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The Nazification of the DNC

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Saturday, July 24, 2021 18:49
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SIGNYM

Friday, January 22, 2021 2:09 AM

And reported by an occupied press

The hallmark of any dictator is that they're afraid of their own people

SIGNYM

Friday, January 22, 2021 3:30 AM

Quote:
President Biden took his oath guarded by troops that he doesn’t trust. The FBI vetted every one of those 25,000 men to make sure they weren’t “white supremacists.” The people who tell us walls don’t work surrounded themselves with walls and barbed wire. Federal agents who let cities burn all summer are now arresting and humiliating those who had dared trespass in the “temple of democracy"

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

REAVERFAN

Friday, January 22, 2021 3:54 AM

American enemy Russian troll spews more lies in an attempt at relevance. ^

Real Americans deal in facts, not stupid ass bullshit like this Russian cunt.

1KIKI

Friday, January 22, 2021 4:03 AM

Biden*'s inauguration crowd. One thing you have to admit, Trump's was bigger.

Who are they waving at?

Who's she waving at? Well, I suppose one must keep up with the Kabuki theater.

SIGNYM

Friday, January 22, 2021 4:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
American enemy Russian troll spews more lies in an attempt at relevance. ^

Real Americans deal in facts, not stupid ass bullshit like this Russian cunt.

Oh, so there were no troops and barbed wire guarding Biden* from an empty mall?

And I see I've been graduated to "Russian cunt" again. Musta hit a nerve!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SECOND

Friday, January 22, 2021 4:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And reported by an occupied press

The hallmark of any dictator is that they're afraid of their own people

Remember Ronald Reagan? He was shot to impress actress Jodie Foster. So who was the dictator? Should Reagan have been deathly afraid of Jodie Foster because she was a better actress than he was an actor?

Signym, I think you have bias against Democrats. What I hear in Texas from Trumptards is that Biden, with his socialistic/communistic/fascistic agenda, will destroy America. How do you feel about that, Signym?

Presidential assassination attempts and plots (even Trump had a few despite being the best President in history, as you and he well know, Signym)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assas
sination_attempts_and_plots#Ronald_Reagan

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Friday, January 22, 2021 4:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Who are they waving at?

Who's she waving at? Well, I suppose one must keep up with the Kabuki theater.

I am pretty sure they are waving at Al Roker, the weatherman on the Today Show.

Here is Al Roker with River Tam at a Thanksgiving Day Parade. Everybody waves at Al.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, January 22, 2021 4:27 AM

America is in its death throes.

You can put that in the Predictions Thread.

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A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.

SECOND

Friday, January 22, 2021 4:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
America is in its death throes.

You can put that in the Predictions Thread.

I think you are a little depressed that fat dumb Trump is not President. Don't worry, he will be back dumber and fatter in 2024 to lead the nation.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, January 22, 2021 4:46 AM

Nah. Not depressed.

Stuff within my control is going to continue to be fixed and I'll continue to make improvements to my own life. That had nothing to do with Trump being president, and the fact that Biden* is now won't derail it either.

We were given a Republic though... and it turns out we couldn't keep it.

Shame.

:(

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A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.

REAVERFAN

Friday, January 22, 2021 5:02 AM

Biden won in the fairest, most democratic election ever.

He's already firing off executive orders defeating some of the most fascistic, evil shit Trump pulled.

You're just sad that you didn't get your fascist shithole country, and the adults are back in charge.

REAVERFAN

Friday, January 22, 2021 5:07 AM

I find it amusing that you're upset with all the security and the observation of COVID protocol, when IT WAS YOUR OWN FELLOW NAZIS WHO CAUSED THE SECURITY TO HAVE TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

YOUR VIOLENT, MUDEROUS, TERRORIST ATTACK CAUSED THIS, AND YOU TRY TO PRETEND YOU AREN'T A FASCIST TERRORIST SUPPORTER.

The stupid just oozes from your evil, lying, Russian troll ass.

REAVERFAN

Friday, January 22, 2021 5:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And reported by an occupied press

The hallmark of any dictator is that they're afraid of their own people

Golly! Look at that!

Founded in 2016, The Duran is a strongly right-leaning news and opinion website with ties to Russian state media. Based in Cyprus, the editor of the website is Alexander Mercouris, who in 2012 was disbarred as an attorney in London. According to the Telegraph, he then went on to become a “pro-Russian commentator on world affairs for Russian TV news outlets and websites.”

Overall, we rate The Duran a Questionable source based on far-right-wing bias, promotion of Russian propaganda, and right-wing conspiracies, a lack of transparency, use of poor sources plagiarism and, failed fact checks.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-duran/

You always, only, post the dumbest Russian propaganda you can. You have no more credibility than your shit sources, Russian troll bitch.

SECOND

Friday, January 22, 2021 5:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. Not depressed.

Stuff within my control is going to continue to be fixed and I'll continue to make improvements to my own life. That had nothing to do with Trump being president, and the fact that Biden* is now won't derail it either.

We were given a Republic though... and it turns out we couldn't keep it.

Shame.

:(

What a load of malarkey. I thought America was in deep trouble during the Vietnam War, it being the stupidest, most incompetently run project in history. But on the other hand, the smartest project in history, Apollo, was going to the Moon at the same time as the War. The highs and lows all evened out into a bumpy plain for America. During the Trump years, there were lows and more lows. The lowest almost caused WWIII: "By Far the Worst Thing Trump Did Was Flirt With Nuclear War With North Korea". That was 100% Trump's foolishness.
https://theintercept.com/2021/01/20/biden-inauguration-trump-north-kor
ea/

Then there was Trump's stupidity about Covid-19. Nobody in the World has the problems America has because nobody was as stupid as Trump about this pandemic. There are 31,300,000 articles about how stupid was America's response to covid-19. It was Trump's fault all the way.
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+stupid+was+America's+response+
to+covid-19%3F

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Friday, January 22, 2021 5:24 AM

So ... apparently no amount of metal-screening, ID validation, and social distancing were sufficient? EVERYbody had to be excluded?

I certainly am no fan of Hitler, but once thing you can say about him compared to basement Biden* is that he was able to fill stadia will cheering, saluting fans who were no threat to him at all.

RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

Meanwhile, let me just snicker a bit about basement Biden* being terrified of us citizens of the US.

REAVERFAN

Friday, January 22, 2021 5:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

So ... apparently no amount of metal-screening, ID validation, and social distancing were sufficient? EVERYbody had to be excluded?

I certainly am no fan of Hitler, but once thing you can say about him compared to basement Biden* is that he was able to fill stadia will cheering, saluting fans who were no threat to him at all.

Meanwhile, let me just snicker a bit about basement Biden* being terrified of us citizens of the US.

This Russian troll doesn't seem to know there's this pandemic going on, and that the murdering terrorists this troll loves and supports are why they have to be careful.

You're a terrorist. You are not welcome. Consider your Russian ass owned.

1KIKI

Friday, January 22, 2021 5:56 AM

Sure there's a pandemic going on.

Is that a reason for the ENTIRE MALL being empty?

Whatever.

RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, January 22, 2021 6:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The hallmark of any dictator is that they're afraid of their own people

more and more desperate

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, January 22, 2021 6:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I certainly am no fan of Hitler....

The fact that you felt you needed to say that!

Priceless.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, January 22, 2021 6:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. Not depressed.

Stuff within my control is going to continue to be fixed and I'll continue to make improvements to my own life. That had nothing to do with Trump being president, and the fact that Biden* is now won't derail it either.

We were given a Republic though... and it turns out we couldn't keep it.

Shame.

:(
What a load of malarkey. I thought America was in deep trouble during the Vietnam War, it being the stupidest, most incompetently run project in history. But on the other hand, the smartest project in history, Apollo, was going to the Moon at the same time as the War. The highs and lows all evened out into a bumpy plain for America. During the Trump years, there were lows and more lows. The lowest almost caused WWIII: "By Far the Worst Thing Trump Did Was Flirt With Nuclear War With North Korea". That was 100% Trump's foolishness.
https://theintercept.com/2021/01/20/biden-inauguration-trump-north-kor
ea/

Then there was Trump's stupidity about Covid-19. Nobody in the World has the problems America has because nobody was as stupid as Trump about this pandemic. There are 31,300,000 articles about how stupid was America's response to covid-19. It was Trump's fault all the way.
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+stupid+was+America's+response+
to+covid-19%3F

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Proposition: Anytime we all want to stop talking to these 2 fcks like they’re rational, honest posters is ok by me.

1KIKI

Friday, January 22, 2021 6:13 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I certainly am no fan of Hitler....

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The fact that you felt you needed to say that! Priceless.

Well, assholes like you constantly accusing me of being a Nazi - or Russian Troll™ - might be one reason I might feel the need to say that.

Now - tell me you're not a lying asshole.

MUSHY is lying asshole.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, January 22, 2021 6:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I certainly am no fan of Hitler....

Quote:

The fact that you felt you needed to say that! Priceless.

Well, assholes like you constantly accusing me of being a Nazi - or Russian Troll™ - might be one reason I might feel the need to say that

Now - prove to me you're not an asshole.

“Constantly accusing?” Sure thing Karen.

1KIKI

Friday, January 22, 2021 6:32 AM

MUSHY is lying asshole.

1KIKI

Friday, January 22, 2021 6:34 AM

Meanwhile, let's feast out eyes on Joe and Jill, who went up the hill ...

... waving to their adoring throngs. And, how far back DID those barriers go, exactly? There is absolutely nobody on any of the streets as far as can be seen.

SIGNYM

Friday, January 22, 2021 6:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

So ... apparently no amount of metal-screening, ID validation, and social distancing were sufficient? EVERYbody had to be excluded?

I certainly am no fan of Hitler, but once thing you can say about him compared to basement Biden* is that he was able to fill stadia will cheering, saluting fans who were no threat to him at all.

Meanwhile, let me just snicker a bit about basement Biden* being terrified of us citizens of the US.

This Russian troll doesn't seem to know there's this pandemic going on, and that the murdering terrorists this troll loves and supports are why they have to be careful.

You're a terrorist. You are not welcome. Consider your Russian ass owned.

The AntiAmerican troll doesn't seem to have noticed that there was no problem ginning up cheek-by-jowl mobs for "mostly peaceful" riots.

That big empty space that Biden* was waving to?

Just an indication of how many adoring fans and voters he has. As is the "let's change the American demographic" policy. Because, yanno, he's so popular with Americans.

/snicker

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, January 22, 2021 8:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Just an indication of how many adoring fans and voters he has. As is the "let's change the American demographic" policy. Because, yanno, he's so popular with Americans.

/snicker

Who won the popular vote by how many millions? Am I wrong or did he get the largest number of votes ever?
/snicker

1KIKI

Friday, January 22, 2021 9:25 AM

Yeah, that needs to be studied. Not that YOU'D go for it, of course, because you're just as stupid as democrats* AND republicans.

WISHIMAY

Friday, January 22, 2021 12:00 PM

Wait, are they really picking on this administration for wearing masks and being cautious???

I'm quite sure if Chump had done it, it would have made them soooo happy.

I hope they end up on a well used ventilator

WISHIMAY

Friday, January 22, 2021 12:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Stuff within my control is going to continue to be fixed and I'll continue to make improvements to my own life.

Are you really gonna leave the house, IN WINTER no less??

Don't forget your mittens and your juice box, Kevie.

SIGNYM

Friday, January 22, 2021 12:46 PM

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SIGNYM: Just an indication of how many adoring fans and voters he has. As is the "let's change the American demographic" policy. Because, yanno, he's so popular with Americans.

/snicker

CC: Who won the popular vote by how many millions? Am I wrong or did he get the largest number of votes ever?
/snicker

Riiiiight.

Keep telling yourself that the guy who couldn't fill a high school gymnasium with free admission got the popular vote.

That must be why the Biden* administration is working so hard to muzzle, blacklist, harrass, and imprison anyone who voted for Trump ... because Biden's* so confident of his mandate.

/snicker

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

WISHIMAY

Friday, January 22, 2021 1:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Keep telling yourself that the guy who couldn't fill a high school gymnasium *DURING A PANDEMIC BECAUSE DEMOCRATS AREN'T DUMB ENOUGH LIKE CHUMP VOTERS TO GO COUGH ON OTHER PEOPLE*

FIFY

I've gotten a dozen texts from people this week who are overjoyed Chump is gone.
Know how many I got when Chump won??

ZERO

Turns out EVERYONE HATES CHUMP, no one wanted to talk about it because they know Chumpers are violently stupid...

Rethuglican Gullibullz

SIGNYM

Friday, January 22, 2021 1:34 PM

Quote:
TWITCHY: Keep telling yourself that the guy who couldn't fill a high school gymnasium *DURING A PANDEMIC BECAUSE DEMOCRATS AREN'T DUMB ENOUGH LIKE CHUMP VOTERS TO GO COUGH ON OTHER PEOPLE*

But they're stupid enuf to go out and riot packed together like a bunch of sardines?

Quote:
I've gotten a dozen texts from people this week who are overjoyed Chump is gone.
Know how many I got when Chump won??
ZERO

Turns out EVERYONE HATES CHUMP

There you go, with the exaggeration again.

75 MILLION people voted for Trump the second time around, and I doubt that Biden even got 60 million legitimate votes. So no, sweetcheeks, not "everybody" hates Trump.

Do you know I know how much the Biden" administration is afraid of Trump's support? Because of the censorship and martial law that he is willing to impose to stifle it, and the "let's change the demographics of the USA" policies, because HE* knows (even if you don't) that he is NOT popular with Americans.

But keep telling yourself that he* is, and maybe someday you'll believe it.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

WISHIMAY

Friday, January 22, 2021 2:06 PM

I have never in my life seen people so willfully delusional than Chump supporters.

SO DESPERATE to have someone justify their racisms...they pretend millions upon millions of votes were faked.

You have to admit...if ****MILLIONS**** of votes WERE actually faked, Dems EARNED the presidency THE HARD WAY!

Now, why didn't the Chump campaign work harder to fake more votes, since they had the money and all??

SIGNYM

Friday, January 22, 2021 2:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
I have never in my life seen people so willfully delusional than Chump supporters.

SO DESPERATE to have someone justify their racisms...they pretend millions upon millions of votes were faked.

I have never seen anyone work so hard to revolve everything around "race". That makes YOU the most racist person here.

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You have to admit...if ****MILLIONS**** of votes WERE actually faked, Dems EARNED the presidency THE HARD WAY!

Now, why didn't the Chump campaign work harder to fake more votes, since they had the money and all??

Maybe because he believes in democracy, and you DON'T?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

1KIKI

Friday, January 22, 2021 3:07 PM

I'm still puzzling over this picture. How far back DID those barricades get set? On the very outskirts of DC? Because you'd THINK if Biden was so darn popular, there'd be throngs AT the barricades, just hoping to be part of history, or something. And I'm just not seeing it. Where are the throngs anywhere?

WISHIMAY

Friday, January 22, 2021 8:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Maybe because he believes in DICTATORSHIPS, like Kiki and I do?

FIFY

WISHIMAY

Friday, January 22, 2021 8:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

And I'm just not seeing it. Where are the throngs anywhere?

They were HOME, being the party of "Live to See History" rather than be the Chump party of "Spread Stupid Viruses to Stupid People" Party.

It really is quite amazing the difference in intelligence levels between the two isn't it?? I guess that's just one of the many ways Democrats REALLY ARE different..

Yanno...that, and the FBI doesn't have to warn the general public about them.
I can go about my day pretty secure that a Dem isn't gonna shoot hundreds of people from a rooftop

And I'm ALSO pretty sure a Dem isn't going to make stupid statements about reproduction today.

I'm pretty sure no Dem I know would say "Give me MY social security and then stop the program" just like Rappy did.

Pretty sure most Dems wouldn't embezzle from charities or devise new laws and schemes to try to get around paying taxes like Chump did.

Pretty sure most Dems aren't planning to assault a POC today, while being filmed!!! like the thousands of Rethuglicans have.

Pretty sure Dem legislators aren't going to give tours of the capitol so that thugs could break in and act like knuckle draggers.

Pretty sure the Dem president isn't going to lie 45000 times today, and is going to leave office when his time comes to do so, and is going to do it with honor and dignity.

But then, it's because Dems have higher standards.
Maybe you should look into having higher standards??

WISHIMAY

Friday, January 22, 2021 9:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have never seen anyone work so hard to erase all mentions of the word "race" like I do. If someone mentions race then they might figure out how much I hate black people but constantly cry over brown people in some weird twisted attempt to make America and it's allies look bad for trying to kill terrorists. How DARE America fight terrorism and not just surrender to drunken Russians!

This has been today's segment of "Twisted thoughts from Sigheil".

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, January 22, 2021 10:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have never seen anyone work so hard to erase all mentions of the word "race" like I do. If someone mentions race then they might figure out how much I hate black people but constantly cry over brown people in some weird twisted attempt to make America and it's allies look bad for trying to kill terrorists. How DARE America fight terrorism and not just surrender to drunken Russians!

This has been today's segment of "Twisted thoughts from Sigheil".

Prediction: SIGBUTT, KLUNKI, and 6FORBRAINS, will be the death of this forum.

And by that I mean they will eventually find themselves here all alone except for themselves. What a dull, grim, low forehead prospect.

SIGNYM

Friday, January 22, 2021 10:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have never seen anyone work so hard to erase all mentions of the word "race" like I do. If someone mentions race then they might figure out how much I hate black people but constantly cry over brown people in some weird twisted attempt to make America and it's allies look bad for trying to kill terrorists. How DARE America fight terrorism and not just surrender to drunken Russians!

This has been today's segment of "Twisted thoughts from Sigheil".

Prediction: SIGBUTT, KLUNKI, and 6FORBRAINS, will be the death of this forum. And by that I mean they will eventually find themselves here all al
one except for themselves. What a dull, grim, low forehead prospect.

NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT RACE.

What about jobs?
The hollowing out of America's manufacturing economy?
The upsurge of non-essential "gig" economy?
The financialization of everything?
The "everything" bubble?
The horrific wealth gap?
The massive debt overhang at every (personal, business, government, trade) level?
Border security?
Censorship by corporate monopolies?
Environmental remediation?
Health care?
CIA forays and military "intervnetions" across the globe?
Politicized prosecutions?
Loss of Constitutional protections to the security state?
Nuclear war?
Health care?

Isn't it enough to say that I'm for equality and leave it at that? Or do I HAVE to inject "race" into EVERY post, whether it belongs there or not??

Yanno, if we had meaningful work at a living wage for everyone who wanted to work and was capable, and if we had a real meritocracy at all levels: in school; for job applictions, rental and loan applications, etc (and btw I have suggested several ways of going about it) ... we wouldn't be fighting so hard over scraps. Because that's what we're doing: We're fighting over scraps. Just like TPTB want.

What WISHY wants isn't equality, it's PRIVILEGE. She wants PRIVILEGE in a twisted system. I want to untwist the system and make it work for everyone. So how about starting with jobs and equality?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Friday, January 22, 2021 11:03 PM

Quote:
READ: Joe Biden's inaugural address

This is America's day.
This is democracy's day.
A day of history and hope.
Of renewal and resolve.
Through a crucible for the ages America has been tested anew and America has risen to the challenge.
Today, we celebrate the triumph not of a candidate, but of a cause, the cause of democracy.
The will of the people has been heard and the will of the people has been heeded.
We have learned again that democracy is precious.
Democracy is fragile.
And at this hour, my friends, democracy has prevailed.
So now, on this hallowed ground where just days ago violence sought to shake this Capitol's very foundation, we come together as one nation, under God, indivisible, to carry out the peaceful transfer of power as we have for more than two centuries.
We look ahead in our uniquely American way -- restless, bold, optimistic -- and set our sights on the nation we know we can be and we must be.
I thank my predecessors of both parties for their presence here.
I thank them from the bottom of my heart.
You know the resilience of our Constitution and the strength of our nation.
As does President Carter, who I spoke to last night but who cannot be with us today, but whom we salute for his lifetime of service.
I have just taken the sacred oath each of these patriots took — an oath first sworn by George Washington.
But the American story depends not on any one of us, not on some of us, but on all of us.
On "We the People" who seek a more perfect Union.
This is a great nation and we are a good people.
Over the centuries through storm and strife, in peace and in war, we have come so far. But we still have far to go.
We will press forward with speed and urgency, for we have much to do in this winter of peril and possibility.
Much to repair.
Much to restore.
Much to heal.
Much to build.
And much to gain.
Few periods in our nation's history have been more challenging or difficult than the one we're in now.
A once-in-a-century virus silently stalks the country.
It's taken as many lives in one year as America lost in all of World War II.
Millions of jobs have been lost.
Hundreds of thousands of businesses closed.
A cry for racial justice some 400 years in the making moves us. The dream of justice for all will be deferred no longer.
A cry for survival comes from the planet itself. A cry that can't be any more desperate or any more clear.
And now, a rise in political extremism, white supremacy, domestic terrorism that we must confront and we will defeat.
To overcome these challenges -- to restore the soul and to secure the future of America -- requires more than words.
It requires that most elusive of things in a democracy:
Unity.
Unity.
In another January in Washington, on New Year's Day 1863, Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation.
When he put pen to paper, the President said, "If my name ever goes down into history it will be for this act and my whole soul is in it."
My whole soul is in it.
Today, on this January day, my whole soul is in this:
Bringing America together.
Uniting our people.
And uniting our nation.
I ask every American to join me in this cause.
Uniting to fight the common foes we face:
Anger, resentment, hatred.
Extremism, lawlessness, violence.
Disease, joblessness, hopelessness.
With unity we can do great things. Important things.
We can right wrongs.
We can put people to work in good jobs.
We can teach our children in safe schools.
We can overcome this deadly virus.
We can reward work, rebuild the middle class, and make health care
secure for all.
We can deliver racial justice.
We can make America, once again, the leading force for good in the world.
I know speaking of unity can sound to some like a foolish fantasy.
I know the forces that divide us are deep and they are real.
But I also know they are not new.
Our history has been a constant struggle between the American ideal that we are all created equal and the harsh, ugly reality that racism, nativi

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SIGNYM

Friday, January 22, 2021 11:22 PM

What I don't understand is why YOU don't notice your immediate U-turn on the use of the military in civilian spaces.

Not four months ago, you were all apoplectic... red faced and stroking out ...about Federal police guarding Federal buildings. YOU were cheering on riots ... arson, attempted murder, attempted blindings of those police... because, yanno, it was the END OF DEMOCRACY!

NOW, you celebrate the use of hand-picked National Guard to occupy Washington DC, with a BIGGER show of force than deployed in ACTUAL RIOTS. All because the media huffed and puffed that there was going to be Big Trouble at the Inauguration.

The only difference between you hating the police or hiding behind them is which side [you think] they're protecting. It's not the idea of the END OF DEMOCRACY that troubles you ... because you would obviously give it up in a heartbeat if it meant "your side" was wielding the baton and gun.

Don't you EVER notice that you're hypocrites? That you actually HATE free speech if anyone besides YOU gets to speak? That you actually HATE DEMOCRACY if anyone besides YOU is represented? That you actually HATE AMERICA if anyone insists on the government exercising it's sovereign rights?

Or is that entirely beyond you?

Well, anyway, we'll all get your tyranny of the "woke" because you were too stupid to notice that you were trampling on other peoples' rights. It won't help most Americans, and our overall economic withering will continue aas Biden* once again snuggles in Chian's armpit, but what the hell.

Not that that ever really bothered you.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

REAVERFAN

Friday, January 22, 2021 11:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

So ... apparently no amount of metal-screening, ID validation, and social distancing were sufficient? EVERYbody had to be excluded?

I certainly am no fan of Hitler, but once thing you can say about him compared to basement Biden* is that he was able to fill stadia will cheering, saluting fans who were no threat to him at all.

Meanwhile, let me just snicker a bit about basement Biden* being terrified of us citizens of the US.

This Russian troll doesn't seem to know there's this pandemic going on, and that the murdering terrorists this troll loves and supports are why they have to be careful.

You're a terrorist. You are not welcome. Consider your Russian ass owned.

The AntiAmerican troll doesn't seem to have noticed that there was no problem ginning up cheek-by-jowl mobs for "mostly peaceful" riots.

That big empty space that Biden* was waving to?

Just an indication of how many adoring fans and voters he has. As is the "let's change the American demographic" policy. Because, yanno, he's so popular with Americans.

Wow. Pointless and meaningless as all your other shitposts, cunt.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, January 23, 2021 12:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT RACE.

What about jobs?
The hollowing out of America's manufacturing economy?
The upsurge of non-essential "gig" economy?
The financialization of everything?
The "everything" bubble?
The horrific wealth gap?
The massive debt overhang at every (personal, business, government, trade) level?
Border security?
Censorship by corporate monopolies?
Environmental remediation?
Health care?
CIA forays and military "intervnetions" across the globe?
Politicized prosecutions?
Loss of Constitutional protections to the security state?
Nuclear war?
Health care?
Isn't it enough to say that I'm for equality
and leave it at that?
Or do I HAVE to inject "race" into EVERY post, whether it belongs there or not??
Yanno, if we had meaningful work at a living wage for everyone who wanted to work and was capable,
and if we had a real meritocracy at all levels:
in school;
for job applictions,
rental and loan applications, etc
(and btw I have suggested several ways of going about it)
... we wouldn't be fighting so hard over scraps.
Because that's what we're doing:
We're fighting over scraps.
Just like TPTB want.
What WISHY wants isn't equality,
it's PRIVILEGE.
She wants PRIVILEGE in a twisted system.
I want to untwist the system and make it work for everyone.
So how about starting with jobs and equality?

Am I imaging it, or is there a "See Spot run. Run Spot, run" quality about it?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, January 23, 2021 12:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What I don't understand is why YOU don't notice your immediate U-turn on the use of the military in civilian spaces.

Not four months ago, you were all apoplectic... red faced and stroking out ...about Federal police guarding Federal buildings. YOU were cheering on riots ... arson, attempted murder, attempted blindings of those police... because, yanno, it was the END OF DEMOCRACY!

NOW, you celebrate the use of hand-picked National Guard to occupy Washington DC, with a BIGGER show of force than deployed in ACTUAL RIOTS. All because the media huffed and puffed that there was going to be Big Trouble at the Inauguration.

The only difference between you hating the police or hiding behind them is which side [you think] they're protecting. It's not the idea of the END OF DEMOCRACY that troubles you ... because you would obviously give it up in a heartbeat if it meant "your side" was wielding the baton and gun.

Don't you EVER notice that you're hypocrites? That you actually HATE free speech if anyone besides YOU gets to speak? That you actually HATE DEMOCRACY if anyone besides YOU is represented? That you actually HATE AMERICA if anyone insists on the government exercising it's sovereign rights?

Or is that entirely beyond you?

Well, anyway, we'll all get your tyranny of the "woke" because you were too stupid to notice that you were trampling on other peoples' rights. It won't help most Americans, and our overall economic withering will continue aas Biden* once again snuggles in Chian's armpit, but what the hell.

Not that that ever really bothered you.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

This.

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A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.

SECOND

Saturday, January 23, 2021 2:17 AM

Twenty-three minutes after assuming the presidency, Joe Biden demanded the resignation of Peter Robb, the notoriously anti-union general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board appointed by Donald Trump. Robb refused to resign, so Biden fired him. Alice Stock, another anti-union Trump appointee, then assumed the role of acting general counsel—and Biden demanded her resignation the next day. Stock also refused to resign, so Biden fired her, too.

Both Robb and Stock, who relentlessly undermined unions’ ability to organize and bargain, are now complaining that Biden fired them without just cause. Stock went so far as to suggest that Robb’s firing was illegal. She is wrong. Robb and Stock were at-will employees of the executive. Like the countless American workers whom they prevented from unionizing, they had no guarantee against termination without just cause. Biden did not violate any laws. He simply gave the nation’s chief union busters a taste of their own medicine.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/peter-robb-alice-stock-nlr
b-fired.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Saturday, January 23, 2021 2:45 AM

The GOP is complaining that Joe Biden is being “Divisive” by governing like a Democrat.

Joe Biden used his inaugural address this week to call for a new era of national unity, promising to put his “whole soul” into bringing the country together after the vitriol, violence, and collective trauma of the Trump years. And how are Republicans responding? Largely by trying to club the president with his own words, accusing him of being “divisive” every time he opens his mouth or signs a sheet of paper.

Some conservatives have worked themselves into a righteous huff by accusing the president of demonizing them during his speech, in which he said the country faced “a rise in political extremism, white supremacy, domestic terrorism that we must confront and we will defeat” and urged Americans to “reject the culture in which facts themselves are manipulated and even manufactured.”

To the average listener, these lines may have sounded like a straightforward acknowledgment of the fact that a mob of Donald Trump’s supporters, a number of whom were decked out with white supremacist symbols, had just sacked the U.S. Capitol after being fed lies about a stolen election. But Republicans like Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul said they took personal offense. “If you read his speech and listen to it carefully, much of it is thinly veiled innuendo calling us white supremacists, calling us racists, calling us every name in the book, calling us people who don’t tell the truth,” he told Fox News. Assuming it isn’t just pure bad faith, Paul’s reaction seems to say more about him than it does about Biden.

https://slate.com/business/2021/01/republicans-biden-unity-divisive.ht
ml

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Saturday, January 23, 2021 3:08 AM

Quote:
They were HOME, being the party of "Live to See History" rather than be the Chump party of "Spread Stupid Viruses to Stupid People" Party.

Yeah WISHI - don't believe your own lying eyes. That complete lack of evidence for interest in Joe's inauguration was just a hiccup. Never doubt that Joe* got the most votes evuh! because he was SO popular that people just couldn't get enough of him!

Every bit of news treats us like we're simpletons, unable to understand a complicated and nuanced reality. And we need to be guided with simple stories and real-sounding factoids (without evidence) told to us by sincere-faced news-actors and instant experts and tptb mouthpieces.

THO I GUARANTEE ALL THIS THEATER TO GUIDE US FOR OUR OWN GOOD. I'M SURE OF IT. /sarcasm

And so reading a simple news article or watching a news show is like writing a fucking PhD dissertation, where I have to track down every original research paper or project report or 'source' background just to try to figure out what the fuck is going on with any particular news item.

What an obvious crock they're shoving at us, from all directions.

Well, some people notice it's a crock.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, January 23, 2021 3:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What I don't understand is why YOU don't notice your immediate U-turn on the use of the military in civilian spaces.

Not four months ago, you were all apoplectic... red faced and stroking out ...about Federal police guarding Federal buildings. YOU were cheering on riots ... arson, attempted murder, attempted blindings of those police... because, yanno, it was the END OF DEMOCRACY!

NOW, you celebrate the use of hand-picked National Guard to occupy Washington DC, with a BIGGER show of force than deployed in ACTUAL RIOTS. All because the media huffed and puffed that there was going to be Big Trouble at the Inauguration.

The only difference between you hating the police or hiding behind them is which side [you think] they're protecting. It's not the idea of the END OF DEMOCRACY that troubles you ... because you would obviously give it up in a heartbeat if it meant "your side" was wielding the baton and gun.

Don't you EVER notice that you're hypocrites? That you actually HATE free speech if anyone besides YOU gets to speak? That you actually HATE DEMOCRACY if anyone besides YOU is represented? That you actually HATE AMERICA if anyone insists on the government exercising it's sovereign rights?

Or is that entirely beyond you?

Well, anyway, we'll all get your tyranny of the "woke" because you were too stupid to notice that you were trampling on other peoples' rights. It won't help most Americans, and our overall economic withering will continue aas Biden* once again snuggles in Chian's armpit, but what the hell.

Not that that ever really bothered you.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

This....

...is total bullshit.

I'd break it down and blow it up line by line, but already I've spent too much time on it.

SIGNYM

Saturday, January 23, 2021 6:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What I don't understand is why YOU don't notice your immediate U-turn on the use of the military in civilian spaces.

Not four months ago, you were all apoplectic... red faced and stroking out ...about Federal police guarding Federal buildings. YOU were cheering on riots ... arson, attempted murder, attempted blindings of those police... because, yanno, it was the END OF DEMOCRACY!

NOW, you celebrate the use of hand-picked National Guard to occupy Washington DC, with a BIGGER show of force than deployed in ACTUAL RIOTS. All because the media huffed and puffed that there was going to be Big Trouble at the Inauguration.

The only difference between you hating the police or hiding behind them is which side [you think] they're protecting. It's not the idea of the END OF DEMOCRACY that troubles you ... because you would obviously give it up in a heartbeat if it meant "your side" was wielding the baton and gun.

Don't you EVER notice that you're hypocrites? That you actually HATE free speech if anyone besides YOU gets to speak? That you actually HATE DEMOCRACY if anyone besides YOU is represented? That you actually HATE AMERICA if anyone insists on the government exercising it's sovereign rights?

Or is that entirely beyond you?

Well, anyway, we'll all get your tyranny of the "woke" because you were too stupid to notice that you were trampling on other peoples' rights. It won't help most Americans, and our overall economic withering will continue aas Biden* once again snuggles in Chian's armpit, but what the hell.

Not that that ever really bothered you.

SIX:
This....

CAPTNZILCH:
...is total bullshit.

I'd break it down and blow it up line by line, but I can't, so I'll pretend that I've already I've spent too much time on it.

FIFY.

Feel free to dispute my post, word by word even, if you're up to it.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

WISHIMAY

Saturday, January 23, 2021 12:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Am I imaging it, or is there a "See Spot run. Run Spot, run" quality about it?

Imagining it, no. Trying to come up with bullshit to bitch about, YEP.

Speeches aren't supposed to be understood by only the most intelligent, wordiest people. They are supposed to be able to be understood by EVERYONE, including the dimmest children of the dimmest Rethuglicans.

It's a great speech, and you are stellar asshole for trying to run it down.

SIGNYM

Saturday, January 23, 2021 1:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Am I imaging it, or is there a "See Spot run. Run Spot, run" quality about it?

Imagining it, no. Trying to come up with bullshit to bitch about, YEP.

Speeches aren't supposed to be understood by only the most intelligent, wordiest people. They are supposed to be able to be understood by EVERYONE, including the dimmest children of the dimmest Rethuglicans.

It's a great speech, and you are stellar asshole for trying to run it down.

Since you're a dim person, I would imagine that you thought it was a great speech.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Saturday, January 23, 2021 1:55 PM

This is what I got out of Biden's speech:

Quote:
This is half of America's day.
Today, we celebrate the triumph not of a candidate, but of a cause, the cause of Democrats.
The will of the people has been heard and the will of the people has been buried.
We have learned again that Democrats are precious.
Democrats are fragile.
And at this hour, my friends, Democrats have prevailed.

So now, on this hallowed ground, we come together as one elite, invisible, to carry out the peaceful transfer of power to us, as we have yearned for more than two centuries.

We look ahead in our uniquely elitist way -- cold, calculating, dishonest and brutal-- and set our sights on the nation we want it to be.

I thank my co-conspirators of both parties for their presence here.
I thank them from the bottom of my heart.
You know the despondance of our underlings and the strength of our wealth.
But over the centuries through storm and strife, in peace and in war, we have come so far. But we still have far to go.
We the elite will press forward with speed and urgency, for we have much to do in this winter of peril and possibility.

Much to despoil.
Much to divide.
Much to subjugate.
And much to gain.
Few periods in our nation's history have been more challenging or difficult than the one we're in now.
A once-in-a-century virus silently stalks the country.
It's taken as many lives in one year as America lost in all of World War II.
Millions of jobs have been lost.
Hundreds of thousands of businesses closed.
What a wonderful opportunity for us.

The dream of interchangeability between all will be deferred no longer.

And now, a rise in populism, nationalism, and patriotism we must confront and we will defeat.
To overcome these challenges -- to secure our future in America -- requires more than words.
It requires propaganda.

Unity.
Unity.
Unity is the banner under which we will quell dissent and dissatisfaction.
When he put pen to paper, the President said, "If my name ever goes down into history it will be for this act and my whole soul is in it."
My whole soul is in it.
Today, on this January day, my whole soul is in this:
Bringing America to heel.
Uniformity across the land.

I ask every American to join me in this cause.
Informing on your neighbors, co-workers, and even family.
Using anger, resentment, hatred.
Extremism, lawlessness, violence.
Disease, joblessness, hopelessness.
With unity we elite can do great things. Power things. Money things.
We can do wrongs.
We can put people out of work from good jobs.
We can mold our children in state scools.
We can use this deadly virus to overcome resistance.
We can parasitize work, and make health care
secure for hospital corporations and pharma.
We can deliver racial injustice.
We can make America, once again, the leading force for money in the world.

I know speaking of unity can sound to some like a foolish propaganda.
I know the forces that divide us are deep and they are real.
But I also know they can be used.
Our history has been a constant struggle between the American ideal, and us.
Our victory is never assured.

Through the Civil War, the Great Depression, World War, 9/11, through struggle, sacrifice, and setbacks, our "betters" have always prevailed.

The people can see us, not as adversaries but as neighbors.
We can pretend to treat them with dignity and respect.
We can join forces, stop the shouting, and lower expectations.

For without uniformity, we will have no peace, only bitterness and fury.
No oligarchy, only a state of chaos.
This is our historic moment of crisis and challenge, and unity is the preferred message.
And, we must meet this moment by pretneding that we're for the United States of America.
If we don't that, I guarantee you, we will fail.
We have never, ever, ever failed in America when we have acted together.
And so today, at this time and in this place, let us start afresh to take control, and never let the people in the door again.

This

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REAVERFAN

Saturday, January 23, 2021 2:30 PM

^ What else can a Russian troll do at this point?

SECOND

Saturday, January 23, 2021 5:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is what I got . . .

This is what I got:

a Republican lawmaker nearly brought a gun onto the House floor, further stoking concerns about Capitol security and whether members of Congress need protection from one another.

The renewed anxiety just two weeks after the deadly Jan. 6 attack was sparked by Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.) when he set off a newly installed metal detector off the House floor with a concealed gun, despite a longtime ban on firearms in the chamber.

The incident followed numerous reports of other Republicans, accustomed to bypassing metal detectors in the Capitol, chafing at the new security measures. Some Democrats are now openly expressing that they don’t feel safe around certain colleagues.

Rep. Kathleen Rice (D-N.Y.) said she never would have envisioned violence breaking out during floor debate when she first started serving in the House in 2015. Now, she says, it’s another story.

“You can’t be afraid that the person that you’re having a little argument with on the floor with C-SPAN watching is going to pull a gun and, like, shoot you,” Rice said. “If you had said that to me six years ago I’d say, ‘Whoever is afraid of that is crazy. That would never happen.’ Now? Sorry. All bets are off. It's a totally different climate. Totally different climate. And we have to recognize that.”

The metal detectors were installed last week after first-term GOP Reps. Lauren Boebert (Colo.) and Madison Cawthorn (N.C.) publicly discussed carrying their weapons around Capitol Hill. Both were also among several House Republicans who engaged in inflammatory rhetoric promoting former President Trump’s false claims of election fraud ahead of the Capitol attack that left five people dead.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/535505-capitol-tensions-running-hig
h-gun-incident-near-house-floor

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Saturday, January 23, 2021 6:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
^ What else can a Russian troll do at this point?

It's very simple, REAVERBOT.

If Biden* meant what he* said about unity, he would

Tell Congress to stop the second impeachment charade, which is just as specious as the first and of even more dubious Constitutionality seeing as Trump has already left office

Appoint a Commission with real data scientists, programmers, and security experts including Trump supporters and vote skeptics to investigate vote irregularities - yanno, spend at least as much time on that as Mueller did investigating nothing; and draw conclusions about the last (2020) vote and recommend procedures which will make the vote secure and transparent;

Stop assuming that everyone who supported Trump is a Domestic Terrorist, because they're not;

Reverse his policy of aiming to make 11 milion illegal immigrants citizens (that's prolly by about how much he lost the vote)

Stop supporting a "Domestic Terrorism" law, which as just as undefined as Bush's Global War on Terror (fighting terror with more terror). "Domestic terrorists" can be handled under current criminal law when the commit crimes, like arson and terrorist threats. We don't need a loosey-goosey law to shred even more of the Constitution and terrorize law-abiding citizens, do we?

Amend Section 230 to require that platforms make a good faith effort to provide free, fair, and neutral spaces; and

Break up the internet giants.

*****

THAT would constitute a good-faith effort on his part to "listen to" and "respect" the apprximate majority of the country. But ALL of his efforts are bent towards (a) making sure that Trump or anyone like him never wins again and (b) make sure that any form of nationalism or populism is never discussed again. And BTW the establishment GOP likeMcConnell, Graham, and Cheney has the same goals.

If he* doesn't make good-faith effort to listen to, respect, and win the trust of the majority of voters (which he won't) then everything he* said was just blah blah blah lies, defamation, and hypocrisy.

Yanno, like you.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, January 23, 2021 7:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is what I got . . .
This is what I got:

a Republican lawmaker nearly brought a gun onto the House floor, further stoking concerns about Capitol security and whether members of Congress need protection from one another.

The renewed anxiety just two weeks after the deadly Jan. 6 attack was sparked by Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.) when he set off a newly installed metal detector off the House floor with a concealed gun, despite a longtime ban on firearms in the chamber.

The incident followed numerous reports of other Republicans, accustomed to bypassing metal detectors in the Capitol, chafing at the new security measures. Some Democrats are now openly expressing that they don’t feel safe around certain colleagues.

Rep. Kathleen Rice (D-N.Y.) said she never would have envisioned violence breaking out during floor debate when she first started serving in the House in 2015. Now, she says, it’s another story.

“You can’t be afraid that the person that you’re having a little argument with on the floor with C-SPAN watching is going to pull a gun and, like, shoot you,” Rice said. “If you had said that to me six years ago I’d say, ‘Whoever is afraid of that is crazy. That would never happen.’ Now? Sorry. All bets are off. It's a totally different climate. Totally different climate. And we have to recognize that.”

The metal detectors were installed last week after first-term GOP Reps. Lauren Boebert (Colo.) and Madison Cawthorn (N.C.) publicly discussed carrying their weapons around Capitol Hill. Both were also among several House Republicans who engaged in inflammatory rhetoric promoting former President Trump’s false claims of election fraud ahead of the Capitol attack that left five people dead.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/535505-capitol-tensions-running-hig
h-gun-incident-near-house-floor

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Good.

At least these fucks have to start living by the prison rules they forced our kids to live in decades ago.

Goose meet Gander. Fuck off politicians.

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A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.

SECOND

Saturday, January 23, 2021 9:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

It's very simple, REAVERBOT.

If Biden* meant what he* said about unity, he would

Reverse his policy of aiming to make 11 million illegal immigrants citizens (that's probably by about how much he lost the vote)

THAT would constitute a good-faith effort on his part to "listen to" and "respect" the approximate majority of the country.

If he* doesn't make good-faith effort to listen to, respect, and win the trust of the majority of voters (which he won't) then everything he* said was just blah blah blah lies, defamation, and hypocrisy.

Yanno, like you.

Signym, are you sure about what Americans want? I only asked because a Large majority of Americans want undocumented immigrants in US to be granted legal status. Signym, I'm unsure that you know what Americans want. You know what Trumptards want.
https://thehill.com/homenews/457180-large-majority-of-americans-want-u
ndocumented-immigrants-in-us-to-be-granted

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 24, 2021 12:15 AM

Granting legal status to illegals is a mistake which Americans will live to regret, because - like Reagan's "not amnesty" amnesty - it will only encourage more illegal aliens to sneak across the border.

And what about all of the OTHER points I made, SECONDRATE?

Investigate vote irregularities
Stop "domestic terrorism" law and stop referring to Trump supporters as "domestic terrorists"?
Break up internet giants.
Amend Section 230 to require that platforms provide fair, free, and neutral spaces.
End the impeachment charade, which is unfounded and unconstitutional.

Those would go a long, long way to prove that Biden is really listening to and respecting half of America. Because if he doesn't, he was just saying blah-blah-blah. You didn't address them, so I assume that you agree with them. And me.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 24, 2021 1:57 AM

Pelosi doubles down on Nazification

Quote:
“Aid and Comfort” To the Enemy: Speaker Pelosi Ramps Up Attacks On Republican Colleagues Amidst Calls For Expulsions
Speaker Nancy Pelosi ramped up the attacks on members of her own house this week, accusing them of giving “aid and comfort” to those who want to destroy the nation. The comments came after Rep. Lauren Boebert, R-Colo., denied a public accusation by Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn., that she personally took rioters around the capitol for a tour before the attack on January 6th. Boebert pointed out that the “rioters” were her family members and she has never given such tours. Rather than encouraging colleagues to avoid baseless and inflammatory accusations pending review of what occurred on January 6th, Pelosi threw gasoline on the fire and accused her colleagues of giving “aid and comfort” to those who were trying to destroy the Constitution and the country. It is, in my view, another failure of leadership by the Speaker in her duties to the institution as a whole.

MORE AT JonathanTurley.org

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

REAVERFAN

Sunday, January 24, 2021 10:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
^ What else can a Russian troll do at this point?

It's very simple, REAVERBOT.

You're a lying piece of shit and a useless Russian troll cunt. Kill yourself. Your life has no meaning or value to anyone.

REAVERFAN

Sunday, January 24, 2021 10:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Pelosi doubles down on Nazification

Quote:
“Aid and Comfort” To the Enemy: Speaker Pelosi Ramps Up Attacks On Republican Colleagues Amidst Calls For Expulsions
Speaker Nancy Pelosi ramped up the attacks on members of her own house this week, accusing them of giving “aid and comfort” to those who want to destroy the nation. The comments came after Rep. Lauren Boebert, R-Colo., denied a public accusation by Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn., that she personally took rioters around the capitol for a tour before the attack on January 6th. Boebert pointed out that the “rioters” were her family members and she has never given such tours. Rather than encouraging colleagues to avoid baseless and inflammatory accusations pending review of what occurred on January 6th, Pelosi threw gasoline on the fire and accused her colleagues of giving “aid and comfort” to those who were trying to destroy the Constitution and the country. It is, in my view, another failure of leadership by the Speaker in her duties to the institution as a whole.

MORE AT JonathanTurley.org

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

More stupid fake news shit from a dumb, lying Russian troll cunt. Nothing you do or say is of any value to anyone. Commit suicide, now.

The murdering terrorists who attacked our government are all traitors to the US, and deserve a traitor's fate.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 24, 2021 10:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Pelosi doubles down on Nazification

Quote:
“Aid and Comfort” To the Enemy: Speaker Pelosi Ramps Up Attacks On Republican Colleagues Amidst Calls For Expulsions
Speaker Nancy Pelosi ramped up the attacks on members of her own house this week, accusing them of giving “aid and comfort” to those who want to destroy the nation. The comments came after Rep. Lauren Boebert, R-Colo., denied a public accusation by Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn., that she personally took rioters around the capitol for a tour before the attack on January 6th. Boebert pointed out that the “rioters” were her family members and she has never given such tours. Rather than encouraging colleagues to avoid baseless and inflammatory accusations pending review of what occurred on January 6th, Pelosi threw gasoline on the fire and accused her colleagues of giving “aid and comfort” to those who were trying to destroy the Constitution and the country. It is, in my view, another failure of leadership by the Speaker in her duties to the institution as a whole.

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More stupid fake news shit from a dumb, lying Russian troll cunt. Nothing you do or say is of any value to anyone. Commit suicide, now.

Well...

This just got added to the archive.

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REAVERFAN

Sunday, January 24, 2021 10:32 AM

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You really should do the same. You're a worthless piece of shit with nothing to show for your pointless, traitorous life.

You're dead weight, and a drain on society. Relieve us of your existence, and make the world a better place.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 24, 2021 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You really should do the same. You're a worthless piece of shit with nothing to show for your pointless, traitorous life.

You're dead weight, and a drain on society. Relieve us of your existence, and make the world a better place.

This one too now.

Keep pretending that you're one of the good guys though.

You make Nilly look reasonable. You should be proud.

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REAVERFAN

Sunday, January 24, 2021 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You really should do the same. You're a worthless piece of shit with nothing to show for your pointless, traitorous life.

You're dead weight, and a drain on society. Relieve us of your existence, and make the world a better place.

This one too now.

Keep pretending that you're one of the good guys though.

You make Nilly look reasonable. You should be proud.

You're too stupid to exist. It's all for the greater good.

SIGNYM

Monday, January 25, 2021 1:11 PM

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On the Efforts to Silence Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity
Brad Bird
Commentary

Fox News Channel’s political commentators Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity are under attack, with many calling for their removal from the airwaves.

While this is perhaps a predictable extension of cancel culture’s ongoing persecution of those who uphold traditional values, the attack on these men is a particularly offensive attempt at censorship—a line in the sand.

This is because they’re among the few remaining voices in North American journalism with the courage and commitment to report views and facts that challenge the wisdom of progressive thinking. They also defended and respected President Donald J. Trump, who was endlessly and unjustly attacked and maligned by most in the media who betrayed the tradition of fair and balanced reporting.

Carlson and Hannity have been accused, among other things, of spreading “harmful propaganda and downright fiction,” according to one source.

This is rich, considering what the mainstream media has been doing in recent years. We need to understand this clearly: Carlson and Hannity make no pretense of being objective newscasters such as the late Walter Cronkite or the current Lester Holt. They’re commentators who present their opinions in the same way the acclaimed William F. Buckley once did.

The problem is that people who want just the facts can’t get them anymore in the legacy media, such as The New York Times, because it’s so tainted by wokeness, political correctness, and the anti-Trump parade. So they turn to Carlson, Hannity, and others such as Laura Ingraham for relief and common sense.

I don’t know Carlson or Hannity personally, and I’m not in the pay of either of them. I have never spoken or communicated in any way with either of them. I’m an independent Canadian writer, a semi-retired reporter/editor with more than 40 years of experience, including work in war zones and positions in Canada at both large daily (Winnipeg Free Press) and small weekly newspapers. At the age of 62, I don’t fear retribution from those who might wish to silence me for defending my American colleagues.

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Monday, January 25, 2021 1:35 PM

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If ‘Facebook is Private’ Why are They Feeding Private Messages of Its Users Directly to the FBI?

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...when Donald Trump was banned from Twitter and Facebook earlier this month, the left praised the move by big tech. “Facebook is a private company and can do what they want,” the pro-censorship hypocritical crowd chanted ad nauseum... Now ... Facebook [is] now willfully handing over private messages of Trump supporters who talked about the events at the capitol on January 6.

... [Honest media experts know] that large portions of the pro-Trump protests were talked about and organized on Facebook. But was Facebook wiped off the internet like Parler?

No, no it was not. Here’s why.

This week, Facebook began furnishing the Federal Bureau of Investigation with data on Trump supporters who discussed the events at the capitol on their platform — up to and including their private messages. Through this action the social media giant is acting as a de facto intelligence collecting arm of the US government.

In contrast, when Syed Farook, otherwise known as the San Bernardino mass shooter, wouldn’t unlock his iPhone for the feds, Apple refused to create a backdoor for them to access it acting as an actual private company supporting the privacy rights of its customers. But Facebook is more than willing to open up its data mining services for their friends in the federal government — because, as we have stated numerous times, Facebook is not private.

... in 2018 Facebook announced that it partnered with the arm of the government-funded Atlantic Council, known as the Digital Forensic Research Lab that was brought on to help the social media behemoth ...deci[de] on who they censor. [It] is directly funded by multiple state actors — including the United States — which voids any and all claims that Facebook is a wholly “private actor.” It’s funded by arms manufacturers like Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, and Boeing. It is also funded by billionaire oligarchs like the Ukraine’s Victor Pinchuk and Saudi billionaire Bahaa Hariri.

The Atlantic Council wields massive influence over mainstream media too, which is why when this partnership was announced, no one in the mainstream press pointed it out as the Orwellian idea that it is. Instead, headlines such as “US think tank’s tiny lab helps Facebook battle fake social media(Reuters)” and “Facebook partners with Atlantic Council to improve election security (The Hill)” were put out to spin the fact that a NATO propaganda arm is now censoring the information Americans see on Facebook.

... All the while, whenever the censorship acts in their benefit, half of the masses cheer it on and defend it, keeping resistance at a minimum.

... In fact, prior to the state getting involved in the talks of regulation into big tech, information flowed relatively freely with Facebook only removing racist and violent content. Now, however, as they bend to the will of their partners in the federal government, people like myself find ourselves on 30 day bans for saying “censorship leads to tyranny.”

This is why the answer to the government big tech censorship leviathan lies not in regulation but in boycott. The time is now to get off these platforms who spy on you, ban you, sell you to the highest bidder, and who are tearing society apart. ...

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SIGNYM

Monday, January 25, 2021 2:01 PM

We never had any presentation in court where we actually looked at the evidence. Most cases were dismissed for lack of standing ...

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Monday, January 25, 2021 8:30 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Granting legal status to illegals is a mistake which Americans will live to regret, because - like Reagan's "not amnesty" amnesty - it will only encourage more illegal aliens to sneak across the border.

And what about all of the OTHER points I made, SECONDRATE?

Investigate vote irregularities
Stop "domestic terrorism" law and stop referring to Trump supporters as "domestic terrorists"?
Break up internet giants.
Amend Section 230 to require that platforms provide fair, free, and neutral spaces.
End the impeachment charade, which is unfounded and unconstitutional.

Those would go a long, long way to prove that Biden is really listening to and respecting half of America. Because if he doesn't, he was just saying blah-blah-blah. You didn't address them, so I assume that you agree with them. And me.

I will pick one point that you and Trumptards want from Biden: "Investigate vote irregularities".

Signym, you are smart enough not to say what typical Texas Trumptards are saying, but approximately 75% of the 74,222,958 Trumptards want Biden to prove Trump won. Nothing less will satisfy them. With the entire might of the Federal government's power to investigate, they believe Biden can once and for all time prove Trump won. But if Biden won't try, then Trumptards will continue to say Biden is NOT their President. Senator Rand Paul shows in the most sophisticated manner what cruder Trumptards want from Biden:

Even now -- after the inauguration of Joe Biden as the 46th president, after the January 6 riot at the US Capitol, after the myriad lawsuit dismissals -- Rand Paul can't bring himself to say that the 2020 election was not, in fact, stolen.

In an appearance on ABC's "This Week" Sunday, the Kentucky Republican was asked just that question by George Stephanopoulos. And here's what he said:

"Well, what I would suggest is -- what I would suggest is that if we want greater confidence in our elections, and 75% of Republicans agree with me, is that we do need to look at election integrity and we need to see if we can restore confidence in the elections."

Paul didn't stop there, though. After Stephanopoulos said that President Joe Biden won a "legitimate, fair election," the Kentucky senator interrupted to say this:

"I think where you make a mistake in -- hey, George. George. George, where you make a mistake is that people coming from the liberal side like you, you immediately say everything's a lie instead of saying there are two sides to everything.

"Historically what would happen is if said that I thought that there was fraud, you would interview someone else who said there wasn't. But now you insert yourself in the middle and say that the absolute fact is that everything that I'm saying is a lie."

This is a classic appeal to both-sider-ism by Paul. His argument goes like this: I can say anything I want and it's not the job of the media to litigate whether it's true or not. Instead, there should be another guest on the show who says the opposite of what I am saying -- and then the viewers can decide who is right and who is wrong.

Paul is right that journalism, for far too long, worked like this. Person A said something that was wrong -- based on the facts. Person B disputed Person A's claim, pointing to established facts. The moderator said something like "Well, a lot of heated views on this subject. Stay tuned," or something. And that was it.

Which, candidly, did a disservice to viewers and readers. Because while there are absolutely issues -- immigration, abortion, education, health care -- where reasonable people disagree and can cite facts to back up their respective arguments, whether or not the 2020 election was stolen is not one of them. The FACTS make clear it was not stolen. And opinions that suggest otherwise are just that: Opinions. And Biden won't be able to prove Trump w

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, January 25, 2021 8:38 PM

Trump did win.

Nothing can be done about it now. Oh well.

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REAVERFAN

Monday, January 25, 2021 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump did win.

Nothing can be done about it now. Oh well.

Stop lying. Biden won, fair and square. Accept reality.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, January 25, 2021 9:02 PM

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Monday, January 25, 2021 9:30 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump did win.

Nothing can be done about it now. Oh well.

Sure there is. The GOP Senators ought to vote to get rid of the Electoral College before 2024. Then a winner will be obvious next time. The way the system runs now, it is never obvious since a small number of whimsical "Independent" voters in key states are actually deciding who won in the overly complex Electoral College system of deciding the winner:

If Trump picked up the right mix of 42,921 votes in Arizona (10,457), Georgia (11,779), and Wisconsin (20,682), the Electoral College would have been tied at 269 all. The House would have then decided the election. Republicans will hold the majority of state delegations in the new Congress, and they undoubtedly would have chosen Trump. If Trump had also picked up the one electoral vote in Nebraska’s Second Congressional District, which he lost to Biden by 22,091 votes, he would have won the Electoral College outright. Back in 2016, Clinton needed to pick up the right mix of 78,000 votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin to win the Electoral College.

https://www.cfr.org/blog/2020-election-numbers

While the GOP Senators are fixing the Electoral College, they should add the concept of a runoff election into the Constitution. Someday there might be a 3-way split for President. A runoff is how to handle that case. Close elections have happened before and the result was War in 1861 because Lincoln only got 39.8% of the votes. A runoff could have imaginably prevented that war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:48 AM

Nah. If you go to a pure popular vote, California decides who is President for the rest of America's extremely short lifespan.

I won't even argue that the Electoral College is perfect in 2021, and I don't have suggestions on how to make it serve the public better than it currently does. But a pure Popular vote is a terrible idea. Hop in a time machine and ask the Ancient Greeks how that worked out for them.

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:57 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. If you go to a pure popular vote, California decides who is President for the rest of America's extremely short lifespan.

I won't even argue that the Electoral College is perfect in 2021, and I don't have suggestions on how to make it serve the public better than it currently does. But a pure Popular vote is a terrible idea. Hop in a time machine and ask the Ancient Greeks how that worked out for them.

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The Electoral College was meant to assure smaller states that they wouldn't lose representation.

In a larger, more abstract view, it is meant to insure against "the tyranny of the majority".

As a Californian and registered Democrat, I used to get agitated that there were millions more people per Senator than in some other states. But I see the wisdom of requiring policies to be sifted thru several sieves, one is a popular one and the other sieve is state-based.

That way, policies MUST BE acceptable, not only to "the majority" but also to significant minorities.

Surely, there must be policies that are acceptable to nearly everyone. Negotiating and finding those areas of concurrence, that's the art of politics, is it not?

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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 2:35 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

The Electoral College was meant to assure smaller states that they wouldn't lose representation.

In a larger, more abstract view, it is meant to insure against "the tyranny of the majority".

As a Californian and registered Democrat, I used to get agitated that there were millions more people per Senator than in some other states. But I see the wisdom of requiring policies to be sifted thru several sieves, one is a popular one and the other sieve is state-based.

If a design doesn't work as intended, the design is wrong. The Electoral College doesn't work as its designers intended:

The drafters of the Constitution assumed that electors would vote according to their individual discretion, not the dictates of a state or national party. Today, most electors are bound to vote for their party’s candidate.

And even more important, the Constitution says nothing about how the states should allot their electoral votes. The assumption was that each elector’s vote would be counted. But over time, all but two states (Maine and Nebraska) passed laws to give all of their electoral votes to the candidate who wins the state’s popular vote count. Any semblance of elector independence has been fully wiped out.

The Founders also assumed that most elections would ultimately be decided by neither the people nor the electors, but by the House of Representatives. According to the Constitution, if no single candidate wins a majority of the electoral votes, the decision goes to the House, where each state gets one vote. Signym, that is where the smaller states are looked after.

After the unanimous election of George Washington as the nation’s first president, the Founders figured that consequent elections would feature tons of candidates who would divide up the electoral pie into tiny chunks, giving Congress a chance to pick the winner. But as soon as national political parties formed, the number of presidential candidates shrank. Only two U.S. elections have been decided by the House and the last one was in 1824.
https://www.history.com/news/electoral-college-founding-fathers-consti
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. . . That way, policies MUST BE acceptable, not only to "the majority" but also to significant minorities.

Surely, there must be policies that are acceptable to nearly everyone. Negotiating and finding those areas of concurrence, that's the art of politics, is it not?

There are NOT "policies that are acceptable to nearly everyone." I have had a front row seat in many engineering meetings where we are faced with two, three or more alternative chemical processes to make a product. The people in the meeting were absolutely passionate that their preferred solution be built. How do these meetings come to a decision?

Everybody in the meeting knows the company will not be building one plant for each process. Somebody has to lose and not get even a crumb of what they want from the meeting. Building nothing is NOT an alternative because the company has actual goals that must be reached or else everybody in the meeting is fired except for one group, who will build the one chemical plant. In American politics, doing nothing is always first choice, but nobody gets fired on the spot, with no waiting until the next election, because they insisted every detail must be as they want or else they will prevent anything from being built. There is no CEO in American politics that tells the engineers in the meeting that "If you make me decide which process we use, I will be firing those on the losing side. Make a decision, NOW! Or feel my Unholy Wrath."

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1KIKI

Tuesday, January 26, 2021 2:40 AM

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On the Efforts to Silence Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity
Brad Bird
Commentary

Fox News Channel’s political commentators Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity are under attack, with many calling for their removal from the airwaves.

We need to understand this clearly: Carlson and Hannity make no pretense of being objective newscasters such as the late Walter Cronkite or the current Lester Holt. They’re commentators who present their opinions in the same way the acclaimed William F. Buckley once did.

The problem is that people who want just the facts can’t get them anymore in the legacy media, such as The New York Times, because it’s so tainted by wokeness, political correctness, and the anti-Trump parade. So they turn to Carlson, Hannity, and others such as Laura Ingraham for relief and common sense.

I don’t know Carlson or Hannity personally, and I’m not in the pay of either of them. I have never spoken or communicated in any way with either of them. I’m an independent Canadian writer, a semi-retired reporter/editor with more than 40 years of experience, including work in war zones and positions in Canada at both large daily (Winnipeg Free Press) and small weekly newspapers. At the age of 62, I don’t fear retribution from those who might wish to silence me for defending my American colleagues.
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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

That the relentless "narrative" (propaganda) of the m$m itself is the reason WHY people turn to alternate sources is what I've been pointing out.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, January 26, 2021 3:19 AM

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Originally posted by second:
If a design doesn't work as intended, the design is wrong. The Electoral College doesn't work as its designers intended:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your solution to the problem is a pure Popular Vote.

That is a terrible idea.

I'm open to other suggestions.

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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 4:29 AM

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If ‘Facebook is Private’ Why are They Feeding Private Messages of Its Users Directly to the FBI?

... in 2018 Facebook announced that it partnered with the arm of the government-funded Atlantic Council, known as the Digital Forensic Research Lab that was brought on to help the social media behemoth ...deci[de] on who they censor. [It] is directly funded by multiple state actors — including the United States — which voids any and all claims that Facebook is a wholly “private actor.” It’s funded by arms manufacturers like Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, and Boeing. It is also funded by billionaire oligarchs like the Ukraine’s Victor Pinchuk and Saudi billionaire Bahaa Hariri.

The Atlantic Council wields massive influence over mainstream media too, which is why when this partnership was announced, no one in the mainstream press pointed it out as the Orwellian idea that it is. Instead, headlines such as “US think tank’s tiny lab helps Facebook battle fake social media(Reuters)” and “Facebook partners with Atlantic Council to improve election security (The Hill)” were put out to spin the fact that a NATO propaganda arm is now censoring the information Americans see on Facebook.

... as they bend to the will of their partners in the federal government, people like myself find ourselves on 30 day bans for saying “censorship leads to tyranny.”

... All the while, whenever the censorship acts in their benefit, half of the masses cheer it on and defend it, keeping resistance at a minimum.
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Facebook is a social disease you have to make a point of catching. Anyone who depends on Facebook for anything is an idiot.

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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 5:05 AM

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The Electoral College doesn't work as its designers intended ...

The Electoral College doesn't work as you imagine. For numbers of electors, each state gets its allotment of representatives (population-based) plus its number of senators (2 per state).

There are 2 places in the Constitution that pointedly reject proportional representation.

One is the Senate. So, did the Constitution OOPS by creating an entire branch of the legislature - the Senate - where small states had the exact same power and representation as large states? Or instead did it try to account for the problems that strict proportional representation cause: ie, the tyranny of the majority?

Nobody needs to try and play imaginary 5-D chess in history to see that the composition of the Senate was a deliberate act to give small states the power to block the larger states, assuming that there were enough of them with a common interest. And it's obvious that was done INTENTIONALLY, to remove direct proportional representation from part of government.

The other is the Presidential vote that was deliberately withheld from the voter - along with direct proportional representation - thought the Electoral College. Do you imagine the entire structure and process of the Electoral College that did was done by accident? Because I seriously doubt it.

The people who who wrote the Constitution were a diverse but generally savvy group of people. And some things they understood clearly, one of which was that complete rule by a majority would be a tyranny for the minority.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, January 26, 2021 6:38 AM

Direct popular Presidential vote was considered AND REJECTED by the FF three times, as was election by the House (rejected twice) before they finally settled on the Electoral College.

Where the FF erred was not the mechanics of the Electoral College, but in the subsequent rise of political parties. The FF thought political parties were a pox on the body politic. So if you want to fix their error, get rid of political parties.

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SIGNYM

Thursday, January 28, 2021 5:15 AM

Biden* wants to reform the Supreme Court

Wasn't sure if this belongs in Nazification of the DNC or here, so I'm going to xpost this in both.

Making the judiciary hostage to a political party is what you might expect in Venezuela or Iran or Germany 1935, not here.

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Biden starts staffing a commission on Supreme Court reform
He pushed the idea as a candidate during the Amy Coney Barrett confirmation fight. Now, he’s getting it going.

By TYLER PAGER

01/27/2021 12:14 PM EST

The Biden administration is moving forward with the creation of a bipartisan commission to study reforms to the Supreme Court and the federal judiciary.

The commission will be housed under the purview of the White House Counsel’s office and filled out with the behind-the-scenes help of the Biden campaign’s lawyer Bob Bauer, who will co-chair the commission. Its specific mandate is still being decided. But, in a signal that the commission is indeed moving ahead, some members have already been selected, according to multiple people familiar with the discussions.

Among those who will be on the commission are Cristina Rodríguez, a professor at Yale Law School and a former deputy assistant attorney general in the Obama Department of Justice, who will join Bauer as co-chair. Caroline Fredrickson, the former president of the American Constitution Society, and Jack Goldsmith, a Harvard Law School professor and a former assistant attorney general in the Bush Department of Justice, will also serve on the commission, those familiar with discussions said.

Fredrickson has hinted that she is intellectually supportive of ideas like court expansion. In 2019, she said in an interview with Eric Lesh, the executive director of the LGBT Bar Association and Foundation of Greater New York: “I often point out to people who aren't lawyers that the Supreme Court is not defined as ‘nine person body’ in the Constitution, and it has changed size many times.”

Rodríguez’s opinions on court reforms are less clear. Goldsmith’s selection, meanwhile, is likely to be the one to frustrate progressives. A senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Goldsmith did not support Trump and is a friend and co-author of Bauer. But he was a vocal advocate of Brett Kavanaugh’s appointment to the high court — an appointment that sparked Democratic advocacy for expanding the number of Supreme Court seats.

“He will also be an influential figure within the Supreme Court building,” Goldsmith wrote in 2018 about Kavanaugh in a Time article titled, “Brett Kavanaugh Will Right the Course of the Supreme Court.” “He is a brilliant analyst with a deep scholarly and practical knowledge of the law. His legal opinions are unusually accessible. He is a magnanimous soul.”

Bauer, who is not planning to go into the administration full-time, is himself a proponent of term limits for federal judges. He has been helping with the creation of the commission and, according to a person familiar with the deliberations, initially proposed the idea of forming a commission to study the issue of court reform.

“The President remains committed to an expert study of the role and debate over reform of the court and will have more to say in the coming weeks," a White House official said in a statement.

The recruitment of members is still ongoing, but a source familiar with the discussion expects between nine and 15 members total to be appointed to the commission. Rodríguez and Goldsmith did not respond to a request for comment, and Fredrickson declined to comment.

The idea for a commission came together amid the push by Republican senators to confirm Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court in the weeks before the November election. Under intense pressure to consider reforms to the Supreme Court’s composition — including court expansion — Biden performed a classic Washington, D.C., punt. He announced in October that if he was elected,

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Thursday, January 28, 2021 6:33 AM

Pack those courts Joe*. Just do it.

See what happens.

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Thursday, January 28, 2021 7:44 PM

SIGNYM

Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:07 PM

TULSI GABBARD: WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS A POLICE STATE

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:18 PM

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.@JohnBrennan: Biden intel community “are moving in laser-like fashion to try to uncover as much as they can about” the pro-Trump “insurgency” that harbors “religious extremists, authoritarians, fascists, bigots, racists, nativists, even libertarians” pic.twitter.com/SjVXWhPhR8
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) January 20, 2021

Former CIA Director John Brennan ... on MSNBC ... highlighted several groups that are part of this threat.

BRENNAN: Nicolle, I was thinking today that this is the most relaxed I’ve been in the course of many inaugurations I’ve watched, because I’m not responsible for it, but I can tell you that when I was in the government, I had white knuckles because of the nature of the threats...But it’s so much more difficult today because of what we have seen, not just over the last two weeks, but that certainly has riveted our attention, but because of this growth in polarization in the United States and domestic violence and white supremacist groups.

Apparently the "mostly peaceful" BLM/Anifa riots, which caused many deaths and $2 billion in damages, escaped his notice?

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I know looking forward that the members of the Biden team who have been nominated or have been appointed, are now moving in laser-like fashion to try to uncover as much as they can about what looks very similar to insurgency movements that we’ve seen overseas, where they germinate in different parts of a country, and they gain strength, and it brings together an unholy alliance, frequently, of religious extremists, authoritarians, fascists, bigots, racists, nativists, even libertarians.

Serious;y, dood, some guy in a horned hat looks like ISIS??? RU fucking kidding???

And, what's wrong with Libertarians? What's wrong with nativists?
This guy has got a fucking screw loose, aside from which he lied to Congress and to the American people.

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And unfortunately, I think there has been this momentum that has been generated as a result of, unfortunately, the demagogic rhetoric of people that just departed government, but also those who continue in the halls of Congress. And so, I really do think that the law enforcement, Homeland Security, intelligence, and even defense officials are doing everything possible to root out what seems to be a very, very serious and insidious threat to our democracy and our republic.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/01/21/john_brennan_biden_
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The most serious threat to our democracy and our Constitution comes from Brennan, Biden*, Pelosi and their ilk.

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SIGNYM

Saturday, January 30, 2021 3:08 PM

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Would YOU Be Considered a Domestic Terrorist Under This New Bill?
by Robert Wheeler

After 9/11, the entire country collectively lost its mind in the throes of fear. During that time, all civil and Constitutional rights were shredded and replaced with the pages of The USA PATRIOT Act.

Almost 20 years later, the U.S. has again lost its collective mind, this time in fear of a “virus” and it’s “super mutations” and a “riot” at the capitol. A lot of people called this and to the surprise of very few, much like after 9/11, Americans are watching what remains of their civil liberties be replaced with a new bill.
The Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act of 2021

The DTPA is essentially the criminalization of speech, expression, and thought. It takes cancel culture a step further and all but outlaws unpopular opinions. This act will empower intelligence, law enforcement, and even military wings of the American ruling class to crack down on individuals adhering to certain belief systems and ideologies.

According to MI Congressman Fred Upton:

“The attack on the U.S. Capitol earlier this month was the latest example of domestic terrorism, but the threat of domestic terrorism remains very real. We cannot turn a blind eye to it,” Upton said. “The Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act will equip our law enforcement leaders with the tools needed to help keep our homes, families, and communities across the country safe....

The Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act of 2021 would strengthen the federal government’s efforts to prevent, report on, respond to, and investigate acts of domestic terrorism by authorizing offices dedicated to combating this threat; requiring these offices to regularly assess this threat; and providing training and resources to assist state, local, and tribal law enforcement in addressing it.

DTPA would authorize three offices, one each within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Department of Justice (DOJ), and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), to monitor

surveill groups for non-criminal, free-speech actions

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, investigate, and prosecute cases of domestic terrorism.

Whatever that is

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The bill also requires these offices to provide Congress with joint, biannual reports assessing the state of domestic terrorism threats, with a specific focus on white supremacists.

Because BLM, Antifa and other "protected" groups get a free pass on criminal behavior

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Based on the data collected, DTPA requires these offices to focus their resources on the most significant threats.

DTPA also codifies the Domestic Terrorism Executive Committee, which would coordinate with United States Attorneys and other public safety officials to promote information sharing and ensure an effective, responsive, and organized joint effort to combat domestic terrorism. The legislation requires DOJ, FBI, and DHS to provide training and resources to assist state, local, and tribal law enforcement agencies in understanding, detecting, deterring, and investigating acts of domestic terrorism and white supremacy. Finally, DTPA directs DHS, DOJ, FBI, and the Department of Defense to establish an interagency task force to combat white supremacist infiltration of the uniformed services and federal law enforcement.

Those who read the bill aren’t so gung ho to shred the Constitution

Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard has some serious reservations. In a recent interview on Fox News Primetime, Gabbard stated that the bill effectively criminalizes half of the country. (Emphasis ours)

“It’s so dangerous as you guys have been talking about, this is an issue that all Democrats, Republicans, independents, Libertarians should be extremely concerned about, especially because we don’t have to guess about where this goes or how this ends,” Gabbar

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SIGNYM
Saturday, January 30, 2021 3:25 PM

Where I see this going is very much along the same lines as the so-called Patriot Act.

Everything implemented under the so-called Patriot Act, from invading Iraq and Afghanistan, authorizing "enemy combatant" imprisonment, torture, extraordinary rendition, and black sites (GWB) and destabilizing the entire Middle East, killing American citizens without trial, secret drone wars, fostering the growth of ISIS and instituting nationwide surveillance (Obama) was either unconstitutional, unnecessary, or counterproductive ... or all three

We didn't need Bush's and Obama's Global War on Terror (GWOT) ... an endless, borderless, pointless, feckless money- and liberty-sucking execise in futility.

Everything done within the United States as terrorist act ... killing people, destroying buildings etc... is ALREADY covered by both national and international criminal law.

Just as there was no reason for people to completely lose their shit over Islamic Terrorism ... and in the process shred their own constitutional protections and make the international situation infinitely worse ... there is NO REASON to create a special category of Domestic Terrorist.

Are you making bombs? Are you conspiring to shoot people en masse? Disrupt essential services, destroy buldings, attack the police or Congress, make terroristic threats??

Guess what: IT'S ALREADY ILLEGAL.

The limits of free speech have been tested over and over. The lines of what is allowed and what isn't are already pretty clear, as are the lines defining things like assault, murder, rioting etc.

We don't need a special bill purpose-designed to infringe on Americans' constitutional rights, and to make NSA's current illegal surveillance and information-sharing legal.

But the DNC is stampeding people in that direction. Too bad for the DNC, half of America is already against it. (Which is why the DNC is working so hard to cement its grip on political power by suppressing resistance and importing new voters.)

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 3:40 PM

Oh, yeah ..

Cue "Russian troll cunt, go kill yourself" in 3... 2... 1...

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 7:29 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Where I see this going is very much along the same lines as the so-called Patriot Act.

Everything implemented under the so-called Patriot Act, from invading Iraq and Afghanistan, authorizing "enemy combatant" imprisonment, torture, extraordinary rendition, and black sites (GWB) and destabilizing the entire Middle East, killing American citizens without trial, secret drone wars, fostering the growth of ISIS and instituting nationwide surveillance (Obama) was either unconstitutional, unnecessary, or counterproductive ... or all three

We didn't need Bush's and Obama's Global War on Terror (GWOT) ... an endless, borderless, pointless, feckless money- and liberty-sucking execise in futility.

Everything done within the United States as terrorist act ... killing people, destroying buildings etc... is ALREADY covered by both national and international criminal law.

Just as there was no reason for people to completely lose their shit over Islamic Terrorism ... and in the process shred their own constitutional protections and make the international situation infinitely worse ... there is NO REASON to create a special category of Domestic Terrorist.

Are you making bombs? Are you conspiring to shoot people en masse? Disrupt essential services, destroy buldings, attack the police or Congress, make terroristic threats??

Guess what: IT'S ALREADY ILLEGAL.

The limits of free speech have been tested over and over. The lines of what is allowed and what isn't are already pretty clear, as are the lines defining things like assault, murder, rioting etc.

We don't need a special bill purpose-designed to infringe on Americans' constitutional rights, and to make NSA's current illegal surveillance and information-sharing legal.

But the DNC is stampeding people in that direction. Too bad for the DNC, half of America is already against it. (Which is why the DNC is working so hard to cement its grip on political power by suppressing resistance and importing new voters.)

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There's just as much reason to put Domestic in front of Terrorist as their is Hate in front of Crime.

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 10:53 PM

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SIGNYM:
Where I see this going is very much along the same lines as the so-called Patriot Act.

Everything implemented under the so-called Patriot Act, from invading Iraq and Afghanistan, authorizing "enemy combatant" imprisonment, torture, extraordinary rendition, and black sites (GWB) and destabilizing the entire Middle East, killing American citizens without trial, secret drone wars, fostering the growth of ISIS and instituting nationwide surveillance (Obama) was either unconstitutional, unnecessary, or counterproductive ... or all three

We didn't need Bush's and Obama's Global War on Terror (GWOT) ... an endless, borderless, pointless, feckless money- and liberty-sucking execise in futility.

Everything done within the United States as terrorist act ... killing people, destroying buildings etc... is ALREADY covered by both national and international criminal law.

Just as there was no reason for people to completely lose their shit over Islamic Terrorism ... and in the process shred their own constitutional protections and make the international situation infinitely worse ... there is NO REASON to create a special category of Domestic Terrorist.

Are you making bombs? Are you conspiring to shoot people en masse? Disrupt essential services, destroy buldings, attack the police or Congress, make terroristic threats??

Guess what: IT'S ALREADY ILLEGAL.

The limits of free speech have been tested over and over. The lines of what is allowed and what isn't are already pretty clear, as are the lines defining things like assault, murder, rioting etc.

We don't need a special bill purpose-designed to infringe on Americans' constitutional rights, and to make NSA's current illegal surveillance and information-sharing legal.

But the DNC is stampeding people in that direction. Too bad for the DNC, half of America is already against it. (Which is why the DNC is working so hard to cement its grip on political power by suppressing resistance and importing new voters.)

SIX: There's just as much reason to put Domestic in front of Terrorist as their is Hate in front of Crime.
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I agree. To me, the category "hate crime" is pretty meaningless. Does it make a difference if you killed someone because he was Hispanic, or because you were defending your drug turf, or because he and your wife were messing around?

Either way, the victim is dead.

I have the same difficulty with "degrees" of murder. Trying to suss the "why" of a crime seems a fool's errand. Many times, people do things for multiple reasons and quite often they don't know the real reason themselves. We see total lack of self-awareness here, on this board, every day; why should we expect any better from someone who has committed a major crime? There are only a few distinctions I would make about causing someone's death: was it by accident, on purpose, self-defense, or neglect? And I would probably give some consideration to HOW LONG it took: killing someone by shooting them is an instantaneous act, but beating them to death provides ample opportunity to stop.

And the best way to determine whether someone will commit another crime is to simply LOOK AT THEIR CRIMINAL RECORD. Psychologists can't predict any better than behavior in prison whether someone will re-offend, and BOTH of those are much worse than simply looking at someone's past criminal record at deciding whether someone should be given parole. Given that psychologists can't determine a convicted criminal's motives and predict future behavior, why would we imagine that a DA would do any better?

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 11:12 PM

Just a reminder: Brennan believes that the Biden* administration has a laser focus on nativists, libertarians, and bigots. The first two are genuine political stances, and the third - while distasteful- is protected free speech.

Look at WISHY: She is the worst race and sex bigot here. SHE has a laser focus on race and sex, and yet, despite the fact that she has posted that she would genocide most of the world (down to the last 100) ... posts which COULD be used to justify putting her under surveillance and interpreting any future actions on her part as a "domestic terrorist" ... she is still allowed to be as bigoted as she wants to be because it's free speech.

And then there is REAVERBOT who has threatened other posters here ("You will be dealt with"). IT could be interpreted as a terrorist threat, and past posts could be used against it to treat it as a "domestic terrorist" and yet that is STILL free speech.

Even SECOND, who has advocated that people get guns and shoot their bosses. Distasteful, yes, and a history of those kinds of posts could justify treating HIM as domestic terrorist, if anyone where so inclined. Still, free speech.

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 11:29 PM

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And reported by an occupied press

The hallmark of any dictator is that they're afraid of their own people
Nazification of the Democrap Party.

hmmmm.

Nazis copied everything the Democraps did, Democraps were their template and guiding justification regarding Indians/slaves/Jews, and all other aspects.

So now Democraps are returning to their roots. Almost circular logic.

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SIGNYM
Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:18 AM

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention ... Biden* is supposedy coming after "religious extremists".

What does that mean?? If you're a fundamentalist and believe in a 6000-year-old earth does that make you an "extremist"?

Hey, I think religions are hogwash, but our Constitution guarantees "freedom of religion". You can't surveil and jail someone for "bad thought" or organizing with others who have similar "bad thoughts" ... something in the Constitution about freedom of association.

You can't surveil or jail anyone who speaks or posts ridiculous ideas. Something in the Constitution about freedom of speech.

It's only when these activities become CRIMINAL matters does the law step in. (You can't claim that freedom of religion gives you the right to sacrifice humans, for example.)

This whole "domestic terrorism" thing looks less and less Constitutional the more i hear about it.

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Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:24 AM

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Turley,

There is a free speech debate at Drake University over hateful and vulgar tweets from Associate English Professor Beth Younger, who called for Republicans “to suffer.” We have seen increasing vulgar attacks from academics, including such high-profile figures as Laurence Tribe in the last few years. Notably, Twitter did not suspend Younger’s account for calling for harm to all Republicans. I do not believe that she should be barred from social media or fired from Drake as a matter of free speech. Even with professors who have justified the murder of conservatives or killing police are protected in such hateful expressions.

The solution to such hate speech is more (and better) speech. I would rather we denounce such speech than censor it
MORE AT https://jonathanturley.org/2021/01/30/republicans-need-to-suffer-drake
-professor-triggers-free-speech-debate-with-hateful-tweets-against-men-and-conservatives/

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Sunday, January 31, 2021 3:08 AM

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John Brennan: And so, I really do think that the law enforcement, Homeland Security, intelligence, and even defense officials are doing everything possible to root out what seems to be a very, very serious and insidious threat to our democracy and our republic.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/01/21/john_brennan_biden_
admin_has_laser-like_focus_on_insurgency_movements_of_bigots_racists_libertarians.html

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Would YOU Be Considered a Domestic Terrorist Under This New Bill?
by Robert Wheeler
After 9/11, the entire country collectively lost its mind in the throes of fear. During that time, all civil and Constitutional rights were shredded and replaced with the pages of The USA PATRIOT Act.
Almost 20 years later ... Americans are watching what remains of their civil liberties be replaced with a new bill.
The Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act of 2021 ... authorizing ... three offices, one each within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Department of Justice (DOJ), and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), to monitor (Signy: surveill groups for non-criminal, free-speech actions), investigate, and prosecute cases of domestic terrorism.

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Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard has some serious reservations.
In a recent interview on Fox News Primetime, Gabbard stated that the bill effectively criminalizes half of the country.
“It’s so dangerous as you guys have been talking about, this is an issue that all Democrats, Republicans, independents, Libertarians should be extremely concerned about, especially because we don’t have to guess about where this goes or how this ends ... When you have people like former CIA Director John Brennan openly talking about how he’s spoken with or heard from appointees and nominees in the Biden administration who are already starting to look across our country for these types of movements similar to the insurgencies they’ve seen overseas, that in his words, he says make up this unholy alliance of religious extremists, racists, bigots, he lists a few others and at the end, even libertarians."

Thanks! Biden*.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, January 31, 2021 3:54 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention ... Biden* is supposedy coming after "religious extremists".

What does that mean?? If you're a fundamentalist and believe in a 6000-year-old earth does that make you an "extremist"?

Hey, I think religions are hogwash, but our Constitution guarantees "freedom of religion". You can't surveil and jail someone for "bad thought" or organizing with others who have similar "bad thoughts" ... something in the Constitution about freedom of association.

You can't surveil or jail anyone who speaks or posts ridiculous ideas. Something in the Constitution about freedom of speech.

It's only when these activities become CRIMINAL matters does the law step in. (You can't claim that freedom of religion gives you the right to sacrifice humans, for example.)

This whole "domestic terrorism" thing looks less and less Constitutional the more i hear about it.

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As long as your religion is Muslim, the Democrats are fine with it.

Everybody else is fucked.

Well... Tom Cruise will probably be okay.

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Monday, February 1, 2021 5:38 AM

Some people just have way with words ...

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It’s been a busy first week for the 46th President of the United States, there are the 20,000 troops occupying the capital city to organise, as well as the totally UNPRECEDENTED SHOW-TRIAL OF HIS IMMEDIATE PREDECESSOR.

You know, usual democracy type stuff.

But wait! There's more!

Buried, apparently in his Executives Orders avalanche is this:

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1. Vaccination Passports
International Certificates of Vaccination or Prophylaxis. Consistent with applicable law, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of HHS, and the Secretary of Homeland Security (including through the Administrator of the TSA), in coordination with any relevant international organizations, shall assess the feasibility of linking COVID-19 vaccination to International Certificates of Vaccination or Prophylaxis (ICVP) and producing electronic versions of ICVPs.

And there's his ...

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2. Cabinet Appointments
... Under Secretary of State is Victoria Nuland, a neocon warmonger ... Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, is also an inveterate US Imperialist, arguing for every US military intervention since the 1990s, and criticisng Trump’s decision to withdraw from Syria ... Defence Secretary is the first African-American ever appointed to this role, but Former General Lloyd Austin ... who retired from the military in 2016 to join the board of Raytheon Technologies

Not to forget MOAR WAR ...

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3. Iraq ...
... suddenly the situation was too unstable for the US to leave (Iraq), and Biden is being forced to “review” Trump’s planned withdrawal.
The Iraqi parliament has made it clear it wants the US to take its military off their soil, so any American forces on Iraqi land are technically there illegally in contravention of international law. But that never bothered them before.

4. ... Afghanistan ...

Turns out the US can’t withdraw from Afghanistan either. Last February Trump signed a deal with the Taliban that all US personnel would leave Afghanistan by May 2021. Joe Biden has already committed to “reviewing” this deal.

5. ... and Syria ...

Far from simply continuing the on-going wars, there are already signs Biden’s “diverse” team will look to escalate, or even start, other conflicts. Syria was another theatre of war from which Donald Trump wanted to extricate the United States, unilaterally ordering all US troops from the country in late 2019. We now know the Pentagon ignored those orders. They lied to the President, telling Trump they had followed his orders ... but not withdrawing a single man.

There will be no need for any such duplicity now Biden is in the Oval Office, he was a vocal critic of the decision to withdraw, claiming it gave ISIS a “new lease of life”. Indeed, within two days of his being sworn in a column of American military vehicles was seen entering Syria from Iraq.

... and more police, and more (baseless) mass surveillance due to

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6. Domestic Terrorism

'Nuff said. Keep your news tuned to official sources only, and your thoughts accepting and pure!

https://off-guardian.org/2021/01/27/6-warning-signs-from-bidens-first-
week-in-office/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 1, 2021 8:15 PM

It should be noted that the "diversity" picks of the Biden* cabinet have nothing to do with the sake of diversity at all.

It's about installing people who are high up on the protected class scale, so when they do things their decisions are beyond reproach.

We've already seen protected class Janet Yellen, former chair of the Federal Reserve, take advantage of this not even a week into the Biden* Presidency.

Legally, due to her previous title, she can't even "investigate" the bullshit happening in the DOW for another year, but that's not going to stop her. When she was asked about this during a press conference, she just completely ignored the question.

Watch protected class Lloyd Austin with the assistance of protected class Victoria Nuland go to war with anybody on the planet they feel like at any time without anybody even being able to question them because "how dare you!"

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