Liberals Win!
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UPDATED: Thursday, July 4, 2024 17:33
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I see 307 liberals there.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Wow. That's not just a bit shy of a majority, it's a LOT short!
Thanks for the numbers, Brenda!
You're welcome Kiki.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I see 307 liberals there.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You would be wrong Jack. The Conservative party in Canada is not a good one.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
The Liberals have won but they are a minority government this time around. Conservatives are the Loyal Opposition.
The Liberals will be joining with the NDP to make up the Federal government.
I'll get you the numbers later of breakdown of seats.
Brenda, can you send some Canadians down here for our next election?
Canada’s climate election
Multiple scandals threatened his re-election, but Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau managed to narrowly defeat his Conservative opponent in the country’s federal elections on Monday. However, his Liberal Party—the equivalent to mainstream Democrats in America—lost more than 30 seats and its majority in Parliament.
But Canada isn’t a two-party system, so Canada’s Conservative Party—the Republican party-equivalent—isn’t suddenly in control of Parliament. Indeed, the results simply mean that Liberals in Parliament will have to negotiate with elected members of the smaller, further-left New Democratic Party to gain enough support to pass progressive legislation. (See here for a more specific breakdown of the results).
This is great news for the climate, said Catherine Abreu, executive director of Climate Action Network Canada—in fact, the whole election was.
“We got a pretty resounding signal that Canadian voters are on board with climate action,” she said. “Sixty-three percent of people voted for parties with very strong climate plans.” At the same time, only two percent of the population voted for the only Canadian party that denies climate change, the right-wing People’s Party of Canada. The PPC failed to elect a single member of Parliament.
And climate change “dominated the election,” reported Canada’s Global News, adding that the issue “occupied a more prominent space in the election discourse than any previous campaign in Canadian history.”
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I recently ran across a mention of the Canada Conservative Party. I know that each nation has different definitions of parties with the same names. I was wondering what the differences were between Canada Conservative Party and American conservatives.
The 2019 Canada Conservative Party Platform:
https://ospe.on.ca/advocacy/2019-conservative-party-platform/
https://clean50.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Party-Platform-CPC.pdf
It seems that the Canada Conservative Party (CCP) is almost the opposite of American conservatives (AC), except for raw sewage dumps, indigenous peoples, Child Tax Credits, etc.
Seems CCP is more like America's Green Party, a lot of Democrat Party.
No wonder folk get confused if they imagine Conservative Party in Canada is anything like conservatives in America.
Another thread, similar topic:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=19236
Copied from that thread, 15 years ago:
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Originally posted by FunctionX:
If Republicans were actually Republicans - you know:
- Fiscal Responsibility
- Staying the F out of people's lives
- Supporting small business / anti-monopoly
- Making a government so small it can barely be seen
- Privatizing all government services because the government can never compete / be as efficient as a coporate service for profit.
You know... the whole REPUBLICAN thing - then yes, I think they'd be the natural party for many Americans.
If the Democrats were actually Democrats - you know:
- Supporting honest living wages for American workers
- Rejecting illegal immigration because it takes from American jobs and goes against union working laws and conditions
- Treating Social Security, Welfare, and the possibility of socialized health care as a hand up, not a hand out
You know, the whole DEMOCRAT thing - then yes, they'd be the natural party for many Americans.
//Wondering if Libertarian = Browncoat?
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I saw a YT video from a youngish guy in Canada. Maybe in his mid-thirties. He went into quite a lot of detail of the history of Canada and Canadian politics and certainly seemed to know what he was talking about.
It sounds like their "New Democratic Party" is nothing like our Democrats here, and their "Conservative Party" is not anything like our Republicans either.
I think the most interesting take away from that video is that their Democrat party (NOT the Liberal Party) is the most Nationalistic party of the bunch.
He also made the point that although the media worldwide seems to laud Canada as really having it together and that everyone in Canada is somehow in agreement that the politicians are doing the right thing that there is actually a lot of disagreement between people and politicians. As much as there is anywhere else at least.
Before Justin took control, Canada had been running a budget surplus for quite some time after Canada was on the brink of collapse from over-spending for so long. Justin ran on a platform of spending again and giving out all the freebies and won. They're nowhere near the asinine spending levels of the US now, but the deficit spending in Canada is rather large now under his leadership.
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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
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Quote:From what I've been reading, the Liberal Party in Canada seems to be like the Communist Party, the Socialist Party, The Marxists, the Progressives, the KKK in USA. But I wasn't able to get enough of the details yet.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I saw a YT video from a youngish guy in Canada. Maybe in his mid-thirties. He went into quite a lot of detail of the history of Canada and Canadian politics and certainly seemed to know what he was talking about.
It sounds like their "New Democratic Party" is nothing like our Democrats here, and their "Conservative Party" is not anything like our Republicans either.
I think the most interesting take away from that video is that their Democrat party (NOT the Liberal Party) is the most Nationalistic party of the bunch.
He also made the point that although the media worldwide seems to laud Canada as really having it together and that everyone in Canada is somehow in agreement that the politicians are doing the right thing that there is actually a lot of disagreement between people and politicians. As much as there is anywhere else at least.
Before Justin took control, Canada had been running a budget surplus for quite some time after Canada was on the brink of collapse from over-spending for so long. Justin ran on a platform of spending again and giving out all the freebies and won. They're nowhere near the asinine spending levels of the US now, but the deficit spending in Canada is rather large now under his leadership.
Are you saying that the New Democrat Party in Canada is more leaning towards the democracy, like Republicans in USA? I do recall something like that equation at some point in the past, but I couldn't recall if that was North America, or UK, or Yurp.
Recently, Conservative Party in Canada blocked legislation regarding the Residential Schools, which would mirror the Democrat Party in USA, being borne of and build upon the eradication of Indians - even before their demands for continued Slavery were exposed.
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I'm only speaking from the "knowledge" I gained by watching a few videos that a guy in Canada who is a super fan of the Simpsons entire run had to say about Canadian politics... But yeah, that seems to be the gist of things on the surface level. Democrats and Conservatives seem to be flipped over there, while the Liberals are like the Twitter SJW's here.
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Quote:Yep, hating Conxervative Party in Canada is the same as hating Libtards in USA.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm only speaking from the "knowledge" I gained by watching a few videos that a guy in Canada who is a super fan of the Simpsons entire run had to say about Canadian politics... But yeah, that seems to be the gist of things on the surface level. Democrats and Conservatives seem to be flipped over there, while the Liberals are like the Twitter SJW's here.
I recall that this "spectrum flip" is present in several nations, particularly Yurp, maybe including UK. Each time I re-learn this, I can't remember which is which for very long.
But what is funny is that citizens from other nations think that their definitions are the only definitions used in the world.
Some seem to think that Democrats in America are pro-democracy rather than the anti-American democracy that they really are.
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It is funny to hear that Democrats and Conservatives are more or less flipped in Canada compared to here. Especially since aside from the French speaking citizens they do speak English and they're right next to us.
I'm sure the situation is a lot more nuanced than two carbon copy clones of our parties with swapped names though.
If you take the SJW "progressives" like A.O.C. and Omar out of the party and give them their own party (the Liberal party), then I probably agree with Canada's version of the Democrat party a lot more than I do our own.
As interesting as it is, I should probably exit this conversation at this point though, since I've already said too much.
I'm basing my opinion of Canada's politics off of my dislike for Tredeau and 45 minutes worth of YouTube videos from a 35 year old, who while he comes off as smart and sure of his analysis, might not know as much as he believes he knows.
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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
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