HR 1: Election Reform Bill
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Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick blasts Hidalgo, Turner as 'liars' in fiery press conference on GOP voting bill
(Republicans can get away with bad behavior because there is not one Democrat in Texas who will fight back, other than with words followed by even more words. Democrats believe words are their strength but every Trumptard knows the Democrats' carefully chosen and lofty words are weakness -- sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. Trumptards never need to think twice about falsely accusing Democrats because there are never consequences other than words:)
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick accused Democrats of “race-baiting” as they fight election bills in the Texas Legislature and said elected officials like Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo and Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner are lying about what the legislation would do.
“Senate Bill 7 is not voter suppression, it's voter security,” Patrick said during a more than 30-minute press conference in which he repeatedly slammed the media, Harris County officials, American Airlines, Democrats including Beto O’Rourke a “nest of liars” for saying the legislation seeks to disenfranchise people of color.
Patrick aimed his criticism at Harris County officials Hidalgo and Turner who have labeled the legislation as a form of voter suppression.
“They’re lying to you,” Patrick said looking into a bank of television cameras.
The back and forth on the Texas voting bill has escalated since last week as major Texas-based businesses including American Airlines, Southwest and Dell have put out statements of concern about it. That resistance comes as businesses and sports leagues including Major League Baseball oppose voting legislation in Georgia pushed by Republicans that similarly has been called an attempt to suppress the vote, particularly in minority communities that vote overwhelmingly in favor of Democrats.
Patrick’s fiery press conference came less than 24 hours after Hidalgo, Turner and other Harris County officials rallied in opposition to the legislation in Houston. At that event, Hidalgo said Republicans had “bought into a conspiracy theory” about widespread voter fraud, which has never been proven to exist.
Turner used similarly pointed rhetoric, labeling the voting bills “Jim Crow 2.0” and “part of a national campaign to restrict people’s right to vote.”
That brought an at-times angry response from Patrick.
“We must stop this race-baiting on every issue,” Patrick said. “Election security is what the public wants.” (What Patrick meant was that Democrats should lose every election because they won't punch him when he lies.)
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Texas-Lt-Gov-D
an-Patrick-unloads-on-nest-of-16081055.php
Patrick’s reaction to the media only got more intense when he was asked if he was going to pay a million-dollar reward to Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, who pointed to three cases of election fraud in that state in the 2020 election. All of the cases were filed against Republicans.
Patrick last year offered up $1 million in reward money for those who uncovered voter fraud in the 2020 election. Since then, Fetterman has insisted his state deserves the money since it documented those three cases.
When asked about Fetterman’s claim on Tuesday, Patrick blasted the reporter who asked the question.
“Don’t ask me stupid questions,” Patrick said. “I didn’t come here to take stupid questions from the media.” Nobody punched Patrick in the face for lying about paying a reward. Why would he pay if not paying has no consequences?
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Anybody promoting HR1 is a liar.
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“I found it completely discouraging to find a bunch of corporate CEOs getting in the middle of politics,” Mitch McConnell said Monday. “My advice to the corporate CEOs of America is to stay out of politics. Don’t pick sides in these big fights.” (The politics are election laws written by Republicans and favoring Republicans' theories about why Trump lost in 2020.)
McConnell said that they “will invite serious consequences if they become a vehicle for far-left mobs to hijack our country.”
Yes, the national leader of the Republican Party threatened the CEOs of American Airlines, Dell, Delta Airlines, Coca-Cola, United Airlines, Dow, HP, Twitter, Estée Lauder, Under Armour, Salesforce, ViacomCBS, Bain and Company, SAP, Fifth Avenue, Etsy, H&M, Weber Shandwick, Instacart, Levis, Microsoft, Morning Star, Mondelez, Pay-Pal, Keurig Dr Pepper and more than 100 other top corporate leaders.
The party that celebrated the Citizens United Supreme Court decision that gave corporations and the wealthy almost unlimited influence over elections is suddenly denouncing business leaders for speaking their minds?
I would prefer to write less about politics and more about economics and industry. But we no longer live in an age where commerce and legislating only intersect a few times a year when the chamber of commerce asks for lower taxes and less regulation.
For decades, the GOP presented itself as the party of free markets. Former Gov. Rick Perry spent most of his time focused on lowering taxes, reducing regulations, and attracting corporate relocations. He was focused on business and liked to say that he didn’t leave the Democratic Party; it left him.
The corporate world is beginning to realize the GOP is leaving them, prioritizing culture wars and power-grab politics that average Americans do not countenance. America’s CEOs would not be so woke if Republicans were more moderate and their consumers less terrified.
More at https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/columnists/tomlinson/article
/Republicans-now-want-business-leaders-out-of-16080834.php
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Wow. That's a hilarious spin.
Meanwhile, in reality, people are realizing that in a world where the multi-national corporations are taking over the planet and leaving the American government all but moot, it's the Republicans that aren't going to suck on the dicks of the corporate CEOs in 2021.
Nobody feels bad for the rich people who just got a talking to. If they feel threatened, that's just amusing to us.
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Quote:The corporations are not amused that the Republicans are changing election laws to win elections for themselves. The corporations don't believe the Republicans' bullshit explanations of why election laws need instantaneous changing because the new laws weren't proposed until after Trump lost an election. Once the unanticipated happened, changing laws became an emergency. 6ix, you were 100% certain Trump would win. Now you are 100% certain the election laws need to change.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Wow. That's a hilarious spin. . . . that's just amusing to us.
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McConnell’s threat to punish corporations opposing GOP election policies is unconstitutional
As the Supreme Court explained in Perry v. Sindermann (1972), “even though a person has no ‘right’ to a valuable governmental benefit and even though the government may deny him the benefit for any number of reasons, there are some reasons upon which the government may not rely.” Among other things, the government “may not deny a benefit to a person on a basis that infringes his constitutionally protected interests — especially, his interest in freedom of speech.”
https://casetext.com/case/perry-v-sindermann-8212-36
The government cannot require anyone to give up their free speech rights in order to receive a benefit
The constitutional rule against stripping someone of a government benefit to control their speech stretches back many decades.
California law gave a property tax exemption to honorably discharged World War II veterans. Yet, in 1954, it revised the form that veterans use to claim this exemption to require those veterans to swear a loyalty oath: “I do not advocate the overthrow of the Government of the United States or of the State of California by force or violence or other unlawful means, nor advocate the support of a foreign government against the United States in event of hostilities.”
After some veterans refused to swear this oath, their refusal wound up in the Supreme Court, and the Court ruled in Speiser v. Randall (1958) that these taxpayers “could not be required to execute the declaration as a condition for obtaining a tax exemption or as a condition for the assessor proceeding further in determining whether they were entitled to such an exemption.”
Speiser was a fairly early articulation of what is known as the “Unconstitutional Conditions Doctrine.” Both Congress and the states provide many benefits to individual citizens that are not required by the Constitution — California is not required to give tax breaks to veterans. But once a benefit is offered, the government may not strip someone of that benefit because they exercise their First Amendment rights.
More at https://www.vox.com/2021/4/7/22370085/mcconnell-cancel-corporations-pu
nish-first-amendment-unconstitutional-delta-georgia-voting-rights
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The corporations are not amused that the Republicans are changing election laws to win elections for themselves.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Wow. That's a hilarious spin. . . . that's just amusing to us.
It's the Democrats who changed election laws before November of 2020, and are trying their damnedest to do so before they lose power in the mid-terms.
You are so full of shit. As always.
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Quote:FIFY.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:It's the Democrats who changed election laws before November of 2020, and are trying their damnedest to do so before they lose power in the mid-terms.
Originally posted by second:Quote:The corporations are not amused that the Republicans are
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Wow. That's a hilarious spin. . . . that's just amusing to us.changingreinforcing, strengthening, securing election laws to win elections forthemselvesLegitimate American Citizens.
You are so full of shit. As always.
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The Big Lie - If voter fraud is an epidemic, why can't Texas find it?
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott declared voter fraud an “epidemic” way back in 2005, when he was still attorney general, and launched a unit to root it out. His successor, Ken Paxton, beefed up his election integrity unit last year, with prosecutors toiling more than 22,000 hours on the taxpayers’ dime hunting for polling improprieties. In November, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick topped them all by dangling a $1 million bounty, payable from his own campaign account, to anyone who came forward with information leading to a voter fraud conviction.
So, if voter fraud is the scourge of our democracy, if it’s capable of stealing a presidential election, as some claim, if it’s widespread enough to qualify for “emergency” status in the state Legislature to ratchet up voting restrictions, then surely, the proof of its magnitude lies in Texas.
After 15 years of looking for election fraud among the 94 million votes cast in Texas elections since 2005, the Texas Attorney General’s office has dutifully prosecuted all of 155 people. Add to that 19 cases cataloged by the conservative Heritage Foundation, which include federal and county prosecutions, and you get a grand total of 174.
That’s not a typo. It’s not 174,000 or 17,400 or even 1,740. It’s 174 little ol’ Texas souls.
Together, they represent .000185 percent of the total votes cast — or 1 in 540,000 voters. Statistically, voters are more likely to get struck by lightning than to be prosecuted for voter fraud.
Alas, most crimes were so minor that only 33 of the 174 perpetrators went to jail, most for less than a year. An analysis of media accounts and the attorney general’s prosecution records obtained by this editorial board through the Texas Public Information Act shows that most cases ended with plea agreements — pre-trial diversion deals or probation. Of the 33 people who were sentenced to any jail time, none were the criminal masterminds conjured up to instill fear in the hearts of freedom-loving Americans.
Some are felons who were not yet eligible to vote again, a few were small-town politicians falsely registering voters, others filled out another person’s absentee ballot. Only five cases — yes, five out of 94 million — involved voter impersonation at the polls, that near-mythic species of voter fraud that launched Texas’ epic battle for a voter ID law.
So, what of the “epidemic” Abbott declared in 2005? A year later, he had rooted out about a dozen people, mostly Black and Latino seniors, accused of assisting others in casting their absentee ballots — a practice that had been largely allowed until 2004.
And what of Paxton’s beefy voter fraud unit and its 22,000 hours, nearly double the time logged on such cases two years earlier? It resolved only 18 minor cases in 2020, all of them Harris County residents who gave false addresses on their voter registration forms.
We can understand why Texas’ top Republicans want to hide that reality, and the true picture of voter fraud in Texas. It isn’t alarming. It isn’t scary. It doesn’t foment the kind of fear and mistrust in the electoral system that Republicans need to push through onerous voting requirements that disproportionately target minorities, who tend to vote Democratic.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20210417090542/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/opinion/editorials/article/Editorial-The-Big-Lie-If-voter-fraud-is-an-16107109.php
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Originally posted by second:
The Big Lie - If voter fraud is an epidemic, why can't Texas find it?
Nor can any other state two. Some claimed it but couldn't prove it in court. As a matter of fact, none of their challenges in court even hinted at that. Why, because knowingly lying in court is illegal. The lawyers would lose their right to practice law. And perhaps worse.
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Unsolicited mail-in ballots are fraud.
Biden* pulled from way behind and won* every one of those states with a razor thin margin days and sometimes weeks after the election should have been over. Pipes magically burst and cleared everyone out, and all sorts of shenanigans occurred.
In-person with Photo ID for everyone except for military and those on hospice, or our elections have the integrity of a Banana Republic.
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Quote:6ix, while you're creating new rules, require proof voters and candidates paid taxes. Non-payment means non-voting. Why should worthless scumbags who don't pay taxes and/or cheat, like you and Trump, have any say in how taxes are spent?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Unsolicited mail-in ballots are fraud.
Biden* pulled from way behind and won* every one of those states with a razor thin margin days and sometimes weeks after the election should have been over. Pipes magically burst and cleared everyone out, and all sorts of shenanigans occurred.
In-person with Photo ID for everyone except for military and those on hospice, or our elections have the integrity of a Banana Republic.
A lot of tax-cheating scumbags are running for office and/or voting:
IRS Chief Says $1 Trillion in Taxes May Go Uncollected Each Year
www.wsj.com/articles/irs-chief-says-1-trillion-in-taxes-may-go-uncolle
ctedeach-year-11618337765
How to Collect $1.4 Trillion in Unpaid Taxes
www.nytimes.com/2021/03/20/opinion/sunday/unpaid-tax-evasion-IRS.html
The IRS says it has a $1 trillion tax cheat problem
https://fortune.com/2021/04/13/tax-evasion-avoidance-irs-us-cryptocurr
ency-offshore-illegal-income-underreporting-taxes-chuck-rettig/
6ix, why are these people allowed to vote?
7,290,000 more results for trillion dollars in taxes not collected 2020
www.google.com/search?q=trillion+dollars+in+taxes+not+collected+2020
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, while you're creating new rules...
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Unsolicited mail-in ballots are fraud.
Biden* pulled from way behind and won* every one of those states with a razor thin margin days and sometimes weeks after the election should have been over. Pipes magically burst and cleared everyone out, and all sorts of shenanigans occurred.
In-person with Photo ID for everyone except for military and those on hospice, or our elections have the integrity of a Banana Republic.
Not new. The way it always was done before Democrats destroyed the election process.
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Quote:Texas history says you are wrong. Here are the details from today's Houston Chronicle:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Not new. The way it always was done before Democrats destroyed the election process.
The Big Lie - Texas has been crying 'election fraud' since it blocked ex-slaves from voting
April 19, 2021
https://web.archive.org/web/20210419120845/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/opinion/editorials/article/Editorial-The-Big-Lie-Texas-has-been-crying-16108616.php
Oh, if only the White Man’s Primary Association of Dimmit County could see us now.
They and all the pioneers of similar all-white political organizations that sprang up in counties across Texas after Reconstruction would see their legacy well-preserved, their cunning strategies of restricting Black and Latino voting access well-heeded.
While they’d probably be flattered to see their protégés still relying on the same pretext they used to suppress minority voting — ‘voter fraud’ — they might wonder why, 100 years later, Texas lawmakers haven’t gotten some new material. And why, after courts have repeatedly debunked the notion of widespread voter fraud, Texans are still falling for it.
But here we are in 2021, with the Texas Senate having just passed SB 7, another attack on ballot access under the guise of “election integrity.” It would ban such threatening practices as voting after 9 p.m., drive-thru voting, and dropping off an absentee ballot in a secure drop box.
For anybody under the impression that President Trump invented the boogeyman of widespread voter fraud, or that maybe Republican strategist Karl Rove dreamed it up after that troubling close call in 2000 between George W. Bush and Al Gore, we’ve got some news for you, and some history.
Texas politicians have been crying voter fraud since at least 1902, when they used it to justify a poll tax. Supporters claimed that charging Black and Mexican-American laborers nearly a whole day’s pay to cast a ballot would make their votes too expensive for their political bosses to buy.
The true intent for the poll tax, according its architect A. W. Terrell, was to “protect the citizen” against “corrupt methods at the polls” and to eliminate “irresponsible voters,” or so he claimed in a 1906 piece published in the Dallas Morning News, headlined “Purity of Ballot.”
For ruling conservatives in this state — first white Democrats, now white Republicans — “voter fraud” is the trusty password that unlocks an arsenal of underhanded, often unconstitutional, tricks to retain political power and keep it out of the hands of those deemed undeserving of a voice and unqualified for a role in governing. Namely, Black and brown folks.
In a chilling exchange cited in the Fifth Circuit’s 2016 opinion on the Texas voter ID law, the court quotes the testimony of Vernon Burton, an historian of the South and race relations, who was asked about Texas’ “stated rationale” for each of its attempts to disenfranchise minority voters.
“What, in your opinion, was the stated rationale for the enactment of all-White primaries in Texas?” an attorney asked.
“The stated rationale was voter fraud,” Burton replied.
And “for the use of secret ballot provisions in Texas?”
“The stated rationale was to prevent voter fraud,” Burton replied.
And “for the use of the poll tax in Texas?”
“The stated rationale by the State was to prevent voter fraud,” Burton replied.
And “for re-registration requirements and voter purges?”
“The stated rationale was voter fraud,” Burton replied.
“Dr. Burton,” the attorney asked, “in your expert opinion, did these devices actually respond to sincere concerns or incidents - incidences of voter fraud?”
“No,” Burton replied.
It’s not that voter fraud didn’t exist in Texas history — it did; see Lyndon Johnson’s 1948 Senate election. But voter fraud in this century is extremely rare: only 174 people have been prosecuted out of 94 million votes since 2005.
And it’s not as if legislative heists of voter rights aren’t
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Why are you posting about Texas, SECODRATE? Isn't this thread about HR1? Which, as far as I can tell, is simply a DNC powergrab to make their one-party rule permanent?
Stick to the topic, because you're famous for conflating one event with another.
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Quote:HR-1 would over-ride Texas voting laws. You obviously misunderstood the point that Texas voting laws since the Civil War were at first designed to keep Republicans (who just so happen to be black) out of power. After the Civil Rights Act was passed by Democrats, Texas voting laws were redesigned to keep Democrats (who just so happen to now be black) out of power.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Why are you posting about Texas, SECODRATE? Isn't this thread about HR1? Which, as far as I can tell, is simply a DNC powergrab to make their one-party rule permanent?
Stick to the topic, because you're famous for conflating one event with another.
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Nah, Second. That's just more of your media buddies and their agenda.
They have no respect for history and want to tear it down and rebuild it.
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Quote:Trumptards in Texas are forever doing what you are doing: rewriting history then claiming they didn't do what they did. I am talking about business, or engineering, or finance. It is always a rewrite and then insisting they are telling the truth while all the evidence says the Trumptard is either hopelessly misinformed or a lying sack of shit. If it is something important, the Trumptard has to be dragged into the boss' office to be scared straight or into court where a judge will knock some sense into their thick skulls.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nah, Second. That's just more of your media buddies and their agenda.
They have no respect for history and want to tear it down and rebuild it.
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Nah. You're explaining what you are doing.
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Quote:And HR1 is OBVIOUSLY designed to keep the DNC in power.
SIGNYM:
Why are you posting about Texas, SECODRATE? Isn't this thread about HR1? Which, as far as I can tell, is simply a DNC powergrab to make their one-party rule permanent?
Stick to the topic, because you're famous for conflating one event with another.
SECONDRATE: HR-1 would over-ride Texas voting laws. You obviously misunderstood the point that Texas voting laws since the Civil War were at first designed to keep Republicans (who just so happen to be black) out of power. ... blah blah blah
Why replace one set of laws with another that's worse, bc it's national?
So, can you come up with a solution to the problems that you see without creating something worse, and without violating the Constitition a national procedure?
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Quote:Is your question rhetorical, to the BLM/Antifags?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:And HR1 is OBVIOUSLY designed to keep the DNC in power.
SIGNYM:
Why are you posting about Texas, SECODRATE? Isn't this thread about HR1? Which, as far as I can tell, is simply a DNC powergrab to make their one-party rule permanent?
Stick to the topic, because you're famous for conflating one event with another.
SECONDRATE: HR-1 would over-ride Texas voting laws. You obviously misunderstood the point that Texas voting laws since the Civil War were at first designed to keep Republicans (who just so happen to be black) out of power. ... blah blah blah
Why replace one set of laws with another that's worse, bc it's national?
So, can you come up with a solution to the problems that you see without creating something worse, and without violating the Constitition a national procedure?
If serious, you will need to define the "problems" you are talking about.
Many Libtards feel that the problem is not enough illiterate, low-information, illogical, irrational, unreasonable, delusional, illegal, criminal residents are wandering down to the polls on Election Day.
I do not agree that that is a problem - that is a natural defense, security for the nation.
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Quote:Tax Cheats in Office?
Originally posted by sloppyseconds:Quote:6ix, while you're creating new rules, require proof voters and candidates paid taxes. Non-payment means non-voting. Why should worthless scumbags who don't pay taxes and/or cheat, like you and Trump, have any say in how taxes are spent?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Unsolicited mail-in ballots are fraud.
Biden* pulled from way behind and won* every one of those states with a razor thin margin days and sometimes weeks after the election should have been over. Pipes magically burst and cleared everyone out, and all sorts of shenanigans occurred.
In-person with Photo ID for everyone except for military and those on hospice, or our elections have the integrity of a Banana Republic.
A lot of tax-cheating scumbags are running for office and/or voting:
You mean like Emperor Lord Darth Obiden, President of the White house basement?
He managed to avoid paying over a HALF A MILLION DOLLARS in taxes, including the Obamacare Taxes that he insist everybody else have confiscated.
https://www.atr.org/heres-what-happened-last-time-biden-promised-not-r
aise-middle-class-taxes
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/06/joe-biden-used-this-strategy-to-trim-h
is-tax-bill-you-can-too.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-the-bidens-dodged-the-payroll-tax-115
97083162
https://www.westernjournal.com/bidens-used-s-corps-avoid-paying-hundre
ds-thousands-payroll-taxes/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/28/joe-biden-allegedly-expl
oited-s-corporation-loophole-to-avoid-paying-medicare-social-security-taxes/
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/did-the-bidens-avoid-paying-nearly
-382k-in-taxes-between-2017-2019/
https://whitehouse.news/2020-10-08-biden-couple-avoided-paying-taxes-s
-corporations.html
https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/30/why-doesnt-anyone-ask-joe-biden-w
hy-hes-dodging-obamacare-taxes/
https://www.atr.org/ten-things-you-need-know-about-bidens-2t-tax-hike
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Quote:Some individuals were charged with 18 counts of voting fraud. 4 criminals were charged with 150 cunts (avg more than 37 counts per criminal).
Originally posted:
The Big Lie -
That’s not a typo. It’s not 174,000 or 17,400 or even 1,740. It’s 174 little ol’ Texas souls.
So your 174 criminals accounted for about 3,500 Fraudulent Votes.
You lies and deception fall flat.
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I heard that Ohio has 100% of votes with paper trail for auditing.
But Big Tech Media is not giving much search results.
https://www.govtech.com/security/Experts-Ohio-Can-Be-Confident-in-its-
Election-Security.html
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A Trumptard has been sentenced to five years of probation after pleading guilty to casting a vote in the name of his deceased mother in an effort to reelect then-President Donald Trump, according to court records and Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer's office.
Bruce Bartman, 70, received the sentence Friday after entering a guilty plea to two counts of perjury and one count of unlawful voting. Bartman will also lose his right to vote for four years, pursuant to Pennsylvania statute.
Bartman explained to the court that he was misled by "propaganda and statements" that were made about voter fraud. "This was his way of misguided political dissent," his lawyer said. Before the election, Trump repeatedly sought to sow doubt about the integrity of the general election and even falsely claimed victory over Joe Biden despite there being no evidence of widespread voter fraud in any US state.
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trump-2020/index.html
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There's widespread evidence of voter fraud in every state that sent out unsolicited mail-in ballots that needed no picture ID to vote.
Every one.
That the Legacy Media lies to you about that fact and you choose to believe it is on you.
You'll figure it out one day when that system is used to steal elections from somebody you wanted to win.
I've lived long enough to see how wildly the tides turn and alliances change. You should know better, old man.
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Trump claimed today a win for himself in New Hampshire. He is waiting for the "great Patriots of Windham, New Hampshire" to prove he won. It just so happens that Windham is NOT looking at the Presidential election. Trump is deliberately lying about the election audit. He writes:
Donald J. Trump, 9:48am May 6, 2021
Congratulations to the great Patriots of Windham, New Hampshire for their incredible fight to seek out the truth on the massive Election Fraud which took place in New Hampshire and the 2020 Presidential Election. The spirit for transparency and justice is being displayed all over the Country by media outlets which do not represent Fake News. People are watching in droves as these Patriots work tirelessly to reveal the real facts of the most tainted and corrupt Election in American history. Congratulations Windham—look forward to seeing the results.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/desk/desk-dqvrd5gscw/
How do I know Trump is lying? Initially, the audit was only going to focus on the Windham state representative results. But the final plan calls for an audit of Windham’s votes for governor and U.S. senator, as well. THERE IS NO AUDIT ON TRUMP'S ELECTION.
While there’s no evidence of fraud or tampering in Windham’s election, conspiracy theorists trying to sow doubt in the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election have latched onto this local legislative race as evidence that the election was compromised in some way. That’s despite a lack of evidence that the issue in Windham is in any way systemic. Right-wing websites and commentators, including some with close ties to former President Trump, have been drumming up outrage over Windham and the process surrounding the audit in recent weeks.
https://www.nhpr.org/post/whats-happening-windhams-election-audit
Trump lost in New Hampshire by
424,921 Biden
365,654 Trump
59,267 Difference
Windham is a town of about 14,000, so if every vote was for Trump, Trump would have still lost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election
_in_New_Hampshire
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Quote:Their lies are quite predictable.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
There's widespread evidence of voter fraud in every state that sent out unsolicited mail-in ballots that needed no picture ID to vote.
Every one.
That the Legacy Media lies to you about that fact and you choose to believe it is on you.
You'll figure it out one day when that system is used to steal elections from somebody you wanted to win.
I've lived long enough to see how wildly the tides turn and alliances change. You should know better, old man.
Once it was "there has never, ever, ever been a single instance of Voting Fraud or Election Theft"
Then is was "we would never, ever commit a single instance of Voting Fraud"
Then "The Voting Fraud we are obviously committing won't be enough to alter the Election"
Then "We will win, so it doesn't matter how much Voting Fraud we perpetrate"
Then "You cannot prove that we perpetrated Voting Fraud and Election Theft when we committed Voting Fraud and Election Theft"
Then "OK, so it is obvious that we committed Voting Fraud and Election Theft, but you cannot prove that it would matter"
Just moving around the goalposts.
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Quote:All 4 of the Republicans had 300 votes subtracted from the town's legitimate votes (total of 1,200 votes taken from the legitimate Republican votes), and the Democrap had an extra 100 votes added to her tally - and that is the "official results"
Originally posted:
Trump claimed today a win for himself in New Hampshire. He is waiting for the "great Patriots of Windham, New Hampshire" to prove he won. It just so happens that Windham is NOT looking at the Presidential election. Trump is deliberately lying about the election audit. He writes:
Donald J. Trump, 9:48am May 6, 2021
Congratulations to the great Patriots of Windham, New Hampshire for their incredible fight to seek out the truth on the massive Election Fraud which took place in New Hampshire and the 2020 Presidential Election. The spirit for transparency and justice is being displayed all over the Country by media outlets which do not represent Fake News. People are watching in droves as these Patriots work tirelessly to reveal the real facts of the most tainted and corrupt Election in American history. Congratulations Windham—look forward to seeing the results.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/desk/desk-dqvrd5gscw/
How do I know Trump is lying? Initially, the audit was only going to focus on the Windham state representative results. But the final plan calls for an audit of Windham’s votes for governor and U.S. senator, as well. THERE IS NO AUDIT ON TRUMP'S ELECTION.
While there’s no evidence of fraud or tampering in Windham’s election, conspiracy theorists trying to sow doubt in the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election have latched onto this local legislative race as evidence that the election was compromised in some way. That’s despite a lack of evidence that the issue in Windham is in any way systemic. Right-wing websites and commentators, including some with close ties to former President Trump, have been drumming up outrage over Windham and the process surrounding the audit in recent weeks.
https://www.nhpr.org/post/whats-happening-windhams-election-audit
Trump lost in New Hampshire by
424,921 Biden
365,654 Trump
59,267 Difference
Quote:
Some people want to find out if there was an issue with the ballot-counting devices used in Windham, especially since those same aging devices are used statewide.
This same discrepancy would equal via extrapolation, in the Democrap (Biden) column, an actual vote of about 414,000 - and in the Republican (Trump) column, an actual vote tally of about 450,000. Meaning Trump won new Hampshire.
Sorry that your Fake Libtard Maths didn't work out for you.
Also, the House race NH-1 only had a margin of 20,000 - meaning that Mowers actually won that race, as well.
NH-2 had a 40,000 margin, and Senate was 124,000 margin.
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Quote:It is excellent that you used quotes around particular phrases to make your points. But when I google your phrases it just so happens that neither the media nor Democrats are saying those phrases. Sadly, it is Trumptards saying those phrases. Perhaps the Trumptards are the ones actually "moving around the goalposts"?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Their lies are quite predictable.
Once it was "there has never, ever, ever been a single instance of Voting Fraud or Election Theft"
Then is was "we would never, ever commit a single instance of Voting Fraud"
Then "The Voting Fraud we are obviously committing won't be enough to alter the Election"
Then "We will win, so it doesn't matter how much Voting Fraud we perpetrate"
Then "You cannot prove that we perpetrated Voting Fraud and Election Theft when we committed Voting Fraud and Election Theft"
Then "OK, so it is obvious that we committed Voting Fraud and Election Theft, but you cannot prove that it would matter"
Just moving around the goalposts.
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Quote:Sorry to correct you, but you got the sign of the numbers backwards: https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/DqPHZ/5/
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
All 4 of the Republicans had 300 votes subtracted from the town's legitimate votes (total of 1,200 votes taken from the legitimate Republican votes), and the Democrap had an extra 100 votes added to her tally - and that is the "official results"Quote:
Some people want to find out if there was an issue with the ballot-counting devices used in Windham, especially since those same aging devices are used statewide.
This same discrepancy would equal via extrapolation, in the Democrap (Biden) column, an actual vote of about 414,000 - and in the Republican (Trump) column, an actual vote tally of about 450,000. Meaning Trump won new Hampshire.
Sory that your Fake Libtard Maths didn't work out for you.
I suspect you will look at the graph and convince yourself you got it right, but you got the pluses and the minuses wrong despite your supersized self-confidence.
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Quote:How insipid are you?
Originally posted:Quote:Sorry to correct you, but you got the sign of the numbers backwards: https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/DqPHZ/5/
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
All 4 of the Republicans had 300 votes subtracted from the town's legitimate votes (total of 1,200 votes taken from the legitimate Republican votes), and the Democrap had an extra 100 votes added to her tally - and that is the "official results"Quote:This same discrepancy would equal via extrapolation, in the Democrap (Biden) column, an actual vote of about 414,000 - and in the Republican (Trump) column, an actual vote tally of about 450,000. Meaning Trump won new Hampshire.
Some people want to find out if there was an issue with the ballot-counting devices used in Windham, especially since those same aging devices are used statewide.
Sorry that your Fake Libtard Maths didn't work out for you.
I suspect you will look at the graph and convince yourself you got it right, but you got the pluses and the minuses wrong despite your supersized self-confidence.
For the Republicans, the actual vote totals (revealed in the recount/audit) returned 300 votes to each of the Republicans which had mysteriously been deleted from the Election Night official counts - and the actual vote totals exposed the 100 fake votes added to the Election Night Democrap tally.
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Arizona’s Republican-Run Election Audit Is Now Looking for Bamboo-Laced “China Ballots”
On Wednesday, a member of the Arizona election audit team that has been heavily touted by former President Donald Trump revealed that its examination of the 2020 vote in Maricopa County will include a “forensic” analysis of ballots to determine if the paper is made of bamboo—in order to determine whether or not China delivered tens of thousands of fraudulent ballots to tip the state to Joe Biden.
If that sounds much too crazy for an audit that was initiated by the Republican-led Arizona Legislature and whose communications are being spearheaded by the Republican former Secretary of State Ken Bennett, it very much is not.
On Wednesday, audit liaison John Brakey told a reporter from the local CBS affiliate in Phoenix that the audit team was checking to see if 40,000 Biden ballots were smuggled into Arizona from Asia by checking the paper’s fiber to try to detect bamboo:
Dennis Welch @dennis_welch
John Brakey, an official helping oversee the audit of the 2020 Arizona election, says auditors are looking for bamboo fibers because of a baseless accusation that 40K ballots from Asia were smuggled here. #AzAuditPool
1:44 PM · May 5, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/dennis_welch/status/1390014544890658819
Dennis Welch @dennis_welch
Here’s the rest of the interview #AzAuditPool
2:09 PM · May 5, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/dennis_welch/status/1390020821230313473
“There’s accusations that 40,000 ballots were flown in and stuffed into the box and it came from the southeast part of the world, Asia. And what they’re doing is to find out if there’s bamboo in the paper,” Brakey told Dennis Welch of CBS5 News.
Welch asked Brakey a series of follow-ups, such as “Why do you check for bamboo?” and “This is part of what you’re looking for?” and he answered that others were searching for the bamboo ballots because “people in Southeast Asia … use bamboo in their paper processing” and “this is part of the mystery that we want to un-gaslight people about.”
Again, is the bamboo analysis truly part of the audit effort? Apparently, it has been from the beginning.
During a press conference for the audit last week, Brakey said what auditors were “looking for is folds in pieces of paper, because there’s a guy who came out and said certain things, that the ballots were stuffed, that we’re going to find bamboo in the paper.”
Bennett, the spokesman for the audit, then confirmed, “We’re evaluating the paper. We’re evaluating the paper.”
Where did this theory—apparently of major concern for the Arizona auditors—that someone in Asia had sent 40,000 ballots to Maricopa County in order to sway the election for Joe Biden and against Donald Trump come from? It appears to have come from an election fraud gadfly named Jovan Pulitzer, who Slate’s Aaron Mak reported earlier this week is supporting the work of the Maricopa audit firm, Cyber Ninjas.
In addition to Pulitzer having claimed to invent a technology that would detect whether a ballot’s ink and folds might indicate forgery, Mak flags that back in December Pulitzer began to espouse a theory that China had imported ballots to tip the election to Biden and that he could detect such malfeasance by uncovering bamboo particles via “a forensic analysis.”
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20210506183227/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2021/05/arizona-republican-audit-bamboo-ballots-china.html
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Their lies are quite predictable.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
There's widespread evidence of voter fraud in every state that sent out unsolicited mail-in ballots that needed no picture ID to vote.
Every one.
That the Legacy Media lies to you about that fact and you choose to believe it is on you.
You'll figure it out one day when that system is used to steal elections from somebody you wanted to win.
I've lived long enough to see how wildly the tides turn and alliances change. You should know better, old man.
Once it was "there has never, ever, ever been a single instance of Voting Fraud or Election Theft"
Then is was "we would never, ever commit a single instance of Voting Fraud"
Then "The Voting Fraud we are obviously committing won't be enough to alter the Election"
Then "We will win, so it doesn't matter how much Voting Fraud we perpetrate"
Then "You cannot prove that we perpetrated Voting Fraud and Election Theft when we committed Voting Fraud and Election Theft"
Then "OK, so it is obvious that we committed Voting Fraud and Election Theft, but you cannot prove that it would matter"
Just moving around the goalposts.
Yup.
And HR1 will never pass.
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Quote:I can practically hear everybody laughing at how insipid you are. Despite your perpetually delusional Maths and the fact that we keep pointing out to you how moronic you are, you continue to double down on stupid just because you cannot process an original thought, and you only intake the Libtard lies that are spoon-fed to lemmings like you, and you still never even see how stupid you are.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:How insipid are you?
Originally posted:Quote:Sorry to correct you, but you got the sign of the numbers backwards: https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/DqPHZ/5/
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
All 4 of the Republicans had 300 votes subtracted from the town's legitimate votes (total of 1,200 votes taken from the legitimate Republican votes), and the Democrap had an extra 100 votes added to her tally - and that is the "official results"Quote:This same discrepancy would equal via extrapolation, in the Democrap (Biden) column, an actual vote of about 414,000 - and in the Republican (Trump) column, an actual vote tally of about 450,000. Meaning Trump won new Hampshire.
Some people want to find out if there was an issue with the ballot-counting devices used in Windham, especially since those same aging devices are used statewide.
Sory that your Fake Libtard Maths didn't work out for you.
I suspect you will look at the graph and convince yourself you got it right, but you got the pluses and the minuses wrong despite your supersized self-confidence.
For the Republicans, the actual vote totals (revealed in the recount/audit) returned 300 votes to each of the Republicans which had mysteriously been deleted from the Election Night official counts - and the actual vote totals exposed the 100 fake votes added to the Election Night Democrap tally.
[img] https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/DqPHZ/5/[/img]
If you did like Mom and Dad Save The World and shot yourself in the head, the average IQ in your town would spike up.
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In a country with such recent history of political violence, imagine how much worse things would be if the donors to every cause had to consider what their opponents might do to them when their support was made public? Imagine how many people would be shamed and silenced, and how many more would silence themselves. Imagine how much harder it would be to find consensus, tackle America’s biggest challenges, and move the country forward. If this happens in 2021, there’s no telling how much progress we’ll be missing in years to come.
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How The Republican Push To Restrict Voting Could Affect Our Elections
Quote:https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-the-republican-push-to-restri
the V-Dem Institute at the University of Gothenburg in Sweden released data last year aggregating political scientists’ measures of the democratic commitment of political parties around the world. As the chart below shows, in the U.S., the GOP has moved entirely in the wrong direction over the past half century.
ct-voting-could-affect-our-elections/
Chart of the Day: Fox News, Republicans, and the Destruction of Democracy
https://jabberwocking.com/chart-of-the-day-fox-news-republicans-and-th
e-destruction-of-democracy/
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Are we still talking about this bill that is never going to pass then?
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Quote:Goodness gracious! A chart showing Americans are waking up to the Libtard Fake News apparatus???
Originally bot posted:
https://jabberwocking.com/chart-of-the-day-fox-news-republicans-and-th
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Say it isn't so.
BTW, that graph ended in 2018.
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Republicans in the Texas Senate muscled one of the most restrictive voting measures in the US to the cusp of law on Sunday, after rushing the legislation to the floor in the middle of the night.
The sweeping measure, Senate Bill 7 or SB7, passed on party lines around 6am, after eight hours of questioning by Democrats who have virtually no path to stop it. The bill must still clear a final vote in the Texas House later on Sunday in order to reach Governor Greg Abbott, who is expected to sign it.
Michael McCaul, a senior US House Republican, told CNN he thought the law in his native Texas “may be more of an optics issue, restoring confidence with with the American people. In my state you actually do believe that there was tremendous fraud.”
There was not: Texas has only one pending case of possible voter fraud arising from the 2020 election. Nonetheless it is the last big battleground in Republican efforts to tighten voting laws, driven by Donald Trump’s lie that the presidential election was stolen.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/30/texas-republicans-sb7-restrict
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The fraud mail-in election was fraud.
No election is legitimate until there is voter ID required for every single vote counted.
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Republicans in the Texas Senate muscled one of the mostrestrictiveSecurity restorative voting measures in the US to the cusp of law on Sunday, after rushing the legislation to the floor in the middle of the night.
The sweeping measure, Senate Bill 7 or SB7, passed on party lines around 6am, after eight hours of questioning by Democrats who have virtually no path to stop it. The bill must still clear a final vote in the Texas House later on Sunday in order to reach Governor Greg Abbott, who is expected to sign it.
Michael McCaul, a senior US House Republican, told CNN he thought the law in his native Texas “may be more of an optics issue, restoring confidence with with the American people. In my state you actually do believe that there was tremendous fraud.”
Texas has a pending case of possible voter fraud arising from the 2020 election.
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Quote:I've voted by mail, let's see, since I was working in Saudi Arabia. I'd say your refusal to accept mail-in votes is an unacceptable limitation.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The fraud mail-in election was fraud.
No election is legitimate until there is voter ID required for every single vote counted.
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Quote:You lied, Trumptard, and it only took 4 letters and no punctuation. You are a very efficient liar.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
FIFY
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I've voted by mail, let's see, since I was working in Saudi Arabia. I'd say your refusal to accept mail-in votes is an unacceptable limitation.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The fraud mail-in election was fraud.
No election is legitimate until there is voter ID required for every single vote counted.
Do not attempt to conflate absentee ballots with unsolicited mail-in fraud ballots.
I'm not an idiot like your fellow Democrat voters.
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Texas Republicans’ push to enact a slew of new voting restrictions was stymied in the final hours before a midnight deadline. Democrats left the chamber at about 10:45 p.m. The House did not have the 100 members necessary for a quorum and adjourned.
www.cnn.com/2021/05/31/politics/texas-voting-rights-bill-sb7-house-adj
ourned-no-quorum/index.html
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"Stymie" in this case referring to the hindrance of the inevitable and rational process rather than the prevention of said inevitable and rational process.
That's the problem with using big words, CNN. Most of your audience doesn't actually know the definitions of words and aren't even aware of the fact that many words have more than one.
Here's a reenactment of Texas Democrats last night.
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Quote:Gosh, the bot is trying so hard to conflate the terms, just like his Libtard seminars taught him to do. You are just being impolite and raining on his parade of Libtard delusions by pointing out Facts and Truth.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:Do not attempt to conflate absentee ballots with unsolicited mail-in fraud ballots.
Originally bot posted:Quote:I've voted by mail, let's see, since I was working in Saudi Arabia. I'd say your refusal to accept mail-in votes is an unacceptable limitation.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The fraud mail-in election was fraud.
No election is legitimate until there is voter ID required for every single vote counted.
I'm not an idiot like your fellow Democrat voters.
Alternately, it is possible the bot is illiterate and really does not understand simple English terms.
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Nah. Communistbot is Communist.
It is "aware" enough to know what it was programmed to do.
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Quote:CNN wrote: Republican Gov. Greg Abbott tweeted Sunday night that he is adding “election integrity” to a list of topics lawmakers will address in a special session he plans to call.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
"Stymie" in this case referring to the hindrance of the inevitable and rational process rather than the prevention of said inevitable and rational process.
That's the problem with using big words, CNN. Most of your audience doesn't actually know the definitions of words and aren't even aware of the fact that many words have more than one.
http://www.cnn.com/2021/05/31/politics/texas-voting-rights-bill-sb7-ho
use-adjourned-no-quorum/index.html
“Election integrity” has a double meaning. Texas already had the most voting restrictions in the country before this bill adding more “election integrity”.
Analysis: It's harder to vote in Texas than in any other state
Voting laws in Texas are the most restrictive in the country. And voter turnout here is among the lowest, too. Maybe those facts are related. Oct. 19, 2020
www.texastribune.org/2020/10/19/texas-voting-elections/
Oct 28, 2020 — A new study from Northern Illinois University finds Texas has the most restrictive voting laws in the country.
www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/election-2020/2020/1
0/28/384854/voter-suppression-blunts-historic-turnout-in-texas/
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Anybody with a below average IQ probably shouldn't vote.
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Quote:How will you measure who is too stupid to vote? If You’re So Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich? looks at the idea that personality, not intelligence, has a larger effect on success than IQ.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Anybody with a below average IQ probably shouldn't vote.
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How will you measure who is too stupid to vote?
I didn't say anyone should be barred from voting. I'm merely suggesting it's not the worst idea in the world that there are a few hoops to jump through before you do is all.
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If You’re So Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich? looks at the idea that personality, not intelligence, has a larger effect on success than IQ.
The two sentences above are a question and answer to yourself, dummy.
How does one truly measure success? You put far too much value on stacks of cash and believing this somehow adds to happiness. Beyond 6 months to a year of a rainy-day fund, only stupid people need more money than is necessary for comfortable living and no worries about where food is coming from.
And I've got way more than that. I could make it 1/3rd of the way to that first Social Security check without earning another paycheck right now. If I sold my house and downsized by my brother like I want to, I probably don't ever have to work for somebody another day in my life.
It's not at all about how much money you made. It's what you do with it.
No wife, no ex, no kids, no responsibilities, no obligations, no rent, no mortgage, no college debt, no expensive wedding to pay for, no car payment... Hell... I don't even have a cell phone contract.
I'm 41 years old and I've paid less than $125 in interest in my entire life.
I've gotten 30 times that interest back in credit card rewards in that time frame.
Hell... I don't gamble, but the few times I went with friends back in the day leave me up on The House by at least $200. So that covers my interest right there.
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Quote:6ix, you perfectly encapsulated how Trumptards think small. Fifty years ago, the few surviving Trumptards I knew from high school all complained that Apollo Moon landings (controlled by Johnson Space Center in Houston) were a waste of money. The Superconducting Super Collider being built in Texas? According to Trumptards, it was another waste of money. You Trumptards are not psychologically ready to build projects bigger than your tiny needs. Plus, 6ix, you once again beautifully wrote about your superiority complex, a syndrome that Trumptards are afflicted with.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Hell...
The Supercollider That Never Was
On October 21, 1993, Congress officially killed the project, leaving behind more than vacant tunnel in the Texas earth.
www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-supercollider-that-never-was/
A superiority complex is a defense mechanism that develops over time to help a person cope with painful feelings of inferiority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex
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Texas Republicans have a simple reason for the broad changes they have proposed to tighten the rules on who can vote when and how: It's the only way to combat rampant election fraud.
No matter what Trump says, there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud in modern American elections. Like, none.
Trump administration Attorney General Bill Barr late last year: "To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election."
The man who succeeded Barr in the job -- acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen -- said the same in testimony to Congress in May: "During my tenure, DOJ maintained the position publicly announced previously that the Department had been presented with no evidence of widespread voter fraud at a scale sufficient to change the outcome of the 2020 election."
Trump and his legal team filed dozens of cases -- in state and federal courts -- alleging widespread voter fraud. And lost the cases.
Recounts and audits in a variety of states affirmed the original results.
In the 2016 presidential election, there were a total of four documented cases of voter fraud out of more than 135 million votes cast.
In a database of all types of election fraud, there have been 491 cases of reported absentee-ballot fraud since 2000.
Against all of that evidence and data is, well, not much other than Trump's wild accusations and the occasional anecdotal story about how some guy voted twice for Trump.
There's an important point to be made here: An isolated incident of someone voting twice (or trying to) is NOT widespread voter fraud. It is one person acting irresponsibly.
So why are Republicans across the country -- 14 states have passed almost two dozen laws aimed at restricting voting access -- pushing so hard on this issue if it's not to solve the nonexistent problem of widespread voter fraud?
Republican leaders have acknowledged that more voters voting is bad for them. In 2019, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell dismissed the idea of a making Election Day a holiday as a "power grab" by Democrats. In March 2020 Trump told Fox & Friends this: "They had levels of voting, that if you ever agreed to it you'd never have a Republican elected in this country again."
So, yeah. When people tell you who they are and what they are doing believe them -- the first time.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/01/politics/texas-election-law-election-se
curity/index.html
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you perfectly encapsulated how Trumptards think small. Fifty years ago, the few surviving Trumptards I knew from high school all complained that Apollo Moon landings (controlled by Johnson Space Center in Houston) were a waste of money. The Superconducting Super Collider being built in Texas? According to Trumptards, it was another waste of money. You Trumptards are not psychologically ready to build projects bigger than your tiny needs. Plus, 6ix, you once again beautifully wrote about your superiority complex, a syndrome that Trumptards are afflicted with.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Hell...
Everything you've ever posted about yourself is a lie.
I'm not ambitious. I don't have to be. I'm completely content just being awesome.
It really sucks knowing how unfulfilling your life is, and how you put such a high value on meaningless wealth that you'll never accumulate.
I actually feel sad for you.
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Quote:I am happy for you: Trump Has Reportedly Been Telling People He’s Going to Be President Again by August (Or Has Fully Descended Into Madness)
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Everything you've ever posted about yourself is a lie.
I'm not ambitious. I don't have to be. I'm completely content just being awesome.
It really sucks knowing how unfulfilling your life is, and how you put such a high value on meaningless wealth that you'll never accumulate.
I actually feel sad for you.
National security adviser Michael Flynn — who Trump pardoned in the waning days of his presidency — declared at a Dallas event on Sunday that a Myanmar-style coup “should happen here” in the United States. (He later claimed that his words had been “twisted.”)
www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/donald-trump-august-reinstatement
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Quote:But the Courts kept punting them - ruling that the cases were too early, because the fraud was before the election results - and then the cases were too late, because the Fake Elec tion Fake Results were already announced
Originally bot posted:
Texas Republicans have a simple reason for the broad changes they have proposed to tighten the rules on who can vote when and how: It's the only way to combat rampant election fraud.
Trump and his legal team filed dozens of cases -- in state and federal courts -- alleging widespread voter fraud.
Quote:Since the bot is in Russia or Vietnam, he doesn't know about the recent convictions in Texas of people voting twice.
In the 2016 presidential election, there were a total of four documented cases of voter fraud out of more than 135 million votes cast.
In a database of all types of election fraud, there have been 491 cases of reported absentee-ballot fraud since 2000.
Against all of that evidence and data is, well, not much other than Trump's wild accusations and the occasional anecdotal story about how some guy voted twice for Trump.
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So why are Republicans across the country -- 14 states have passed almost two dozen laws aimed atrestricting voting accessRestoring Election integrity, security, confidence, honesty -- pushing so hard on this issue ....
Republican leaders have acknowledged that more low-information, illegal, fraudulent, criminal, brainwashed, delusional, multiple voters voting is bad for them. In 2019, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell dismissed the idea of a making Election Day a holiday as a "power grab" by Democrats.
I keep hearing that not one single case of a Voter being denied the right to vote as a violation of the Civil Rights Act or Voting Rights Act of the 1960s has ever been proven in court. And yet this is the only excuse Libtards and other Democraps can dream up to circumvent The Constitution (until covid Lockdowns gave them a better avenue).
Meanwhile, Libtards dismiss genuine concerns by conservatives and Constitutionalists because they claim there could not possibly ever be any instance or an illegal vote.
errr, that is, there has never actually been a case of an illegal vote.
errr, that is, there has never been more than one case of an illegal vote.
errr, that is, there has never been many cases of illegal or fraudulent voting.
errr, that is, there has never been any case of illegal voting effecting the election outcome.
err, that is, you can't catch us doing it.
errr, that is, you can't prove it.
errr, that is, you can't prove all of the overwhelming cases of us perpetrating fraud and illegal voting.
errr, that is, you can't prove it enough.
errr, that is, you can't prove it in time.
That's it. That's the ticket.
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Quote:Trump says Republicans would never be elected again if it was easier to vote. That's it. That's the ticket, JewelStaiteFan.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
That's it. That's the ticket.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/trump-republican-party-voting-
reform-coronavirus
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Georgia and Arizona are already working on their own voting reform bills.
The Constitution clearly gives states the right to decide how to conduct their voting. I would expect to see a Supreme Court challenge to many aspects of HR1.
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Quote:The states litigated this before and the states lost because the states did not want ex-slaves to vote. From HR-1:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Georgia and Arizona are already working on their own voting reform bills.
The Constitution clearly gives states the right to decide how to conduct their voting. I would expect to see a Supreme Court challenge to many aspects of HR1.
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-H70
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(1) Congress finds that it has broad authority to regulate the time, place, and manner of congressional elections under the Elections Clause of the Constitution, article I, section 4, clause 1. The Supreme Court has affirmed that the “substantive scope” of the Elections Clause is “broad”; that “Times, Places, and Manner” are “comprehensive words which embrace authority to provide for a complete code for congressional elections”; and “[t]he power of Congress over the Times, Places and Manner of congressional elections is paramount, and may be exercised at any time, and to any extent which it deems expedient; and so far as it is exercised, and no farther, the regulations effected supersede those of the State which are inconsistent therewith”. Arizona v. Inter Tribal Council of Arizona, 570 U.S. 1, 8–9 (2013) (internal quotation marks and citations omitted). Indeed, “Congress has plenary and paramount jurisdiction over the whole subject” of congressional elections, Ex parte Siebold, 100 U.S. (10 Otto) 371, 388 (1879), and this power “may be exercised as and when Congress sees fit”, and “so far as it extends and conflicts with the regulations of the State, necessarily supersedes them”. Id. At 384. Among other things, Congress finds that the Elections Clause was intended to “vindicate the people’s right to equality of representation in the House”. Wesberry v. Sanders, 376 U.S. 1, 16 (1964), and to address partisan gerrymandering, Rucho v. Common Cause, 588 U.S. ____, 32–33 (2019).
(2) Congress also finds that it has both the authority and responsibility, as the legislative body for the United States, to fulfill the promise of article IV, section 4, of the Constitution, which states: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government[.]”. Congress finds that its authority and responsibility to enforce the Guarantee Clause is particularly strong given that Federal courts have not enforced this clause because they understood that its enforcement is committed to Congress by the Constitution.
(3) (A) Congress also finds that it has broad authority pursuant to section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment to legislate to enforce the provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment, including its protections of the right to vote and the democratic process.
There is plenty more exploitation in HR-1, but I expect Trumptards to neither read nor understand the law. Instead, the Trumptards will continue to scream that the states have rights to stop Niggers and Libtards from Voting (but those rights don't exist except in the imaginations of Trumptards).
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Anybody keeping count how many time's Second's used that word?
Try using that word on Twitter, buddy. I'm sure once you let them know that you're an "ally" that it will be cool.
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I am happy for you
That's nice. I still feel sad for you though.
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Quote:It is really about what Trump said: Republicans would never be elected again if it was easier to vote. That is the real motivation for all the new Trumptard voting laws. Stop lying once in while, Trumptards, about why you do what you do. Trumptards for Trump should proudly show your racism, your fearfulness, and your habitual dishonesty. And while you are it, cheat on your taxes; Trump would.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Anybody keeping count how many time's Second's used that word?
Try using that word on Twitter, buddy. I'm sure once you let them know that you're an "ally" that it will be cool.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/trump-republican-party-voting-
reform-coronavirus
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It is really about what Trump said
No. No it's not.
It's really about what you said.
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Trump was hellbent on getting election administrators to recount the 2020 vote until they could figure out a way to declare him the winner, but they unanimously refused to do it. Now, Republicans are working to make sure that they can eject future election administrators who don't play ball.
Yesterday's letter from a hundred political scientists is clear about what's happening:
Statutory changes in large key electoral battleground states are dangerously politicizing the process of electoral administration, with Republican-controlled legislatures giving themselves the power to override electoral outcomes on unproven allegations should Democrats win more votes.
www.newamerica.org/political-reform/statements/statement-of-concern/
Republican legislatures are giving themselves the power to remove election administrators after the election is over and replace them with faithful party operatives. The replacement Republican officials, unlike the ones we saw standing up to Trump's pressure in 2020, are going to decline to certify Democratic victories. If Republicans hold the House, Senate, or both after the 2024 election, that could allow Congress to install a GOP president even if the Democrat won.
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Democrats lost in 2020.
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Quote:Trump and you think very much alike: Trump advisors say the former president is so obsessed with fighting the 2020 election that telling him he lost is like 'p------ into the wind'
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Democrats lost in 2020.
Nearly all the 2020 election advisors said they regarded his fixation on litigating the election as a waste of time, but that he kept returning to the topic nonetheless.
When advisors leave challenging the 2020 election out of their drafts for his speeches, he goes off-script, ad-libbing about the count in various states.
Trump has been energized by the ongoing election audit in Maricopa County, Arizona, and is trying to work out how to secure similar efforts in states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire and Georgia. Trump met with Pennsylvania GOP State Senator Doug Mastriano at Trump Tower recently over the question of a recount in the state.
More at www.businessinsider.com/trump-wont-listen-advisors-who-say-he-lost-rep
ort-2021-6
I hope Trump raises a HUGE army commanded by a General most similar to Robert E. Lee, General Michael T. Flynn, to take back the White House. And I hope Joe Biden responses with regret and ferocity, much the same as General Sherman marching through Georgia, killing prototypical Trumptards, but with the expressed approval of Abe Lincoln.
What violent schemes might the Trumptard cult energetically complete before the Nov. 2024 election? More at Donald Trump is an idea, not a man — and that's why his movement is so dangerous
www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/donald-trump-is-an-idea-not-a-man-and-t
hat-s-why-his-movement-is-so-dangerous/ar-AAKFfOU
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Democrats lost in 2020.
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Quote:It’s Confirmed: 6ix and Donald Trump Are Clinically Delusional
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Democrats lost in 2020.
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Does Donald Trump really believe that he will be "reinstated" as president by August? Charles Cooke confirms that the original reporting about this was correct:
I can attest, from speaking to an array of different sources, that Donald Trump does indeed believe quite genuinely that he — along with former senators David Perdue and Martha McSally — will be “reinstated” to office this summer after “audits” of the 2020 elections in Arizona, Georgia, and a handful of other states have been completed. I can attest, too, that Trump is trying hard to recruit journalists, politicians, and other influential figures to promulgate this belief — not as a fundraising tool or an infantile bit of trolling or a trial balloon, but as a fact.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the hero of the Republican Party, the man that everyone fears to cross. And the fact that he's obviously delusional? Apparently that just doesn't matter much.
https://jabberwocking.com/its-confirmed-donald-trump-is-clinically-del
usional/
Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, tweeted:
https://twitter.com/MichaelCohen212/status/1400400660495994882
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Democrats lost in 2020.
P.S. HR1 will never pass.
Never.
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Donald Trump’s speech before the North Carolina Republican Party Saturday night was a reminder of the danger the former President poses as he undermines America’s election system.
At a time when online forums supportive of Trump have touted the deadly military coup in Myanmar as a remedy that should occur in the United States so Trump can be reinstated, recent polling shows that a majority of Republicans believe the 2020 election was stolen despite the fact there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
And the former President continued to fan those flames of disinformation on Saturday night, stating that the 2020 election will “go down as the crime of the century.”
“We’re not going to have a country – if you don’t have election integrity, and if you don’t have strong borders, our country can be run like a dictatorship and that’s what they’d like to do,” Trump said. “They want to silence you. They want to silence your voice. Remember, I’m not the one trying to undermine American democracy. I’m the one that’s trying to save it.”
The former President also praised states like Texas, Florida and Georgia that have advanced laws making it harder for Americans to vote – measures that will disproportionately affect Black and Latino Americans.
More at www.cnn.com/2021/06/06/politics/trump-election-lies-north-carolina/ind
ex.html
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Donald Trump’s speech before the North Carolina Republican Party Saturday night was a reminder of the danger the former President poses as he undermines America’s election system.
Translation: Censoring him online isn't enough. He must be deleted.
Seriously dude. Get out of my country.
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Quote:Trump is telling people he thinks he'll be 'reinstated' as president in August
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump’s speech before the North Carolina Republican Party Saturday night was a reminder of the danger the former President poses as he undermines America’s election system.
Translation: Censoring him online isn't enough. He must be deleted.
Seriously dude. Get out of my country.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20210604022314/https://www.businessinsider
.com/trump-expects-to-be-reinstated-as-president-august-2021-6
I do hope that Trump's followers attempt, as they talk about, placing him back in the White House before 2024. That might, or might not, alert the so-called Independent voters that Trump wants to be President-for-Life. Maybe the Independent voters will realize that voting for Trump in 2024 might not be smart, unless the Independents think Trump did a good job. In that case, the Independents weren't truly Independents, but really just ordinary Trumptards.
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He never posted on his blog that he was going to be reinstated in August.
An since social media censored him, he's not saying it there either.
Your sources are full of shit.
I will happily vote for him again in 2024.
By that time, after the Democrats lose the house and senate and the illegal cheating election systems put in place last year will go to the Supreme Court and be thrown out.
Enjoy your fake President. You've got 3 more years.
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Quote:Seven Republicans joined every Democrat to declare Trump guilty on the charge of “incitement of insurrection” after his months-long quest to overturn his defeat by Joe Biden and its deadly conclusion on 6 January, when Congress met to formalize the election results. The 57-43 vote was most bipartisan support for conviction ever in a presidential impeachment trial. Trump knows if he runs his mouth in public as he did on Jan 6th, but gives a date when he overthrows the election, it is treason. What is highly amusing to me about the American court system is that even Confederate President Jeff Davis could NOT be put on trial for treason. Since he might be declared innocent, there was no trial. It is completely bizarre history that Jeff Davis went free after what he did:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He never posted on his blog that he was going to be reinstated in August.
An since social media censored him, he's not saying it there either.
Your sources are full of shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Davis#Imprisonment
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WHEW!
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Manchin to Vote Against Democrats’ Sweeping Election Bill
By Allen Zhong
June 6, 2021 Updated: June 6, 2021
Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said he will vote against a sweeping election reform bill pushed by his Democrat colleagues, also known as the For The People Act, or S.1, saying forcing it through via the partisan reconciliation process will further deepen divisions.
“I believe that partisan voting legislation will destroy the already weakening binds of our democracy, and for that reason, I will vote against the For the People Act,” he wrote in home-state newspaper The Charleston Gazette-Mail.
Manchin also reaffirmed that he will not vote to weaken or eliminate the filibuster.
He criticized Democrats and Republicans for politicizing election reform to seek partisan advantage and urged both sides to work along to find a path forward.
He suggested that the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act is a good starting point to gain bipartisan support for election reform.
The senator also expressed concern over the trend of vying for absolute power over cooperation inside the Beltway.
“It has been said by much wiser people than me that absolute power corrupts absolutely,” he wrote. “Well, what I’ve seen during my time in Washington is that every party in power will always want to exercise absolute power, absolutely.”
After a contentious 2020 election, a number of states started election reform legislature in various forms to guarantee election integrity.
However, Democrats in Washington are aggressively pushing one-sided election reforms in an attempt to codify into law some operations conducted during the last presidential election at the federal level in the For The People Act.
The act would federalize components of the election system, eliminating nearly all requirements for photo identification, require states to offer 15 days of early voting, allow “no-excuse” absentee balloting, require states to implement a system of automatic voter registration, and allow same-day registration on any day voting is allowed.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) told Democrat colleagues in a memorandum that he will force a Senate vote on the sweeping election reform bill “that is essential to defending our democracy, reducing the influence of dark money and powerful special interests, and stopping the wave of Republican voter suppression happening in states across the country.”
The bill is expected to get little, if any, support from the Republican side.
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has promised to block the bill, which he characterizes as undue government overreach into state election systems. He said no GOP senators support it.
Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) has described the bill as “a massive federal takeover of elections.”
Manchin’s objection will dim Democrats’ hope of passing it in the Senate, which is split 50-50, even without the filibuster.
The Epoch Times reached out to Schumer’s officer for comment.
The House version of the For The People Act, H.R. 1, was passed in March.
All Republicans and one Democrat, Rep. Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.), voted against the bill.
Critics have promised to bring a flood of lawsuits if it’s passed by the Senate and signed into law by President Joe Biden.
“There are a number of constitutional infirmities and deficiencies that stem from its treatment of presidential and congressional elections identically, even though Congress has vastly reduced powers to regulate presidential elections under the Constitution,” Jason Snead, executive director of the Honest Elections Project, told reporters.
The Associated Press contributed to the report.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/manchin-to-vote-against
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I hope he hangs tough.
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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Quote:I hope so, too.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I hope he hangs tough.
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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
If not, we'll have to depend on Senate republicans signalling their intention to filibuster, and that may be an iffy option.
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Quote:By refusing to get rid of the filibuster, Manchin allows Republicans to not negotiate. By taking the filibuster off the table, he empowers Republicans to be obstructionists. Manchin said he doesn’t agree with that point of view because there are “seven brave Republicans that continue to vote for what they know is right and the facts as they see them, not worrying about the political consequences.” Seven Republicans voted to convict former President Donald Trump of "incitement of insurrection". Manchin did NOT note that Trump is running free and saying Democrats stole his reelection and committed the crime of the century. Does Manchin think, because of his comment that absolute power corrupts absolutely, the Democrats stole Trump’s election? That would explain Manchin's opposition to HR 1.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I hope he hangs tough.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/video-chris-wallace-confro
nts-joe-manchin-naive.html
www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-o
f-the-united-states-of-america-05.15.21
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By maintaining the filibuster, Manchin a is REQUIRING the majority - whoever that is- to negotiate with the minority.
Without it, the majority- whoever that is- can ramrod thru anything they want. Without negotiating.
Be careful what you wish for, especially when you're filled with hate, SECONDRATE. Hate warps logic and causes bad decisions. The Dems will be in the minority at some point, and then they could be hoist on their own petard.
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Quote:Signym, you gave a perfect example of up is down with your explanation of the filibuster. Kudos for explaining nothing correctly, Signym. Since WWII the Senate has never been able to bring itself to vote for or against a Declaration of War. A Declaration is a constitutional duty of Congress, but Congress has not performed that duty since 1942. Did Senate indecision stop America from going to new wars? Another way of saying it -- did indecision lead to peace? The Senate not making decisions because of filibusters or because of fearful, irresponsible politicians such as Joe Manchin, who is only pretending to know what he is doing, has caused America to malfunction many times over the centuries and fall into wars. We will very likely fall into another war if Manchin stubbornly forces no decision to be made.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
By maintaining the filibuster, Manchin a is REQUIRING the majority - whoever that is- to negotiate with the minority.
Without it, the majority- whoever that is- can ramrod thru anything they want. Without negotiating.
Be careful what you wish for, especially when you're filled with hate, SECONDRATE. Hate warps logic and causes bad decisions. The Dems will be in the minority at some point, and then they could be hoist on their own petard.
By the way, Signym, is the 2020 election the Crime of the Century as Trump claims and the true justification for NOT passing HR 1? It explains all the difference in opinion between D's and R's whether Democrats stole the White House or whether Trump incited an insurrection to stop V.P. Mike Pence from certifying the Democrats won. Or would you rather be indecisive and not say, Signym?
History Briefing: Filibuster and Cloture
www.senate.gov/reference/reference_index_subjects/Cloture_vrd.htm
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Quote:When does one negotiate? When faced with an opponent of approximately equal power. But in a system of rabid partisanship, when all party members vote in lock step, there is no approximate equal power, no negotiation, there is only the majority and the minority.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
By maintaining the filibuster, Manchin a is REQUIRING the majority - whoever that is- to negotiate with the minority.
Without it, the majority- whoever that is- can ramrod thru anything they want. Without negotiating.
Be careful what you wish for, especially when you're filled with hate, SECONDRATE. Hate warps logic and causes bad decisions. The Dems will be in the minority at some point, and then they could be hoist on their own petard.
SECONDRATE: Signym, you gave a perfect example of up is down with your explanation of the filibuster.
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SECONDRATE: blah blah blah while I attempt to conflate declarations of war with a naked Democrat power grab
Thank you for splattering the board with more of your twisted brain.
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It's like talking to a child. A really dumb child.
It's a rare occasion that I can't visualize myself in somebody else's shoes, but after years of dealing with Second I've finally realized that my imagination is not capable of allowing myself even pretend for a moment to be as stupid as you'd need to be to hold a conversation with him.
I'd honestly get much further trying to have a conversation with somebody who only speaks Chinese without an interpreter in the room.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
WHEW!Quote:
Manchin to Vote Against Democrats’ Sweeping Election Bill
By Allen Zhong
June 6, 2021 Updated: June 6, 2021
Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said he will vote against a sweeping election reform bill pushed by his Democrat colleagues, also known as the For The People Act, or S.1, saying forcing it through via the partisan reconciliation process will further deepen divisions.
“I believe that partisan voting legislation will destroy the already weakening binds of our democracy, and for that reason, I will vote against the For the People Act,” he wrote in home-state newspaper The Charleston Gazette-Mail.
Manchin also reaffirmed that he will not vote to weaken or eliminate the filibuster.
He criticized Democrats and Republicans for politicizing election reform to seek partisan advantage and urged both sides to work along to find a path forward.
He suggested that the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act is a good starting point to gain bipartisan support for election reform.
The senator also expressed concern over the trend of vying for absolute power over cooperation inside the Beltway.
“It has been said by much wiser people than me that absolute power corrupts absolutely,” he wrote. “Well, what I’ve seen during my time in Washington is that every party in power will always want to exercise absolute power, absolutely.”
After a contentious 2020 election, a number of states started election reform legislature in various forms to guarantee election integrity.
However, Democrats in Washington are aggressively pushing one-sided election reforms in an attempt to codify into law some operations conducted during the last presidential election at the federal level in the For The People Act.
The act would federalize components of the election system, eliminating nearly all requirements for photo identification, require states to offer 15 days of early voting, allow “no-excuse” absentee balloting, require states to implement a system of automatic voter registration, and allow same-day registration on any day voting is allowed.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) told Democrat colleagues in a memorandum that he will force a Senate vote on the sweeping election reform bill “that is essential to defending our democracy, reducing the influence of dark money and powerful special interests, and stopping the wave of Republican voter suppression happening in states across the country.”
The bill is expected to get little, if any, support from the Republican side.
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has promised to block the bill, which he characterizes as undue government overreach into state election systems. He said no GOP senators support it.
Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) has described the bill as “a massive federal takeover of elections.”
Manchin’s objection will dim Democrats’ hope of passing it in the Senate, which is split 50-50, even without the filibuster.
The Epoch Times reached out to Schumer’s officer for comment.
The House version of the For The People Act, H.R. 1, was passed in March.
All Republicans and one Democrat, Rep. Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.), voted against the bill.
Critics have promised to bring a flood of lawsuits if it’s passed by the Senate and signed into law by President Joe Biden.
“There are a number of constitutional infirmities and deficiencies that stem from its treatment of presidential and congressional elections identically, even though Congress has vastly reduced powers to regulate presidential elections under the Constitution,” Jason Snead, executive director of the Honest Elections Project, told reporters.
The Associated Press contributed to the report.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's like talking to a child. A really dumb child.
It's a rare occasion that I can't visualize myself in somebody else's shoes, but after years of dealing with Second I've finally realized that my imagination is not capable of allowing myself even pretend for a moment to be as stupid as you'd need to be to hold a conversation with him.
I'd honestly get much further trying to have a conversation with somebody who only speaks Chinese without an interpreter in the room.
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SECONDRATE isn't dumb. He's extremely inventive when it comes to Making Things Not His Fault. It's all Republican's fault. Everything is their fault. The rationalizations why this is so are endless! He was taught to be a righteous man but a) he can't change his past and 2) he likes his money too much. So instead of being a decent person, the best he can do is virtue signal that He Pays His Taxes.
It's pretty simple, really. He's a human being twisted by having killed people and too much money.
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Quote:How does one pilot negotiate with the co-pilot? Do the pilots let the machinery of the autopilot fly the plane until it runs out of fuel and falls from the sky because they can't agree? The Senate does. The Senate has been on autopilot since 1942 on deciding when to declare war. Even before Pearl Harbor, the Senate was on autopilot. War had been raging across Europe and Asia for years, yet the Senate could NOT get off autopilot. It was plain as daylight that the Wars would eventually come to America, even if the Senate could not make a decision.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
When does one negotiate? When faced with an opponent of approximately equal power. But in a system of rabid partisanship, when all party members vote in lock step, there is no approximate equal power, no negotiation, there is only the majority and the minority.
What was the result? America has gone to war time after time, the Pentagon stumbles into disaster after disaster, yet the Senate never gets around to making a Declaration of War, which is one of its few well defined responsibilities in the Constitution. Why no decisions? The real reason is that Americans elect politicians who pretend to be big and brave but are actually frightened and indecisive people who talk too much in order to avoid responsibility. The technical reason is the filibuster.
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Quote:One thing I am confident of is that Trumptards can't imagine the future they unthinkingly create. I have seen their astonished look when the world crashes down on their heads. I saw that look when Trump lost. They were certain they had it all figured out! Here are a few paragraphs out of a much longer essay from Timothy Snyder about America's future, which will come crashing down on all our heads:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECONDRATE isn't dumb. He's extremely inventive when it comes to Making Things Not His Fault. It's all Republican's fault. Everything is their fault. The rationalizations why this is so are endless! He was taught to be a righteous man but a) he can't change his past and 2) he likes his money too much. So instead of being a decent person, the best he can do is virtue signal that He Pays His Taxes.
It's pretty simple, really. He's a human being twisted by having killed people and too much money.
How an American nightmare will become real
It is so obvious where all of this is heading. President Trump tells a big lie that elections are rigged. This authorizes him and others to seek power in extra-democratic ways. The lie is institutionalized by state legislation that suppresses voting, and that gives state legislatures themselves the right to decide how to allocate the electoral vote in presidential elections.
The scenario then goes like this. The Republicans win back the House and Senate in 2022, in part thanks to voter suppression. The Republican candidate in 2024 loses the popular vote by several million and the electoral vote by the margin of a few states. State legislatures, claiming fraud, alter the electoral count vote. The House and Senate accept that altered count. The losing candidate becomes the president. We no longer have “democratically elected government.”
No one is seeking to hide that this is the plan. It is right there out in the open. The prospective Republican candidates for 2024, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and Josh Hawley, are all running on a big lie platform. If your platform is that elections do not work, you are saying that you intend to come to power some other way. The big lie is designed not to win an election, but to discredit one. Any candidate who tells it is alienating most Americans, and preparing a minority for a scenario where fraud is claimed. This is just what Trump tried in 2020, and it led to a coup attempt in January 2021. It will be worse in January 2025.
9/11 led us to the invasion of Iraq, the foreign policy disaster that marked our century. 1/6 leads us to a catastrophe on that scale, but inside our own country. It is not at all clear that the plan to take power undemocratically will work, but it is clear that it will generate a lot of resistance. African Americans are right now being told the absurd lie that the problem in America is that it is too easy for them to vote. As the scenario plays out, all Americans will face an open denial of everything they have been told about their country.
When Trump told his big lie, the airplane hit the building.
The anti-voter laws proposed and passed by Republican state legislatures around the country move the scenario to its next step. Halting them might well be the only way to halt the scenario as a whole. Businesses that want to avoid chaos between now and 2022 and prevent system breakdown in 2024 would be well advised not to donate to politicians who repeat the big lie and suppress the vote.
More at https://snyder.substack.com/p/911-and-16
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SLOPPY, not since the very founding of this country have we ever had "democratically elected government".
And once again you (along with THUGGER) demonstrate how much you hate the Constitution, and by extension, the US of A.
SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?
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Quote:It cannot be repeated too often enough, but Trumptards are crazy. I have never known even one of them in Texas, as they screw up at work at home at life, that realized they were making crazy decisions, but the crappy results in life should have given them a clue. They never pick up the clue, turn it over to examine it closely in order to see it is a mirror showing their own face as the culprit. 1kiki, you are so funny . . . in the head. Or maybe pretending to be. I sure hope you are a real Russia troll because it would be sad if you believe what you write as only an honest-to-God Trumptard does. Believing falsehoods with all their heart and soul is what makes them Trumptards and ruins their lives.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
SLOPPY, not since the very founding of this country have we ever had "democratically elected government".
And once again you (along with THUGGER) demonstrate how much you hate the Constitution, and by extension, the US of A.
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SIGNYM:
SECONDRATE isn't dumb. He's extremely inventive when it comes to Making Things Not His Fault. It's all Republican's fault. Everything is their fault. The rationalizations why this is so are endless! He was taught to be a righteous man but a) he can't change his past and 2) he likes his money too much. So instead of being a decent person, the best he can do is virtue signal that He Pays His Taxes.
It's pretty simple, really. He's a human being twisted by having killed people and too much money.
SECONDRATE: One thing I am confident of is that Trumptards can't imagine the future they unthinkingly create. I have seen their astonished look when the world crashes down on their heads. I saw that look when Trump lost. They were certain they had it all figured out! Here are a few paragraphs out of a much longer essay from Timothy Snyder about America's future, which will come crashing down on all our heads ... blah blah blah
Dood, Trump was in office for four years.
FOUR YEARS.
What our nation is suffering from is a construct many DECADES in the making. It took oligarchs and politicians [of both parties] DECADES to get us where we are today. And it will take DECADES to get us out of the mess that we're in.
This is not "Trump's" fault nor "Trumptards'" fault, it is the oligarchs' fault. YOUR fault.
We can't begin to fix our problems until we recognize what they are and who created them. Your blame-shifting is just delaying that moment.
Also, I couldn't help but notice that've you've deliberately dragged the thread off-topic many times already, hoping that nobody will notice that the "election reform bill" is a naked Democrat power-grab which should be killed. And if Manchin retains his principled stand, it will be.
I'm sure the DNC is putting lots of pressure on him and also offering plum committee assignments and/or money for his state. His is the single vote standing in the way of the DNC's lust for absolute power.
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Quote:The problem is not the system. It has always been Americans who can't think straight when placed under even the slightest pressure to make a proper decision about an important problem. People who would become Trumptards were the same people who were adamant about the necessity of fighting Communism in Vietnam. They were the same people who ran that war using the stupidest imaginable strategies every single day. Under stress, they got dumb and stayed that way. In peacetime I have seen a million times where Americans I know have their brains freeze up when stressed by events. Then they go and drink too much, smoke too much, eat too much, goof off too much, spend too much, as if that will fix what is wrong in their heads. It is not the system. It's the 75 million Americans who can't function rationally, with a modicum of self-control and commonsense, under any system. And the results have been bad for centuries and is likely to get worse as these people with mental problems demand the government run as badly as they run their day-to-day lives.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Dood, Trump was in office for four years.
FOUR YEARS.
What our nation is suffering from is a construct many DECADES in the making. It took oligarchs and politicians [of both parties] DECADES to get us where we are today. And it will take DECADES to get us out of the mess that we're in.
This is not "Trump's" fault nor "Trumptards'" fault, it is the oligarchs' fault. YOUR fault.
We can't begin to fix our problems until we recognize what they are and who created them. Your blame-shifting is just delaying that moment.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's like talking to a child. A really dumb child.
It's a rare occasion that I can't visualize myself in somebody else's shoes, but after years of dealing with Second I've finally realized that my imagination is not capable of allowing myself even pretend for a moment to be as stupid as you'd need to be to hold a conversation with him.
I'd honestly get much further trying to have a conversation with somebody who only speaks Chinese without an interpreter in the room.
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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
SECONDRATE isn't dumb. He's extremely inventive when it comes to Making Things Not His Fault. It's all Republican's fault. Everything is their fault. The rationalizations why this is so are endless! He was taught to be a righteous man but a) he can't change his past and 2) he likes his money too much. So instead of being a decent person, the best he can do is virtue signal that He Pays His Taxes.
It's pretty simple, really. He's a human being twisted by having killed people and too much money.
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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
He's a little boy.
Just like his gross sockpuppet was.
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SIGNYM:
Dood, Trump was in office for four years.
FOUR YEARS.
What our nation is suffering from is a construct many DECADES in the making. It took oligarchs and politicians [of both parties] DECADES to get us where we are today. And it will take DECADES to get us out of the mess that we're in.
This is not "Trump's" fault nor "Trumptards'" fault, it is the oligarchs' fault. YOUR fault.
We can't begin to fix our problems until we recognize what they are and who created them. Your blame-shifting is just delaying that moment.
SECONDRATE: The problem is not the system.
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Quote:Oh, kind of like you, when you volunteered for a useless war that was already winding down? Like that?
SECONDRATE: It has always been Americans who can't think straight when placed under even the slightest pressure to make a proper decision about an important problem.
And,what does your post have to do with the election "reform" (aka naked Democrat power grab) bill anyway?
Oh, nothing, you say?
Just more shit with which to splatter this topic?
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I think Second would feel more at home with the retarded kids on Twitter.
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Quote:Joe Manchin’s Incoherent Case for Letting Republicans Destroy Democracy
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Also, I couldn't help but notice that've you've deliberately dragged the thread off-topic many times already, hoping that nobody will notice that the "election reform bill" is a naked Democrat power-grab which should be killed. And if Manchin retains his principled stand, it will be.
I'm sure the DNC is putting lots of pressure on him and also offering plum committee assignments and/or money for his state. His is the single vote standing in the way of the DNC's lust for absolute power.
The most powerful senator ties himself in knots.
What does Joe Manchin want? The inscrutable whims of the West Virginia senator and 50th Senate vote have always controlled the future of the Biden administration’s domestic agenda. As such, Manchin’s desires are the subject of daily speculation and the vessel into which his party has projected a mix of hope and rage.
It would be a relief of sorts if Manchin would simply tell us what he wants. The problem is that his statements frequently conflict with each other. (On infrastructure, he has alternatively demanded that the bill be enormous, that it be fully paid for, and obtain Republican support, all of which are individually difficult and collectively impossible.) His position on voting rights is, if anything, even less clear.
In an op-ed yesterday, Manchin laid out a series of propositions that purport to explain his position, but upon close inspection make it difficult to understand what he believes or wants.
The internal contradiction of Manchin’s position is summarized in the first two sentences. The first one establishes that the right to vote is fundamental: “The right to vote is fundamental to our American democracy and protecting that right should not be about party or politics.” But in the next line, he qualifies that this right can “never” be protected in a partisan fashion: “Least of all, protecting this right, which is a value I share, should never be done in a partisan manner.”
Here we have two values in conflict: the right to vote, and the evil of partisan voting laws. Manchin claims the first to be “fundamental,” but if he is unwilling to violate the second value to secure it, then it clearly isn’t.
More at https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/06/manchin-voting-rights-filibust
er-senate-john-lewis-democracy-vote-suppression.html
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No one should miss this Mark Meadows story. No one.
In the final days of President Donald Trump’s time in office, his chief of staff sent five emails to the acting attorney general designed to pressure the nation’s top cop to investigate a series of ridiculous claims of election fraud in the 2020 election – among them that Italy had deployed technology that somehow switched votes from Trump to Joe Biden.
No, that sentence above isn’t parody although it reads like it. It is fact – first reported by The New York Times on Saturday and then confirmed by CNN. That actually happened. In the United States of America. In 2021 (and in late 2020).
What’s stunning to me is that this isn’t a bigger story.
Consider, again, what we are talking about: The top aide to the President of the United States tried to get the head of the Department of Justice to launch investigations into appallingly ridiculous election fraud claims solely because the aforementioned President couldn’t (and can’t) accept that he lost the 2020 election.
That these efforts came in the run-up to the violent insurrection at the US Capitol on January 6, which left more than 100 police officers injured and five people dead, make them all the more appalling. As Trump was publicly fomenting doubt in the election results – via a series of failed lawsuits and debunked conspiracy theories – his chief of staff was working privately to cajole the nation’s chief law enforcement official to resuscitate these fallacies in order to please Trump.
Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, got it right when he said Meadows’ pressure campaign “underscores the depths of the White House’s efforts to co-opt the department and influence the electoral vote certification. This is a five alarm fire for our democracy.”
Yes, it is!
www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/politics/mark-meadows-trump-doj-italygate/index
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lol
Fraud election was a fraud.
But I do think it's funny that even though I believe 100% that the 2020 election was as sham, here I am bitching about our current president not even 0.01% as much as you bitched about Trump.
You are a sad little boy.
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HR 1 is DEAD.
Even lefty shill "news" outfits are finally reporting the truth about that.
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