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Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:30 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:But even if he had dirt on Trump, which I seriously doubt, what has he done with that information that's such a serious threat to us?...Find me a couple of examples where Russia has seriously harmed our interests, bc I'm not seeing it.


First and foremost, he put an incompetent idiot megalomaniac into the Oval Offis. If he did nothing after that, it woud hav been bad enuf. Just look at wut Bush jr did in 2 termz and he wuz merely an incompetent idiot and nowhere near az incompetent and idiotic az Trump.

I am not sertain about this, but I think Trump only really ran for Prez bekuz Putin ordered him to. Otherwize he woud hav not run at all or maybe did hiz usual teazer publisity stunts. Crooks do not want too much scrutiny! Running for Prez haz been likened to a 2 year colonoscopy. He really just wanted to copy Glen Beck and start a media empire.

The bad respons to the pandemic in the US iz a direct and undeniable rezult uv having such a person az Prez.

It currently seemz like there woudnt need to be a spesific command from Putin to account for Trump's mishandling uv the pandemic. He started by eliminating Obama'z pandemic respons team, long befor the pandemic began. That coud be credited az part uv hiz vendeta to undo everything Obama did.

BUT it duznt eliminate it az a possibilty. All thingz considered, especially internationally, this mite be the greatest accomplishment Trump delivered.

Example 2. Hollowing out the State Department. Equivelent to putting noize canselling ear muffs and a sack over Uncle Samz hed. Def and blind and muzzled to the world.

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Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:53 PM

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Originally posted by JO753:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We're all turning into the villain on 12 Monkeys here.



Just woct it.

A greater movie than I remembered.

The C19 pandemic provez the consept - sins our sivilization wuz so eazily bumped off the tracks by a natural virus, a virus enjineered to do az much damaj az possible woud probably be seksesful.



Yeah. It's a great flick. Especially since it was back when Willis gave a shit about his career and wasn't just phoning in the performances.

But it's also because of movies like this that everyone finds it super hard to ever have a real conversation about overpopulation.

Look at Nilbog's post to me in the "Bitch" thread. She somehow thinks that my comments about overpopulation and the fact that not only will a virus out of our control someday really come and knock a large portion of us out is an eventuality, but it is also a necessity for the continuance of the human species and possibly all life on this earth is on the same level as her constant wishing of death on anybody she doesn't like.

Most people are so uncomfortable about the topic that quite a few would be automatically inclined to take somebody like her side on that too.

I don't wish it to happen. It's just inevitable and ultimately essential.

There's a huge difference between hate and pragmatism.


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Friday, February 19, 2021 9:03 PM

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SIGNYM: But even if he had dirt on Trump, which I seriously doubt, what has he done with that information that's such a serious threat to us? ...Find me a couple of examples where Russia has seriously harmed our interests, bc I'm not seeing it.

JO: First and foremost, he put an incompetent idiot megalomaniac into the Oval Offis. If he did nothing after that, it woud hav been bad enuf. Just look at wut Bush jr did in 2 termz and he wuz merely an incompetent idiot and nowhere near az incompetent and idiotic az Trump.

Bush Jr
failed to prevent the biggest terror attack on the USA (IMHO a LIHOP operation),
signed the so-called "Patriot Act",
actively abused the "enemy combatant" designation, and signed off on black torture sites and extrarodinary rendition
started two big MILITARY wars, created a giant power vacuum in the Mideast, promoting the formation of ISIS,
expanded Medicare to drug coverage without the ability to bargain with big pharma,
cut taxes for the wealthy
specifically prohibited the various States Attorney General from prosecuting fradulent lending, robosigning and other illegal "subprime" mortgage lending practices, setting the stage for the 2008 meltdown
presided over and approved China's accession into the WTO
blew the Federal deficit
maintained a close relationship with the Saud family

That's a lot of damage from one President! (Don't worry, I can create a similarlist for both Bill Clinton and Obama.)

Simply calling Trumps names ("incompetent idiot megalomaniac") does NOT answer the question about WHAT HARM RUSSIA DID TO THE USA. Be specific.

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JO: I am not sertain about this, but I think Trump only really ran for Prez bekuz Putin ordered him to. Otherwize he woud hav not run at all or maybe did hiz usual teazer publisity stunts. Crooks do not want too much scrutiny! Running for Prez haz been likened to a 2 year colonoscopy. He really just wanted to copy Glen Beck and start a media empire.
Speculation into motive, doesn't answer the question.

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JO: The bad respons to the pandemic in the US iz a direct and undeniable rezult uv having such a person az Prez.
It currently seemz like there woudnt need to be a spesific command from Putin to account for Trump's mishandling uv the pandemic.

Well, in looking around the world I would say that "bad responses" abounded everywhere. Whether you locked down an economy (California) or not (Sweden) the virus burned its way thru every population. The only thing lockdowns did ... aside from killing an economy ... was to slow the rate of infection somewhat.

So, hindsight being 20/20, what would YOU have done?

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JO: He started by eliminating Obama'z pandemic respons team, long befor the pandemic began. That coud be credited az part uv hiz vendeta to undo everything Obama did.
Remembe that list of GWB's harm to the USA? Well, I COULD write one just as long for Obama. Much of what Obama did deserved to be undone.

The pandemic response was punted to the CDC, which is where it should have been all along. The CDC blew the response, too, because they were too politically-motivated and also seemed to push lockdowns and vaccines as the only possible responses to the pandemic. There is good evidence and several large studies showing that HCQ does, in fact, PREVENT development of Covid-19 symptoms (as a treatment, not so much), but bc Trump said it the entire liberal medical bureaucracy, M$M, and social media decided to censure, and censor, that information.

Btw the WHO blew its response as well, which was (IMHO) excessively concerned about costing the holders of "pandemic bonds" billions (trillions?) of dollars and excessively deferenti

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Friday, February 19, 2021 11:52 PM

The reason why I provided A LIST of everything GWB did wrong was to give you an example of the kind of response I'm looking for about Trump.

Sure, I could call GWB a "brain dead dry-drunk neocon sock puppet" but that really doesn't advance the discussion.

So, please provide A LIST of how Russia has harmed the United States. Or if you want to lay this all at Trump's feet, A LIST of how Trump has harmed the USA.

Thanks!


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Monday, February 22, 2021 8:25 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Simply calling Trumps names ("incompetent idiot megalomaniac") does NOT answer the question about WHAT HARM RUSSIA DID TO THE USA. Be specific.



That in itself iz very spesific. The offis uv The Prez uv The United States uv America, being the most powerful pozition on the planet, shoud be respected by the entire free world and feared by all autocrats.

Unfortunately, not many uv the occupierz uv the pozition hav lived up to it, but Putin'z puppet brot it to a new low.

With a clear purpose to degrade anything and everything that mite be a + mark for America compared to other nationz, Putin showed hiz hand bekuz most uv it wuz beyond Trump's knowlej and mental abilityz.

Trump worked hard to jenerate divisionz with our alliez. He openly cozied up to autocrats. He took every opportunity to drop hiz pants (and America'z by extension) for Putin in public.

Disonr, disgust, derision. Any word you can think uv thats in the catagory oppozit uv the category associated with respect.

He started long before winning the election just by being himself - an embarrassing crude clown. That gi mite bekum prezident?! America! HA!

And then he winz. FOOEEYY on America! Everybody join me in pissing on America now!


But the minit he sat down behind the Rezolut Desk iz wen he really went to work.

Appointing idiots and anti-purpose criminalz to disable federal ajensiez. (remember Ben Carson? Scott Pruit?)

Went with nepotizm like he wuz competing for an international title.

Named Frend uv Russia medalist Rex Tillerson for Secretary uv State.

The world wuz not thinking 'wow! look how great America iz!' at any point during the last 5 yirz.

Its been 4 yirz uv apprehension about wuts going to come out uv The White House next. Another deregulatory attack on the envirement? More give-awayz for the rich andor jiant corporationz? Or will it just be the usual streem uv stoopid obvious liez?

The other day I notist that I hav developed a mental flinch at the mere mention uv 'the Wite House' on the newz. I hav to remind myself that Biden iz Prezident now!

So, you want more spesifics. In addition to the international loss uv respect, herez a few off the top uv my hed:

Haf a million ded frum C19 so far, a quarter uv the world total.

The first attack on The Union sins the Sivil War.

The divisionz in the sitizenry are wider than ever, nearly haf uv us are off the deep end in a fantasy land where Trump iz the greatest Prez ever.

At least 2 major seksesful hacks into the intel ajensiez (and all other ajensyz), the amount uv damaj haz yet to be determined.

Trade warz that gained nothing for anybody exept maybe Russia. (a direct effect on me wuz China halting the resycling biz. I hav about 200 poundz uv aluminum canz backed up here.)

Thats enuff but therez so much more. Keep in mind that I beleev you are Russian, so reazonably suspect that you mite be trying to trik me into doing an assessment for you - a sort uv 'here boss! Look wut we've accomplished az testified by the Americanz themselvez!'



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Monday, February 22, 2021 9:03 PM

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Originally posted by JO753:
That in itself iz very spesific. The offis uv The Prez uv The United States uv America, being the most powerful pozition on the planet, shoud be respected by the entire free world and feared by all autocrats.



Outside of the USA, there is no free world. We are the only country with Constitutional protections for freedom of speech.

Your party is trying to destroy those now, JO.

I used to have the Democrats backs when the situation was reversed.




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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 9:08 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:


So, please provide A LIST of how Russia has harmed the United States. Or if you want to lay this all at Trump's feet, A LIST of how Trump has harmed the USA.




Didja see her ask for a list she will then ignore??

Yeah??


TRAAAP!



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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 9:10 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


Your party is trying to destroy compulsive liars and disinformation peddlers now, JO.




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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 9:40 AM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


Your party is trying to destroy compulsive liars and disinformation peddlers now, JO.




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Sorry Nilly. Democrats are trying to shred the Constitution and install censorship at every level in the 2020s.

I used to back them when I thought we were fighting the Republicans against that.

It doesn't mean I side with the Republicans though. I know they both want it.

You're just to fucking dumb to see that.


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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 7:21 PM

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SIGNYM:
Simply calling Trumps names ("incompetent idiot megalomaniac") does NOT answer the question about WHAT HARM RUSSIA DID TO THE USA. Be specific.

JO: That in itself iz very spesific. The offis uv The Prez uv The United States uv America, being the most powerful pozition on the planet, shoud be respected by the entire free world and feared by all autocrats.

WHY should our President be "feared by all autocrats?

Are you assuming that it is on OUR INTEREST ... that it benefits YOU AND ME in some real way ... for that USA to be "world cop" and to threaten or destroy every "autocratic" rule across the world? What good does that do for US? BE SPECIFIC. PROVIDE EXAMPLES (That's what you get for never answering the question "What are AMERICA'S interests?)

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Unfortunately, not many uv the occupierz uv the pozition hav lived up to it, but Putin'z puppet brot it to a new low.
HOW? WHAT DID TRUMP DO TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN?

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With a clear purpose to degrade anything and everything that mite be a + mark for America compared to other nationz, Putin showed hiz hand bekuz most uv it wuz beyond Trump's knowlej and mental abilityz.
WHAT are those items or characteristics that constitute an A+ mark for America, how has Trump "degraded" them, and what harm has it done to you and me? BE SPECIFIC. PROVIDE EXAMPLES.

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Trump worked hard to jenerate divisionz with our alliez. He openly cozied up to autocrats. He took every opportunity to drop hiz pants (and America'z by extension) for Putin in public.
Which allies? How has he sown division among them, along what lines? What harm has it done you and me? Are alliances ... and allies ... a good thing, especially when they've been free riding on America's military for decades?

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Disonr, disgust, derision. Any word you can think uv thats in the catagory oppozit uv the category associated with respect.
Again, WHO is disgusted with America, and why? Does it hurt our interests, or not?

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He started long before winning the election just by being himself - an embarrassing crude clown. That gi mite bekum prezident?! America! HA!
I'm tired of asking the same question over and over, and so I'm going to make a comment: You are FAR too sensitive to what (you think) the elite globalists think about trump. Boris Johnson is considered an "embarrassment" among the globalists, and yet he got Brexit done, and the British vaccine rollout is many month ahead of the von der Leyen's and EU'S and he seems to be doing a good job for Britain. So, aside from the "embarrassment"- which is simply your opinion of the globalist elite's opinion of Trump (and let's be frank: you're probably wrong about that)- what has Trump DONE to hurt America's interests. I have a list, and it's not all wrapped around Trump being an "embarrassment" ... which seems to be the sum total of your complaints about him.

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And then he winz. FOOEEYY on America! Everybody join me in pissing on America now!
What does that say about America?


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But the minit he sat down behind the Rezolut Desk iz wen he really went to work.

Appointing idiots and anti-purpose criminalz to disable federal ajensiez. (remember Ben Carson? Scott Pruit?)

So, what did THEY do? Because, frankly, I don't recall them at all.

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Went with nepotizm like he wuz competing for an international title.
Like? Jared Kushner? One person is not exactly world-class nepotism.

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Named Frend uv Russia medalist Rex Tillerson for Secretary uv State.
And then fired him not long into his Presidency. And,what did Rex Tillerson DO that was so terrible?

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The world wuz n

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