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Some Covid-19 thoughts

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THG
Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:07 PM


I wonder if those here who dispute the death toll in American due to the virus, would care to post at least once proof it's wrong, with their source of course, and what they believe the correct number is?

Do they have the balls to expose themselves further as being morons, easily duped by fake news and trolls?



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Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:17 PM

Nope.

Your numbers are lies. Use your brain.

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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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Monday, May 3, 2021 5:55 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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Derek Parfit put a bullet into the brain of people who mindlessly chirp "Morals, however, are subjective in many cases." Mammals and most every human will only have subjective feelings to guide them (and their subjectivity sure as hell shows in how ineffectively they live, work and die) but if you are a tiny bit smarter than a house cat or more mindful than the average person, you will have Parfit to show you that what feels right isn't notably right.
Morals are preferences and by their very nature are entirely subjective. Some people even call them 'values' - ie we really really prefer, or 'value', one behavior over another - which only highlights their subjective nature even further. There are no objective morals. Because every moral can be questioned with 'why'. And every 'why' answer is a feeling of preference.

Even the theoretical Vulcan value "the greatest good for the greatest number" begs the question 'What is good?'. Some might consider life to be the greatest good. Others might consider meaningful sacrifice to be the greatest good. Greeks and Romans thought bravery in the face of death being meted out by fate was the greatest good.



And btw, your rejection of others' moral failings doesn't seem to have kept you from being an even bigger moral failure (and hypocrite). For example, even as you claim to abhor the mendacity of republicans, you come here and lie with every post. So what does that make you? A better republicans than the rank and file republicans?

I know all about Trumptards' actual morals. Those real morals don't match up to what Trumptards profess for themselves. It's not hypocrisy. It's that they can't. With a little temptation, they fail moral tests. I'm not sure if they notice they failed. Must be some protective psychological mechanism that blinds them, makes them insensitive. Maybe because on the inside they are robots. Maybe they are the philosopher's zombies pretending to be people, but without consciousness. I don't know, but I can see that people who go through life without consciousness have a hard time staying in the middle class. They, when white, vote for Trump -- the man who never had a moral in life. That is a dead giveaway that little Trumptards are almost as hollow inside as big Trump.
A Short List of Mr. Trump’s History:
www.gcrr.org/addendum-b

Trump fed our worst instincts:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/27/trump-fed-our-wo
rst-instincts-his-global-legacy-is-toxic-and-immoral


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 3, 2021 6:03 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nope.

Your numbers are lies. Use your brain.

The Biggest Remaining Challenge in Stopping the Coronavirus: Miscreants and freeloaders are holding up the rest of us.

On April 15, at a hearing on the coronavirus pandemic, Rep. Jim Jordan harangued Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Jordan, an outspoken critic of mask mandates, demanded to know when Americans would “get their liberties back and be able to move on with their lives.” Fauci explained that the answer depended on progress in vaccination, which in turn depended on how many people were willing to roll up their sleeves. Jordan, who had passed up an invitation to get vaccinated in December—and had reiterated in March that he was in “no hurry” to get his shot—ignored Fauci’s point and went on with his tirade.

This is the paradox we’re dealing with as we try to get control of the virus: People who won’t get vaccinated—in many cases, the same people who defy mask orders and other public health measures—are holding us back from resuming normal life. In many cases, they’re deliberate freeloaders. They’re counting on the rest of us to suppress the pandemic—and thereby protect them—by getting vaccinated, while they refuse to do the same.

Millions of people won’t wear masks, won’t respect social distance, won’t quarantine when they’re exposed to the virus, won’t take recommended precautions to protect the vulnerable—and won’t get vaccinated when it’s their turn, either. A nation of Anthony Faucis is trapped in a nation of Jim Jordans.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20210503105049/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2021/05/coronavirus-challenge-vaccine-refusers.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 3, 2021 6:57 PM

Fuck your guilt tactics.

I predicted long ago you would be using them. Long before your Media Masters planted that seed into your pea brain.

Fuck Fauchi. Fuck the CDC. Fuck the WHO. Fuck the vaccine. Fuck the masks. Fuck the Legacy Media. Fuck the fear. Fuck the guilt.

Fuck you.

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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:08 AM


SLOPPY, you come here and lie with every post - then you criticize republicans for being liars. The only lesson I think you learned in Vietnam is that once you got scammed, it made you free to scam everyone else.

And the only problem you have with Trump is that he was far more successful at it than you.

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Wednesday, May 5, 2021 4:51 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

SLOPPY, you come here and lie with every post - then you criticize republicans for being liars. The only lesson I think you learned in Vietnam is that once you got scammed, it made you free to scam everyone else.

And the only problem you have with Trump is that he was far more successful at it than you.

A story from what Trump calls "The Failing New York Times": How Humanity Gave Itself an Extra Life

Between 1920 and 2020, the average human life span doubled. How did we do it? Science mattered — but so did activism. ("activism" is the part that Trumptards and Trump get weird about.)

In September 1918, a flu virus began spreading through Camp Devens, an overcrowded military base just outside Boston. By the end of the second week of the outbreak, one in five soldiers at the base had come down with the illness. But the speed with which it spread through the camp was not nearly as shocking as the lethality. “It is only a matter of a few hours then until death comes,” a camp physician wrote. “It is horrible. One can stand it to see one, two or 20 men die, but to see these poor devils dropping like flies sort of gets on your nerves. We have been averaging about 100 deaths per day.”

The devastation at Camp Devens would soon be followed by even more catastrophic outbreaks, as the so-called Spanish flu — a strain of influenza virus that science now identifies as H1N1 — spread around the world. In the United States, it would cause nearly half of all deaths over the next year. In what was already a time of murderous war, the disease killed millions more on the front lines and in military hospitals in Europe; in some populations in India, the mortality rate for those infected approached 20 percent. The best estimates suggest that as many as 100 million people died from the Great Influenza outbreak that eventually circled the globe. To put that in comparison, roughly three million people have died from Covid-19 over the past year, on a planet with four times as many people.

There was another key difference between these two pandemics. The H1N1 outbreak of 1918-19 was unusually lethal among young adults, normally the most resilient cohort during ordinary flu seasons. Younger people experienced a precipitous drop in expected life during the H1N1 outbreak, while the life expectancies of much older people were unaffected. In the United States, practically overnight, average life expectancy plunged to 47 from 54; in England and Wales, it fell more than a decade, from a historic height of 54 to an Elizabethan-era 41. India experienced average life expectancy below 30 years.

During the century since the end of the Great Influenza outbreak, the average human life span has doubled. There are few measures of human progress more astonishing than this. If you were to publish a newspaper that came out just once a century, the banner headline surely would — or should — be the declaration of this incredible feat. But of course, the story of our extra life span almost never appears on the front page of our actual daily newspapers, because the drama and heroism that have given us those additional years are far more evident in hindsight than they are in the moment. That is, the story of our extra life is a story of progress in its usual form: brilliant ideas and collaborations unfolding far from the spotlight of public attention, setting in motion incremental improvements that take decades to display their true magnitude.

This kind of progress is measured not in events but in nonevents: the smallpox infection that didn’t kill you at age 2; the accidental scrape that didn’t give you a lethal bacterial infection; the drinking water that didn’t poison you with cholera. In a sense, human beings have been increasingly protected by an invisible shield, one that has been built, piece by piece, over the last few centuries, keeping us ever safer and further from death. It protects us through countless interventions, big and small: the chlorine in our drinking water, th

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THG
Wednesday, May 5, 2021 4:56 PM

Deaths

584,116


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Wednesday, May 5, 2021 6:46 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Deaths

584,116





Nope.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:05 PM

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/two-months-later-hows-the-liftin
g-of-the-mask-mandate-going-in-texas
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LOL

Democrats caught in another huge hypocrisy.

How do they keep doing this to themselves? /rhetorical questions



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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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