because of a minor resemblance to the real deal.
There are many other examples of the misunderstanding and misuse of political IDs.
Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.
For instance, Brenda oft mentions that she seems to despise Trump, when hating her Conservatoives islike hating Democrats.in America
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well, considering the US don't have a 'liberal' party, or a 'conservative' party, or a 'new democrat' party, or a 'Québécois' party - for example - it's a bit off-target to claim that Canada is a bad copy of US political divisions. And considering that many countries existed long before the US, and their political parties, their historical names, and aims nationally evolved for centuries long before the US, it's a also bit off-target to claim they're cattywampus to the US as well. Surely you've noticed the US doesn't have a 'labour' party or a 'tory' party, for example. It's not like the US sets come kind of global standard for political identification.
One needs to take each political division and its name on its own terms.
Oh, that also goes for falsely claiming people are 'Nazis'. That political ID was crafted for a particular set of ideas born in Germany in the 1920's. And while there are genuine Nazis today - in Europe (specifically Ukraine) - it's not a term one should use because of a minor resemblance to the real deal.
There are many other examples of the misunderstanding and misuse of political IDs.
Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.
For instance, Brenda oft mentions that she seems to despise Trump, when hating her Conservatoives islike hating Democrats.in America
JSF, I do despise Trump. Conservatism may not be the same flavour as in the US but that still doesn't make them right. I usually vote NDP.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.
Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.
This is what I gathered from your posts.
It's an idea that should be explored more.
Maybe instead of trying to cram CRT down the throats of kids, they should be explaining concepts such as this to children.
Critical thinking is one of the most valuable skills a person can have, yet critical thinking is what the educational system in this country actively goes out of its way to destroy.
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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
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Quote:Yes, as we have been pointing out, the New Democrat Party in Canada is most like conservatives in America. And Trump is the most conservative President that America has had since Reagan (30 years before).
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:JSF, I do despise Trump. Conservatism may not be the same flavour as in the US but that still doesn't make them right. I usually vote NDP.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well, considering the US don't have a 'liberal' party, or a 'conservative' party, or a 'new democrat' party, or a 'Québécois' party - for example - it's a bit off-target to claim that Canada is a bad copy of US political divisions. And considering that many countries existed long before the US, and their political parties, their historical names, and aims nationally evolved for centuries long before the US, it's a also bit off-target to claim they're cattywampus to the US as well. Surely you've noticed the US doesn't have a 'labour' party or a 'tory' party, for example. It's not like the US sets come kind of global standard for political identification.
One needs to take each political division and its name on its own terms.
Oh, that also goes for falsely claiming people are 'Nazis'. That political ID was crafted for a particular set of ideas born in Germany in the 1920's. And while there are genuine Nazis today - in Europe (specifically Ukraine) - it's not a term one should use because of a minor resemblance to the real deal.
There are many other examples of the misunderstanding and misuse of political IDs.
Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.
For instance, Brenda oft mentions that she seems to despise Trump, when hating her Conservatoives islike hating Democrats.in America
So that is like saying you despise the NDP but vote for them.
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Quote:Do you find it disingenuous that Libtards have eliminated CRITICAL Thinking, but to try to imply validity they are replacing it with CRITICAL Race Theory?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:This is what I gathered from your posts.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.
Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.
It's an idea that should be explored more.
Maybe instead of trying to cram CRT down the throats of kids, they should be explaining concepts such as this to children.
Critical thinking is one of the most valuable skills a person can have, yet critical thinking is what the educational system in this country actively goes out of its way to destroy.
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The fact that they both have critical in their names make them just about as related as the patriots that framed the Constitution and the framers of the Patriot Act.
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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
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Yes, as we have been pointing out, the New Democrat Party in Canada is most like conservatives in America.
The NDP in Canada is nothing like the Republican Party in the US.
These are from the NDP platform
https://www.ndp.ca/commitments
For example, under 'affordability' this is their platform
https://www.ndp.ca/affordability
Medicine for all
Quality, affordable child care when you need it
Better services all Canadians can rely on
Making sure everyone can afford a place to call home
Making Employment Insurance work for you
Affordable post-secondary education for everyone
Affordable, quality cell phone service and high-speed broadband for all
Then there's the economy, the environment, the social compact, reconciliation, and communities.
I'm pretty sure US Republicans would take great issue with the vast majority of the Canadian NDP platform.
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Quote:You seemed to have mentioned the "issues" that EVERY Party of Canada that I looked at has duplicated - when everybody is for something, then nobody is truly for it.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:The NDP in Canada is nothing like the Republican Party in the US.
Yes, as we have been pointing out, the New Democrat Party in Canada is most like conservatives in America.
These are from the NDP platform
https://www.ndp.ca/commitments
For example, under 'affordability' this is their platform
https://www.ndp.ca/affordability
Medicine for all
Quality, affordable child care when you need it
Better services all Canadians can rely on
Making sure everyone can afford a place to call home
Making Employment Insurance work for you
Affordable post-secondary education for everyone
Affordable, quality cell phone service and high-speed broadband for all
Then there's the economy, the environment, the social compact, reconciliation, and communities.
I'm pretty sure US Republicans would take great issue with the vast majority of the Canadian NDP platform.
Are you claiming NDP are trying to destroy the economy of Canada?
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