Vladimir Putin, the Taliban and Iranian terrorists have social media accounts, Trump has not...President Trump censored and banned
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Quote:You probably should take a closer look at dozens of actual Supreme Court decisions about "free speech". If you did, you'd see that Americans are NOT free to say what they please. You only feel free because most "free speech" is not different than a mute talking to the deaf. Nobody is paying attention to most "free speech". It is white noise. It is static between AM Radio stations. In stark contrast, Presidential speech, Trump for example, all the words are heard and Trump's words cause huge and dramatic legal problems for him and everyone who hears him. That's why he was impeached twice; his mouth works faster than his brain; his lawyers compensated to keep him from being convicted.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:And yet, this is all free speech!
What did Bernie really say? "Look, you have a former president in Trump, who is a racist, a sexist, a homophobe, a xenophobe, a pathological liar, an authoritarian, somebody who doesn't believe in the rule of law. This is a bad news guy," Sanders said on the New York Times podcast "The Ezra Klein Show".
Lookit GSTRING, TWITCHY, REAVERBOT, YOU, AND THUGR:
You've used this platform to collectively and individually lie (and lie, and lie, and lie ...), troll, defame, threaten, advocate genocide, advocate killing bosses, advocate jailing people who disagree with you, advocate racism and sexism, advocate illegal immigrations, encourage others to commit suicide ...
yanno be racist, sexist, authoritarian, pathological liars, flout the rule of law ...
and yet the ONLY part of your posts not covered by free speech is where you threaten others, encourage suicide, and defame others.
YOU should be happy that you have free speech, because your posts would not be permitted otherwise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Supreme_Court_case
s_involving_the_First_Amendment#Freedom_of_speech
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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YOU should look at actual Supreme Court decisions about free speech, SECONDRATE.
It's what's protecting YOU.
Unfortunately, the M$M has the megaphone, and doesn't feel obligated to publish truth.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Quote:The very first case listed on Wikipedia for free speech is Debs v. United States. "This was one of three cases decided in 1919 in which the Court had upheld convictions that restricted free speech." Did you get that, Signym? The Supreme Court did NOT uphold free speech.
Originally posted by SignyM:
YOU should look at actual Supreme Court decisions about free speech, SECONDRATE.
It's what's protecting YOU.
Unfortunately, the M$M has the megaphone, and doesn't feel obligated to publish truth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debs_v._United_States
Signym, why are people NOT being constantly thrown into jail for exercising their free speech whenever they violate the law in Debs v. United States? The Supreme Court did NOT come to the conclusion in the 102 years since this case that you have the right of free speech protected by the Constitution. What happened instead is that in 1921, Congress largely repealed the Espionage and Sedition Acts. On December 23, 1921 President Warren G. Harding commuted Debs' sentence to time served, effective Christmas Day. He did not issue a pardon. The two met the following day at the White House.
Signym, this is just one of many Supreme Court cases ruling that the Constitution does NOT allow free speech whenever Congress says you don't have the right. Schenck v. United States is the next one of the list of Wikipedia free speech cases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States
What does it say? It's not good if you think you have the right to free speech: In 2010, the Supreme Court rejected the argument of Holmes's Abrams dissent. The facts in Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project were similar to those in Abrams: persons who planned to advocate the causes of Sri Lankan and Kurdish organizations, designated terrorist groups, had a reasonable fear of prosecution under the USA PATRIOT Act, 18 U.S.C. Section 2339B, for providing material support for terrorist organizations. The Supreme Court held that such prosecutions were not barred by the First Amendment, expressly rejecting the argument that a "specific intent" to assist terrorist acts was required, rejecting also the claim of the dissenting justices that the case was governed by the concurrence in Whitney, or by the standard stated in Brandenburg.
If the Constitution doesn't protect you from being punished for what you say, what does? Obscurity protects you. Nobody paying attention protects you. Nobody understanding your meaning protects you. Nobody giving a damn protects you. Speech on this site, fireflyfans.net, is protected for those reasons, not because of the Constitution.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Many times Trump has made claims he was libeled, gone to court, and lost because the M$M didn't lie about him. The Constitution does NOT protect the M$M from being sued. There is NO protection. But Trump keeps losing because it is he who lies:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Unfortunately, the M$M has the megaphone, and doesn't feel obligated to publish truth.
Donald J. Trump Is A Libel Bully But Also A Libel Loser
https://www.medialaw.org/component/k2/item/3470-donald-j-trump-is-a-li
bel-bully-but-also-a-libel-loser
Trump escalates fight against press with libel lawsuits
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/486273-trump-escalates-fight-agains
t-press-with-libel-lawsuits
Donald Trump's 46 Threats and 6 Lawsuits
http://www.trump-clock.com/
02/26/2020: On the same day he filed a lawsuit against the New York Times for libel over an opinion piece, Trump says during a press conference that more lawsuits are coming. (Fox News)
08/28/2019: Charles Harder, a lawyer for Donald Trump, says a report by MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell that Trump's loans were co-signed by "Russian billionaires close to Vladimir Putin" is "defamatory" and "extremely damaging," and that Trump will consider "immediate legal action." (Oliver Darcy)
10/01/2018: Charles Harder, a lawyer for Donald Trump, says a New York Times report that Trump committed "outright fraud" is "highly defamatory" and exposes it to "substantial liability and damages for defamation." (New York Times)
01/04/2018 8:58 AM: Trump's lawyers also threaten the author and publisher of a forthcoming book and demand that he apologize to the president. (Carol Leonnig)
01/03/2018 10:35 PM: Trump's lawyer, Charles Harder, sends a cease and desist letter to Steve Bannon over "disparaging" comments in a forthcoming book. (ABC News)
10/27/2016 8:30 PM: Trump, asked about the Billy Bush tape, says it was an "illegal act" for NBC to record it, that it was "absolutely" illegal to release the tape, and that "we're going to find out soon enough" whether he will take legal action against NBC. (The Hill)
10/27/2016 11:59 AM: Trump company threat to people, apparently including a 92-year-old widow, responsible for statements made in documentary criticizing a golf course. (The Scotsman)
10/22/2016 12:15 PM: Trump: The media "is trying to poison the minds" of the voters. "Every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign. Total fabrication. The events never happened. Never. All of these liars will be sued after the election is over." (Donald Trump)
10/13/2016 1:24 PM: Trump is "preparing a lawsuit" against the New York Times for "Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately." Trump hasn't filed a lawsuit. (Donald Trump)
10/13/2016 12:25 AM: Trump's lawyer threatens the New York Times over an article entitled, "Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately" Trump hasn't filed a lawsuit. (McKay Coppins)
10/12/2016: Trump campaign official says the New York Times and "politically-motivated accusers better lawyer up." Trump hasn't filed a lawsuit. (CNN)
10/2/2016: Trump's lawyer threatens the New York Times for publishing copies of some of his tax returns. Trump hasn't filed a lawsuit. (Trevor Timm)
9/17/2016: Trump suggests he might sue the New York Times for "irresponsible intent." Trump hasn't filed a lawsuit. (Donald J. Trump)
7/18/2016: Trump's lawyer threatens Tony Schwartz, co-author of "The Art of the Deal," over statements he made in an interview with the New Yorker. Trump hasn't filed a lawsuit. (New Yorker)
5/18/2016: Trump says he "will be bringing more libel suits" against unidentified critics, perhaps even "you folks," the Washington
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Nah. It's because the same people who fact check at Snopes have been planted everywhere after they finished their college brainwashing.
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Quote:If you are anything like every Texas Trumptard, your life is a mess for the same reason you defend Trump -- because you can't be relied upon to tell the difference between truth and lies, whether it is Trump lying to you or a local fast talking con man or your employer or your family or your "friends".
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nah. It's because the same people who fact check at Snopes have been planted everywhere after they finished their college brainwashing.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If you are anything like every Texas Trumptard, your life is a mess for the same reason you defend Trump -- because you can't be relied upon to tell the difference between truth and lies, whether it is Trump lying to you or a local fast talking con man or your employer or your family or your "friends".
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nah. It's because the same people who fact check at Snopes have been planted everywhere after they finished their college brainwashing.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
My life is fine. I'm not Republican.
The quote above is not an argument.
You are incapable of telling truth from lies because you do not want objective truth. All you're looking for is somebody to tell you what you want to hear.
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Quote:There is a guy two streets to the west with a Trump Flag flying high above his front yard. A solar powered light is at the top of the flag pole. At the base he has an Uncle Sam figure. There is a red, white and blue sign with three gold stars: "U.S.A. One Nation Under God with Liberty and 'just-ice' for All". Very cute. Very original. Well executed art.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
My life is fine. I'm not Republican.
He's not a Republican. He's an idiot, but he can't see it.
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Who gives a shit?
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Quote:My neighbor will fly the Trump flag until Democrats lose the White House because he believes Trump won. Why does he believe? Because Trump lawyer Sidney Powell said on TV that Trump won and the neighbor believes Powell. But now lawyers for Sidney Powell argued conspiracies she laid out constituted legally protected first amendment speech. “No reasonable person” could have mistaken wild and false claims about election fraud last November as statements of fact. The neighbor with the Trump flag in his front yard knows Powell retracted what was said about Trump winning, but the neighbor does not "give a shit." He refuses to believe the retraction is genuine, but is really only a legal maneuver.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Who gives a shit?
More at Pro-Trump lawyer says ‘no reasonable person’ would believe her election lies
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/23/sidney-powell-trump-el
ection-fraud-claims
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