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Financial news: Propaganda, American-style

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Monday, May 17, 2021 9:11 AM

Much of the US media attention directed to China is unrelated to news in any sense, but is part of an extensive propaganda program designed to inflict serious discomfort on China’s government, using the political pressure of the media in attempts to force China to accommodate US and European political and commercial interests. This is often done in attempts to mitigate the punishment for corporate crimes (especially of corporate executives, who are virtually immune from criminal prosecution in the US), or to assist an American (or European) multinational in trashing other countries’ consumer and food safety laws. This is not limited to China; such a media barrage can occur against the best of friends, including Canada, Germany, France and the UK.

The important point here is that a media flood does not happen by accident. These circumstances are created by plan, with meetings, discussions, strategies arranged to create the most discomfort and political pressure, and will almost certainly involve the corporation, many members of the media, the US Commerce Department and, as often as not, the intelligence agencies.

These people are skilled at mounting a mass media campaign to present their colored version of events to the Court of Public Opinion, hoping to create sufficient domestic and foreign pressure to sway a foreign government’s position on political, social, and commercial issues. The intelligence agencies will do their part by paying heavily for domestic newspaper articles if they can arrange them, and by flooding a country’s social media (China in this case) with CIA sock puppets purporting to be native Chinese who side with the foreign company’s position against their own government. This is the primary reason Twitter and Facebook are banned in China.

Beijing’s Bite of the Apple

Briefly, the situation was that Apple was offering warranties outside the US that were much inferior to those at home, drawing flak from most governments in Europe and Asia. Chinese consumer law, like that of European nations, classified Apple’s ipad as a computer and demanded a 2-year warranty. Apple, being too greedy for its own good, refused, insisting that the ipad was a phone and providing only a one-year warranty. Hence, an enormous amount of media noise attacking China and its regulations and much else, in attempts to create sufficient unpleasantness that the government would back down and permit Apple to continue to plunder Chinese consumers at will. A second prime objective was to teach the Chinese to cast a fearful eye at “US interests” before embarking on any consumer protection laws more stringent than those in the US.

In real life, neither the NYT or WSJ could care less about China’s warranty regulations on computers, but when Apple, the darling of the US stock market, is having trouble plundering Chinese consumers to its heart’s content, the NYT and WSJ are always there to lend a helping hand. And you, dear reader, are taught to hate the Chinese for being unreasonable and ‘picking on’ Apple because they are dictatorial communists who hate your freedoms. As well, the propaganda masters widely claimed the Chinese government, envious of Apple’s success, wanted to cripple Apple to provide breathing space and support for China’s hoped-for “national champions”. (1) (2) (3) The entire series of US media reports about Apple in China were political and commercial propaganda designed to (a) insulate American firms from foreign laws, and (b) create sufficient public pressure to ensure a foreign government designed its domestic laws to please the Americans.

Alibaba – Almost as big as China

In early 2021 we had a spate of articles about Alibaba’s unfortunate collision with Chinese financial authorities, resulting in the cancellation of the company’s imminent IPO and Jack Ma being rather strongly reined in (slapped down, actually). (4) The US media were unanimous in claiming Chin

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Monday, May 17, 2021 11:38 AM

This is biased reporting.
Did you forget that all Doctors always abide the Hypocratic Oath?

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Monday, May 17, 2021 3:24 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This is biased reporting.
Did you forget that all Doctors always abide the Hypocratic Oath?


Sarcasm doesn't really come thru on the inet.

When you post sarcastically, you should end your posts with /snark so it's clear to others howto intepret your words.

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Monday, May 17, 2021 5:31 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This is biased reporting.
Did you forget that all Doctors always abide the Hypocratic Oath?


Sarcasm doesn't really come thru on the inet.

When you post sarcastically, you should end your posts with /snark so it's clear to others howto intepret your words.

NOT sarcasm: Signym posted from http://thesaker.is/propaganda-and-the-media-deception-on-a-grand-scale
-part-2
/

What is that website? The Saker has become a franchise for an international network of pro-Kremlin outlets, with branches in German, Italy, Latin America, and Russia. A Saker is a sort of falcon, falco cherrug, endemic to the steppes of Eurasia. The name of the blog is an anagram of the blogger’s name.

The Saker connects Russian nationalist groups and outlets with North American anti-Semite groups; Russian communists with French and Italian right-wing activist. Devote Christians with aggressive thugs. It’s a successful franchise in disinformation.

More at https://euvsdisinfo.eu/the-saker-blind-loyalty-disguised-as-defiance/

The Saker banner says Stop the Empire's War on Russia.
Russian troll Signym quotes Russian troll The Saker.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 17, 2021 5:56 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

In a nearly identical circumstance, two prominent European medical experts recently swore that at least some current COVID-19 vaccines contain a female hormone with a function similar to hCG and that the vaccines have the potential to function as an abortifacient. (23) (24) I have not researched this one thoroughly and cannot testify to the validity, but I can offer the following: . . .
But the salient point here is that neither of these two cases rated even a mention anywhere in the Western mainstream media – at least none that I could find.

I can find mainstream media for Signym:

1. Why COVID Vaccines are Falsely Linked to Infertility
www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210112/why-covid-vaccin
es-are-falsely-linked-to-infertility


2. The COVID-19 Vaccine Has Been Falsely Linked To Infertility.
www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a35782633/covid-19-vaccine-infertility/

3. The ex-Pfizer scientist who became an anti-vax hero
www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/special-report-ex-
pfizer-scientist-who-became-an-anti-vax-hero-2021-03-18
/

More by googling do biontech-pfizer variants cause sterilization
www.google.com/search?q=do+biontech-pfizer+variants+cause+sterilizatio
n


It turns out that Russian trolls have to troll: Signym is selling to you the Russian vaccine, Sputnik V, by denigrating the Pfizer vaccine.
www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sputnik-v-covid-19-vaccine-how-much-
do-we-know-about-its-side-effects


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 17, 2021 7:18 PM

Russians have nothing to do with my decision to never get this vaccine.

You can have mine, old man.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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Monday, May 17, 2021 7:59 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Russians have nothing to do with my decision to never get this vaccine.

You can have mine, old man.

In the entire 21st century I have not been sick even once, possibly because I get vaccinated: flu, pneumonia, shingles, covid-19, tetanus, etc. I only picked the vaccine out of the long list of bitching by Signym because Signym is an advocate for being vaccinated. I thought it was peculiar that Signym was attacking vaccinations. Also, it was very easy to prove that mainstream media is NOT avoiding the questions, although Signym says the media is: "But the salient point here is that neither of these two cases rated even a mention anywhere in the Western mainstream media – at least none that I could find." I could find thousands of mentions. I must be lucky: www.google.com/search?q=do+biontech-pfizer+variants+cause+sterilizatio
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 17, 2021 11:52 PM

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Syncytin-1 also known as enverin is a protein found in humans and other primates that is encoded by the ERVW-1 gene (endogenous retrovirus group W envelope member 1). Syncytin-1 is a cell-cell fusion protein whose function is best characterized in placental development.[3][4] The placenta in turn aids in embryo attachment to the uterus and establishment of a nutrient supply.

The gene encoding this protein is an endogenous retroviral element that is the remnant of an ancient retroviral infection integrated into the primate germ line. In the case of syncytin-1 (which is found in humans, apes, and Old World but not New World monkeys), this integration likely occurred more than 25 million years ago.[5] Syncytin-1 is one of two known syncytin proteins expressed in catarrhini primates (the other being syncytin-2) and one of many viral genomes incorporated on multiple occasions over evolutionary time in diverse mammalian species.[6]

Wikipedia

So, in other words, Syncytin-1 is in the human and ape genome because of an infection with a retrovirus that inserted its genes into egg or sperm DNA 25 million years ago and has been there ever since. There are also many other viral fragments of VIRAL DNA embedded into human DNA.

So, one of the things that a virus must do is FUSE with human cells in order to insert its viral load into human protein-making machinery.

There are two POSSIBLE sources of Syncytin-1 or Syncytin-1-like code in a vaccine: either the vaccine-maker chose that snippet of viral code as part of the package that you're supposed to become immune to, or (for viral-vectored vaccines) as part of the actual virus that carries in the Covid-19 fragments and inserts them into the human cell.

It should be easy to determine whether Syncytin-1 is in a vaccine, since it's been thoroughly decoded by now and everyone knows what it is. There's no mystery there.

I doubt that Syncytin-1 is in the Pfizer vaccine. However, one thing about SARS-Cov2 that makes it look like a gain-of-function bioengineered virus is that it has some code that other coronaviruses don't have which makes it EXTREMELY efficient at docking onto and fusing with human cells.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So, in other words . . .

Are COVID-19 vaccines safe in pregnancy?
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7927763/
www.nature.com/articles/s41577-021-00525-y.pdf
Quote:

The data so far suggest that it is and, given the increased risks associated with COVID-19 in pregnancy, many pregnant people have decided to accept the vaccine. By monitoring the outcomes for these people and their babies, we will soon be able to make evidence-based recommendations on whether the vaccines should be rolled out to pregnant people more widely. In the meantime, those who are planning pregnancies can rest assured that multiple strands of evidence show that vaccination does not harm fertility.
There are many more citations shooting down the Russian trolls' attacks on Western (not Russian) vaccines :
www.google.com/search?q=Syncytin-1+pfizer

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 2:18 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Russians have nothing to do with my decision to never get this vaccine.

You can have mine, old man.

In the entire 21st century I have not been sick even once, possibly because I get vaccinated: flu, pneumonia, shingles, covid-19, tetanus, etc. I only picked the vaccine out of the long list of bitching by Signym because Signym is an advocate for being vaccinated. I thought it was peculiar that Signym was attacking vaccinations. Also, it was very easy to prove that mainstream media is NOT avoiding the questions, although Signym says the media is: "But the salient point here is that neither of these two cases rated even a mention anywhere in the Western mainstream media – at least none that I could find." I could find thousands of mentions. I must be lucky: www.google.com/search?q=do+biontech-pfizer+variants+cause+sterilizatio
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

BTW way to go for misrepresenting my POV! Just bc I post an article in it's entirety doesn't mean I agree with every single point.

My niece, an ER doctor, got the vaccine while pregnant after weighing the risk of doing something v the risk of doing nothing, and everything is fine.

But FWIW I'm not GLOBALLY in favor of ALL vaccines. That big push to vaccinate all kids against HPV because SOME girls will get it and a much smaller percentage will go on to develop cervical dysplasia, and and even smaller percentage will develop cervical cancer - both easily detected and treated - against what seemed to be a rather sizeable incidence of deaths, didn't pencil out on the risk/risk evaluation, at least with the early version of the vaccine.

Also, dear daughter was deferred from the whole-cell pertussis vaccine when she was young bc of its neurological complications. They now have an acellular version which much safer.

The polio vaccine administered by the Gates Foundation in India also seems to have a high complication rate (paralysis) so there's something going on with that, too.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 3:34 AM


That SLOPPY should LIE about someone's post is nothing new, it's his SOP of record ... and he does it because he's a sociopath with no morals.


But back to the topic at hand -

Here's a real life example of how the m$m - in this case the NYTimes - is part and parcel of the false narrative designed to propagandize us, every day, in every way.

From today's NYTimes:

Quote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-d
ata.html

Censorship, Surveillance and Profits: A Hard Bargain for Apple in China

Apple built the world’s most valuable business on top of China. Now it has to answer to the Chinese government.

... interviews with 17 current and former Apple employees and four security experts, and new filings made in a court case in the United States last week provide rare insight ... at how Apple has given in to escalating demands from the Chinese authorities.

Apple now assembles nearly all of its products and earns a fifth of its revenue in the China region.

Mr. Cook often talks about Apple’s commitment to civil liberties and privacy.

That last quoted line is completely laughable.



A general comment about the article you posted, Signy. I find it entirely fascinating because it brings together a lot of 'what' and 'how'. But if people weren't convinced by their own experience of the Iraq war and the non-stop, wandering, ludicrous, completely unverified claims of the Bush the deux administration whoring for a war with Iraq ... bioweapons! yellowcake! centrifuge tubes! mobile labs! east, west, north AND south! (somewhat) (You really narrowed it down, eh Rummy?) MUSHROOM CLOUDS !!!! ... AND HOW THE m$m ACTED AS A PROPAGANDA ARM OF TPTB - then this article isn't going to do it for them.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 3:40 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

BTW way to go for misrepresenting my POV! Just bc I post an article in it's entirety doesn't mean I agree with every single point.

Signym, you quoted a very long article that attacked everything, put everything under suspicion, but one tiny part of that multi-pronged attack was on vaccines. In at least that one area, it is easy to push back against the wide ranging trolling attack on all things West of Russia which flies a banner: Stop the Empire's war on Russia.
http://thesaker.is/propaganda-and-the-media-deception-on-a-grand-scale
-part-2
/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 7:23 AM

The article that I posted didn't mention Russia. Not once. Not even tho it dealt with USA foreign policy. In fact, it was all about China.

The only person obsessing about it is you and your fellow idiots, SECONDRATE.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:28 AM


Signy, did you ever wonder why SLOPPY's posts have nothing to do with anybody else's posts here?

I found out that it's because they literally have nothing to do with anybody else's posts here.

And I found that out when I tracked him to another website where he posted literally the EXACT SAME post that he posted here. And where he was doing EXACTLY what he does here, which is nonstop trolling.


Aside from a completely gratuitous quote or the mention of a name, his posts have nothing at all to do with anybody here, except to anger and frustrate people with his canned posts and libel.



Because he's a sociopath.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 5:36 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The article that I posted didn't mention Russia. Not once. Not even tho it dealt with USA foreign policy. In fact, it was all about China.

The only person obsessing about it is you and your fellow idiots, SECONDRATE.

I point you to the banner on the article: "Stop the Empire's war on Russia." Do you realize the article was two pages? Page One is at http://thesaker.is/propaganda-and-the-media-part-1-introduction/ :
Quote:

Hate literature

Almost without exception, anything leading you to form a negative opinion of (usually) a country or its people, is propaganda, normally to build support for outrageous political action or in preparation for the next war. You need think only of the constant stream of negative news items about Russia

Signym, do you now understand the article you quoted was by a Russian, Larry Romanoff, bitching about America? Writers hidden behind a nom de plume seem to think that each piece they write stands alone, wiped clean of their dirty fingerprints, but that is not true. While Romanoff was writing a million words, he was also creating a picture of himself as pissed off at the United States, much the same as Trump's million words creates a picture of himself as crazy, stupid, and pissed off at Democrats. But you don't have to read a million words from Trump to see that about him. One paragraph from yesterday is enough: www.donaldjtrump.com/desk/desk-q7wsgfnztk/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:11 PM



SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

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Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:


SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

Never is a strong word. You and Signym are trolls and I am a troll-hunter. Since this thread is called Financial News, here is some:

President Donald Trump paid just $750 in federal income taxes the year he ran for president and in his first year in the White House, according to a report Sunday in The New York Times.

Trump, who has fiercely guarded his tax filings and is the only president in modern times not to make them public, paid no federal income taxes in 10 of the past 15 years.

The details of the tax filings complicate Trump’s description of himself as a shrewd and patriotic businessman, revealing instead a series of financial losses and income from abroad that could come into conflict with his responsibilities as president. The president’s financial disclosures indicated he earned at least $434.9 million in 2018, but the tax filings reported a $47.4 million loss.

The tax filings also illustrate how a reputed billionaire could pay little to nothing in taxes, while someone in the middle class could pay substantially more than him. Roughly half of Americans pay no income taxes, primarily because of how low their incomes are. But IRS figures indicate that the average tax filer paid roughly $12,200 in 2017, about 16 times more than what the president paid.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-business-ny-state-wire-ap-top-
news-nyc-wire-f0e2af5f9f99de9d30dc6b9097121188


While Trump was paying nothing, Biden paid $157,414 in federal income tax this week.
www.npr.org/2021/05/17/997758204/biden-harris-release-tax-returns-in-r
eturn-to-tradition


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by SECONDRATE:
RUSSIA!! blah blah blah TRUMP!! blah blah blah...


FIFY

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Wednesday, May 19, 2021 2:09 AM


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SLOPPY:
more trolling



fify

SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

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Thursday, May 20, 2021 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Signy, did you ever wonder why SLOPPY's posts have nothing to do with anybody else's posts here?

I found out that it's because they literally have nothing to do with anybody else's posts here.

And I found that out when I tracked him to another website where he posted literally the EXACT SAME post that he posted here. And where he was doing EXACTLY what he does here, which is nonstop trolling.


Aside from a completely gratuitous quote or the mention of a name, his posts have nothing at all to do with anybody here, except to anger and frustrate people with his canned posts and libel.



Because he's a sociopath.

He takes every oppty to slag Trump, Republicans, and half of America (sometimes ALL of America!), and American insitutions (Electoral College, free speech, innocent until proven guilty, States' rights, American borders etc), whether it has anything to do with the actual topic at hand, or was totally fabricated by the M$M wing of the CIA, or immediately contradicts something else that he just posted.

He has no interest in reality or truth. I call it "throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks" bc he's on a hateAmerica propaganda mission.

OOC which website did you track him to?

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Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:15 AM


I'd have to go back into my records for that website name. It was small, had limited participation like this one, was unmoderated, and seemed to be maintained by a single person, though not as well as this. It got my browser warning going about malicious software.

I accessed its contents through google cache rather than clicking on through.

Though the post there was literally the word-for-word exact same post as SLOPPY's post here, and posted on the same date as here, overall the website seemed nearly inactive when I visited a few years ago. It may not even be in existence anymore.

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