Wut woud it take to stop voting Republican?

POSTED BY: JO753
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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:33 AM

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Originally posted by JO753:
I dont think most so-called 'conservative' voterz can ever chanje their mindz.

Are you trying to claim that conservatives are voting for their antagonists in the establishment Republicans?

What planet have you been hiding on?

Next, you might claim that moderates and centrists are voting for Democrats! hah!

Or are you just stoned?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:45 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It boggles my mind that someone as smart as JO can be so fooled.

JO, would it help if I told you how I came by my opinions? To start with, I came of age during the Vietnam War, and I recognized it as a pointless and evil waste of human life (ours, AND theirs!).

Hope my post doesn't creep you out, Sigs.

Have no fear. I'm not going to dox you or Kiki or anybody else. I just figured that it was time to start gathering some data on the particularly bad actors here in the RWED, and I can't pick and choose what data I'm collecting.

I just thought it was quite entertaining to discover real proof that you both were from California and that we don't have Russians posting here.

I'll admit that it's also just a little comforting too. Not that I ever doubted it, but that would have been quite the surprise if these idiots were right all along.

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JO753

Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
JO, would it help if I told you how I came by my opinions?

Go ahed. I alwayz like to be suprized.

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How old are you? Post Vietnam?

You no I'm 61.

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JO753

Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Are you trying to claim that conservatives are voting for their antagonists in the establishment Republicans?

Many are. You may hav notist that Mich McConnel still haz hiz job, along with bunchez uv tired old craggly fasez.

But too many are voting for Trump worshipping wakkoz like Taylor-Greene. Too many voterz are Trump chumps and wakkoz! And nearly all uv them are united only to be agenst Demz. Overall there iz literally no coherent polisy ideaz for running the nation.

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Next, you might claim that moderates and centrists are voting for Democrats!

Sum are. The sane wunz. Unless youv been hiding under a rok in Iraq youv sertainly herd uv The Linkun Project, and its not the only conservativ group that popped up agenst Trump.

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 2, 2021 2:14 PM

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SIGNYM:
JO, would it help if I told you how I came by my opinions?

JO: Go ahed. I alwayz like to be suprized.

SIGNY: How old are you? Post Vietnam?

JO: You no I'm 61.

How would I know that? Tbh I don't follow your posts all that closely and I've only scanned your website.

IMHO it makes a difference. I'm a few years older than you-65- and prolly the last cohort to be greatly affected by Vietnam. After that, the war wound down and it wasn't an issue to younger students, but everyone from about the current age of 65-74 had to think pretty hard about it because young men were being drafted ... it wasn't an all-volunteer army like now.

When I was quite young, maybe about 8, I had what can only be described as an existential crisis. I suddenly realized that all of the comforting things that I had believed - the beautiful story of the baby Jesus, that I had a guardian angel watching over me, the sacrifices that Christ made for us (described in gruesome detail in the Stations of the Cross) were completely unprovable, and that the universe was a cold, dark, alien place. Probing that painful thought about what could or couldn't be proved even further, I realized that nobody could prove that reality existed. It could all be a dream. Worse, it might not even be MY dream (I think therefore I am - Kant) it might be someone else's (Berkeley)! Apparently I recapitulated a fair bit of modern philosophical thinking all on my own. At some point, I decided that stepping in front of a speeding 18-wheeler was probably not the best way to test that hypothesis, so I decided that I should behave AS IF the world were real on the chance that it was.

Who knows what lurks in the minds of eight year olds!

When you've rejected religion and are wrestling with what is reality at a tender age, it's not too far a step to question other things.

Well. Away from philosophy and on to economics. I developed an interest in economics when I was about 10. The book that stuck with me was "The Worldly Philosophers". You should give it a read.

Then on to politics.

I remember thinking in my teens that our voting system behaved like "one dollar, one vote".

I could never understand why we were in Vietnam. I remember Kennedy saying something about tin, and then there was the "domino theory" (that if Vietnam "fell to the Communists" all of the other SE Asian nations would fall too), but I remember looking at a map and thinking ... so what? It's not as of there were important resources there, it didn't control a major trade route. All of the explanations sounded like so much blah blah blah, where was the vital interest that would suck up 50,000 American lives and cause our nation to be riven by such strife?

But I didn't see it as EVIL until I saw "Hearts and Minds" which was a documentary of all of the horrors that we visited on the hapless people of Vietnam and Cambodia AND OUR OWN SOLDIERS: carpet bombing, Agent Orange, mass killing, tiger cages, drugs, prostitution, napalm, scorched earth warfare... when you witness such atrocities and, worse, participate in them, even if you're not killed or physically wounded you come back different. Like SECOND or worse. And for what???

That was the first time I saw those other people AS PEOPLE... unlike WISHY who only thinks of "them" in large lumps, like "brown people" or "foreigners", and can't empathize with them in the least. They grieved, they felt fear, they acted courageously, or cowardly, or opportunistically ... but we had brought them all of the horrors of war to them for no reason whatsoever. It is estimated that we killed 2 million Vietnamese people.

And then there were the death squads that Reagan unleashed on Nicaragua and other central American countries. The farce that was Grenada. Bush1's attack on Iraq - not only premeditated but provoked. Lebanon. Panama. Yugoslavia. Somalia. Afghanistan. Iraq - again. Li

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, March 2, 2021 6:50 PM

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Originally posted by JO753:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
How old are you? Post Vietnam?
You no I'm 61.

I wouldn't have thought you were 61, JO. You look good for your age.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, March 3, 2021 1:37 AM

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Originally posted by JO753:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Are you trying to claim that conservatives are voting for their antagonists in the establishment Republicans?
Many are. You may hav notist that Mich McConnel still haz hiz job, along with bunchez uv tired old craggly fasez.

Now you are arguing agasinst yourself. McConnell is not any conservative, he is the Establishment who the conservatives vote against. He has a 20% aspproval rating.

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Next, you might claim that moderates and centrists are voting for Democrats!
Sum are. The sane wunz. Unless youv been hiding under a rok in Iraq youv sertainly herd uv The Linkun Project, and its not the only conservativ group that popped up agenst Trump.

Your delusions pretend that the Looney Lefty Libtards of the Linkun Project are conservatives????
You really are on another planet, and your news feed has massive digital dropoff.
And only Ultra-Libtards vote for Democrats, as well as rig the voting equipment to violate the Constitution and steal the Elections.

JO753

Wednesday, March 3, 2021 9:18 PM

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JO753

Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:02 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

How would I know that? Tbh I don't follow your posts all that closely and I've only scanned your website.

http://www.7532020.com/UBoWT.htm wuz wun uv the 1st pajez on the site, so I assumed youd red it.

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IMHO it makes a difference. I'm a few years older than you-65- and prolly the last cohort to be greatly affected by Vietnam. After that, the war wound down and it wasn't an issue to younger students, but everyone from about the current age of 65-74 had to think pretty hard about it because young men were being drafted ... it wasn't an all-volunteer army like now.

They didnt draft women.

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When I was quite young, maybe about 8, I had what can only be described as an existential crisis.

Thats a very early aje to be contemplating on that level.

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that the universe was a cold, dark, alien place.

Soundz like wut an old GF uv mine sed!

"Marriaj iz a lie to tell children to fool them that therez order & safety in the world".

Did you hav parent problemz?

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1KIKI

Thursday, March 4, 2021 7:00 AM

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Originally posted by JO753:
They didnt draft women.

Does that mean that ONLY males of draftable age cared about Vietnam?

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Originally posted by SignyM:
When I was quite young, maybe about 8, I had what can only be described as an existential crisis. I suddenly realized that all of the comforting things that I had believed ... were completely unprovable, and that the universe was a cold, dark, alien place.

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Originally posted by JO753:
Did you hav parent problemz?

Are you saying the universe is NOT "a cold, dark, alien place"?

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