Wut woud it take to stop voting Republican?
POSTED BY: JO753
UPDATED: Saturday, July 27, 2024 14:04
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Quote:Signy's right. You don't understand the milieu. Parents were terrified for their children, grandparents for their grandchildren. Siblings were terrified for their brothers, cousins for cousins, wives for husbands, girlfriends for boyfriends, and so on. Unless of course you think that no person ever has vital feelings for another person?
Big differens between care and terrified with good reazon.
Everyone who knew anyone who could be drafted had to think to some degree about whether or not they would be willing to sacrifice that person in the war. And if they were NOT willing to sacrifice somebody, or several somebodies, to Vietnam, how far were they willing to go, and capable of going, to protect them.
The vital question people had to think about, about knowing someone who could go to Vietnam, was: what would people DO about it?
And if you think Trump is divisive, the Vietnam War was even more so. It divided families, 'demographics', and generations - between those who believed patriotism meant unquestioned sacrifice, and those who ultimately thought Vietnam wasn't worth America lives. One of my boyfriends (who grew up in a VERY rural Adirondacks area) told me that he was for (like a lot of rural offspring were 'for' going into Iraq and Afghanistan), his parents (older and wiser, and who moved to a rural area from an urban area) were against. Then there were the parents who thought their sons should go, otherwise they were useless hippie scum. It divided union hardhat democrats from peacenik democrats. And so on.
And for those who thought Vietnam was wrong, by whatever reason they came to that conclusion, the only answer they had was to stop the war by mass demonstrations, the likes of which you have not seen in your lifetime. And that was answered with brutal repression (ie the National Guard firing live ammo at unarmed demonstrators and killing them).
And yes, there was a distinct change in roughly 2-3 years once the war was over. And you are on the other side.
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I've been harping about how awful the democrats* are since 2016:
Hillary Clinton: just because she deserves her own thread
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60433&p=1
And nobody who seems to be pro-democrat* here has addressed a single one of my objections. Nope, not one post on the particulars in all that time. Instead of addressing the problems with democrats* you - yes you JO, and your cohorts - seem content to take personal potshots instead.
WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET YOU TO STOP FOCUSING ON TRUMP (AND RUSSIA), AND ADDRESS AMERICAN PROBLEMS THAT DEMOCRATS* ARE NOT ADDRESSING? That's what I want to know.
BTW, as a registered democrat*, since 2016 I have not voted for a democrat*. People who get my vote only need to meet 2 requirements: 1) NOT the democrat*, and 2) having a platform that resembles my own views - which I have posted multiple times. But to reiterate: 1) focus on global warming, and 2) reduce the threat of nuclear confrontation with Russia. Both of these are EXISTENTIAL threats - ie, whether we and the planet survive in some reasonable fashion, or not.
And as you may have noticed democrats* have done absolutely nothing to reduce US global warming gas EMISSIONS, and are actively provoking Russia with unending sanctions about un-evidenced claims. (And let me point out, again, the difference between reality and delusion, news and propaganda, is EVIDENCE.)
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For me, of course nuclear war is a critical issue.
But retaining sovereignty (including not signing any more "free trade" pacts), securing our borders, and ENDING OUR ENDLESS WARS are top priorities.
Yanno, the biggest waste of CO2 emissions and money is flying our planes and steaming our ships all over god's creation, and bombing people who're no threat to us whatsoever.
What in hell gives our warhawks and neocons the idea that we have a god-given right to go meddling in any nation that we feel like?
Fuck that shit.
If the Dems stand up a candidate that meets my essential points, I'll vote for him or her. If not, I'll vote for anyone else. I never stopped being an anti-war democrat; too bad the DNC did.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Comrade Sig says so many stupid thing all one need do is throw a dart and you'll hit one. America doesn't stick its head in the sand; America leads. She must have her head stuck in the sand because she surely doesn't understand how the world works.
SIGNYM 
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^ Look at that one Kiki.
That's how stupid you are when you think in political cartoons.
Out of the other quarter of Ted's half brain, he will argue the fake mail-in election was won by Biden* by millions of Democrat votes.
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Quote:AMERICA LEADS??
Sig says so many stupid thing all one need do is throw a dart and you'll hit one. America doesn't stick its head in the sand; America leads. She must have her head stuck in the sand because she surely doesn't understand how the world works.
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Today’s characteristically luminous insights will be disordered and structurally horrifying, the sort of essay that would have sent my high-school English teacher into anaphylactic shock. In exculpation I plead laziness.
Recently I wrote a column on China’s digital yuan, now in late-stage testing. Bare-bones explanation: You download a digital-wallet app with which you can then send payments to anybody in the world who also has the app, no forms, bureaucracy, or bank account needed. OK, that’s cute, you say. Then, with my phenomenally perceptive, pincer-like grasp of the inescapable, I thought, it sounds scalable. If you can do it with thirty bucks (in yuan) for a hat from some store, why not with fifty million dollars (in yuan) for a shipment of oil from Iran? Sure, with more security and so on, but same mechanism.
Interestingly, such payments would be completely independent of, and opaque to, Washington. And independent of…SWIFT, eeeeeeek! Do you suppose China has thought of this?
Well, I thought, this is mere speculative maundering by some guy in Mexico who is admittedly pig ignorant of international finance. And of course China itself was saying that the dijjywan had nothing to do with the dollar, oh no, was solely for domestic use, and for retail sales. Not important. Move on. Nothing to see here.
But then, this: China is consulting, whatever that means, with Hong Kong, Thailand, and the UAE over using the dijjywan for international payments. Uh…say what? Thailand and the UAE are not particularly domestic to China. And I doubt that Beijing is intensely interested in the retail market of the UAE, which has the aggregate population of a large city bus. Methinks China has Something In mind. And it don’t bode good for sanctions, the petrodollar, and the like.
Nuther subject: Being fascinated by what looks like a shift of the world’s technological and economic center of gravity from the West to Asia, I poke about the web in the manner of an Ernest truffle hound, to see what the wily Orientals are doing. My results are not too systematic. My distinct impression is that things are happening over there, ideas popping up on Wednesday and in volume production by Friday afternoon, of energy and movement. By contrast, America looks asleep at the wheel. Except that it doesn’t have a wheel. A few almost random examples:
China ahead of America in patent applications for second year.
Business Insider:“ “China is moving ahead with a huge robot farming project…powered by 5G cellular technology, the agricultural tractor with self-driving mode can also be remotely controlled to carry out multiple intelligent functions” says Chinese governmental site Global Times
Beijing has successfully powered up its “artificial sun” nuclear fusion reactor for the first time, China’s People’s Daily reported on Friday. It’s designed to be a clean energy source, similar to the real Sun.”
The foregoing is overexcited as neither China nor anyone else has demonstrated controlled fusion, but it shows that the country is in the race.
Global Times (Again, mouthpiece of Beijing): China needs to increase its nuclear warheads to 1,000.” Because of American hostility.
Education. China finds its brightest students with a grueling entrance exam. America dumbs down elite high schools because they don’t have enough unqualified minorities. Thomas Jefferson High School in Virginia has already been enstupidated, and the NYC schools are on the block. The purpose of schools is to admit students who can’t do the work.
New York Post: “With this year’s state math and English exams canceled, a watered-down grading policy enacted, and the tossing of attendance, the key factors for admission to selective schools have been dropped or diminished…. “NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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Originally posted by SignyM:
And THUGR thinks he knows how the world works! /snicker
Today, maybe.
If the Legacy Media told Ted tomorrow that he had no clue how the world works than he'd post about how none of us have any clue how the world works.
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I think the Two-Party system sucks, maybe there is a Third choice but it rarely shows up in America people are free to pick Republican, Democrat or whatever. In Order to stop people voting Republican a mob would have to take over a region, chimp out and Loot Cities and Burn them and then threaten to kill anyone wearing a Maga Hat...oh wait people already did that...including idiots on Fireflyfans sending their fellow Americans death threats.
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Rep. Jim Banks: 'It's Time to Impeach' President Biden
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/07/22/exclusive-rep-jim-banks-
its-time-to-impeach-president-biden-expunge-trump-impeachments/
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