Some Covid-19 thoughts
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Quote:Let me point you to part of that quote: "It is good to kill the babies especially. I am not thinking of this war but of the next one, 20 years from now. The next time the Germans start a war and we have to fight them, those babies will be the soldiers.” The UK has NOT been at war with Germany since 1945, so it was completely amoral to kill babies in preparation for a war that didn't happen.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I find how people think moronic AND amoral, especially about the subject of death.
I agree on the moronic part. A moron is a moron is a moron.
Morals, however, are subjective in many cases.
Derek Parfit put a bullet into the brain of people who mindlessly chirp "Morals, however, are subjective in many cases." Mammals and most every human will only have subjective feelings to guide them (and their subjectivity sure as hell shows in how ineffectively they live, work and die) but if you are a tiny bit smarter than a house cat or more mindful than the average person, you will have Parfit to show you that what feels right isn't notably right.
https://libgen.unblockit.onl/search.php?req=Derek+Parfit
Quote:-- Derek Parfit from the Introduction to Reasons and Persons.
Like my cat, I often simply do what I want to do. I am then not using an ability that only persons have. We know that there are reasons for acting, and that some reasons are better or stronger than others. One of the main subjects of this book is a set of questions about what we have reason to do. I shall discuss several theories. Some of these are moral theories, others are theories about rationality.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Let me point you to part of that quote: "It is good to kill the babies especially. I am not thinking of this war but of the next one, 20 years from now. The next time the Germans start a war and we have to fight them, those babies will be the soldiers.” The UK has NOT been at war with Germany since 1945, so it was completely amoral to kill babies in preparation for a war that didn't happen.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I find how people think moronic AND amoral, especially about the subject of death.
I agree on the moronic part. A moron is a moron is a moron.
Morals, however, are subjective in many cases.
Derek Parfit put a bullet into the brain of people who mindlessly chirp "Morals, however, are subjective in many cases." Mammals and most every human will only have subjective feelings to guide them (and their subjectivity sure as hell shows in how ineffectively they live, work and die) but if you are a tiny bit smarter than a house cat or more mindful than the average person, you will have Parfit to show you that what feels right isn't notably right.
https://libgen.unblockit.onl/search.php?req=Derek+ParfitQuote:-- Derek Parfit from the Introduction to Reasons and Persons.
Like my cat, I often simply do what I want to do. I am then not using an ability that only persons have. We know that there are reasons for acting, and that some reasons are better or stronger than others. One of the main subjects of this book is a set of questions about what we have reason to do. I shall discuss several theories. Some of these are moral theories, others are theories about rationality.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Don't talk to me about that when you're fine with your state forcibly injecting everyone with god knows what, including all the kids.
I find your morals to be repulsive.
It's subjective.
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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.
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Quote:You "feel" it is repulsive. Derek Parfit, by mentioning cats do what they want made me remember when I was a child I heard the phrase "morals of an alley cat." Alley cats are solely guided by their "feelings". I knew as a child that alley cats were fearful, suspicious, secretive and often angry creatures, but I didn't think much of parental wisdom. When I went to war, and later in engineering construction and business, I found that most people I dealt with were being guided all day long by the "morals of an alley cat". Disillusioning experience about most people. The sad and funny part was those people couldn't rise for more than minutes at time above the level of alley cats -- fearful, suspicious, secretive and often angry -- but they keep telling me their low behavior was the absolute pentacle of morality. No, they were no better than alley cats and it showed.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Don't talk to me about that when you're fine with your state forcibly injecting everyone with god knows what, including all the kids.
I find your morals to be repulsive.
It's subjective.
It is too much trouble for Biden to capture and vaccinate all the alley cats of America. He won't try that. Imagine the caterwauling from Trumptards if he did. Trumptards are already making angry noises about what won't happen.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Europe (and the US) Have a COVID-19 Mortality Rate 14x Higher Than Asia
This is the result of both a higher case rate (8x higher) and a higher case mortality rate (70% higher). We still don't have a good explanation for what's going on. There is, obviously, something very, very different going on in Asia, and I doubt that better quarantine and masking rules can truly account for a 14x difference.
https://jabberwocking.com/europe-and-the-us-have-a-covid-19-mortality-
rate-14x-higher-than-asia/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The media in Europe and the States were totally obsessed with Trump, Biden and Brexit that's all they talked about and if you look at the mud slinging in the political threads on firefly that's mostly what happened here.
The focus should have been on the virus instead the focus was about what Trump or Biden said and the media were constantly talking Brexit deals or no deals to leave the EU. In East Europe I believe due to their history they have a very skeptical view on Government and are anti-Restrictions because they remember Communism and the older generation does not fondly remember their past experience with a Soviet governments. Parts of South America are rising, I believe Mexico and Brazil numbers are not good one part of South America can look good and then you get a sudden hot spot in Bolivia for example, I also believe the borders in these countries can be fluid, cross border movement and black market trade happens and borders on South American maps lack security.
Aus might be one of the Western countries that got things right.
Asia and the Pacific region seems to have done well perhaps due to an experience with SARs and MERs, I believe some of these countries are less democratically free so can respond with more restriction and military style response during a pandemic. Australia and NZ got praise but its possible Aussie lockdowns while good for stopping a virus they might have hurt mental health and hurt jobs. It's reported that sunshine and UV radiation can help kill COVID-19 maybe this is helping African nations, also in some African nations they have many others risks and diseases and civil wars to worry about, life expectancy is lower so compared to the West covid might not be such a big killer.
The situation is still fluid with new mutations and evolution of the virus showing up, Japan and India have yet to fully report in, I believe thanks to Olympic sports ceremony numbers are rising again in Japan
Perhaps 3,000 to 4,000 are dying in India now, some blame the rise due to India festivals and political elites doing their election stuff in each city and town. Right now I believe India has +390,000 new cases.
The USA has the most who defeated Covid 25 Million survivors although they might live with their own complications after the virus.
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Quote:Morals are preferences and by their very nature are entirely subjective. Some people even call them 'values' - ie we really really prefer, or 'value', one behavior over another - which only highlights their subjective nature even further. There are no objective morals. Because every moral can be questioned with 'why'. And every 'why' answer is a feeling of preference.
Derek Parfit put a bullet into the brain of people who mindlessly chirp "Morals, however, are subjective in many cases." Mammals and most every human will only have subjective feelings to guide them (and their subjectivity sure as hell shows in how ineffectively they live, work and die) but if you are a tiny bit smarter than a house cat or more mindful than the average person, you will have Parfit to show you that what feels right isn't notably right.
Even the theoretical Vulcan value "the greatest good for the greatest number" begs the question 'What is good?'. Some might consider life to be the greatest good. Others might consider meaningful sacrifice to be the greatest good. Greeks and Romans thought bravery in the face of death being meted out by fate was the greatest good.
And btw, your rejection of others' moral failings doesn't seem to have kept you from being an even bigger moral failure (and hypocrite). For example, even as you claim to abhor the mendacity of republicans, you come here and lie with every post. So what does that make you? A better republicans than the rank and file republicans?
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You "feel" it is repulsive.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Don't talk to me about that when you're fine with your state forcibly injecting everyone with god knows what, including all the kids.
I find your morals to be repulsive.
It's subjective.
Yes. Exactly.
Thank you for making my point.
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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.
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Oh. And I agree with Kiki's perspective on the issue.
It's easy to sit in judgment on your high horse Tweeting what people should and shouldn't be doing all day long like the idiots do, but every single one of them lack the empathy gene and have never once tried walking a mile in somebody else's shoes.
"Let he who is free from sin cast the first stone."
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GOP doctors in Congress are targeting vaccine hesitancy with a video that says the shot will help 'end the government's restrictions on our freedoms'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-doctors-in-congress-are-ta
rgeting-vaccine-hesitancy-with-a-video-that-says-the-shot-will-help-end-the-government-s-restrictions-on-our-freedoms/ar-BB1gguSr?ocid=msedgntp
Too funny. Now it's get the shot but not because it will save your ass. It's obvious they need a way to explain how come they and their loved ones got the shot while telling everyone else there was no need to. Yep, too funny...
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I wonder if those here who dispute the death toll in American due to the virus, would care to post at least once proof it's wrong, with their source of course, and what they believe the correct number is?
Do they have the balls to expose themselves further as being morons, easily duped by fake news and trolls?
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