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Hey, whatever happened to the riots? ... And foreign policy discussion

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 7:45 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I don't think it's our responsibility to fight everyone, everywhere. And it's not in our best interest, even in the long run. It's bad for us to be spending blood and money on foreign soil when we are neglecting our own nation.

WISHY: It's a good damn thing you ain't in charge, kemosabe.

Says the person who would genocide most of the world.


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WISHY You do realize that I don't read 99% of the shit you post, right?
Too bad. You might learn something

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WISHY: I've said that a dozen times now. You just wasted an hour talking to yourself.
Well, maybe somebody else will learn something, even if you don't.

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WISHY: We all know your agenda is to get America to give up and roll over and play dead.
Whatever you post, I'm against. That's for life, baby

Traitors* get haters

* Yanno, calling someone a "traitor" is one of those phrases that is AUTOMATICALLY accepted as defamation. Better watch who you defame, hon.

And what I want is for Americans to focus ON AMERICA FIRST. What's wrong with that? why are we spending lives and blood on foreign soil when we have crying unmet needs at home?

Don't you love America?

Also, we're not exactly spreading democracy. More like tyranny and chaos.*

* Was that short enough for you? If you want details, better go back and read my other post with three very specific examples.

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Eat shit, Russian troll.* It's a good thing you're stupid, otherwise you might actually be dangerous, enemy.



Tsk tsk

Reduced to name-calling. As usual.

POINTS!

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 11:48 AM

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SignyM:

So you blame the WH. Good. That is where the blame belongs. Also, don't forget Osama's... I mean, Obama's... secret drone wars, "color revolutions" and "regime change" operations in Ukraine, Syria, Libya, and Egypt (which failed).

So, why izzit that the ONLY President NOT to start another war was attempted to be driven from office by bogus charges of "collusion"? And that was with the help of the FBI, CIA, MI6, State Department, establishment Congressional Republicans as well as Democrats, and a complicit media and corporate social media?

Why were his attempts to withdraw troops constantly blocked?

SECOND: The last question is easy to answer. The Senators and Representatives from all 50 states

SO, DEMOCRATS TOO, EH?
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want their state to continue receiving Defense Dept. money. But if there are no or few wars, the money slows until it is being spent at the same low levels as France or Japan or China. Although they love the money from war, few of these wimpy Congressmen want to take responsibility for deciding when or where to go to war. That is why there have been no declarations of war since 1942.

As for bogus charges of "collusion", there were not any, except in Trump's fat dumb head. What was being investigated was Russian interference in elections.

LIAR. WHAT WAS BEING INVESTIGATED WAS NOT TECHNICALLY CALLED "COLLUSION", IT WAS CALLED "COORDINATION AND COOPERATION" BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA.
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AND BLAH BLAH BAH ...
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American policy is made by people
WHICH PEOPLE?
CIA? PRESIDENT? THINK TANKS? FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS?

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:06 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SignyM:

So you blame the WH. Good. That is where the blame belongs. Also, don't forget Osama's... I mean, Obama's... secret drone wars, "color revolutions" and "regime change" operations in Ukraine, Syria, Libya, and Egypt (which failed).

So, why izzit that the ONLY President NOT to start another war was attempted to be driven from office by bogus charges of "collusion"? And that was with the help of the FBI, CIA, MI6, State Department, establishment Congressional Republicans as well as Democrats, and a complicit media and corporate social media?

Why were his attempts to withdraw troops constantly blocked?

SECOND: The last question is easy to answer. The Senators and Representatives from all 50 states

SO, DEMOCRATS TOO, EH?
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want their state to continue receiving Defense Dept. money. But if there are no or few wars, the money slows until it is being spent at the same low levels as France or Japan or China. Although they love the money from war, few of these wimpy Congressmen want to take responsibility for deciding when or where to go to war. That is why there have been no declarations of war since 1942.

As for bogus charges of "collusion", there were not any, except in Trump's fat dumb head. What was being investigated was Russian interference in elections.

LIAR. WHAT WAS BEING INVESTIGATED WAS NOT TECHNICALLY CALLED "COLLUSION", IT WAS CALLED "COORDINATION AND COOPERATION" BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA.
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AND BLAH BLAH BAH ...
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American policy is made by people
WHICH PEOPLE?
CIA? PRESIDENT? THINK TANKS? FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS?

You are out of your mind, Signym.

1) Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller to do a “full and thorough investigation of the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election”.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408/Rosenstein-letter-a
ppointing-Mueller-special.pdf


2) Mueller found that the Russian government did interfere: “The Internet Research Agency (IRA) carried out the earliest Russian interference operations identified by the investigation—a social media campaign designed to provoke and amplify political and social discord in the United States. The IRA was based in St. Petersburg. Russia, and received funding from Russian oligarch Yevgeniy Prigozhin and companies he controlled. Prigozhin is widely reported to have ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.”

“At the same time that the IRA operation began to focus on supporting candidate Trump in early 2016. the Russian government employed a second form of interference: cyber intrusions (hacking) and releases of hacked materials damaging to the Clinton Campaign. The Russian intelligence service known as the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Army (GRU) carried out these operations.”
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

3) Mueller’s Volume 2 said: “Our obstruction-of-justice inquiry focused on a series of actions by the President that related to the Russian-interference investigations, including the President’s conduct towards the law enforcement officials overseeing the investigations and the witnesses to relevant events.”

The conclusion was Trump is a Crook.

4) Trump won’t let Congress see the full Mueller Report and has taken his case to the Supreme Court.

“A little more than a year ago, special counsel Robert Mueller released his report concerning Russian interference in the 2016 election and President Donald Trump’s efforts to obstruct that investigation. Remarkably, Congress still has not seen the entire, unredacted report. The Department of Justice withheld portions of the report that concerned grand jury matters, and it has fought the release of those excerpts to Congress. Now, the Supreme Court will decide whet

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 9:37 PM

Oh... and about foreign policy.

On January 20th, we go back to our regularly scheduled invading and bombing brown people half a world away for oil.

Trump cost a lot of powerful defense contractors and their shareholders a lot of money these last four years and they need to get back into the black.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Trump cost a lot of powerful defense contractors and their shareholders a lot of money these last four years and they need to get back into the black.

That is false. The Defense budget increased every year that Trump was President:

The Senate will take a key test vote on Friday on whether to override President Trump's veto of a mammoth defense bill. The veto override effort overcame an initial procedural hurdle on Wednesday night in an 80-12 vote. The Senate floor action comes after the House voted to override Trump on Monday in an 322-87 vote.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/532173-key-test-vote-on-trump-veto-
override-set-for-friday


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 1, 2021 12:25 AM

SECOND: If Mueller was NOT investigating "collusion" then why did he address it in his report?

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Friday, January 1, 2021 2:17 AM

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SECOND: The last question is easy to answer. The Senators and Representatives from all 50 states ...

SIGNY: SO, DEMOCRATS TOO, EH?

SECOND:... want their state to continue receiving Defense Dept. money. But if there are no or few wars, the money slows until it is being spent at the same low levels as France or Japan or China. Although they love the money from war, few of these wimpy Congressmen want to take responsibility for deciding when or where to go to war. That is why there have been no declarations of war since 1942.... policy is made by people

SIGNY:WHICH PEOPLE?
CIA? PRESIDENT? THINK TANKS? FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS?




So, I see you never got around to answering the second question and decided to trail this red herring (pun intended) about "collusion" across the discussion.

Care to take a stab at answering the question: WHO makes American foreign policy?

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 7:40 AM



Apparently the riots are still going on albeit in a more sporadic, areally-limited way. And antifa is being identified as the culprit by both the mayor and the police chief.

I scanned though enough news from enough sources - mostly local - to think that that's a fair representation.

Here's one example:

Wheeler calls out ‘antifa anarchists’ following NYE riot
https://www.koin.com/local/multnomah-county/wheeler-ppb-chief-to-hold-
virtual-press-conference
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Wednesday, January 6, 2021 10:20 AM

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And antifa is being identified as the culprit by both the mayor and the police chief.




and Only funded during the election term?

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Thursday, November 24, 2022 11:22 PM

Vandal who threw Molotov cocktail into NYPD van during BLM protests is sentenced to prison

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11432179/Vandal-threw-Molotov
-cocktail-NYPD-van-BLM-protests-sentenced-prison.html


BLM demonstration organiser charged with fraud

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/blm-demonstration-organis
er-charged-with-fraud/video/acf7f6621bc09cb9968625fc1e358907

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