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Will Your State Regain It's Representation Next Decade?

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
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Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:41 AM

The Census Bureau reportedly announced some results, but nothing new is on the Census website - announcement, press release, data.


https://abc7chicago.com/census-2020-results-illinois-congress/10550084/


Surprise, surprise.
Obiden did manage to massage the numbers enough, so that even though there was a mass exodus from NY and CA, the new announcement says that they stole one seat away from FL, and 2 seats from TX, and gave those seats to NY, CA, RI, and maybe OR.


Quote:

The Census Bureau made the announcement in a livestreamed press conference Monday afternoon.

A total of seven seats shifted as a result of the 2020 census. Oregon, Montana, Florida, North Carolina and Colorado all gained one seat in the House. Texas gained two seats.

Illinois, California, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia all lost one seat as a result of the 2020 census.

A total of 37 states kept the same number of seats in the House of Representatives. Six states will only have one representative in the House: Alaska, Delaware, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont and Wyoming.

Texas, Florida, California and New York are the states that will have the most seats in the House of Representatives. California will have 52, Texas will have 38, Florida will have 28 and New York will have 26.

The release of the apportionment numbers comes almost four months later than planned because of delays caused by the pandemic and anomalies discovered in the data as the numbers were being crunched.

The numbers are state population counts that show how many residents each state has gained or lost over the past decade.

The 435 seats in the House of Representatives are divided among the states based on population. As growing states get more congressional seats because of population gains, that means fewer seats for states that lost population or didn't grow as fast.






Compared to the pre-massaged results:
Quote:

So if population trends from 2018-2019 continue into 2020, and the Census results in the above predictions, then NC, AZ, CO, OR, MT will gain a seat, FL will gain 2 seats, and TX will gain 3 seats.
CA, NY, IL, PA, OH, MI, MN, AL, WV, RI will lose a seat.

The final seats to make the cut are IL, NY, TX, MT, FL. Those missing the cut are AL, MN, OH, CA.

The differences:
They took a seat from AZ (R), FL (R), and TX (R).
They gave an extra seat to RI (D), MN (D), and AL (R).

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Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:02 AM

From prior media reports (not just my calculations):

https://www.breitbart.com/news/watch-live-census-bureau-reveals-1st-re
sults-from-2020-population-count
/

Quote:

The Bureau’s Vintage 2020 Population Estimates released in December showed that 10 congressional districts are likely to shift in 17 states as a result of the new numbers, according to the nonpartisan firm Election Data Services.

Based on those estimates, Texas would gain the most seats, three, while Florida would add two. Arizona, Colorado, Montana, North Carolina and Oregon would each gain a single seat.

States losing seats, meanwhile, are mainly concentrated in the industrial “Rust Belt” states of the Northeast and in the Midwest — as Alabama, California, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and West Virginia are estimated to lose one seat.

Well, looky there. The Census seems to have copied my calculations, coming to the exact same conclusions.

But that was from BEFORE Covid, Lockdowns, mass exodus from CA and NY.




More massaging:
The scramble for the last of the 435 seats for voting members in the House was remarkably close. Minnesota received the final assignment, Karen Battle, chief of the bureau's population division, said during the press conference.

"If New York had had 89 more people, they would have received one more seat," Battle added.

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Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:12 AM

Also, last week HR51 was passed in the House, the D.C. Statehood bill.

If D.C. becomes a State, then it would lose it's 3 Electoral Votes as defined in The Constitution. Those would be replaced by 1 Electoral Vote (for the House seat), as Apportioned according to The Constitution. Plus the 2 EV for the newly created Senators.
If this new Statehood was in time for the new Apportionment - which it will not, then the 2 other seats would be apportioned, at this point, to TX and FL (absent further massaging.) So the House would lose 1 Dem seat edge (adding 1 Dem Seat, and 2 GOP Seats.)


In terms of Electoral Votes, D.C would still have the same 3 total that it does now, but Republicans would gain 2 EV.

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Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:16 AM

As an aside, the population growth rate was 2nd lowest in history.

Whoodathunk the decade of Obamanomics (Libtards) resulted in low population growth, only bested by the 1930's (FDR Libtards)?

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Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:30 AM

Here i did finally find one table:

AREA | RESIDENT POPULATION (APRIL 1, 2020)
Alabama5,024,279
Alaska733,391
Arizona7,151,502
Arkansas3,011,524
California39,538,223
Colorado5,773,714
Connecticut3,605,944
Delaware989,948
District of Columbia689,545
Florida21,538,187
Georgia10,711,908
Hawaii1,455,271
Idaho1,839,106
Illinois12,812,508
Indiana6,785,528
Iowa3,190,369
Kansas2,937,880
Kentucky4,505,836
Louisiana4,657,757
Maine1,362,359
Maryland6,177,224
Massachusetts7,029,917
Michigan10,077,331
Minnesota5,706,494
Mississippi2,961,279
Missouri6,154,913
Montana1,084,225
Nebraska1,961,504
Nevada3,104,614
New Hampshire1,377,529
New Jersey9,288,994
New Mexico2,117,522
New York20,201,249
North Carolina10,439,388
North Dakota779,094
Ohio11,799,448
Oklahoma3,959,353
Oregon4,237,256
Pennsylvania13,002,700
Rhode Island1,097,379
South Carolina5,118,425
South Dakota886,667
Tennessee6,910,840
Texas29,145,505
Utah3,271,616
Vermont643,077
Virginia8,631,393
Washington7,705,281
West Virginia1,793,716
Wisconsin5,893,718
Wyoming576,851

TOTAL RESIDENT POPULATION1331,449,281Puerto Rico3,285,874
TOTAL RESIDENT POPULATION, INCLUDING PUERTO RICO334,735,155

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Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:32 AM

I'm not sure of the difference in "Apportionment population" and "Resident population"

STATE | APPORTIONMENT POPULATION (APRIL 1, 2020) | NUMBER OF APPORTIONED REPRESENTATIVES BASED ON 2020 CENSUS2 | CHANGE FROM 2010 CENSUS APPORTIONMENT

Alabama5,030,053 7 0
Alaska736,081 1 0
Arizona7,158,923 9 0
Arkansas3,013,756 4 0
California39,576,757 52 -1
Colorado5,782,171 8 1
Connecticut3,608,298 5 0
Delaware990,837 1 0
Florida21,570,527 28 1
Georgia10,725,274 14 0
Hawaii1,460,137 2 0
Idaho1,841,377 2 0
Illinois12,822,739 17 -1
Indiana6,790,280 9 0
Iowa3,192,406 4 0
Kansas2,940,865 4 0
Kentucky4,509,342 6 0
Louisiana4,661,468 6 0
Maine1,363,582 2 0
Maryland6,185,278 8 0
Massachusetts7,033,469 9 0
Michigan10,084,442 13 -1
Minnesota5,709,752 8 0
Mississippi2,963,914 4 0
Missouri6,160,281 8 0
Montana1,085,407 2 1
Nebraska1,963,333 3 0
Nevada3,108,462 4 0
New Hampshire1,379,089 2 0
New Jersey9,294,493 12 0
New Mexico2,120,220 3 0
New York20,215,751 26 -1
North Carolina10,453,948 14 1
North Dakota779,702 1 0
Ohio11,808,848 15 -1
Oklahoma3,963,516 5 0
Oregon4,241,500 6 1
Pennsylvania13,011,844 17 -1
Rhode Island1,098,163 2 0
South Carolina5,124,712 7 0
South Dakota887,770 1 0
Tennessee6,916,897 9 0
Texas29,183,290 38 2
Utah3,275,252 4 0
Vermont643,503 1 0
Virginia8,654,542 11 0
Washington7,715,946 10 0
West Virginia1,795,045 2 -1
Wisconsin5,897,473 8 0
Wyoming577,719 1 0

TOTAL APPORTIONMENT POPULATION1331,108,434435



Method of Equal Proportions, as provided for in Title 2, United States Code, Sections 2a and 2b.



Using the comment that adding 89 people to the population of NY would have garnered them another seat, instead of MN, this is the set of pop data they are using for apportionment. The cutoff for the Priority number was 762997. The other data set would have needed a lot more pop in NY.

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Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:58 AM

handy chart


Seat Assignment Multipliera Seat Assignment Multipliera Seat Assignment Multipliera

1 Constitution 21 0.04879500 41 0.02469324

2 0.70710678 22 0.04652421 42 0.02409813

3 0.40824829 23 0.04445542 43 0.02353104

4 0.28867513 24 0.04256283 44 0.02299002

5 0.22360680 25 0.04082483 45 0.02247333

6 0.18257419 26 0.03922323 46 0.02197935

7 0.15430335 27 0.03774257 47 0.02150662

8 0.13363062 28 0.03636965 48 0.02105380

9 0.11785113 29 0.03509312 49 0.02061965

10 0.10540926 30 0.03390318 50 0.02020305

11 0.09534626 31 0.03279129 51 0.01980295

12 0.08703883 32 0.03175003 52 0.01941839

13 0.08006408 33 0.03077287 53 0.01904848

14 0.07412493 34 0.02985407 54 0.01869241

15 0.06900656 35 0.02898855 55 0.01834940

16 0.06454972 36 0.02817181 56 0.01801875

17 0.06063391 37 0.02739983 57 0.01769981

18 0.05716620 38 0.02666904 58 0.01739196

19 0.05407381 39 0.02597622 59 0.01709464

20 0.05129892 40 0.02531848 60 0.01680732

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Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:42 AM

I will try to pack a new table.
Census 2010 pop (from my 2 Feb 2020 post),
2019 est pop (from census)
my projected 2020 pop (from my 14 Jan 2020 post - before covid, Lockdowns, exodus from CA, NY),
2020 Vintage est pop (released Dec 2020),
Lord Darth Obiden's massaged pop data (released today)
estimated seats
priority number




The first column is the population from 2010 based upon the published priority numbers actually used in the 2010 Apportionment list.

ST 2010 Census 2019 est Proj2020 2020Vint 2020Cens
CA 53 37341990 39512223 39550199 39368078 39576757 51/051 768516/433
TX 36 25268418 28995881 29271292 29360759 29183290 37/088 778290/426 758071
NY 27 19421055 19453561 19397469 19336776 20215751 26/141 762994--436
FL 27 18900773 21477737 21652802 21733312 21570527 27/115 784512/425 756977
IL 18 12864380 12671821 12633384 12587530 12822739 16/174 777492/427

PA 18 12734905 12801989 12802789 12783254 13011844 17/158 743837
OH 16 11568495 11689100 11698669 11693217 11808848 15/189 762257--437
MI 14 09911626 09986857 09988946 09966555 10084442 13/216 747508
GA 14 09727566 10617423 10697142 10710017 10725274 14/203 740114
NC 13 09565782 10488084 10567936 10600823 10453948 13/229 774898/430

NJ 12 08807501 08882190 08879314 08882371 09294493 11/240 808981/420
VA 11 08037737 08535519 08561194 08590563 08654542 10/250 825178/418
WA 10 06753369 07614893 07683161 07693612 07715946 09/259 813332/419
MA 09 06569644 06892503 06899904 06893574 07033469 09/268
IN 09 06501582 06732219 06759761 06754953 06790280 08/294 800242/423

AZ 09 06412700 07278717 07369237 07421401 07158923 09/277 754616--440
TN 09 06375430 06829174 06872331 06886834 06916897 09/286
MO 08 06011478 06137428 06149282 06151548 06160281 08/302
MD 08 05789929 06045680 06053089 06055802 06185278 08/310 728942
WI 08 05698230 05822434 05833705 05832655 05897473 08/318

MN 08 05314879 05639632 05664669 05657342 05709752 07/325 762997/435
CO 07 05044930 05758736 05809323 05807719 05782171 07/332 772675/432
AL 07 04802982 04903185 04914813 04921532 05030053 06/338 776154/429
SC 07 04645974 05148714 05197133 05218040 05124712 06/344 790760/424
LA 06 04553961 04648794 04640622 04645318 04661468 06/350 719280

KY 06 04350606 04467673 04472563 04477251 04509342 06/356
OR 05 03848605 04217737 04244625 04241507 04241500 05/361 774388/431
OK 05 03764883 03956971 03969523 03980783 03963516 05/366 723635
CT 05 03581627 03565287 03560612 03557006 03608298 04/370 806839/421
IA 04 03053786 03155070 03159834 03163561 03192406 04/374 713843

MS 04 02978240 02976149 02972496 02966786 02963914 04/378
AR 04 02926228 03017804 03023857 03030522 03013756 04/382
KS 04 02863814 02913314 02914780 02913805 02940865 03/393 848954/417
UT 04 02770765 03205958 03245264 03249879 03275252 04/386 732368
NV 04 02709432 03080156 03119767 03138259 03108462 04/390

NM 03 02067273 02096829 02099895 02106319 02120220 03/396 612054
WV 03 01859815 01792147 01783039 01784787 01795045 02/398 732824
NE 03 01831825 01934408 01941004 01937552 01963333 02/400 801527/422
ID 02 01573499 01787065 01814462 01826913 01841377 02/402 751739--441
HI 02 01366861 01415872 01412331 01407006 01460137 02/404

ME 02 01333074 01344212 01348603 01350141 01363582 02/406
NH 02 01321445 01359711 01364396 01366275 01379089 02/408
RI 02 01055247 01059361 01060167 01057125 01098163 01/409 776518/428
MT 01 00994416 01068778 01074863 01080577 01085407 01/410 767498/434
DE 01 ?0897936 00973764 00979978 00986809 00990837 01/411 700627

SD 01 ?0814191 00884659 -------- 00892717 00887770 01/412
AK 01 ?0710249 00731545 -------- 00731158 00736081 01/413
ND 01 ?0672591 00762062 -------- 00765309 00779702 01/414
VT 01 ?0625745 00623989 -------- 00623347 00643503 01/415
WY 01 ?0563767 00578759 -------- 00582238 00577719 01/416

T 435 308156338 328239523 ----- 329484123


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Well golly, isn't i

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Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:21 AM

Turns out there was a 2020 Census Vintage estimate, which was apparently released in Dec 2020. I missed that.


https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/technical-documentation
/research/evaluation-estimates.html


https://www2.census.gov/ptograms-surveys/popest/tables/2010-2020/state
/totals/nst-est.xlsx

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Tuesday, April 27, 2021 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Also, last week HR51 was passed in the House, the D.C. Statehood bill.

If D.C. becomes a State, then it would lose it's 3 Electoral Votes as defined in The Constitution. Those would be replaced by 1 Electoral Vote, as Apportioned according to The Constitution.
If this new Statehood was in time for the new Apportionment - which it will not, then the 2 other seats would be apportioned, at this point, to TX and FL (absent further massaging.) So the House would lose 1 Dem seat edge (adding 1 Dem Seat, and 2 GOP Seats.)




lol

How much you want to bet they don't go ahead with this decision once somebody explains this to the horseface bartender?

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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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