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The Ongoing Perpetual Wuhan Coronavirus Scare, Lockdown, Unemployment and Corruption

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 3:21 AM

Libtards can claim yet another life.

She is not dying from covid, or anything related to covid, but from overreactionary Libtard Lockdown fanatics afraid of the virus which plagued so few.


https://ca.style.yahoo.com/woman-diagnosed-with-stage-3-cancer-after-c
olonoscopy-canceled-3-times-175213237.html



In Indiana.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 3:28 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
About 3 weeks ago, TX announced it was opening, and no more Mask requirements.

Since then, hospitalizations and cases have taken a nosedive.

But NY and NJ have massive spikes.

Too bad that data does not show "massive spikes" or "a nosedive" you say it shows:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-jersey/

More lies from Sloppybot.

The link for TX does not show hospitalizations. The Active Cases graph had 180,000 and nosedived before easing the downslope, under 100,000. Daily New Cases went from 7,365 to most recent of 4,100.

NY? Daily New Cases 5,800 to most recent 8,600.

NJ? Daily New Cases 2,300 to 5,600.

TX cut in half their numbers, while NJ doubled theirs and NY almost doubled theirs.

Sloppybot is just too stupid to read graphs.

Texas just reported having Zero covid deaths this past week, the first in over a year.
And just 2 months after ending Chin Diaper mandates.



https://news.yahoo.com/several-states-report-zero-covid-114909774.html

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/texas-reports-zero-covid-d
eaths-and-20-million-vaccines-administered


https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/553961-texas-reports-z
ero-covid-deaths-for-the-first-time-in-over-a-year



And South Dakota still stands at Zero "covid" deaths during the entire artificial "pandemic" - having never Locked Down.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 3:33 AM

It was revealed that NY Gov Fredo Gump was grafted $5.1 million for his Fake book about how he is so great, which sold 50,000 copies (giving Fredo $100 per copy - most of which went to Libtard colleges and schools), and after he caused only 15,000 extra deaths. He had managed to prohibit NY Citizens from being allowed admission to the Javits Center filed hospital or the USS Comfort, both of which had fully staffed and equipped covid-ready beds and 80% empty beds.


Why is nobody surprised by New York Greed?

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 1:51 AM

It seems the links have been scrubbed from Big Tech Media, but I was listening to reports about how Liar-In-Chief Fauci's Gain-Of-Function research at Wuhan Labs managed to leak out Fauci Flu, aka Covid-19.
Why Wuhan? Because that research is illegal in the United States, there is a moratorium against it (because it is far too dangerous). And U.S. funding cannot support such research, unless a waiver is signed. So, who signed the waiver that allowed Fauci to fund the research which is illegal in the U.S.? Fauci signed the waiver.



https://100percentfedup.com/bombshell-wuhan-lab-deleted-faucis-connect
ion-to-gain-of-function-research-nih-as-research-partner
/

https://peterdaszak.com/

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/gain-of-function-hall-of-shame

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/05/13/dr-fauc
i-saying-the-nih-never-funded-gain-of-function-research-at-the-wuhan-lab-is-evasive-at-best-n1446170


https://ptaka71907.wordpress.com/2021/05/21/mrna-triggered-diseases-th
rough-gain-of-function-research
/

https://welovetrump.com/2021/05/15/blistering-report-points-to-peter-d
aszak-as-being-the-chief-architect-of-covid-19
/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9129749/How-Peter-Daszak-WHOs
-team-investigating-original-source-outbreak.html


https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia3/ciencia_coronavirus332.htm

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/nih-established-a-public-health-em
ergency-loophole-enabling-chinese-scientists-to-exploit-moratorium-on-gain-of-function-coronavirus-research
/

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 4:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
It seems the links have been scrubbed from Big Tech Media, but I was listening to reports about how Liar-In-Chief Fauci's Gain-Of-Function research at Wuhan Labs managed to leak out Fauci Flu, aka Covid-19.
Why Wuhan? Because that research is illegal in the United States, there is a moratorium against it (because it is far too dangerous). And U.S. funding cannot support such research, unless a waiver is signed. So, who signed the waiver that allowed Fauci to fund the research which is illegal in the U.S.? Fauci signed the waiver.



https://100percentfedup.com/bombshell-wuhan-lab-deleted-faucis-connect
ion-to-gain-of-function-research-nih-as-research-partner
/

https://peterdaszak.com/

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/gain-of-function-hall-of-shame

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/05/13/dr-fauc
i-saying-the-nih-never-funded-gain-of-function-research-at-the-wuhan-lab-is-evasive-at-best-n1446170


https://ptaka71907.wordpress.com/2021/05/21/mrna-triggered-diseases-th
rough-gain-of-function-research
/

https://welovetrump.com/2021/05/15/blistering-report-points-to-peter-d
aszak-as-being-the-chief-architect-of-covid-19
/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9129749/How-Peter-Daszak-WHOs
-team-investigating-original-source-outbreak.html


https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia3/ciencia_coronavirus332.htm

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/nih-established-a-public-health-em
ergency-loophole-enabling-chinese-scientists-to-exploit-moratorium-on-gain-of-function-coronavirus-research
/


Well, I guess me posting this today is not news to those who consume real news.
This must have been all exposed last night on levintv, with an interview with Nicholas Wade.
That interview was taped last Wednesday, which makes that the first revelation of all these facts, which I heard late last week.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:45 AM

This has been the biggest con I've witnessed in my lifetime.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021 2:38 PM


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COVID in India
May 25, 2021 | Author Jayant Bhandari






Scavengers Out in Full Force

I have just returned from a visit to my family in India. It was hard to escape. To get to the US from India, I needed a COVID test. The Indian government has seriously restricted who can provide COVID testing, treatment, and vaccination. Private doctors and hospitals that are not approved face brutal legal consequences if they provide COVID treatment.



India’s experience with the COVID pandemic was particularly unpleasant… [PT]



Emergency powers were centralized early last year in the hands of the Indian Prime Minister, Narendra Modi. He gave himself direct control over the bureaucrats of the states, making local governments largely impotent and dependent on him.



Getting vaccinated, the Indian way. pic.twitter.com/GztV3nhnbs

— Jayant Bhandari (@JayantBhandari5) May 12, 2021



In their supreme wisdom, government bureaucrats concluded that because the prefix “COVID-” exists in treatment, vaccination, and testing, they must all be performed at the same place. For my test, I sat in a petri dish of COVID, with those coming out positive sitting right next to me. Desperate, vulnerable old people, who merely wanted to get their jabs, sat among us. Those who were sick for reasons other than COVID were among us too, for the government has required everyone who is sick to be tested for COVID first .

A microcosm of how everything is done in India, the tests were given haphazardly, with samples getting mixed up, nurses spending most of their time fighting among themselves, and — lacking a lineup system — people crowded together, pushing and breathing into the mouths of one another.

A few days earlier, the government had given notice of the rate of tests and further restricted where they could be performed. A bribe-taking system would have been my preference to bypass government restrictions, but no such system has evolved yet. Nevertheless, corruption has exploded, and self-centeredness, apathy, a dog-eat-dog environment has come to the surface. You see this everywhere; the scavengers are out in full force.

I went to a private COVID hospital. The situation in government hospitals is far worse, beyond my capacity to cope with it.


The World’s Worst Lockdown

Yet the story of COVID in India is hardly about COVID as such, which is nothing more than a trigger. More than twice as many people died of fairly easily treatable tuberculosis in 2020 than of COVID. Instead, this is a story of foolish rulers, completely hollowed out institutions, and a pathetically irrational and tribal society.



India’s Hunger Games: There is no history of Indians fighting back, for they lack moral consciousness. They also know that if they do fight back, their nails will get pulled out and they will be beaten with the stick on the sole of the feet, the usual practice. Courts do nothing. pic.twitter.com/228lSn3ejw

— Jayant Bhandari (@JayantBhandari5) May 13, 2021



The lockdown that India declared in March 2020 was the world’s most atrocious. It was a nationwide curfew, with no-one allowed to leave home, not even to shop for groceries. The police destroyed grocery shops that dared to open. It took the government a couple of days to realize that people needed to buy food — the original decision had been a shot from the hip, completely bereft of any effort to think things through. During the four-month curfew, the police ruthlessly beat up people, particularly those who looked poor. Trains, flights, and all transportation had come to a complete, grinding halt.



India’s Hunger Games: Given an India a stick, and you can be assured he will use it. Give him a position of power, and he will abuse it, exploit people and humiliate them. Indians have no moral consciousness. They feel no righteous anger. They are either exploiters or exploited. pic.twitter.com/TZ7qD97dvX

— Jayant Bhandari (@JayantBhandari5) April 27, 2021



India’s Hunger Games: The old w

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Thursday, May 27, 2021 4:51 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
This has been the biggest con I've witnessed in my lifetime.

Be careful. Many folk have been taken in, hook, line, and sinker. Many of these gullible call themselves scientists. And Doctors. And academics. They are all smarter than everybody else - because they said so, and because they could not get into real science programs without Affirmative Action Admissions to lift them above the level of really smart people.

The real question might be: who are in on it? And who are just gullible?

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Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
It seems the links have been scrubbed from Big Tech Media, but I was listening to reports about how Liar-In-Chief Fauci's Gain-Of-Function research at Wuhan Labs managed to leak out Fauci Flu, aka Covid-19.
Why Wuhan? Because that research is illegal in the United States, there is a moratorium against it (because it is far too dangerous). And U.S. funding cannot support such research, unless a waiver is signed. So, who signed the waiver that allowed Fauci to fund the research which is illegal in the U.S.? Fauci signed the waiver.



https://100percentfedup.com/bombshell-wuhan-lab-deleted-faucis-connect
ion-to-gain-of-function-research-nih-as-research-partner
/

https://peterdaszak.com/

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/gain-of-function-hall-of-shame

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/05/13/dr-fauc
i-saying-the-nih-never-funded-gain-of-function-research-at-the-wuhan-lab-is-evasive-at-best-n1446170


https://ptaka71907.wordpress.com/2021/05/21/mrna-triggered-diseases-th
rough-gain-of-function-research
/

https://welovetrump.com/2021/05/15/blistering-report-points-to-peter-d
aszak-as-being-the-chief-architect-of-covid-19
/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9129749/How-Peter-Daszak-WHOs
-team-investigating-original-source-outbreak.html


https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia3/ciencia_coronavirus332.htm

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/nih-established-a-public-health-em
ergency-loophole-enabling-chinese-scientists-to-exploit-moratorium-on-gain-of-function-coronavirus-research
/


Well, I guess me posting this today is not news to those who consume real news.
This must have been all exposed last night on levintv, with an interview with Nicholas Wade.
That interview was taped last Wednesday, which makes that the first revelation of all these facts, which I heard late last week.


I keep hearing these revelations on more and more news shows. Maybe in a few months such real news might be on CNN. Maybe in a few years, on 60 Minutes.

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Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
This has been the biggest con I've witnessed in my lifetime.

Be careful. Many folk have been taken in, hook, line, and sinker. Many of these gullible call themselves scientists. And Doctors. And academics. They are all smarter than everybody else - because they said so, and because they could not get into real science programs without Affirmative Action Admissions to lift them above the level of really smart people.

The real question might be: who are in on it? And who are just gullible?



As long as you know there are four lights, the answer to that question doesn't even matter.

The vast majority of college educated twits in this country have proven themselves to be nothing worth envying. It's a free country, so they can go right on telling anybody who doesn't have a degree that they're smarter, but I'm just as free to tell them to fuck right off and go bounce on that worthless diploma they'll be paying off for a majority of their adulthood.


It is nice in the meantime that some journalists have seemed to decide it's time to do their fucking jobs for once now that Trump is out of office though.

It's funny how many things they were telling us were conspiracy theories last year are now all of the sudden something to take serious this year, innit?

--------------------------------------------------

Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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Friday, May 28, 2021 5:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
It seems the links have been scrubbed from Big Tech Media, but I was listening to reports about how Liar-In-Chief Fauci's Gain-Of-Function research at Wuhan Labs managed to leak out Fauci Flu, aka Covid-19.
Why Wuhan? Because that research is illegal in the United States, there is a moratorium against it (because it is far too dangerous). And U.S. funding cannot support such research, unless a waiver is signed. So, who signed the waiver that allowed Fauci to fund the research which is illegal in the U.S.? Fauci signed the waiver.



https://100percentfedup.com/bombshell-wuhan-lab-deleted-faucis-connect
ion-to-gain-of-function-research-nih-as-research-partner
/

https://peterdaszak.com/

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/gain-of-function-hall-of-shame

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/05/13/dr-fauc
i-saying-the-nih-never-funded-gain-of-function-research-at-the-wuhan-lab-is-evasive-at-best-n1446170


https://ptaka71907.wordpress.com/2021/05/21/mrna-triggered-diseases-th
rough-gain-of-function-research
/

https://welovetrump.com/2021/05/15/blistering-report-points-to-peter-d
aszak-as-being-the-chief-architect-of-covid-19
/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9129749/How-Peter-Daszak-WHOs
-team-investigating-original-source-outbreak.html


https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia3/ciencia_coronavirus332.htm

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/nih-established-a-public-health-em
ergency-loophole-enabling-chinese-scientists-to-exploit-moratorium-on-gain-of-function-coronavirus-research
/


Well, I guess me posting this today is not news to those who consume real news.
This must have been all exposed last night on levintv, with an interview with Nicholas Wade.
That interview was taped last Wednesday, which makes that the first revelation of all these facts, which I heard late last week.


I keep hearing these revelations on more and more news shows. Maybe in a few months such real news might be on CNN. Maybe in a few years, on 60 Minutes.

This show repeating this weekend, either Sat or Sun. On Fox (FNC, I think).

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Monday, May 31, 2021 9:42 AM

I have not seen anybody here discuss CA releasing another 76,000 criminals.

Haven't conjured if this is a result of election theft, or Gavin recall, of Commie-la, or what.
Maybe Jim Crow vaccinations.

What's it about?

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Monday, May 31, 2021 11:25 AM


JSF

Somewhere, perhaps in this thread or another, you provided a link that contained 2 links to different publications of Fauci's gain-of-function missive. I did click on those links and read it(them). But since they dealt with INFLUENZA gain-of-function research and not CORONAVIRUS gain-of-function research (those being entirely separate types of viruses) it didn't really apply to SARS-CoV-2. While one could tag Fauci as being generally supportive of gain-of-function research (he had positives to say about the idea that he indicated were greater than the negatives), the publication(s) didn't link him with coronavirus ... or Wuhan ... or specific projects, or anything directly related. At worst, Fauci was just hopefully but generally musing on the overall idea of gain-of-function work.

So I didn't post anything but just passed on by.

But because of that, today I almost didn't click on your links here. (And since I'm not here all the time I often miss entire threads. I don't recall seeing this particular convo and set of links before, so I must have missed it the first few cycles through.)


That said, these links you posted here do directly indicate a money trail from NIAID and NIH under Fauci's (and others') control, through Peter Daszak (British), to Wuhan, for gain-of-function CORONAVIRUS research. Perhaps someone may come by to dispute those stories: someone with more time and money whose job it is to find and report out facts might be able to point out problems with the equation research money = Wuhan = coronavirus = SARS-CoV-2. But as it stands, it sure does look like Fauci (and others) can be implicated at least generally in Wuhan's virology lab coronavirus gain-of-function research.

But I think the story may go deeper than that. There is plenty of evidence that COVID-19 was already on the loose in China BEFORE the Wuhan wet-market focus. That fact needs to be looked into as well.

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Monday, May 31, 2021 6:47 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

JSF

Somewhere, perhaps in this thread or another, you provided a link that contained 2 links to different publications of Fauci's gain-of-function missive. I did click on those links and read it(them). But since they dealt with INFLUENZA gain-of-function research and not CORONAVIRUS gain-of-function research (those being entirely separate types of viruses) it didn't really apply to SARS-CoV-2.



Are you sure you're not mixing that up with my post here?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63571&mid=11341
67#1134167


If so, that's not two publications. It's just one, and then a link to a downloadable PDF of the same publication.

Also if so, I strongly disagree with your assessment that it doesn't apply to today.


Particularly this part:


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Putting aside the specter of bioterrorism for the moment, consider this hypothetical scenario: an important gain-of-function experiment involving a virus with serious pandemic potential is performed in a well-regulated, world-class laboratory by experienced investigators, but the information from the experiment is then used by another scientist who does not have the same training and facilities and is not subject to the same regulations. In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events, what if that scientist becomes infected with the virus, which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic? Many ask reasonable questions: given the possibility of such a scenario—however remote—should the initial experiments have been performed and/or published in the first place, and what were the processes involved in this decision?

Scientists working in this field might say—as indeed I have said—that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks. It is more likely that a pandemic would occur in nature, and the need to stay ahead of such a threat is a primary reason for performing an experiment that might appear to be risky. However, we must respect that there are genuine and legitimate concerns about this type of research, both domestically and globally. We cannot expect those who have these concerns to simply take us, the scientific community, at our word that the benefits of this work outweigh the risks, nor can we ignore their calls for greater transparency, their concerns about conflicts of interest, and their efforts to engage in a dialog about whether these experiments should have been performed in the first place. Those of us in the scientific community who believe in the merits of this work have the responsibility to address these concerns thoughtfully and respectfully.







So we find ourselves in a situation where this is exactly what happened. What was allowed to happen.

And in the mean time, 9 years after this publication was written, there is and should be ZERO trust in these scientists and their work. These are the type of people who put a dollar sign on human life and give everyone a number instead of a name.

This particular leak in 2020, while not the flu, triggered a "pandemic" that didn't kill anybody. But what else have they got cooking in those kitchens? How dangerous are the other things they're cooking up? And just how many more of those kitchens are behind hostile foreign lines?

--------------------------------------------------

Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
JSF

Somewhere, perhaps in this thread or another, you provided a link that contained 2 links to different publications of Fauci's gain-of-function missive. I did click on those links and read it(them). But since they dealt with INFLUENZA gain-of-function research and not CORONAVIRUS gain-of-function research (those being entirely separate types of viruses) it didn't really apply to SARS-CoV-2. While one could tag Fauci as being generally supportive of gain-of-function research (he had positives to say about the idea that he indicated were greater than the negatives), the publication(s) didn't link him with coronavirus ... or Wuhan ... or specific projects, or anything directly related. At worst, Fauci was just hopefully but generally musing on the overall idea of gain-of-function work.

So I didn't post anything but just passed on by.

But because of that, today I almost didn't click on your links here. (And since I'm not here all the time I often miss entire threads. I don't recall seeing this particular convo and set of links before, so I must have missed it the first few cycles through.)

Here is an excellent example of how drastic is the media blackout bubble for California. This real news revelation has been all over the Real News for more than 10 days, practically everywhere I turn - as if it wasn't known a year ago. And yet, somehow, Real News has not infiltrated the Libtard warrens of CA. It really is a different world out there. Maybe the news there is too crowded with how Presidente Obrador is treating the loyal Citizens there.
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That said, these links you posted here do directly indicate a money trail from NIAID and NIH under Fauci's (and others') control, through Peter Daszak (British), to Wuhan, for gain-of-function CORONAVIRUS research. Perhaps someone may come by to dispute those stories: someone with more time and money whose job it is to find and report out facts might be able to point out problems with the equation research money = Wuhan = coronavirus = SARS-CoV-2. But as it stands, it sure does look like Fauci (and others) can be implicated at least generally in Wuhan's virology lab coronavirus gain-of-function research.

But I think the story may go deeper than that. There is plenty of evidence that COVID-19 was already on the loose in China BEFORE the Wuhan wet-market focus. That fact needs to be looked into as well.

So are you saying that there is not any Moratorium against Gain Of Function research in America, as long as it applies to The Flu, Influenza? Only against Fauci Flu, Coronavirus?

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 1:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
It seems the links have been scrubbed from Big Tech Media, but I was listening to reports about how Liar-In-Chief Fauci's Gain-Of-Function research at Wuhan Labs managed to leak out Fauci Flu, aka Covid-19.
Why Wuhan? Because that research is illegal in the United States, there is a moratorium against it (because it is far too dangerous). And U.S. funding cannot support such research, unless a waiver is signed. So, who signed the waiver that allowed Fauci to fund the research which is illegal in the U.S.? Fauci signed the waiver.



https://100percentfedup.com/bombshell-wuhan-lab-deleted-faucis-connect
ion-to-gain-of-function-research-nih-as-research-partner
/

https://peterdaszak.com/

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/gain-of-function-hall-of-shame

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/05/13/dr-fauc
i-saying-the-nih-never-funded-gain-of-function-research-at-the-wuhan-lab-is-evasive-at-best-n1446170


https://ptaka71907.wordpress.com/2021/05/21/mrna-triggered-diseases-th
rough-gain-of-function-research
/

https://welovetrump.com/2021/05/15/blistering-report-points-to-peter-d
aszak-as-being-the-chief-architect-of-covid-19
/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9129749/How-Peter-Daszak-WHOs
-team-investigating-original-source-outbreak.html


https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia3/ciencia_coronavirus332.htm

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/nih-established-a-public-health-em
ergency-loophole-enabling-chinese-scientists-to-exploit-moratorium-on-gain-of-function-coronavirus-research
/


Well, I guess me posting this today is not news to those who consume real news.
This must have been all exposed last night on levintv, with an interview with Nicholas Wade.
That interview was taped last Wednesday, which makes that the first revelation of all these facts, which I heard late last week.


I keep hearing these revelations on more and more news shows. Maybe in a few months such real news might be on CNN. Maybe in a few years, on 60 Minutes.

This show repeating this weekend, either Sat or Sun. On Fox (FNC, I think).

I was slow to realize this was Memorial Day weekend.
So maybe this episode could still be repeated again tonight.
I believe it is only the one interview, for the entire show.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 1:13 AM

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I have not seen anybody here discuss CA releasing another 76,000 criminals.

Haven't conjured if this is a result of election theft, or Gavin recall, of Commie-la, or what.

What's it about?

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 1:35 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

JSF

Somewhere, perhaps in this thread or another, you provided a link that contained 2 links to different publications of Fauci's gain-of-function missive. I did click on those links and read it(them). But since they dealt with INFLUENZA gain-of-function research and not CORONAVIRUS gain-of-function research (those being entirely separate types of viruses) it didn't really apply to SARS-CoV-2.



Are you sure you're not mixing that up with my post here?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63571&mid=11341
67#1134167


If so, that's not two publications. It's just one, and then a link to a downloadable PDF of the same publication.

Also if so, I strongly disagree with your assessment that it doesn't apply to today.


Particularly this part:


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Putting aside the specter of bioterrorism for the moment, consider this hypothetical scenario: an important gain-of-function experiment involving a virus with serious pandemic potential is performed in a well-regulated, world-class laboratory by experienced investigators, but the information from the experiment is then used by another scientist who does not have the same training and facilities and is not subject to the same regulations. In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events, what if that scientist becomes infected with the virus, which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic? Many ask reasonable questions: given the possibility of such a scenario—however remote—should the initial experiments have been performed and/or published in the first place, and what were the processes involved in this decision?

Scientists working in this field might say—as indeed I have said—that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks. It is more likely that a pandemic would occur in nature, and the need to stay ahead of such a threat is a primary reason for performing an experiment that might appear to be risky. However, we must respect that there are genuine and legitimate concerns about this type of research, both domestically and globally. We cannot expect those who have these concerns to simply take us, the scientific community, at our word that the benefits of this work outweigh the risks, nor can we ignore their calls for greater transparency, their concerns about conflicts of interest, and their efforts to engage in a dialog about whether these experiments should have been performed in the first place. Those of us in the scientific community who believe in the merits of this work have the responsibility to address these concerns thoughtfully and respectfully.







So we find ourselves in a situation where this is exactly what happened. What was allowed to happen.

And in the mean time, 9 years after this publication was written, there is and should be ZERO trust in these scientists and their work. These are the type of people who put a dollar sign on human life and give everyone a number instead of a name.

This particular leak in 2020, while not the flu, triggered a "pandemic" that didn't kill anybody. But what else have they got cooking in those kitchens? How dangerous are the other things they're cooking up? And just how many more of those kitchens are behind hostile foreign lines?

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It really is a shame that everyone is going to bury their heads in the sand on this one until it's too late.

That's humanity for you. We'll get exactly what we deserve.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 1:51 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
JSF

Somewhere, perhaps in this thread or another, you provided a link that contained 2 links to different publications of Fauci's gain-of-function missive. I did click on those links and read it(them). But since they dealt with INFLUENZA gain-of-function research and not CORONAVIRUS gain-of-function research (those being entirely separate types of viruses) it didn't really apply to SARS-CoV-2.

Are you sure you're not mixing that up with my post here?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63571&mid=11341
67#1134167


If so, that's not two publications. It's just one, and then a link to a downloadable PDF of the same publication.

Also if so, I strongly disagree with your assessment that it doesn't apply to today.

Particularly this part:
Quote:

Putting aside the specter of bioterrorism for the moment, consider this hypothetical scenario: an important gain-of-function experiment involving a virus with serious pandemic potential is performed in a well-regulated, world-class laboratory by experienced investigators, but the information from the experiment is then used by another scientist who does not have the same training and facilities and is not subject to the same regulations. In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events, what if that scientist becomes infected with the virus, which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic? Many ask reasonable questions: given the possibility of such a scenario—however remote—should the initial experiments have been performed and/or published in the first place, and what were the processes involved in this decision?

Scientists working in this field might say—as indeed I have said—that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks. It is more likely that a pandemic would occur in nature, and the need to stay ahead of such a threat is a primary reason for performing an experiment that might appear to be risky. However, we must respect that there are genuine and legitimate concerns about this type of research, both domestically and globally. We cannot expect those who have these concerns to simply take us, the scientific community, at our word that the benefits of this work outweigh the risks, nor can we ignore their calls for greater transparency, their concerns about conflicts of interest, and their efforts to engage in a dialog about whether these experiments should have been performed in the first place. Those of us in the scientific community who believe in the merits of this work have the responsibility to address these concerns thoughtfully and respectfully.


So we find ourselves in a situation where this is exactly what happened. What was allowed to happen.

And in the mean time, 9 years after this publication was written, there is and should be ZERO trust in these scientists and their work. These are the type of people who put a dollar sign on human life and give everyone a number instead of a name.

This particular leak in 2020, while not the flu, triggered a "pandemic" that didn't kill anybody. But what else have they got cooking in those kitchens? How dangerous are the other things they're cooking up? And just how many more of those kitchens are behind hostile foreign lines?

It really is a shame that everyone is going to bury their heads in the sand on this one until it's too late.

That's humanity for you. We'll get exactly what we deserve.

Are you starting to channel Nostradamus? Cassandra?

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 1:59 AM

Everything's eventual.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 3:16 AM


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Here is an excellent example of how drastic is the media blackout bubble for California. This real news revelation has been all over the Real News for more than 10 days ...
You Real News is ... where ... ? FOX radio maybe? Oh, btw, there is no "California" media blackout. Because I keep a good eye on the m$m via the internet and TV, which are both NATIONAL.
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So are you saying that there is not any Moratorium against Gain Of Function research in America, as long as it applies to The Flu, Influenza? Only against Fauci Flu, Coronavirus?
The Fauci missives were from 2012. Obama's moratorium started in 2014. I have no idea what you're trying to say except that Fauci deserves a Nobel for time-traveling his opinion to dispute the gain-of-function moratorium 2 years before the moratorium was established.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 3:17 AM


No Jack, I wasn't referring to your post at all.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 4:57 AM

My mistake.

Have you any thoughts about my post?

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 5:57 AM


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Have you any thoughts about my post?
I should have gone to it instead of clicking on links to links to duck-duck-go to links to ... in order to find the Fauci quotes!

His opinion was just so much blather. It claimed benefits of gain-of-function research without showing proof - or even a single example. It exhorted scientists doing that research to greater transparency - which he himself then later completely obscured by going through chains of outside organizations and labs to hide NIH funded gain-of-function coronavirus research in Wuhan.

Imo he's a snake. And his pronouncements to the US public sometimes contain (but are not entirely) evasions, partial truths, and even self-serving lies. Maybe Daszak is too, along with others who did that kind of research on the DL with a nod and wink.

But there is nothing that links any of that research to SARS-CoV-2 directly. So calling him, and the Wuhan lab, guilty based on assumptions is premature. And given how the Deep State works, the massive effort to scapegoat China, and specifically the Wuhan laboratory, for all of this really, really makes me question why.

Just fyi there is a lot of evidence some serious medical stuff was going on in China, but not in Wuhan, before the problem broke out into the open. One example are satellite photos of parking lots around medical facilities that suddenly and unusually filled up with cars. That item would be like the UCLA track-back of unusual non-influenza respiratory illness spiking 50% in SoCal the very same month of the Wuhan outbreak - months BEFORE it was recognized in the US. https://ph.ucla.edu/news/press-release/2020/sep/covid-19-may-have-been
-la-early-last-december-ucla-led-study-suggests


So indirect evidence points to a pre-Wuhan event.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 7:32 AM

All true, but regardless of whether or not Covid was itself involved, we know that he was specifically writing the prequel to Steven King's The Stand about an allegedly deadly variant of the flu nine years ago.

What other deadly shit have they been working on while not even spending five minutes to make a half-assed attempt at a facade of transparency?


Don't be so quick to call Fauci a snake and make him the scapegoat yourself.

From where I'm sitting, that whole outfit is a den of snakes. He's just the one with the silver tongue.


And the fact that we are even allowed to know as much as we do and a person like Fauci even needs to be talking in public makes me believe that something worse is on its way. Why expose yourself from being able to work in secret if you no longer care at all about being able to work in secret?

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 9:00 AM


Yeah, well maybe Daszak and others are snakes as well, who've decided the peons don't count, compared to their aims and goals. Whatever they are. My impression is that there was actual collusion going on to evade any paltry attempts at restrictions or transparency.

WAAaaayyyy back when many decades ago I read Expedition Venus as a pre-teen. I read The White Plague, The Screwfly Solution, The Andromeda Strain when it first came out, and other sci-fi books like that. (The only episode of the original Hawaii Five-O that I ever liked - but I liked it A LOT - was Three Dead Cows at Makapuu - that dealt with the creation of a bioweapon inimical to all life on earth.)

I later graduated to nonfiction like The Coming Plague, The Hot Zone, Deadly Outbreaks, Deadly Feasts, and others that introduced me to the real-life world of biowarfare, pandemics, 'research'nudge-wink!, and research. What I learned is that there are entire layers of governments, private industries, institutions, and academia, hip-deep in this stuff, skirting if not outright violating whatever limits they're supposed to act under.

I have no doubt that there's stuff out there that's god-awful.

The trick is to figure out what's likely or even possible v conspiracy theory.


Anyway, I require real world evidence. But I'm not holding hard and fast to any one notion, because new evidence is coming in all the time.

For example, I was at first somewhat sympathetic to Fauci because he seemed to be facing a strong anti-science headwind. Since then, starting at when he admitted to fudging the truth in his messages to the American people, he ruined his credibility with me. I truly believe that you need to stick with the facts, even if they're complicated and nuanced, or you have to draw lines around information and the yawning nothingness it sits in, and even if you have to say 'I don't know'. Lately, it looks like Fauci's really trying to cya, to hide his involvement in something worse we don't yet know about. And his cohorts are trying to do the same. And also, maybe tptb are trying to paint an indelible target around Wuhan by saying LOOK HERE !! because we're not supposed to look somewhere else. But then, I could be wrong about that.


For me, it's all subject to rethinking as new data comes in.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 9:36 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Have you any thoughts about my post?
I should have gone to it instead of clicking on links to links to duck-duck-go to links to ... in order to find the Fauci quotes!

His opinion was just so much blather. It claimed benefits of gain-of-function research without showing proof - or even a single example. It exhorted scientists doing that research to greater transparency - which he himself then later completely obscured by going through chains of outside organizations and labs to hide NIH funded gain-of-function coronavirus research in Wuhan.

Imo he's a snake. And his pronouncements to the US public sometimes contain (but are not entirely) evasions, partial truths, and even self-serving lies. Maybe Daszak is too, along with others who did that kind of research on the DL with a nod and wink.

But there is nothing that links any of that research to SARS-CoV-2 directly. So calling him, and the Wuhan lab, guilty based on assumptions is premature. And given how the Deep State works, the massive effort to scapegoat China, and specifically the Wuhan laboratory, for all of this really, really makes me question why.

Just fyi there is a lot of evidence some serious medical stuff was going on in China, but not in Wuhan, before the problem broke out into the open. One example are satellite photos of parking lots around medical facilities that suddenly and unusually filled up with cars. That item would be like the UCLA track-back of unusual non-influenza respiratory illness spiking 50% in SoCal the very same month of the Wuhan outbreak - months BEFORE it was recognized in the US. https://ph.ucla.edu/news/press-release/2020/sep/covid-19-may-have-been
-la-early-last-december-ucla-led-study-suggests


So indirect evidence points to a pre-Wuhan event.

I got it in November 2019.
The company owners and Project Managers, Lead Engineers had just returned from work trips. I think those trips were Germany, Italy, and someplace else in Yurp.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 9:43 AM

Well... as actual intellectuals, and not the dime store versions we're churning out of "higher education" indoctrination camps, it kind of falls on us, or at least people like us, to do... well... something. Anything...

Sitting around and waiting for new data is doing nothing. The viruses themselves are completely objective and don't give two shits about any subjective notions of morality or who is on which side of the argument. Any argument. They have no concept of time or respect for anything who bides it.


I don't believe there's anything "conspiracy theory" about any of this. If your mind can conceive it, they're already working on it. And they're still doing it all in secret, with a bogus bug like Covid-19 being their Copperfield distraction of the day while making the Statue of Liberty disappear right in front of your eyes while your mind was otherwise occupied.

Fauci is a tool. Government officials, both here and abroad are tools. The WHO is a tool. The CDC is a tool. Anybody who's face you've ever seen or who's name you have ever heard come out of anybody's lips are tools.


People need to know the truth, and at the same time it's highly unlikely that people will ever know the truth. The truth is whatever worst case scenario you could possibly imagine is, and probably much worse than that depending entirely upon how imaginative the person doing the imagining is.

The truth is, it's almost certainly already too late to do anything about it. Most people wouldn't actually want to know what was really going on to the point where they would outright deny it if they saw it with their own eyes. Hell... Most days I wish I was 30 IQ points dumber than I was.



This is all end of the world stuff. At the very least it's end of the world as we know it stuff. Covid-19 is only the beginning. Whether intentional or not, and most likely a mix of both in the future, we're going to be inflicted with things that are going to make us long for the days of 2020 and our silly little toilet paper hoarding and our silly little arguments about whether or not we should be forced to wear masks.

I'm just hoping when that day of reckoning comes that those of us intelligent enough to have seen it coming from a mile away can take solace in the fact that there truly wasn't anything we could have ever done to stop it. Assuming any of us live long enough through it when it comes, it would be nice to think that we could still sleep at night by doing our best to always try to keep that in mind.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 1:09 PM


"If your mind can conceive it, they're already working on it."

Well ... as a species, we have whole words, whole libraries even!, about things that don't exist. Like Zeus, or heaven. Or telekinesis. And I personally have even had extremely vivid dreams where I could fly through the air. But afaik, despite the vividness of my mind's conception, they haven't created humans who fly by telekinesis yet. So imo there's a line between fantastical mind-creation, and perception of reality, that one shouldn't cross too eagerly.

I too believe there will be a reckoning. It'll probably come as a quite natural consequence of our own human shortcoming of being tribal first, and not rational (even though we think we're so smart!). So the globe may fry in the heat. Or we'll go up in a puff of nuclear smoke. ... We are already there. All we have to do is let time unfurl and not change what we're doing.

Personally, I'd prefer that we don't do ourselves in and take the planet with us. That at least is theoretically under our control.

It would be nice if us humans could stop the train we've created that's running full tilt over a cliff. That would be a helpful use of our supposed intelligence.

But imo it's only possible if we can separate the real from our fantasies.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 6:27 PM

I'd take your imagination and focus the scope down to only viruses and what's going on in the labs. No gods, no flat earth, no lizard people. Alex Jones shouldn't worry about the Satanists at CERN trying to open a portal up to Hell because we already did that when BP opened a hole in the ocean floor.

The 2020's have been chock full of Conspiracy Theory stuff coming true. Either through whistleblowers like Snowden or them flat out telling us that there's shit in the sky and we supposedly don't know what it is.


Just because we CAN do something doesn't mean we SHOULD do something. The two things that are going to be our ultimate downfall are going to be the tech we produce or the biological weapons we make.

The second biggest problem we have here is that the rich and powerful are okay with the tinkering because everyone who has the means wants to be the first to have it so they can control who dies by it.

The first is the "smart" people who should know better but are excited to be doing the research and testing. Ultimately, everything bad that ends up happening to us falls squarely on their shoulders. All of the money in the world wouldn't be able to produce the war machines they are making right now.

The know it all lab coats will be what bring around the next extinction event.

Follow the Science... right into the abyss.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 11:48 PM


Well, fwiw we're already in the middle of an extinction event, aka a mass extinction. And it didn't take evil geniuses making a Satan Bug. All it took was an economic system that HAS to continuously expand to survive, and the technology to exploit fossil fuels on a mass scale - plus of course human tribalism that can't expand its thinking to others or the future.



Though I don't have much hope we'll stop the runaway train going to the cliff that we built, there's nothing inevitable, like gravity, about the path we're on. It's merely a human construct.

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Thursday, June 3, 2021 6:26 AM

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It seems the links have been scrubbed from Big Tech Media, but I was listening to reports about how Liar-In-Chief Fauci's Gain-Of-Function research at Wuhan Labs managed to leak out Fauci Flu, aka Covid-19.
Why Wuhan? Because that research is illegal in the United States, there is a moratorium against it (because it is far too dangerous). And U.S. funding cannot support such research, unless a waiver is signed. So, who signed the waiver that allowed Fauci to fund the research which is illegal in the U.S.? Fauci signed the waiver.



https://100percentfedup.com/bombshell-wuhan-lab-deleted-faucis-connect
ion-to-gain-of-function-research-nih-as-research-partner
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https://peterdaszak.com/

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/gain-of-function-hall-of-shame

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/05/13/dr-fauc
i-saying-the-nih-never-funded-gain-of-function-research-at-the-wuhan-lab-is-evasive-at-best-n1446170


https://ptaka71907.wordpress.com/2021/05/21/mrna-triggered-diseases-th
rough-gain-of-function-research
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https://welovetrump.com/2021/05/15/blistering-report-points-to-peter-d
aszak-as-being-the-chief-architect-of-covid-19
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9129749/How-Peter-Daszak-WHOs
-team-investigating-original-source-outbreak.html


https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia3/ciencia_coronavirus332.htm

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/nih-established-a-public-health-em
ergency-loophole-enabling-chinese-scientists-to-exploit-moratorium-on-gain-of-function-coronavirus-research
/


It sounds like Liar-in-Chief Fauci's emails have been uncovered, and non-Libtards are pouring over them.

They have gobs of emails from Jan 2020 explaining that covid came from a lab, and how they need to spin a narrative that it did not come from a lab - anything but their lab.

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Thursday, June 3, 2021 6:41 AM

Looks like I was right again.

Imagine that.

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Thursday, June 3, 2021 6:44 AM

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Here is an excellent example of how drastic is the media blackout bubble for California. This real news revelation has been all over the Real News for more than 10 days ...
You Real News is ... where ... ? FOX radio maybe? Oh, btw, there is no "California" media blackout. Because I keep a good eye on the m$m via the internet and TV, which are both NATIONAL.
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So are you saying that there is not any Moratorium against Gain Of Function research in America, as long as it applies to The Flu, Influenza? Only against Fauci Flu, Coronavirus?
The Fauci missives were from 2012. Obama's moratorium started in 2014. I have no idea what you're trying to say except that Fauci deserves a Nobel for time-traveling his opinion to dispute the gain-of-function moratorium 2 years before the moratorium was established.

The California media blackout bubble is so effective that some within the News blackout deny that the News void even exists where it exists.
Yes, I have little doubt that unbiased and fair, honest Entertainment networks like CNN have outlets across the Libtard plains. That you cannot recognize that CNN is a News Blackout is telling.


However, I'm wondering about....FOX radio. I wonder if there is a Fox Radio Network. What do they broadcast? If it is a copy of FNC, run into the ground by Libtard Lachlan Murdoch, then no wonder I have not run across it. But in a Media News Blackout bubble like CA, this might be a viable news source - at least for those thirsty for Real News.

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Thursday, June 3, 2021 6:45 AM

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Looks like I was right again.

Imagine that.

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I thought you were getting tired of that.

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Thursday, June 3, 2021 7:06 AM

Gosh, there are A LOT of commercial ads trying to convince, cajole, coerce, force folk to get a Jim Crow Vaxx.
More and more and more.

Pretty sure that is our tax money going to waste, trying to brainwash the critical thinking capable, the smartest folk in the nation.

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Thursday, June 3, 2021 8:32 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Looks like I was right again.

Imagine that.

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I thought you were getting tired of that.



If it were harder to do, it might at least not be boring.

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Thursday, June 3, 2021 8:41 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Gosh, there are A LOT of commercial ads trying to convince, cajole, coerce, force folk to get a Jim Crow Vaxx.
More and more and more.

Pretty sure that is our tax money going to waste, trying to brainwash the critical thinking capable, the smartest folk in the nation.




I was walking into a store on Memorial Day and I heard a maskless dude around my age say to his maskless wife or girlfriend around my age, who came in right behind me say in a very hushed tone "yada yada yada get a haircut", followed by "yada yada yada get a vaccination".

Wrong move.

I turned right around, got right up in his face, put my finger right next to his eye and said "I'm not getting a fucking haircut. And I'm not getting a fucking vaccine. And I'll wear this fucking mask until the day that I die if I have to." And then I turned around, letting him stand in a puddle of his own piss, and walked in.

The little cuck bitch knew he made a mistake and was speechless.

As I walked in I thought to myself what I should have said after that...

Now here's what's going to happen. You're going to a barbecue tonight with your wife. You're both going to get drunk. Go home. And then you're wife is going to fantasize about me while she's fucking your lame ass.



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Friday, June 4, 2021 5:42 AM

After Trump created WARP SPEED and commissioned millions of vaccine doses, and also implemented a fantastic distribution system, Lord Darth Biden came in a so greatly bungled everything that they cannot get the doses to Americans efficiently, keeping them in storage until they expire, and now they need to export the doses which are on the verge of expiration. What a unmitigated Libtard failure of a Bozo.


https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/us-announces-plan-share-80-m
illion-excess-vaccine-doses


https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/world/790164/us-to-give-80m-vacci
ne-doses-to-priority-nations-75-via-covax/story
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Friday, June 4, 2021 5:44 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
It seems the links have been scrubbed from Big Tech Media, but I was listening to reports about how Liar-In-Chief Fauci's Gain-Of-Function research at Wuhan Labs managed to leak out Fauci Flu, aka Covid-19.
Why Wuhan? Because that research is illegal in the United States, there is a moratorium against it (because it is far too dangerous). And U.S. funding cannot support such research, unless a waiver is signed. So, who signed the waiver that allowed Fauci to fund the research which is illegal in the U.S.? Fauci signed the waiver.



https://100percentfedup.com/bombshell-wuhan-lab-deleted-faucis-connect
ion-to-gain-of-function-research-nih-as-research-partner
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https://peterdaszak.com/

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/gain-of-function-hall-of-shame

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/05/13/dr-fauc
i-saying-the-nih-never-funded-gain-of-function-research-at-the-wuhan-lab-is-evasive-at-best-n1446170


https://ptaka71907.wordpress.com/2021/05/21/mrna-triggered-diseases-th
rough-gain-of-function-research
/

https://welovetrump.com/2021/05/15/blistering-report-points-to-peter-d
aszak-as-being-the-chief-architect-of-covid-19
/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9129749/How-Peter-Daszak-WHOs
-team-investigating-original-source-outbreak.html


https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia3/ciencia_coronavirus332.htm

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/nih-established-a-public-health-em
ergency-loophole-enabling-chinese-scientists-to-exploit-moratorium-on-gain-of-function-coronavirus-research
/


It sounds like Liar-in-Chief Fauci's emails have been uncovered, and non-Libtards are pouring over them.

They have gobs of emails from Jan 2020 explaining that covid came from a lab, and how they need to spin a narrative that it did not come from a lab - anything but their lab.

Sounds like Mark Levin will be discussing this at length on Sean Hannity's TV Show tonight

The breaking article was by Nicholas Wade, in the Bulletin of Atomic Science, on 5 May 2021. over 11,000 word, 34 pages single spaced.

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Friday, June 4, 2021 9:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
After Trump created WARP SPEED and commissioned millions of vaccine doses, and also implemented a fantastic distribution system, Lord Darth Biden came in a so greatly bungled everything that they cannot get the doses to Americans efficiently, keeping them in storage until they expire, and now they need to export the doses which are on the verge of expiration. What a unmitigated Libtard failure of a Bozo.


https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/us-announces-plan-share-80-m
illion-excess-vaccine-doses


https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/world/790164/us-to-give-80m-vacci
ne-doses-to-priority-nations-75-via-covax/story
/





That's just the story the Fake News is printing.

It's the only story they can print, because they don't want to tell you the truth that nobody is lining up for the vaccine anymore and states are requesting far less than they were allotted because nobody wants them.



P.S. I hear West Virginia is offering its citizens guns, cash and pickup trucks to get the vaccine.

How much is your body worth to you?





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Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:55 AM

Judicial Watch Obtains Records Showing NIAID under Dr. Fauci Gave Wuhan Lab $826k for Bat Coronavirus Research From 2014 to 2019

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch today announced that it obtained 280 pages of documents from the Department of Health and Human Services revealing that from 2014 to 2019, $826,277 was given to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for bat coronavirus research by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which is headed by Dr. Anthony Fauci.

The documents, some of which were redacted or withheld in their entirely, were obtained through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit seeking records of communications, contracts and agreements with the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China (Judicial Watch, Inc. v. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (No. 1:21-cv-00696)). The agency is only processing 300 pages records per month, which means it will take until the end of November for the records to be fully reviewed and released under FOIA.

The records include a chart of NIAID funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology sent on April 21, 2020, by NIAID’s Chase Crawford to Principal Deputy Director Hugh Auchincloss and other NIAID officials. The agency funds directed to the Wuhan Institute of Virology between the years 2014-2019 total $826,277. All of the projects listed in the chart are titled “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence.”

In an April 15, 2020 email marked “high” importance, Principal Deputy Director of NIH Lawrence Tabak emailed Fauci, NIH Director Francis Collins, and other NIH officials with the subject line: “HEADS UP: Wuhan lab research:”

Tabak: WH has strongly embraced concerns raised by Congressman Gaetz who is publicly criticizing HHS/NIH for funding the Wuhan laboratory’s bat research. Here’s this quote from another article: “I’m disgusted to learn that for years the US government has been funding dangerous and cruel animal experiments at the Wuhan Institute, which may have contributed to the global spread of coronavirus, and research at other labs in China that have virtually no oversight from US authorities.” [Emphasis in original]

This is a large multi-country study with Wuhan being one site. The principal investigator, Peter Daszak, is based in NY at EcoHealth Alliance, Inc. [Emphasis in original]

Tabak provides details of the grant to Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance, for a project titled “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence.” Tabak continues, saying, “The 3.7M dollar figure is over 6 years to all sites which include (several in) China, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia and Myanmar. We estimate that approximately $826,300 has been spent at this site since the inception of the grant. Yearly costs appear to be about 80K/year. The grant is in year 6 of a total of 10 year.”

A January 9, 2020, email exchange labeled “high” importance between NIAID Senior Scientific Advisor Dr. David Morens and Daszak details the relationship between the Fauci agency and the Wuhan Institute of Virology:

Morens: Hi guys, do any of you have any inside info on this new coronavirus that isn’t yet in the public domain? Or any thoughts?

Daszak: Yes – lots of information and I spoke with Erik Stemmy and Alan Embry yesterday before the news was released. Erik is my program officer on our coronavirus grant specifically focused on China….

Morens: Thanks, the excitement never ends, right?

Daszak: NIAID has been funding coronavirus work in China for the past 5 years … (1R01Al110964: “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence” ). That’s now been renewed … Collaborators include Wuhan Institute of Virology (currently working on the nCoV), and Ralph Baric [of University of North Carolina].

***

Also-FYI, prior to the R01, we worked under an R01 with Eun-Chung Park as program officer on viral discovery in bats, where originally identified SARS-CoV as having a likely origin in bats (published in Science)….

Morens: Great info, thanks. Tony doesn’t maintain awareness of th

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Thursday, June 10, 2021 5:44 AM

Syria nd Belarus have joined the board of the China puppet WHO.

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Wednesday, June 16, 2021 3:30 AM

Started by Sept 2019 in Italy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_201
9


Quote:

A study reports antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 receptor-binding domain were reported in 111 (11.6%) of 959 asymptomatic participants in a lung cancer screening trial in Italy from September 2019, which the authors claim may indicate an earlier start to the COVID-19 pandemic.



America by December (I got it in November 2019):
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/06/15/new-study-suggests-coronavirus-
could-have-been-here-by-mid-december-2019-n396922


https://www.sciencealert.com/covid-19-may-have-been-in-us-by-december-
2019


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Saturday, June 19, 2021 3:20 PM

Canada-U.S. border closure extended again, until July 21
https://globalnews.ca/news/7961418/covid-canada-us-border-closed-july-
21
/

California rolls out digital vaccine verification — but don't call it a passport.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-rolls-digital-vaccine-verificati
on-175820438.html

vaccine paper corona passports have arrived in the United States of America, passport covid papers or whatever you want to call them.

COVID-19: Italy imposes five-day quarantine for British visitors from Monday over Delta variant fears
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-italy-imposes-five-day-quarantine-
for-british-visitors-from-monday-over-delta-variant-fears-12335849


Singapore's experience says it could be more prudent to impose 21 days?


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Tuesday, June 22, 2021 6:57 PM

What the media has been reporting on for a straight week and calling "news" is that Governor Holcomb of Indiana is being sued by two parties over ending the federal unemployment benefits on June 19th instead of September 6th.

No. It's not news when a week after the story broke you're just copying and pasting what the first outlet ran a week prior.


Allow me to do your job for you. Unpaid.

https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/CaseSummary/eyJ2Ijp7IkNhc2VUb
2tlbiI6InlKMDYya01oVkJrZ1FkTk1lSE1peWZGWWdrSnR2anNua1owWXA2VWVwQUkxIn19


The hearing is set for tomorrow at 11:00AM

It seems the Governor didn't like the judge on the case, so he requested a new judge be swapped in. They also filed for a continuance on the same day. It's unclear if either of those motions will be entertained or not.



You can skip the first 39 parts of the complaint and go right to 40.

It seems that the Governor is in violation of state law when he ended the benefits early. No wonder he wants a change of judges.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 9:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It seems the Governor didn't like the judge on the case, so he requested a new judge be swapped in. They also filed for a continuance on the same day. It's unclear if either of those motions will be entertained or not.



https://www.wboi.org/post/indiana-judge-make-decision-soon-federal-une
mployment-benefits#stream/0


Quote:

Before the hearing, the state's legal team asked to delay the injunction debate, but was denied. It also submitted a request to change judges.


What the story fails to mention is that it looks like they were also denied being able to change judges as well since John Hanley is still on the case.



Unfortunately, I didn't archive the links to the case. It appears that Indiana is doing their best to scrub it from existence as the link is gone and I can't find any evidence that it or any of the numerous PDF files attached even existed.

Tough titty for them that I did happen to have both the initial complaint for declaratory judgement and Governor Holcomb's request to replace a judge he didn't like with a friendly judge in my browser cache...



It would be a shame if somebody were to upload those somewhere else, huh?

https://gofile.io/d/PRhRyJ
https://gofile.io/d/VIHIl3

OPPS

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Tough titty for them that I did happen to have both the initial complaint for declaratory judgement and Governor Holcomb's request to replace a judge he didn't like with a friendly judge in my browser cache...



It would be a shame if somebody were to upload those somewhere else, huh?

https://gofile.io/d/PRhRyJ
https://gofile.io/d/VIHIl3

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You are insanely paranoid, 6ix. I could find the document:
www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/ind-unemployment.pdf

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/nwitimes.com/content/tncm
s/assets/v3/editorial/9/10/910cc653-881a-5ef2-834f-09e52089fc3c/60c91fd719cc4.pdf.pdf


www.courthousenews.com/unemployment-aid/

www.theindianalawyer.com/articles/unemployed-argue-state-must-accept-e
xtra-benefits


www.theindianalawyer.com/articles/legal-aid-group-files-lawsuit-to-kee
p-enhanced-jobless-benefits-flowing


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Tough titty for them that I did happen to have both the initial complaint for declaratory judgement and Governor Holcomb's request to replace a judge he didn't like with a friendly judge in my browser cache...



It would be a shame if somebody were to upload those somewhere else, huh?

https://gofile.io/d/PRhRyJ
https://gofile.io/d/VIHIl3

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You are insanely paranoid, 6ix. I could find the document:
www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/ind-unemployment.pdf

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/nwitimes.com/content/tncm
s/assets/v3/editorial/9/10/910cc653-881a-5ef2-834f-09e52089fc3c/60c91fd719cc4.pdf.pdf


www.courthousenews.com/unemployment-aid/

www.theindianalawyer.com/articles/unemployed-argue-state-must-accept-e
xtra-benefits


www.theindianalawyer.com/articles/legal-aid-group-files-lawsuit-to-kee
p-enhanced-jobless-benefits-flowing


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Not paranoid.

The state took it down. The entire case was wiped from the state website.

Good that other people grabbed it and put it up too.




Even better that I'm so fucking deep in your head that you needed to find it yourself.

Pleasant dreams sweetie.

Now it's you, Marcos and me living in that little brain of yours.


It's really dirty in here. Filthy, in fact. Did you fire the maid?

When are you going to clean up all of these Trump/Pence 2020 signs? The election was over half a year ago.



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Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:27 AM

Here is another reference to the case:
www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/lawsuit-seeks-to-stop-go
vernor-from-ending-pandemic-unemployment-benefits-early/article_cba9d6ca-0526-52dc-89f2-876b93e2c612.html


One sentence buried deep in the Indiana Code may prevent Republican Gov. Eric Holcomb from following through on his plan to cut off out-of-work Hoosiers from the $300 a week in supplemental federal unemployment assistance.

A lawsuit filed Tuesday in Indianapolis claims a state law originally adopted in 1947 requires the governor "to secure to the state of Indiana and to employers and employees in Indiana all the rights and benefits" conferred under federal unemployment law. http://iga.in.gov/legislative/laws/2020/ic/titles/022/#22-4-37-1

It argues Holcomb's actions to withdraw Indiana from the expanded unemployment benefits enacted in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic prior to the Sept. 6 expiration of those benefits runs afoul of the statute and must be stopped.

"The Legislature passed a law creating a right to these benefits, and we're asking Governor Holcomb to follow the law," said Jon Laramore, executive director of Indiana Legal Services (ILS).

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:43 AM

Yup. There's a ton of websites that covered it. And they all repeated the same story. None of them mentioned when the hearing was.

What you posted is no different than the article that was plagiarized off of whoever wrote it first and put up all over the place.

Go ahead, minion. Look for yourself and post all of the other links that say the exact same thing as the article you just posted.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 4:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. There's a ton of websites that covered it. And they all repeated the same story. None of them mentioned when the hearing was.

What you posted is no different than the article that was plagiarized off of whoever wrote it first and put up all over the place.

Go ahead, minion. Look for yourself and post all of the other links that say the exact same thing as the article you just posted.

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If you want to stay posted, go to http://mycase.in.gov and search for case number 49D11-2106-PL-020140

Then click the link for 49D11-2106-PL-020140 which sends you to page that looks like:

06/14/2021
Case Opened as a New Filing
06/14/2021
Complaint/Equivalent Pleading Filed
Summons_Commissioner Frederick Payne.pdf
Summons_Governor Eric Holcomb.pdf
Complaint for Declaratory Judgment and Injunctive Relief.pdf
COMPLAINT
Filed By:
C., J.
Filed By:
Concerned Clergy of Indianapolis
Filed By:
S., J. H.
Filed By:
S., S. A.
Filed By:
L., T.
File Stamp:
06/14/2021

. . . . skipping a bunch of stuff . . .


06/23/2021
Hearing
Session:
06/23/2021 11:00 AM, Judicial Officer: Hanley, John F
Result:
Commenced and concluded

06/23/2021
Response Filed
Response in Opposition to Preliminary Injunction
Filed By:
Holcomb, Eric
Filed By:
Payne, Frederick
File Stamp:
06/23/2021

06/23/2021
Appearance Filed
Appearance of Lauren Lattea for Defendants
For Party:
Holcomb, Eric
For Party:
Payne, Frederick
File Stamp:
06/23/2021

06/23/2021
Administrative Event
Parties by counsel; Defendants' Motion for Continuance Denied; Hearing held on Plaintiffs' Emergency Motion for Preliminary Injunction; Matter taken under advisement.

06/23/2021
Order Denying Motion for Continuance
Judicial Officer:
Hanley, John F
Order Signed:
06/23/2021

Click on those links to see the pdf file for each tiny thing that happened in court.
The lawyers produce a lot of paper. By this afternoon or maybe tomorrow afternoon there will be more paper to look at.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:35 PM

Good job. That was actually helpful.

That link is showing all of the documents I had access to the day before the case. I don't know why my link stopped working last night when I checked it but it worked just fine a day earlier.


It doesn't look good for Holcomb, does it?

What do you suppose will happen to him if it is decided that the benefits need to continue but he already screwed that up by terminating whatever contract he had with the federal government?

I'm sure at that point it would become national news on every Lefty shill site out there.


I was bummed when he didn't get the boot last election, but now I might end up with quite a lot of entertainment since he just won't go away.



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Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:52 PM

Yup. Seems there's a reason Holcomb doesn't want Hanley on the case.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/06/15/judge-refuses-halt-bmv-
overcharge-lawsuit-orders-mediation-effort/71263558
/

Not sure how that case ultimately turned out, but looks like the citizens of Indiana were getting raped out of millions on vehicle taxes for years and Hanley wasn't going to let them just sweep it under the rug.

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Friday, June 25, 2021 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It doesn't look good for Holcomb, does it?

What do you suppose will happen to him if it is decided that the benefits need to continue but he already screwed that up by terminating whatever contract he had with the federal government?

The only reason Governor Holcomb is not paying unemployment is because GOP governors in more than two dozen states ended jobless aid ahead of schedule — in an effort to push people back to work. If Holcomb loses the case, then it will cost the Federal government, not Gov. Holcomb, $300 per week per person. Nothing happens to Holcomb, other than either he has to sign a letter to cancel this previous letter ( EX 2.pdf ) or the letter is signed by Frederick D. Payne, Commissioner, Department of Workforce Development:

INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT

Eric J. Holcomb, Governor
Frederick D. Payne, Commissioner

NOTICE OF INTENT TO TERMINATE AGREEMENTS

Pursuant to Paragraph XI of the “Agreement Implementing the Relief for Workers Affected by Coronavirus Act,” please accept this as the required 30 day notice of termination of the agreement and participation in the programs listed below as of June 19, 2021:

o Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (Agreement Paragraph XIV and Addendum No. 1)

o Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation (Agreement Paragraph XIV and Addendum No. 4)

o Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (Agreement Paragraph XIV and Addendum No. 2)

o Mixed Earners Unemployment Compensation (Addendum No. 5)

DATED: May 17, 2021

Frederick D. Payne, Commissioner

www.npr.org/2021/06/14/1006149643/republican-governors-in-25-states-en
d-jobless-aid-early


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, June 25, 2021 9:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
If Holcomb loses the case, then it will cost the Federal government, not Gov. Holcomb, $300 per week per person. Nothing happens to Holcomb, other than either he has to sign a letter to cancel this previous letter ( EX 2.pdf ) or the letter is signed by Frederick D. Payne, Commissioner, Department of Workforce Development:



Are you positive about that?

The defense claims that they've already gone through the legal process to end it and "don't even know if it can be reversed now".

Eric proves again that he's not very competent at his job.

I think I speak for everyone in the state when I say we miss Mitch Daniels.

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Friday, June 25, 2021 8:39 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Are you positive about that?

The defense claims that they've already gone through the legal process to end it and "don't even know if it can be reversed now".

The whole point 25 GOP governors were trying to make was to help employers by forcing the unemployed to get minimum wage jobs by denying the unemployed $300 per week from the Federal government. The GOP governors were successful in stopping the $300.

If the judge eventually disappoints the employers by ordering the Indiana governor to pay that $300, it will be easy for governor to give away money. The very hard part, sometimes even impossible, is having money in the bank so that you can give it away. President Biden will do the hard part by providing the money in the bank, leaving Indiana's governor to do the easy part, give it away. The governor's attorneys will say giving away $300 can't be done, but the judge might tell the governor that it can easily be done and if the governor doesn't hand out $300 checks then he will be guilty of contempt.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, June 25, 2021 8:59 PM

Biden* doesn't have a "hard part" here either. There's nothing hard about printing money. Especially when it's all fabricated 1's and 0's that were already allocated to the task.

But I'm interested in seeing how much red tape there is here. It will be hilarious if this all backfires on dirtbag Holcomb and people get stuck without unemployment benefits for 6 weeks because he violated state law that was enshrined before he was born.

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Saturday, June 26, 2021 9:10 AM

Holcomb made an ass of himself.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2021/06/25/judge-rules-pandemic-un
employment-benefits-must-continue-indiana/5350352001
/

Quote:

Judge: Federal pandemic unemployment benefits must continue in Indiana


I knew I should have bought some pop corn.



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Saturday, June 26, 2021 3:07 PM

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Holcomb made an ass of himself.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2021/06/25/judge-rules-pandemic-un
employment-benefits-must-continue-indiana/5350352001
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Judge: Federal pandemic unemployment benefits must continue in Indiana


I knew I should have bought some pop corn.



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Different state. Different governor. Same political party. But no judge has stepped in to contradict the governor:

Thousands of Texans file lawsuit against Gov. Abbott for ending federal unemployment benefits

Thousands of Texans have banded together and hired an attorney to file suit to block Gov. Greg Abbott from ending emergency federal unemployment benefits before the programs expire in September.

The plaintiffs, two groups that organized over Facebook with more than 30,000 people, argue that the decision to end the benefits early exceeded the governor’s authority, according to the lawsuit, filed this week in state district court in Austin. The benefits, aimed at providing relief to workers during the pandemic, are scheduled to expire Saturday under Abbott’s order.

Abbott last month ordered the early end to federal programs that provided supplemental payments of $300 a week to unemployed workers and extended jobless benefits to gig workers and other self-employed people not covered by the traditional unemployment system. Abbott argued that job openings in the state are plentiful and the additional benefits were no longer needed.

His office did not respond to a request for comment.

The move was praised by employers, who have complained that generous unemployment benefits were discouraging workers from taking jobs, leading to a labor shortage. Economists say the reasons for reported labor shortages are more complex than that.

On Friday, Judge Dustin Howell denied a temporary restraining order to block the governor from ending the federal benefits while the case is proceeding.

The plaintiffs are asking the court to order the Texas Workforce Commission to make the decision on whether and when to end the benefits. They acknowledge that the workforce commission could reach the same decision as the governor, but it would delay when the federal benefits would expire.

The two unemployment groups are crowdsourcing to be able to pay legal fees. So far, they have raised more than $8,000 to cover the estimated $15,000 it will cost in legal fees.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20210626021217/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/business/article/Thousands-of-Texans-file-a-suit-against-governor-16274618.php


Texas 2022 Elections
Analysis: The most influential non-voter in Texas
The most important voter in Texas politics in 2022 doesn't even live in the state, but he's popular with Republican voters. Donald Trump's influence is already changing next year's GOP primary.
www.texastribune.org/2021/06/24/texas-greg-abbott-donald-trump/

Trump Just Cost Jobless Workers One Week of $300
Dec 27, 2020 — By not signing the bill before the end of day Saturday, Trump has effectively cut a week of $300 federal unemployment benefits for jobless people.
www.businessinsider.com/trump-just-cost-jobless-workers-one-week-of-un
employment-benefits-2020-12


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Saturday, June 26, 2021 8:07 PM

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Trump Just Cost Jobless Workers One Week of $300
Dec 27, 2020 — By not signing the bill before the end of day Saturday, Trump has effectively cut a week of $300 federal unemployment benefits for jobless people.
www.businessinsider.com/trump-just-cost-jobless-workers-one-week-of-un
employment-benefits-2020-12




But that story ended up proving false.

There were no lapse in benefits.

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Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:15 AM

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If Holcomb loses the case, then it will cost the Federal government, not Gov. Holcomb, $300 per week per person. Nothing happens to Holcomb, other than either he has to sign a letter to cancel this previous letter ( EX 2.pdf ) or the letter is signed by Frederick D. Payne, Commissioner, Department of Workforce Development:

Are you positive about that?

The defense claims that they've already gone through the legal process to end it and "don't even know if it can be reversed now".

Eric proves again that he's not very competent at his job.

I think I speak for everyone in the state when I say we miss Mitch Daniels.

In a state with Libtard Governor, we still cannot eat in most restaurants. Not because of covid, but because none of the businesses can get any workers to come to work.

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Sunday, June 27, 2021 11:05 AM

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If Holcomb loses the case, then it will cost the Federal government, not Gov. Holcomb, $300 per week per person. Nothing happens to Holcomb, other than either he has to sign a letter to cancel this previous letter ( EX 2.pdf ) or the letter is signed by Frederick D. Payne, Commissioner, Department of Workforce Development:

Are you positive about that?

The defense claims that they've already gone through the legal process to end it and "don't even know if it can be reversed now".

Eric proves again that he's not very competent at his job.

I think I speak for everyone in the state when I say we miss Mitch Daniels.

In a state with Libtard Governor, we still cannot eat in most restaurants. Not because of covid, but because none of the businesses can get any workers to come to work.



Maybe they should pay them more.

They've not seen a pay increase for 20 years.

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Sunday, June 27, 2021 11:16 AM

I'll bet nobody in the news is going to report on this additional piece that was filed in the lawsuit. It's freakin' hilarious.

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COMPLAINT FOR DECLARATORY JUDGMENT AND INJUNCTIVE RELIEF Motion for the Court to add an Interested party to the lawsuit

The Interested Party is just a person who wants to set in the dugout and watch the game played and not interfere.

The Interested Party has a problem with what was called a pandemic but now is known as a bio weapon thrown upon the Citizens of the United States of America, by the Chinese Government and the Interested Party understands that Governor Holcomb had to make decisions for the health and safety of the residents of the State of Indiana.

However in this decision making Governor Holcomb ordered Self employed people lo drop their businesses, thus Self employed people were placed out of work by the Governor's Order. Then Self employed people whom suffered without any income and suffered financially are being denied unemployment checks.

The denial of Unemployment to self employed people looks like discrimination against the Self employed.

The benefits of unemployment are the monies that are provided by the taxpayers from taxes and never before more needed than in this national emergency from this Bio attack upon the United States of America.

The Court should demand that Indiana Workforce pay all that is due to the self—employed as well.



Yes. Those typos you see do exist in the actual court filing.


Aren't there still idiots in the media and Leftits that deny this was a Chinese attack?

They change their hypocritical minds so freely these days, one can be forgiven for not keeping up with whatever bullshit they believe from day to day.

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Monday, June 28, 2021 8:11 PM

Nobody has any thoughts on that entry above? Huh.




Looks like organizations from several other states are fighting it now as well. I've heard rumor on reddit that there is similar language in other state laws which could lead to the same conclusion (obviously, take that with a grain of salt until anything happens).

States I've heard that are going to have a fight over this now are Texas, Georgia and Maryland. There may be more.




Nobody in Indiana has actually been able to file their voucher for the week ending 6/26/2021 yet. The login page which updates new information has said since late Friday that there will be some vague system maintenance being performed Monday afternoon (It even mentioned something about Windows). This message is no longer on the page as of Monday morning, but people's claims had still been marked as "expired" through Sunday. This is obviously a front to hide the fact that they need to open these claims back up to people as any down period for the regularly scheduled Thursday evening maintenance is rare.

Interestingly though, the front page never made any mention about benefits being terminated early in the weeks leading up to 6/19/2021 either. To get those messages you had to be logged in or read the email(s) that were sent to you.


I'd actually be willing to bet that 1/2 of the people on Unemployment weren't even aware that their benefits had been terminated if not for this court case and are wondering why they still can't file their voucher for last week, despite the emails and warnings printed post-login. Yanno... leading horses to water and all of that.

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Tuesday, June 29, 2021 3:35 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Are you positive about that?

The defense claims that they've already gone through the legal process to end it and "don't even know if it can be reversed now".

The whole point 25 GOP governors were trying to make was to help employers by forcing the unemployed to get minimum wage jobs by denying the unemployed $300 per week from the Federal government. The GOP governors were successful in stopping the $300.

If the judge eventually disappoints the employers by ordering the Indiana governor to pay that $300, it will be easy for governor to give away money. The very hard part, sometimes even impossible, is having money in the bank so that you can give it away. President Biden will do the hard part by providing the money in the bank, leaving Indiana's governor to do the easy part, give it away. The governor's attorneys will say giving away $300 can't be done, but the judge might tell the governor that it can easily be done and if the governor doesn't hand out $300 checks then he will be guilty of contempt.



Guess Biden* better do the hard part and get that printing press back out.

Because right now it looks like Holcomb and the Indiana DWD are in violation of a court order and are claiming that the money isn't there, just like I predicted they would.



https://web.archive.org/web/20210628212926if_/https://www.indystar.com
/story/money/2021/06/28/indiana-unemployment-payments-limbo-amid-legal-battle/7788033002
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The Indiana Department of Workforce Development has not yet continued payment of federal unemployment benefits this week despite a judge ordering the state to do so temporarily. The state is appealing that decision.

"DWD is determining how to proceed because the federal programs no longer exist after their termination on June 19," said DWD spokesman Scott Olson in an email. "There is no action that a claimant needs to take right now. Updated information will be provided on DWD’s website."

It's unclear if DWD will pay out benefits during as the challenge to Holcomb's decision is hear in court.



Jesus Christ, IndyStar. Get a fucking editor. How dare you charge people for your newspaper when you write sentences like that last one in the article?

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Tuesday, June 29, 2021 11:02 AM

https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/

CASE NO.:49D11-2106-PL-020140

Defendants, having filed their Motion for Change of Judge, and the Court, being advised, now GRANTS the motion.

Date June 28, 2021

signed by The Honorable John F. Hanley, Judge, Marion Superior Court 11

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Tuesday, June 29, 2021 11:11 AM

On what basis does that get decided? Holcomb doesn't like the judgement, so he gets to put somebody in there that will give him the one he wants?

At this point, it's really moot. It's being reported now that they might not even be able to get an appeal until after September 9th.

But they're saying that they don't have the funds, and they aren't telling anybody anything.

If the laws were applied equally to everyone, Holcomb would be sitting in a jail cell right now.

https://www.wishtv.com/news/i-team-8/dwd-stay-tuned-for-federal-unempl
oyment-benefits-put-in-question-by-judge
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Tuesday, June 29, 2021 4:46 PM

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On what basis does that get decided? Holcomb doesn't like the judgement, so he gets to put somebody in there that will give him the one he wants?

At this point, it's really moot. It's being reported now that they might not even be able to get an appeal until after September 9th.

But they're saying that they don't have the funds, and they aren't telling anybody anything.

If the laws were applied equally to everyone, Holcomb would be sitting in a jail cell right now.

https://www.wishtv.com/news/i-team-8/dwd-stay-tuned-for-federal-unempl
oyment-benefits-put-in-question-by-judge
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I am sure that The Honorable John F. Hanley, Judge, Marion Superior Court 11 decided it was too much trouble standing against what Governor Holcomb wanted, so the judge let somebody else volunteer to be judge of this case. Holcomb wins because switching judges delays paying unemployment benefits. Delays are almost as good as an outright win. Holcomb is on the side of employers wanting to force the unemployed to take minimum wage jobs. Holcomb wins really, really big if the only volunteer judges are ones who have already decided in favor of Holcomb's position of NEVER paying $300 per week unemployment benefits.

Why does Governor Holcomb want the unemployed working at minimum wage? Easy to answer: CEOs can’t stop talking about the US labor shortage. From Urban Outfitters to Chewy, CEOs can’t stop talking about the labor shortages they’re seeing both in the US and globally.

The number of corporate calls with at least one mention of “labor shortage” is surging, according to transcripts collected by Sentieo, a financial research company. Up until 2021, there had been fewer than 60 mentions per quarter of the phrase “labor shortage.” In the second quarter of 2021, “labor shortage” was referenced 136 times.

“You certainly can’t have a conversation with any business person across America, certainly, and I think fast coming across the globe, without labor shortages and tightness in markets coming up,” said Marie Robinson, executive vice president and chief supply chain officer of food-distributing giant Sysco, on a May 20 analyst call.

https://qz.com/2025987/from-fedex-to-chewy-ceos-are-talking-about-the-
labor-shortage
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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:03 AM

Judge suspends early cutoff of unemployment aid in Indiana, saying it could cause "irreparable harm"

Marion Superior Court Judge John Hanley on Friday ruled that Indiana must continue to provide the enhanced jobless aid until the lawsuit is decided. He added that "a preponderance of evidence" indicates that the early termination of extra federal unemployment benefits violates state law, and noted that curtailing the aid could cause hardship for some in the state.

www.cbsnews.com/news/indiana-unemployment-judge-early-cutoff/

http://mycase.in.gov and search for case number 49D11-2106-PL-020140
06/25/2021 Order Granting Motion for Finding of Fact and Conclusions of Law

JUDGMENT
IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED, ADJUDGED, AND DECREED that Defendants, Governor Eric Holcomb and Commissioner Frederick Payne, their officers, employees, and agents; all persons acting in active concert or participation with any Defendant, or under any Defendant’s supervision, direction, or control; and all other persons within the scope of Indiana Trial Rule 65, are enjoined from withdrawing the State of Indiana from unemployment benefits offered through the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (“CARES”) Act until this Court renders a final judgment on the merits. Indiana shall notify the U.S. Department of Labor immediately of its continued participation in the CARES Act programs pending further action by this Court.

ALL OF WHICH IS ORDERED, ADJUDGED AND DECREED THIS 25th DAY OF JUNE, 2021.

JUDGE, MARION SUPERIOR COURT, CIVIL DIVISION, ROOM NUMBER ELEVEN

No press release, yet, from Indiana Department of Workforce Development
www.in.gov/dwd/news-and-events/

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 3:06 AM

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Judge suspends early cutoff of unemployment aid in Indiana, saying it could cause "irreparable harm"

Marion Superior Court Judge John Hanley on Friday ruled that Indiana must continue to provide the enhanced jobless aid until the lawsuit is decided. He added that "a preponderance of evidence" indicates that the early termination of extra federal unemployment benefits violates state law, and noted that curtailing the aid could cause hardship for some in the state.

www.cbsnews.com/news/indiana-unemployment-judge-early-cutoff/

http://mycase.in.gov and search for case number 49D11-2106-PL-020140
06/25/2021 Order Granting Motion for Finding of Fact and Conclusions of Law

JUDGMENT
IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED, ADJUDGED, AND DECREED that Defendants, Governor Eric Holcomb and Commissioner Frederick Payne, their officers, employees, and agents; all persons acting in active concert or participation with any Defendant, or under any Defendant’s supervision, direction, or control; and all other persons within the scope of Indiana Trial Rule 65, are enjoined from withdrawing the State of Indiana from unemployment benefits offered through the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (“CARES”) Act until this Court renders a final judgment on the merits. Indiana shall notify the U.S. Department of Labor immediately of its continued participation in the CARES Act programs pending further action by this Court.

ALL OF WHICH IS ORDERED, ADJUDGED AND DECREED THIS 25th DAY OF JUNE, 2021.

JUDGE, MARION SUPERIOR COURT, CIVIL DIVISION, ROOM NUMBER ELEVEN



Yup. Read that one when it was posted.

That's why I said if the law was applied equally to everyone, Holcomb would be sitting in a jail cell right now. At least until they got off their asses and figured this out.

That is, unless their argument that the word "enjoined" in this case simply meant they were "urged" not to discontinue the benefits, but since enjoined was followed by "from" and this was a legal case, I don't think that argument is going go fly.

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No press release, yet, from Indiana Department of Workforce Development
www.in.gov/dwd/news-and-events/



If you don't count when the papers report they supposedly said they don't know what to do because the money is no longer there, they haven't said a single word about it.





P.S. It has been reported that the change in judge was granted because that's the rules of the local law.

Supposedly, the final hearing wouldn't take place until both parties agree on a new choice of judge.

With one more wrench thrown into Holcomb's plans only after decreeing that the benefits still need to be paid out until a final judgement is rendered, Hanley might end up being a hero to 230,000+ residents.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:10 AM

In Blow to GOP Narrative, Missouri Cut to Jobless Benefits Not Boosting Hiring
"It's almost as if the pandemic unemployment benefits weren't the issue."

Economists and progressive lawmakers have argued in recent weeks that what Republicans, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and others have dubbed a "labor shortage" fueled by supposedly excessive unemployment benefits is in fact a wage shortage caused by businesses refusing to pay their employees adequately.

"There may be areas where some employers are struggling to staff positions, but the likely obstacle is not overly generous UI benefits—instead it is wage offerings that are too low to make these jobs attractive," David Cooper, a senior economic analyst at the Economic Policy Institute, wrote in a blog post last month.

The anecdotal experiences of some businesses in recent weeks seem to bolster that interpretation. Earlier this month, the Washington Post cited the story of Klavon's Ice Cream Parlor, a Pittsburgh shop that was struggling to find applicants for open jobs for which it was offering to pay $7.25 an hour plus tips.

"So owner Jacob Hanchar decided to more than double the starting wage to $15 an hour, plus tips, 'just to see what would happen,'" the Post reported. "The shop was suddenly flooded with applications. More than 1,000 piled in over the course of a week."

www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/28/blow-gop-narrative-missouri-cut-j
obless-benefits-not-boosting-hiring


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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 7:14 AM

The Government and Legacy Media spent an entire year telling people that their jobs were not essential.

Nobody stopped and thought that those people might agree after a year of not working them?


If your lines at Burger King and McDonalds are too long for you at the drivethru right now, Boo-Fucking-Hoo.

Go flip your own burgers.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 7:23 AM

DOL hasn't mentioned it at all either.

I'm sure they could use the excuse that Indiana and Holcomb hasn't even let them know, but now that it's a national news story I don't see how that could fly.

Lot's of people panicking now.

Holcomb should be jailed.

You know you would be for violating a court order.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 9:17 AM

Lot's of rents due in 2 days.

Not just here in Indiana, but everywhere else where they just cut everybody off.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 9:20 AM

Jeez... They've been talking about $2,000 checks for everyone every month?

No wonder Biden* ain't down with that one.

That's over $1,200 more than they're telling me I'll get per month if I retire at 62.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 9:31 AM


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The Government and Legacy Media spent an entire year telling people that their jobs were not essential.

Nobody stopped and thought that those people might agree after a year of not working them?


If your lines at Burger King and McDonalds are too long for you at the drivethru right now, Boo-Fucking-Hoo.

Go flip your own burgers.

I bet a pun about flipping somebody off could have been worked into that somehow.

This is an interesting pandemic result. People always felt that job stress - needing to keep your job no matter how much it sucked and how little it paid - was a normal part of life. And then it wasn't. A year of not having to suck it up, and of not being at the mercy of business, has changed a lot of attitudes, at least for now.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 11:06 AM

I've lived like that since I was laid off of my last real job in 2009, and I don't intend to stop now.

It's even easier to do after I cut my expenses in half by quitting drinking.



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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 4:52 PM

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I've lived like that since I was laid off of my last real job in 2009, and I don't intend to stop now.

It's even easier to do after I cut my expenses in half by quitting drinking.

Welcome to the counterculture, 6ix. With your expanded consciousness, you are now a hippie:
Turn on, tune in, drop out

'Turn on' meant become sensitive to the many and various levels of consciousness and the specific triggers that engage them.
'Tune in' meant interact harmoniously with the world around you.
'Drop out' suggested an active, selective, graceful process of detachment from involuntary or unconscious commitments. Paid Work, in other words.

Perspectives: Can we ‘turn on, tune in and drop out’?
OPINION – About five months ago, I deliberately ended a long-term relationship I’d been in for more than 30 years. I stopped listening to the radio, reading the newspaper or watching TV news. Breaking up with the media was one of the best choices I’ve ever made. I feel happier and wiser for having done so.
www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2017/05/22/perspectives-can-we-turn-
on-tune-in-and-drop-out
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:41 PM

I've never been part of the culture man.

Democrats in 2021 just aren't what they used to be. Not sure how you didn't notice that change taking place.

I'm still voting for Trump in 2024, and I'll be voting against Holcomb for a 2nd time too.



It strikes me as odd that you seem to appreciate the article that you posted in the link. It sounds like something I would have written.

But when it comes from my keyboard, you dismiss it and try to make me feel bad that I'm not rich.



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Thursday, July 1, 2021 7:16 AM

Holcomb is going all in on this and trying to fast track the appeal.

99.99999% of Indiana residents who aren't named Eric Holcomb would be sitting in a jail cell right now.

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Thursday, July 1, 2021 5:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It strikes me as odd that you seem to appreciate the article that you posted in the link. It sounds like something I would have written.

But when it comes from my keyboard, you dismiss it and try to make me feel bad that I'm not rich.

I have been thinking about your answer for hours, then I realized that I'm going make you feel bad. You did NOT understand a damn thing about that article on the media, which says:
Quote:

I stopped listening to the radio, reading the newspaper or watching TV news. Breaking up with the media was one of the best choices I’ve ever made. I feel happier and wiser for having done so.
www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2017/05/22/perspectives-can-we-turn-
on-tune-in-and-drop-out
/

The writer did NOT claim the media was lying to him or untrustworthy. The problem was that the media was bad for his mental health.

The same is true about you not understanding Timothy Leary's Turn on, tune in, drop out which was Leary's message that the American Dream was bad for your mental health. Getting very specific: I remember those were the days when America was building a stockpile with 70,000 H-bombs/A-bombs, which was completely crazy because if even 100 bombs were dropped, and Russia did NOT retaliate at all (to make the physical calculation easier) the physics of radioactive fallout would have killed millions of Americans and hundreds of millions of non-Americans. That is a completely crazy way to fight a war and Timothy Leary knew it about America. The media was NOT diagnosing how crazy the Pentagon (and America) had become because of H-bombs or the Vietnam War or generalized greediness and materialism. The media wasn't lying about Vietnam/H-bombs/greediness, but the media was afraid to tell you clearly that the American Dream of World Domination and Super Wealth was insanity. It still is insane.

A little bit about Hugh Everett and H-bombs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Everett_III#After_Princeton

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 1, 2021 6:12 PM

Nothing you could ever say would ever make me feel bad dude.

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The writer did NOT claim the media was lying to him or untrustworthy. The problem was that the media was bad for his mental health.




I'm claiming both. The media is bad for all of our mental health because they pedal in lies and propagate hate to sell boner pills.

If he missed that fact, it's only because he's not as smart as I am.

Otherwise, the article sounds exactly like something I would have written.

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Friday, July 2, 2021 8:10 AM

Uh oh, Eric...

Your lawbreaking has landed on the radar of both NPR and the HuffPost.

It's now a national issue... and you're a criminal.

And seriously dude, have you ever seen a treadmill before? Don't listen to your tailor fatty. That suit ain't hiding shit.




Oh... and about what I said about Biden* avoiding this issue at all cost for political reasons yesterday?

HuffPost even mentions that Biden* is "curiously quiet" over the issue.

Quote:

Despite Injunction, Indiana Won’t Restart Federal Unemployment Benefits

The state suggested it couldn’t pay the benefits even if it wanted. The Biden administration is curiously quiet.



https://www.huffpost.com/entry/indiana-unemployment-bennefits_n_60de11
51e4b0b94d34dfcb70


Quiet? Yes.
Curious? No.

Not curious at all if you have two brain cells firing and aren't a party shill. But thanks for mentioning it though.





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Friday, July 2, 2021 6:21 PM

Pretty sure Eric is just trying to see the inside of a jail cell at this point...

Quote:

“It is necessary and proper to take further action to protect the health, safety and welfare of all Hoosiers in connection with COVID-19 and, specifically, to renew the state of disaster emergency”




https://www.in.gov/gov/files/Executive-Order-21-16-Sixtenth-Renewal-of
-Emergency-Declaration.pdf


Yup. As of yesterday, he just used an executive order to extend the health disaster emergency another 30 days.



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Saturday, July 3, 2021 8:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Pretty sure Eric is just trying to see the inside of a jail cell at this point...

Quote:

“It is necessary and proper to take further action to protect the health, safety and welfare of all Hoosiers in connection with COVID-19 and, specifically, to renew the state of disaster emergency”




https://www.in.gov/gov/files/Executive-Order-21-16-Sixtenth-Renewal-of
-Emergency-Declaration.pdf


Yup. As of yesterday, he just used an executive order to extend the health disaster emergency another 30 days.



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Oh... I see. There's cash in it for him.

We must end Unemployment benefits IMMEDIATELY!

But if we keep the emergency orders in place then the Medicaid and other Federal money that Eric will mismanage keeps rolling in.


Labor Secretary is "watching" this unfold, but keeping his mouth shut.


Hopefully the law firms that brought up the case held out and didn't just let Fatass get the appeal judge that he wanted.

He had no intention of ever following Hanley's order and somehow managed to break records getting the appeal case for this to happen next week.

I don't recall ever hearing an appeal case happening that quick. Eric REALLY hates poor people in his state.


At least we have photographic evidence that he's not worried about where his next meal is coming from. Dude eats 5,000 calories per day.

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Sunday, July 4, 2021 1:28 AM

Good luck Maryland.

But Hogan is probably just going to fuck you like Holcomb fucked Indiana, and the Biden* administration is going to sit on the sidelines for political reasons.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/jobless-benefits-hogan-maryland/2
021/07/03/0c75c324-db46-11eb-bb9e-70fda8c37057_story.html


I'm sure Hogan will continue the state of emergency for that free money he approves of though.



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Wednesday, July 7, 2021 6:08 AM

I think it's about time to start getting Eric fit for an orange jumpsuit.

2 weeks have passed and he's still disobeying a court order, claiming that there's nothing they can do about it.

Meanwhile, after a similar court order in Maryland, federal unemployment benefits continue to roll out in that state without any interruption.


It's not a good idea to lie to a judge, Eric.



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Thursday, July 8, 2021 8:29 AM

Now you're on TIME's radar, Eric.

https://time.com/6078388/myth-generous-unemployment-benefits/

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Friday, July 9, 2021 6:53 AM

Per the Chicago Tribune:

Quote:

A spokesperson for the Department of Labor told The Associated Press on Wednesday that the federal government will accept states back into the programs after they’ve terminated the benefits, noting that the agency is working with Indiana officials to make technical or other changes needed to comply with the court orders.


So Eric, are you going to keep lying about this now?

If you were a wise man you'd quietly let that appeal case disappear and hope that the national news stops bringing up your name every day as more states fight the early endings of the programs.

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Saturday, July 10, 2021 8:59 AM

Armed guards block every office at the Indiana DWD office building except for one. DWD is refusing any requests for news agencies to interview somebody or even to have any questions answered.

I think something big is about to go down.

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Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:54 AM

You'd better figure it out now, Eric.

Even with the judge you wanted, you didn't get the verdict you wanted.


You really should stop lying about not being able to do it too. Maryland is, and the DOL has said it isn't a problem.

https://www.indystar.com/story/money/2021/07/12/appeals-court-orders-s
tate-continue-federal-unemployment-benefits/7941315002
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Saturday, July 17, 2021 7:12 PM

Congratulations to the unemployed in Indiana.

https://www.wthr.com/article/money/business/indiana-paying-out-federal
-unemployment-benefits-after-court-order-pua-peuc-extension-appeal-waiver-apply/531-5137800b-5896-4660-a774-a19043057ff0


Quote:

INDIANAPOLIS — Indiana paid out 25,000 claims for federal unemployment benefits in the first day after reinstating them due to a court order.

The state said around 120,000 people lost those benefits after Gov. Eric Holcomb ordered they be stopped as he moved to end Indiana's participation in the federal CARES program.

...

Those began again July 15, and DWD said 25,000 had already been processed for more than $30 million. Those benefits include the $300 weekly add-on, Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) and Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation (PEUC). Payments for those will be retroactive to the week ending June 26. The final payment after the governor's order had been made, went out the week ending June 19.

Workers who have since found employment will still receive retroactive payments for claims filed for the weeks they were unemployed. If the courts later rule Holcomb can end the federal unemployment benefits in Indiana, no money will need to be paid back from anyone already receiving a payment.



It will be interesting to see if Holcomb is going to continue this fight or if he just lets it fall through the cracks now, after two judges ruled against him.

Unlike when he immediately went on record saying that he would appeal when the Marion County judge ruled against him, he doesn't have any comment this time.

Since it appears that there hasn't been a proper hearing yet and it's just been two judges saying that the payments must continue until there is one, who is to say that the switch can't be turned off again at any time. At least it's known that if it happens the people who are getting unemployment (and retroactive weeks) right now don't have to stress over the prospect that they'd have to pay all of that back if an appeal is successful between now and September.


Good luck to any other states ending these programs early. Every one of you should be fighting this. ESPECIALLY in states where your Governor shut off unemployment but continues to extend the State of Emergency like Holcomb did.


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