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Friday, May 21, 2021 6:26 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Lies, lies.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

Saying "Lies, lies" all the time is not being truthful, 6ix. Instead say "I don't care. What difference does it make for me how many die?" Tell the truth about yourself, 6ix. Stop hiding your true motivations behind short declarative sentences such as 'Lies, lies!' or 'Fake News!'

True COVID-19 global death toll is likely 2 to 3 times higher than official count of 3.4 million, warns WHO

Last Updated: May 21, 2021 at 7:41 a.m. ET

The number of global deaths caused by the coronavirus-borne illness COVID-19 is likely far higher than official numbers suggest, as all countries are struggling to provide accurate statistical models and counts, the World Health Organization said Friday.

The agency’s annual “state of the world’s health” assessment presented in its World Health Statistics report for 2021, found that as of Dec. 31, 2020, the true number of global COVID deaths was at least 3 million, or 1.2 million more than the 1.8 million officially reported at the time. www.who.int/data/gho/publications/world-health-statistics

For weeks now, India COVID patients have been dying in ambulances while waiting for hospital beds and for oxygen. Officials have found bodies washing up on the banks of the Ganges River, raising concerns that poorer people who can no longer afford costly cremations are dumping bodies there.

China, where the virus was first discovered late in 2019, has had 102,822 confirmed cases and 4,846 deaths, according to its official numbers, which are widely held to be massively underreported. China, with a population of 1.39 billion, has fewer deaths, according to its official numbers, than Ireland, with a population of just 4.9 million. Ireland’s official death toll is 4,941.

www.marketwatch.com/story/true-covid-19-global-death-toll-is-likely-2-
to-3-times-higher-than-official-count-of-3-4-million-warns-who-11621595605


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 21, 2021 8:24 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Saying "Lies, lies" all the time is not being truthful, 6ix.



Yes. It is.

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Instead say "I don't care. What difference does it make for me how many die?"


No. That would be a lie.

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Tell the truth about yourself, 6ix.


I'm always doing that here. Warts and all.

Take your own advice. Liar.

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Stop hiding your true motivations behind short declarative sentences such as 'Lies, lies!' or 'Fake News!'


Which motivations are those?

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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Sunday, May 23, 2021 5:30 AM

Bio Make Up of Corona
Cryo-EM Structure of an Extended SARS-CoV-2 Replication and Transcription Complex Reveals an Intermediate State in Cap Synthesis
mRNA requires sequential reactions facilitated by the replication and transcription complex
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867420315336#fi
gs2


Quebec reports lowest number of new COVID-19 cases since September.
https://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/ts/news/canada/2021/05/22/queb
ec-reports-lowest-number-of-new-covid-19-cases-since-september.html


EU advises against second AstraZeneca shot for people with blood clots
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/eu-regulat
or-advices-against-second-astrazeneca-shot-those-with-blood-clots-2021-05-21
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Sunday, May 23, 2021 5:46 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by second:
Saying "Lies, lies" all the time is not being truthful, 6ix.



Yes. It is.

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Instead say "I don't care. What difference does it make for me how many die?"


No. That would be a lie.

Quote:

Tell the truth about yourself, 6ix.


I'm always doing that here. Warts and all.

Take your own advice. Liar.

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Stop hiding your true motivations behind short declarative sentences such as 'Lies, lies!' or 'Fake News!'


Which motivations are those?

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

6ix, I am from Texas, where every other person is a liar. One of the key traits of Texas liars is to defend themselves with a fire hose of even more lies. They never fight back with facts. The Texas liars figure that lying got them into trouble and lying will get them back out again. 6ix, you never use facts like a truthful and sane person would. You never even use facts. You just blow hot air all the time, even in your above reply. If you were a fundamentally truthful person, you would have ignored the whole thing and gone about your business. But, no!, you've got to write back and defend your honor. You Trumptards are so funny, but being crazy in the head and ultra-touchy does not get you ahead in the world.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, May 23, 2021 5:48 PM

Vaccines have been met with suspicion and hostility for as long as they have existed.

“Vaccine hesitancy has less to do with misunderstanding the science and more to do with general mistrust of scientific institutions and government,” says Maya Goldenberg, a philosophy expert at the University of Guelph, Ontario, who studies the phenomenon.

“The reasons people have hesitated reflect the cultural anxieties of their time and place,” Goldenberg says. People worried about toxins arising during environmentalism in the 1970s and people in countries steeped in civil war have perceived vaccines as government weapons.

18th Century - Smallpox vaccine sets the stage around the globe

In a way, anti-vaccination attitudes predate vaccination itself. Public vaccination began after English physician Edward Jenner learned that milkmaids were protected from smallpox after exposure to cowpox, a related virus in cows. In 1796, Jenner scientifically legitimized the procedure of injecting people with cowpox, which he termed variolae vaccinae, to prevent smallpox. However, variolation — which staved off serious smallpox infections by triggering mild infection through exposure to material from an infected person — dates back to at least the 1000s in Asia, Africa and other parts of the world. In some cases people inhaled the dried scabs of smallpox lesions or rubbed or injected pus from smallpox lesions into a healthy person’s scratched skin.

About 1 to 2 percent of people — including a son of Britain’s King George III in 1783 — died from the procedure, far fewer than the up to 30 percent who died from smallpox. Benjamin Franklin rejected variolation, but later regretted it when smallpox killed his youngest son. Onesimus, an enslaved man in Boston, taught the procedure to Puritan minister Cotton Mather, who in turn urged doctors to inoculate the public during a 1721 smallpox outbreak. Many refused, and Mather faced hostility: A small bomb was thrown through his window. Reasons given for avoiding variolation — particularly that it was unnatural to interfere with a person’s relationship with God — were the seeds of later anti-vaccination attitudes.

19th Century - The first vaccination laws kindle resistance

In 1809, Massachusetts passed the world’s first known mandatory vaccination law, requiring the general population to receive the smallpox vaccine. Resistance began to grow as other states passed similar laws. Then the U.K. Vaccination Act of 1853 required parents to get infants vaccinated by 3 months old, or face fines or imprisonment. The law sparked violent riots and the formation of the Anti-Vaccination League of London. Vaccine resisters were often poor people suspicious of a forced medical intervention since, under normal circumstances, they rarely received any health care. Anti-vaccination groups argued that compulsory vaccination violated personal liberty, writing that the acts “trample upon the right of parents to protect their children from disease” and “invaded liberty by rendering good health a crime.”

Anti-vaccination sentiment grew and spread across Europe until an 1885 demonstration of about 100,000 people in Leicester, England, prompted the British monarchy to appoint a commission to study the issue. The resulting 1896 report led to an 1898 act that removed penalties for parents who didn’t believe vaccination was safe or effective. The act introduced the term “conscientious objectors,” which later became more commonly associated with those who refuse military service on religious or moral grounds.

Across the Atlantic, most U.S. residents had embraced Jenner’s cowpox protective, leading to a precipitous drop in smallpox outbreaks. But with fewer outbreaks, complacency set in and vaccination rates dropped. As smallpox outbreaks resurfaced in the 1870s, states began enforcing existing vaccination laws or passing new ones. British anti-vaccinationist William Tebb visited New York in 1879, which led to the founding of the Anti-Vaccination Society of America. The group’s tactics will sound familiar: pamphl

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THG
Sunday, May 23, 2021 6:03 PM

Deaths

595,101


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Sunday, May 23, 2021 6:39 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Deaths

595,101



That cannot be correct because 6ixStringJack says the number is zero! He has also said he is not Republican but maybe he is a liar? Can't be sure because 6ix is "innocent until proven guilty" to quote a phrase frequently used by 1kiki to defend Trump's mendacity and incompetency.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, May 23, 2021 7:22 PM

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Originally posted by second:
6ix, I am from Texas, where every other person is a liar.



I'm from earth where everybody lies.

Shut the fuck up.

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by THG:
Deaths

595,101



That cannot be correct because 6ixStringJack says the number is zero!



That's right.

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He has also said he is not Republican but maybe he is a liar? Can't be sure because 6ix is "innocent until proven guilty" to quote a phrase frequently used by 1kiki to defend Trump's mendacity and incompetency.


I'm not on trial.


If I were, I'd submit my post history. Yanno, the one that I've never edited over the years to cover up my bad behavior. You're the one that does that buddy. Too bad for you I've got your assassination calls archived.

Any jury would read about my posts about the GOP and the GWB administration and know that I'm clearly not a Republican.

Maybe Ted should be put on trial. He loves the McCains, the Bushes, Romney, Bolton and pretty much every piece of trash big name NeoCon in the 21st century.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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THG
Sunday, May 23, 2021 7:26 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Deaths

595,101



That cannot be correct because 6ixStringJack says the number is zero! He has also said he is not Republican but maybe he is a liar? Can't be sure because 6ix is "innocent until proven guilty" to quote a phrase frequently used by 1kiki to defend Trump's mendacity and incompetency.




You nailed it SECOND, both are wackjobs.

T

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Sunday, May 23, 2021 7:27 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Deaths

595,101



That cannot be correct because 6ixStringJack says the number is zero! He has also said he is not Republican but maybe he is a liar? Can't be sure because 6ix is "innocent until proven guilty" to quote a phrase frequently used by 1kiki to defend Trump's mendacity and incompetency.




You nailed it SECOND, both are wackjobs.




Eat my balls, NeoCon dicklicker Ted.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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