Is Elon Musk Nuts?
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There seem to be two models of governance in large technology companies run by founder-visionaries: There is the founder-visionary-CEO as perpetual owner and controlling shareholder, who jealously guards his rights so that he can't be unseated by insurgent shareholders or directors, and there is the founder-visionary-CEO who actually does give shareholders a vote, and who relies on his charisma and vision to keep the shareholders and directors in line. Those models often come to more or less the same place, but they don't always; Musk has to wake up every day and persuade his shareholders and directors that his charismatic vision is the right one, in a way that Mark Zuckerberg just doesn't.
Musk owns 22 percent of Tesla shares, with 22 percent of the vote. Plenty of other tech-company founder-CEO-visionaries have found much stronger ways to formalize their perpetual control. Mark Zuckerberg owns about 16 percent of the shares of Facebook Inc., but he controls almost 60 percent of the vote, and almost got the company to give him voting control forever even if he sells more of his stock.
www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-29/elon-musk-might-control-tes
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With all that's going on with Tesla, I thought this was funny
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Well, Musk just pulled another ... Musk. He tweeted recently that he was thinking of taking Tesla private a $420 per share, and that "funding secured".
It turns out funding was NOT secured, and altho Tesla's share price has since dropped back from that little jump-up that that announcement engendered ... and Musk didn't gain anything at all from it ... he DID manage to squeeze/ wreak vengeance on those who were shorting Tesla stock!
'Very unusual': Elon Musk's tweet on Tesla going private at specific price
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-tesla-going-private-20180807-
story.html
Elon Musk’s tweet about going private costs Tesla short sellers $1.3 billion
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/07/elon-musks-tweet-about-going-private-c
osts-tesla-short-sellers-more-t.html
Which just goes to show: Don't believe everything you read on Twitter!
BTW .... I still think Elon Musk is nuts. This is very much like his tweet that he was going to build a hyperloop between NYC-Philly-DC and already got the go-ahead from city planners. When contacted, they said (in essence) What? This is the first I ever hear of it!" https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/20/16003766/elon-musk-boring-company-h
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Well, not nuts, exactly; it's just that he should be on his meds more often to control those manic "highs".
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The howard hughes von braun of our time
Looks like they gave him the Moon
Is There a Thin Line Between Genius and Insanity
Reports say. He just won a 2.9 Billion contract
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9480213/Elon-Musks-Spa
ceX-bring-woman-Moon-signing-rocket-deal-NASA.html
https://people.com/human-interest/elon-musk-spacex-2-9-billion-contrac
t-nasa/
https://www.ibtimes.com/nasa-chooses-spacex-take-humans-back-moon-3182
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Anyone who signs a contract with Musk is as nutty as he is.
Yes, I know: The American space station program ... such as it is ... depends exclusively on Russian "heavy lift" rockets, and since Biden* has done such a fine job pissing off the Russians, and the Russians have threatened counter-sanctions, those in charge of the spce station program must be having a butt-puckering moment.
BUT.
You won't find a solution in a "Hail Mary" SpaceX shot, which AFAIK have NEVER landed successfully!
Tailfin landings??? Seriously?? At least the space shuttle took its inspiration from Star Trek. Musk's program takes its inspiration from Buck Rogers!
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Quote:Would it really be too much work/effort for you, Signym, to know what you are talking about before you let us know your opinions?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Anyone who signs a contract with Musk is as nutty as he is.
Yes, I know: The American space station program ... such as it is ... depends exclusively on Russian "heavy lift" rockets, and since Biden* has done such a fine job pissing off the Russians, and the Russians have threatened counter-sanctions, those in charge of the spce station program must be having a butt-puckering moment.
BUT.
You won't find a solution in a "Hail Mary" SpaceX shot, which AFAIK have NEVER landed successfully!
Tailfin landings??? Seriously?? At least the space shuttle took its inspiration from Star Trek. Musk's program takes its inspiration from Buck Rogers!
Human Landing System Comparison, Which Artemis Lander is Best?
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Would it really be too much work/effort for you, Signym, to know what you are talking about before you let us know your opinions?
That's fucking priceless coming from you.
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Quote:Space Shuttle takes inspiration from Star Trek?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Anyone who signs a contract with Musk is as nutty as he is.
Yes, I know: The American space station program ... such as it is ... depends exclusively on Russian "heavy lift" rockets, and since Biden* has done such a fine job pissing off the Russians, and the Russians have threatened counter-sanctions, those in charge of the spce station program must be having a butt-puckering moment.
BUT.
You won't find a solution in a "Hail Mary" SpaceX shot, which AFAIK have NEVER landed successfully!
Tailfin landings??? Seriously?? At least the space shuttle took its inspiration from Star Trek. Musk's program takes its inspiration from Buck Rogers!
How so?
Space Shuttle research, development and testing predates Star Trek.
Even one of the later non-thrust bodies was testing before Star Trek ended. The M2-F2, IIRC crashed horribly. You can see the actual footage of that crash, which was used as the intro to the TV series The Six Million Dollar Man.
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Quote:6ix, you are a crazy person with an overabundance of opinions. You make Elon Musk, who is also overly opinionated, look good and sane and moderate in comparison. Also, maybe you should stop having opinions about things you know nothing about? Musk tends, but not always, to know something before he tweets an opinion. As for me, I lived 10 minutes from the Johnson Space Center in a house once owned by an astronaut and I still know engineers at NASA. That's why I'm interested in NASA's Artemis Project.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Would it really be too much work/effort for you, Signym, to know what you are talking about before you let us know your opinions?
That's fucking priceless coming from you.
6ix, how is your crazy campaign going with Haken to get Reaverfan banned from fireflyfans.net? 6ix times you wrote: "Hey Haken. Any chance we can give Reaverfan the boot". Maybe a seventh time will work. Or maybe you should stop having too many strongly held opinions about subjects you're ignorant about and just be quiet? No, you can't because you are a Trumptard and Trump has strong yet ignorant opinions about everything. And he has many, many enemies that he insults constantly.
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Don't care, didn't read.
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