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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:23 AM

I lucked into the fucking job, but it wasn't given to me. I earned that too.

And then I kept it until my salary was shipped to India to pay 6 people a living wage. I got two promotions while I was there and doubled my salary because I was fucking great at it, just like every fucking job I've ever fucking done.

I'm the best at whatever I do.

I choose not to play the game anymore. I'm able to do that because of what I did and continue to do with that money. That's in many ways more important than making the money in the first place.

I can pretty much guaranty that over the course of my life I've made less money than your old dummy friends that don't have a pot to piss in now. I've only had 5 or 6 good years. I've been unemployed more years than I've made good money, and the rest was making damn near minimum wage.

They've got nothing because they're old dummies who were dummies over the course of their entire lives with their money. Mindless consumers who couldn't stop consuming.

Boo fucking hoo.

Capice?

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A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.

1KIKI

Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:33 AM

It's all about Jack, all the time, I guess.

SIGNYM

Saturday, February 13, 2021 1:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I lucked into the fucking job, but it wasn't given to me. I earned that too.

And then I kept it until my salary was shipped to India to pay 6 people a living wage. I got two promotions while I was there and doubled my salary because I was fucking great at it, just like every fucking job I've ever fucking done.

I'm the best at whatever I do.

I choose not to play the game anymore. I'm able to do that because of what I did and continue to do with that money. That's in many ways more important than making the money in the first place.

I can pretty much guaranty that over the course of my life I've made less money than your old dummy friends that don't have a pot to piss in now. I've only had 5 or 6 good years. I've been unemployed more years than I've made good money, and the rest was making damn near minimum wage.

They've got nothing because they're old dummies who were dummies over the course of their entire lives with their money. Mindless consumers who couldn't stop consuming.

Boo fucking hoo.

Capice?

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A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.

Well, you can't possibly be "the best" because my hubby is. Professional motorcycle and car repair? Motorcycle racing? Racquetball? Physics? Philosophy? Political and economics analysis? Computer design, system programming, and security? Research instrument design and build? Construction and woodwoorking? Husband and father? And, oh yeah ... being in a abusive home, homeless and working his way up?

Anything you did, SIX, you're just a piker in comparison.

I'll grant that you're a bright guy, certainly brighter than the people around you, but you're just a medium-sized fish in a small pond.

Same goes for JO.

So I wouldn't get too cocky, if I were you. KIKI and I, I think we made better life choices overall, and we're prolly just as smart. And there will ALWAYS be someone smarter than you.

But I don't hold that against you. You're still an OK guy.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Saturday, February 13, 2021 1:57 PM

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SIGNYM: I'm always happy to find areas of agreement, but if you won't discuss your opinions I suppose we'll never find out.

JO: I'm happy to discuss wen I hav the time. But I dont hav a bunch theze dayz, so cant waste any churning debunks.

OK, so I went back to your website to find areas of agreement. Skipping the parts in your intro, in which you obsess (IMHO) about Putin, turning him into some cartoonish and unrealistically clever, powerful bad guy...

Let's go to areas of agreement, and maybe flesh them out or define them

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We can't have an election system that regularly puts dangerous incompetents in office.

Agreed. What is your fix?

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We can't have 2 political parties using the government as a boxing ring to bash each other.

Also agreed. I think the two parties are both beholden to money, and make a show out of hating each other, but no real change in policy happens.

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We are already living in a virtual oligarchy and rapidly heading toward a Hunger Games future. As more and more areas of employment become automated or outmoded by technology, the $$$ that used to flow into society simply get passed up to the wealthy individuals and corporations at the top.

Agreed. How do you think this is happening, and what is your fix?

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We can't have 80% of the population living as debt slaves till they are senior citizens, then getting shuffled off to nursing homes that drain their meager savings.

A government is an organization intended to implement some idea of what civilization should be.
Judging by how America's version of civilization is not working for most of us and never has, it is clear that there are fundamental flaws that need to be corrected.

Except for the part where you say "never" ("Never say never.") I mosly agree with your statements. How do you think the situation got so clusterfucked, and how can it be fixed?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

JO753

Saturday, February 13, 2021 8:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:OK, so I went back to your website to find areas of agreement. Skipping the parts in your intro, in which you obsess (IMHO) about Putin, turning him into some cartoonish and unrealistically clever, powerful bad guy...

Duznt need to be unusually smart. Just needz to be ruthless. Having sum amazing dirt on Trump coud possibly be ascribed to luk.

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Sig: Let's go to areas of agreement, and maybe flesh them out or define them

JO: We can't have an election system that regularly puts dangerous incompetents in office.

Sig: Agreed. What is your fix?

The obvious - get rid uv the electoral collej. No more Jerrymandering. Then, I like the idea uv preferential voting. Mandatory voting with automatic rejistration iz a good idea.

The money needz to be taken out uv the system sumhow. Or at least limited to sum sane amount. I'm reading A Promised Land. Just finished the chapterz about Obamaz 2008 campane. An amazing story, but it shoudnt take such a monumental effort to pik sumwun for the job.

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JO: We can't have 2 political parties using the government as a boxing ring to bash each other.

Sig: Also agreed. I think the two parties are both beholden to money, and make a show out of hating each other, but no real change in policy happens.

Reinstating the Fairness Doctrin coud go a long way to improving thingz. The current GoP coud not exist without the freedom to lie.

It seemz likely they will sine their DNR form this weekend tho, so we may end up with a defacto single party system eventually.

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JO: We are already living in a virtual oligarchy and rapidly heading toward a Hunger Games future. As more and more areas of employment become automated or outmoded by technology, the $$$ that used to flow into society simply get passed up to the wealthy individuals and corporations at the top.
Sig: Agreed. How do you think this is happening, and what is your fix?

Well, therez 3 pajez about money on the site. Plenty uv ideaz there, sum uv them from you and otherz here.

If I had the opportunity to do only 1 thing about it, I woud outlaw interest. (and anything that duz the same thing)

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JO: Judging by how America's version of civilization is not working for most of us and never has, it is clear that there are fundamental flaws that need to be corrected.

Sig: Except for the part where you say "never" ("Never say never.") I mosly agree with your statements. How do you think the situation got so clusterfucked, and how can it be fixed?

Maybe 'most' iz a little bit uv an exajeration, but wen wuz the time wen it did work?

Defining 'work' in the case uv sivilization iz complicated.

Its alwayz been screwed up. Fundamental flawz in our specie'z thot prosessez make it unlikely that we will ever create a perfect sosiety, but we coud do way better than this mess. Many countryz hav better guvrments than the US.

Sorry, out uv time for now.

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SIGNYM

Sunday, February 14, 2021 2:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:OK, so I went back to your website to find areas of agreement. Skipping the parts in your intro, in which you obsess (IMHO) about Putin, turning him into some cartoonish and unrealistically clever, powerful bad guy...

Duznt need to be unusually smart. Just needz to be ruthless. Having sum amazing dirt on Trump coud possibly be ascribed to luk.

Quote:
Sig: Let's go to areas of agreement, and maybe flesh them out or define them

JO: We can't have an election system that regularly puts dangerous incompetents in office.

Sig: Agreed. What is your fix?

The obvious - get rid uv the electoral collej. No more Jerrymandering. Then, I like the idea uv preferential voting. Mandatory voting with automatic rejistration iz a good idea.

The money needz to be taken out uv the system sumhow. Or at least limited to sum sane amount. I'm reading A Promised Land. Just finished the chapterz about Obamaz 2008 campane. An amazing story, but it shoudnt take such a monumental effort to pik sumwun for the job.

Quote:
JO: We can't have 2 political parties using the government as a boxing ring to bash each other.

Sig: Also agreed. I think the two parties are both beholden to money, and make a show out of hating each other, but no real change in policy happens.

Reinstating the Fairness Doctrin coud go a long way to improving thingz. The current GoP coud not exist without the freedom to lie.

It seemz likely they will sine their DNR form this weekend tho, so we may end up with a defacto single party system eventually.

Quote:
JO: We are already living in a virtual oligarchy and rapidly heading toward a Hunger Games future. As more and more areas of employment become automated or outmoded by technology, the $$$ that used to flow into society simply get passed up to the wealthy individuals and corporations at the top.
Sig: Agreed. How do you think this is happening, and what is your fix?

Well, therez 3 pajez about money on the site. Plenty uv ideaz there, sum uv them from you and otherz here.

If I had the opportunity to do only 1 thing about it, I woud outlaw interest. (and anything that duz the same thing)

Quote:
JO: Judging by how America's version of civilization is not working for most of us and never has, it is clear that there are fundamental flaws that need to be corrected.

Sig: Except for the part where you say "never" ("Never say never.") I mosly agree with your statements. How do you think the situation got so clusterfucked, and how can it be fixed?

Maybe 'most' iz a little bit uv an exajeration, but wen wuz the time wen it did work?

Defining 'work' in the case uv sivilization iz complicated.

Its alwayz been screwed up. Fundamental flawz in our specie'z thot prosessez make it unlikely that we will ever create a perfect sosiety, but we coud do way better than this mess. Many countryz hav better guvrments than the US.

Sorry, out uv time for now.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real solution: https://fundrazr.com/71jIY1?ref=ab_f9ZUS0

Out of time here too. I should have come here first instead of engaging with SECONDRATE.
But much food for thought and discussion! Will definitely get back to this, thanks!

BTW just OOC what's been keeping you soon busy lately?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

JO753

Sunday, February 14, 2021 3:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BTW just OOC what's been keeping you soon busy lately?

Mostly wocing the impeachment and reading Obama'z book.

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SIGNYM

Sunday, February 14, 2021 2:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BTW just OOC what's been keeping you soon busy lately?

Mostly wocing the impeachment and reading Obama'z book.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real solution: https://fundrazr.com/71jIY1?ref=ab_f9ZUS0

Oh, I was kind of hoping it was a decent-paying job. Sorry, JO.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Sunday, February 14, 2021 2:43 PM

Quote:
SIGNY: OK, so I went back to your website to find areas of agreement. Skipping the parts in your intro, in which you obsess (IMHO) about Putin, turning him into some cartoonish and unrealistically clever, powerful bad guy...

JO: Duznt need to be unusually smart. Just needz to be ruthless. Having sum amazing dirt on Trump coud possibly be ascribed to luk.

But even if he had dirt on Trump, which I seriously doubt, what has he done with that information that's such a serious threat to us? You can't threaten or harm by means that are so secret that nobody would find out. In order to be a real threat, you have to move troops, or spend a lot of money, or something. Find me a couple of examples where Russia has seriously harmed our interests, bc I'm not seeing it.

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Sig: Let's go to areas of agreement, and maybe flesh them out or define them

JO: We can't have an election system that regularly puts dangerous incompetents in office.

Sig: Agreed. What is your fix?

JO: The obvious - get rid uv the electoral collej.

How does that fix stupid voting? It seems to me that you've already decided that half of the voters in the USA are "the problem" and the only thing that you're doing is reducing their influence as much as possible. But what happens if those "problem" voters become the majority?? what have you fixed?

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JO: No more Jerrymandering.

I agree, but that's not directly pertinent to the problem.

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JO: Then, I like the idea uv preferential voting. Mandatory voting with automatic rejistration iz a good idea.

That's like grabbing the first 12 people off the street ... literally, street people ... to create a jury. The people you envision voting, they're like the people on the Wilcos show. They have no interest in voting and they sure won't look into the issues. I REALLY don't think that would solve the problem of stupid voting, or incompetent politicians!

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JO: The money needz to be taken out uv the system sumhow. Or at least limited to sum sane amount.

Agreed. And since much of that $$ goes to advert, one way to reduce the influence of $$ is to REQUIRE that broadcasters and internet providers provide free, prime-time hours to candidates who reach a certain threshold of voters.

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JO: I'm reading A Promised Land. Just finished the chapterz about Obamaz 2008 campane. An amazing story, but it shoudnt take such a monumental effort to pik sumwun for the job.

Not having read the book, what was so monumental about it?

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JO: We can't have 2 political parties using the government as a boxing ring to bash each other.

Sig: Also agreed. I think the two parties are both beholden to money, and make a show out of hating each other, but no real change in policy happens.

JO: Reinstating the Fairness Doctrin coud go a long way to improving thingz. The current GoP coud not exist without the freedom to lie.

What about not allowing corporate social media to censor speech? Instead of censoring views, media should be REQUIRED to provide an unbaised platform where ALL views are given a fair hearing, and the truth will be thrashed out in the marketplace of ideas.

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JO: It seemz likely they will sine their DNR ...

Do Not Rescusitate?

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... form this weekend tho, so we may end up with a defacto single party system eventually.

???

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JO: We are already living in a virtual oligarchy and rapidly heading toward a Hunger Games future. As more and more areas of employment become automated or outmoded by technology, the $$$ that used to flow into society simply get passed up to the wealthy individuals and corporations at the top.

Sig: Agreed. How do you think this is happening, and what is your fix?

JO: Well, therez 3 pajez about money on the site. Plenty uv ideaz there, sum uv them from you and otherz here.

If I had the opportunity to do only 1 thing about it, I woud outlaw interest. (and anythi

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JO753

Thursday, February 18, 2021 7:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We're all turning into the villain on 12 Monkeys here.

Just woct it.

A greater movie than I remembered.

The C19 pandemic provez the consept - sins our sivilization wuz so eazily bumped off the tracks by a natural virus, a virus enjineered to do az much damaj az possible woud probably be seksesful.

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