Congress Still Jacking Off Over Unemployment
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Biden released a joint ad for Democratic Senate candidates Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock in the Georgia runoff election, arguing that he needs a Senate majority to pass a better COVID-19 relief package after the crappy one that is struggling to move through Congress.
“Georgia, I know things are tough right now. But I want you to know, help is on the way,” Biden says in the 60-second direct-to-camera ad.
“My administration is preparing to beat COVID-19 and get economic relief to the American people," said Biden, who added that he was prepared to sign another, and more generous, relief package on his first day in office.
"Let me be clear, I need Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff in the United States Senate to get this done,” Biden said.
Congress is nearing a $900 billion COVID-19 relief bill, but lawmakers hope it will be signed into law by President Trump as part of a larger spending package. Congress hopes to complete work on the bill and send it to Trump before Christmas.
Biden has supported the package, but described it as a downpayment, saying Congress should take additional steps.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/530629-biden-cuts-ad-for-georgia
-senate-candidates
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The Senate Majority Leader said that the lack of stimulus payments has become a big issue in the runoffs:
“Kelly and David are getting hammered” on the issue, he said, according to a source who heard his remarks, a reference to incumbent GOP Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, who are both facing off against Democratic challengers.
True, McConnell didn’t explicitly say that this was the direct cause of the sudden new movement toward a deal. But, as Politico’s Jake Sherman reported, McConnell “overtly linked” the emerging agreement to the political needs of Georgia’s two senators.
The likelihood that this played a key role in moving Republicans also underscores how unlikely they are to help the economy and the country next year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/12/16/mitch-mcconnell-giv
es-away-game-kelly-david-are-getting-hammered/
Republicans appear willing to make a deal because they fear that complete stonewalling will hurt them in the Georgia Senate runoffs. But they are determined to keep the deal under a trillion dollars, hence the reported $900 billion price tag.
That trillion-dollar cap, however, makes no sense. The amount we spend on emergency relief should be determined by how much aid is needed, not by the sense that $1 trillion is a scary number.
For affordability isn’t a real issue right now. The U.S. government borrowed more than $3 trillion in the 2020 fiscal year; investors were happy to lend it that money, at remarkably low interest rates. In fact, the real interest rate on U.S. debt — the rate adjusted for inflation — has lately been consistently negative, which means that the additional debt won’t even create a major future burden.
And even economists who worry about deficits normally agree that it’s appropriate to run big deficits in the face of national emergencies. If a pandemic that is still keeping around 10 million workers unemployed isn’t an emergency, I don’t know what is.
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Georgia Senators “Kelly and David” have indeed been getting hammered on this issue. Their Democratic opponents, Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff, have run numerous ads hitting Republicans over the failure to pass more economic assistance.
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GOP Senators are holding a relief deal hostage in order to kneecap the Fed—and the Biden administration—in a crisis.
Republicans, led by Sen. Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, have launched a last-minute bid to permanently shut down some of the credit facilities that the central bank launched this spring in response to the pandemic—specifically, ones that allowed it to buy corporate bonds, and lend to state and local governments as well as midsized companies. Democrats—including President-elect Joe Biden’s team— have cried foul, accusing the GOP of attempting to sabotage the incoming administration with a rash demand that would permanently change the Fed’s crisis-response powers.
Republicans are trying to take away the Fed’s fire extinguisher just as Biden is getting ready to take office, which will make it harder to respond effectively if the economy bursts into flames again (that probably won’t happen, but you never know!).
Republicans are trying to permanently revoke crisis-fighting tools that the Fed had at its disposal before the CARES Act was ever enacted. Republicans want to cut off that ability, and they’ve introduced sweeping language to do so. It would be a major, and extremely hasty, revision of the emergency lending laws Congress painstakingly hashed out when it negotiated the Dodd-Frank Act after the Great Recession. To rewrite the law like that on the fly seems pretty disturbing.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201219031724/https://slate.com/business/
2020/12/congress-relief-bill-federal-reserve-toomey.html
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GOP senator blocks bill for $1,200 stimulus checks for second time on Friday — this time when it was offered by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Sanders said it was “comical that suddenly our Republican friends once again discover that we have a deficit.”
Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) aligned himself with Sanders on Friday. “The quickest way to get money into the pockets of the American people is to send some of their tax dollars right back where they came from. So let's step up the plate. ... I support Senator Sanders's request fully and hope the Senate will consent,” Schumer said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530913-gop-senator-blocks-bill-for
-12k-stimulus-checks-for-second-time
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Originally posted by second:
GOP senator blocks bill for $1,200 stimulus checks for second time on Friday — this time when it was offered by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Sanders said it was “comical that suddenly our Republican friends once again discover that we have a deficit.”
Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) aligned himself with Sanders on Friday. “The quickest way to get money into the pockets of the American people is to send some of their tax dollars right back where they came from. So let's step up the plate. ... I support Senator Sanders's request fully and hope the Senate will consent,” Schumer said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530913-gop-senator-blocks-bill-for
-12k-stimulus-checks-for-second-time
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Speaking of tax dollars...
If they ever do get around to sending out a 2nd round of stimulus checks, they should immediately be automatically applied to anyone's 2020 taxes due in April if they were stupid enough to defer their taxes.
P.S. Trump didn't cause that problem. Any job I've ever worked allows you to defer all of your taxes simply by claiming a bunch of allowances on your W4 form, while unemployment (at least in the 3 states I've lived in) just straight up allows you to not put any unemployment money toward your taxes (though they do warn you not to do so).
P.P.S. I'm preempting any know it alls like Cap'n who are going to say that putting a false number of dependents on your W4 is illegal. (Because we've argued about this before, and he's stupid and will have no doubt forgotten that I won that argument).
It's not illegal. But not paying your taxes in full and on time will lead to fines and penalties and can snowball into a much worse situation. This is ill-advised for most people since they suck with money.
All Trump did was let everyone know en-masse that this was an option. This was knowledge that was better left unknown for the majority.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:Why not have the entire stimulus check automatically applied to anyone's 2020 and 2021 and 2022 and 2023, etc. taxes? That would be the simplest way. No envelopes, postage, and paper checks. No direct deposit into bank accounts. No covid-19 relief. Nothing except the warm and fuzzy feeling the needy get knowing that their taxes are prepaid before the income is earned.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Speaking of tax dollars...
If they ever do get around to sending out a 2nd round of stimulus checks, they should immediately be automatically applied to anyone's 2020 taxes due in April if they were stupid enough to defer their taxes.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Why not have the entire stimulus check automatically applied to anyone's 2020 and 2021 and 2022 and 2023, etc. taxes? That would be the simplest way. No envelopes, postage, and paper checks. No direct deposit into bank accounts. No covid-19 relief. Nothing except the warm and fuzzy feeling the needy get knowing that their taxes are prepaid before the income is earned.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Speaking of tax dollars...
If they ever do get around to sending out a 2nd round of stimulus checks, they should immediately be automatically applied to anyone's 2020 taxes due in April if they were stupid enough to defer their taxes.
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Because that's just stupid, stupid.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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And I don't want to hear any fucking whining by people who bought a bunch of shit they didn't need this year without paying any taxes on it when that time comes to pay.
Marcos is already preemptively (and falsely) blaming that one on Trump.
You're already suggesting that people who were intelligent enough to pay their taxes should be penalized and the government should forgive those taxes to people who didn't pay them next year, all the while (truthfully) saying that all of the extra money given for unemployment raised quite a few working people out of poverty.
The reason why your argument doesn't hold water is that these people who were in poverty paid their taxes before they were out of poverty and had no reason not to pay their taxes this year other than the fact that Trump and the Media told them that they had the option not to (an option which was always an option available to them).
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:6ix, you are boss Ebenezer Scrooge telling his impoverished employee Bob Chitchat that he doesn't need a raise, what he really needs is to better manage his money.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And I don't want to hear any fucking whining by people who bought a bunch of shit they didn't need this year without paying any taxes on it when that time comes to pay.
Marcos is already preemptively (and falsely) blaming that one on Trump.
You're already suggesting that people who were intelligent enough to pay their taxes should be penalized and the government should forgive those taxes to people who didn't pay them next year, all the while (truthfully) saying that all of the extra money given for unemployment raised quite a few working people out of poverty.
The reason why your argument doesn't hold water is that these people who were in poverty paid their taxes before they were out of poverty and had no reason not to pay their taxes this year other than the fact that Trump and the Media told them that they had the option not to (an option which was always an option available to them).
Mitch McConnell is playing Scrooge compared to bosses in other countries: ‘We are the laughingstock of the world’ — The $600 stimulus check isn’t going over very well.
Compare Stimulus Relief Fund In Other Countries:
Australia: $1,993 a month
Canada: $1,433 a month
Denmark: Up to $3,288 a month
France: Up to $7,575 a month
Germany: Up to $7,326.78 a month
Ireland: Up to $1,793.44 a month
UK: Up to $3,084 a month
U.S.: $l,200 to last for 32 weeks
$600 dollars isn’t even enough for most Americans to pay half their mortgage, as the average is roughly $1300 per month.
More at https://www.marketwatch.com/story/we-are-the-shame-and-laughingstock-o
f-the-world-the-600-stimulus-check-isnt-going-over-very-well-11608520868
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Originally posted by second:
6ix, you are boss Ebenezer Scrooge
Wrong. I am no boss and I have no boss.
These people had more income in 2020 than they did before 2020 before they were brought temporarily out of poverty because of the CARES Act.
There was no reason for them to not pay their taxes, and next year when they can't pay those taxes because they bought shit they didn't need, it will be nobody's fault but their own.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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And BTW... where do you think this magic money comes from, dipshit?
I want you to explain it in detail where the money comes from.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
P.P.S. I'm preempting any know it alls like Cap'n who are going to say that putting a false number of dependents on your W4 is illegal. (Because we've argued about this before, and he's stupid and will have no doubt forgotten that I won that argument).
It's not illegal. But not paying your taxes in full and on time will lead to fines and penalties and can snowball into a much worse situation. This is ill-advised for most people since they suck with money.
Actually, I think I just gave up because you - like FIFI lately - are just too stupid or too stubborn or too determined to be a contrary a-hole to waste much time on.
In this case, I say go for it 6ForBrains - roll the dice:
https://www.communitytax.com/resource-center/tax-scams/false-deduction
s/
"Penalties for Claiming False Dependents
When you knowingly claim a false dependent on your taxes, you risk sanctions and a potential audit from the IRS. Claiming false deductions like dependents is considered tax evasion and is, therefore, a felony with potentially severe criminal penalties. However, the IRS will only consider alleging a malicious dependent fraud if the taxpayer demonstrated willfulness—meaning that you have to be aware of your crime to be charged. Without the intention, the offense is considered negligence. There are still penalties for neglect; it’s your responsibility to know the rules, but it’s not a crime.
Dependents can make you eligible for other forms of tax breaks in addition to the initial reduction. You can receive tax credits for education expenses, medical bills, and childcare—this is why claiming false deductions for a dependent is so prevalent. If the IRS accuses you of claiming a false dependent, you will be required to pay the full amount you avoided by doing so. In addition to the total amount, you will be required to pay a .5% late fee for the unpaid amount each month that had passed since the tax was due."
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Quote:Your local bank creates money the same way mine does: I deposit a million, my bank loans out a million. Suddenly there is two million where previously there was only one. The same thing happens when the Federal government borrows a trillion dollars by issuing bonds. When the government sends out a trillion dollars in the form of $600 checks, suddenly there is two trillion in money. The trillion in bonds still exist and the trillion in checks with new money is created. It is not a mysterious process. It is a great way for people like me to own the real and very tangible world of land, buildings, factories and machines by giving people like you phony-baloney imaginary money. The joke is on you when I (and the other top 1%) end up owning the Americans who will be receiving these $600 checks. (6ix, you can keep your shack and your fraction of a acre. Nobody in the top 1% wants your stuff, except maybe as a way to defraud somebody with a mortgage.)
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And BTW... where do you think this magic money comes from, dipshit?
I want you to explain it in detail where the money comes from.
https://education.howthemarketworks.com/how-is-money-created/
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You really don't know how banks work, do you?
You deposit 1M, the banks loan out 25M. In other words, they get to create money out of thin air, then charge you extra of your real earned money in order to borrow it.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capitalrequirement.asp
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
P.P.S. I'm preempting any know it alls like Cap'n who are going to say that putting a false number of dependents on your W4 is illegal. (Because we've argued about this before, and he's stupid and will have no doubt forgotten that I won that argument).
It's not illegal. But not paying your taxes in full and on time will lead to fines and penalties and can snowball into a much worse situation. This is ill-advised for most people since they suck with money.
Actually, I think I just gave up because you - like FIFI lately - are just too stupid or too stubborn or too determined to be a contrary a-hole to waste much time on.
In this case, I say go for it 6ForBrains - roll the dice:
https://www.communitytax.com/resource-center/tax-scams/false-deduction
s/
"Penalties for Claiming False Dependents
When you knowingly claim a false dependent on your taxes, you risk sanctions and a potential audit from the IRS. Claiming false deductions like dependents is considered tax evasion and is, therefore, a felony with potentially severe criminal penalties. However, the IRS will only consider alleging a malicious dependent fraud if the taxpayer demonstrated willfulness—meaning that you have to be aware of your crime to be charged. Without the intention, the offense is considered negligence. There are still penalties for neglect; it’s your responsibility to know the rules, but it’s not a crime.
Dependents can make you eligible for other forms of tax breaks in addition to the initial reduction. You can receive tax credits for education expenses, medical bills, and childcare—this is why claiming false deductions for a dependent is so prevalent. If the IRS accuses you of claiming a false dependent, you will be required to pay the full amount you avoided by doing so. In addition to the total amount, you will be required to pay a .5% late fee for the unpaid amount each month that had passed since the tax was due."
Shit for brains still doesn't get it.
I'm not talking about rolling the dice and claiming false dependents on your 1040 at tax time, retard. OBVIOUSLY THAT IS ILLEGAL.
I'm talking about taking allowances upfront when you fill out your W4 with your employer. (ie: via claiming dependents that don't exist on that form).
By claiming 1 (for yourself), your employer (or their 3rd party payroll company) takes a LOT more out of your check to cover taxes than you're going to need at the end of the year. This is why a majority of people actually LIKE tax time because they have sizable State and FED tax returns coming back to them. This is essentially giving both your local government and the federal government an interest free loan all year long. But some people like doing this because they are shit at saving and they consider this a bonus check. Then there's the really stupid people that actually think the government is giving them something once a year.
By claiming 2 (for yourself, and an additional "phantom"), they take just about enough to break even. In most cases, both the state and fed will still owe you money, but just around 10% of what they would have owed you had you claimed 1 allowance on the W4. (In all the years I've been doing this, there has only been one time where I ever had to write a small check around $30 to pay taxes back, and it was far below the threshold of any fines or interest due (which is usually $500/$600 or more, depending on if we're talking the Federal government or what state you live in).
You can be a total dumbass and claim 3 or 4 or 10 if you'd like, but the more you claim the less is withheld and you will be setting yourself up for a huge tax bill at the end of the year plus fines and interest. Take long enough to pay that back and then you're going to get your ass in deep trouble.
MY FUCKING POINT HERE IS THAT YOU WERE ALWAYS ABLE TO DO THIS, AND IT WAS N
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Quote:1kiki, you read: "Institutions with a ratio below 4% are considered undercapitalized, and those below 3% are significantly undercapitalized." Then you calculated that 100%/4% = 25. There is where your $25 million came from, but that's NOT how it is done, 1kiki.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You really don't know how banks work, do you?
You deposit 1M, the banks loan out 25M. In other words, they get to create money out of thin air, then charge you extra of your real earned money in order to borrow it.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capitalrequirement.asp
The bank can only loan out $960,000. When the bank only has $40,000 in the safe, it can certainly get into trouble if depositors want their $1 million back today, but not as much trouble as 1kiki's weird idea that the bank loaned out $25 million after only receiving $1 million in deposits.
Covid-19 relief money will be borrowed by issuing bonds. There is an auction the day before Christmas. https://treasurydirect.gov/instit/instit.htm?upcoming
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While the new legislation provides a sort of bridge to the post-Covid future, it’s a bridge that spans only part of the chasm ahead. And the way the bill was passed offers few reasons to be optimistic about Republican willingness to let the Biden administration finish the project.
Remember, until recently Mitch McConnell showed little interest in passing any kind of relief package. And there’s no mystery about what changed his mind: It was all about the Senate runoffs in Georgia. “Kelly [Loeffler] and David [Perdue] are getting hammered” over the failure to provide aid, he told his political allies.
Once those races end on Jan. 5, McConnell’s sure to lose interest all over again. And unless Democrats win both elections, he’ll still be Senate majority leader, in a position to stand in the way of any further economic relief.
Beyond that, the final hurdles to reaching an agreement were a reminder of something we should have learned during the Obama years: When a Democrat is in the White House, Republicans try to sabotage the economy. And the sabotage doesn’t stop with using phony deficit concerns to block necessary spending; it also involves deliberately increasing the risk of financial crisis.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/21/opinion/republicans-covid-stimulus.
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Second doesn't know shit about how anything works.
Why would banks be any different?
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:Yeah, it's called a 'run on the bank', and it's happened in the past and can happen in the future. And that's one reason why banks are now allowed to make themselves whole out of your deposits. They're considered 'unsecured loans' to the bank.
When the bank only has $40,000 in the safe, it can certainly get into trouble if depositors want their $1 million back today...
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Can too big to fail banks really take your money if things go sour and leave you screwed without access to your cash?
The short answer: without the proper regulation in place (which is currently not in place), is: YES.
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Under conditions of financial strain, customers and depositors who are storing assets in a bank are “creditors” who can immediately be regarded as legitimate bank “shareholders.”
This means that a large portion of their stored funds can be converted into bank equity. To be clear, depositor funds and assets can be legally confiscated by the bank to maintain its solvency.
It's called BAIL-IN.
FURTHERMORE - doooodo - there are NO banks that are 100% capitalized. ALL banks lend money they don't actually have.
40CFR § 324.10 Minimum capital requirements.:
(1) An FDIC-supervised institution must maintain the following minimum capital ratios:
(i) A common equity tier 1 capital ratio of 4.5 percent.
(ii) A tier 1 capital ratio of 6 percent.
(iii) A total capital ratio of 8 percent.
(iv) A leverage ratio of 4 percent.
(v) For advanced approaches FDIC-supervised institutions or for Category III FDIC-regulated institutions, a supplementary leverage ratio of 3 percent.
(vi) For state savings associations, a tangible capital ratio of 1.5 percent.
In other words - banks are required to have ON HAND less than 10% of money they've loaned.
Sheesh. Even a simpleton could understand that.
But I forgot who I'm discussing this with.
And, besides, your contention has nothing to do with the topic.
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Quote:6ix, 1kiki: I see why you two live in relative poverty between 1kiki's Soviet era education on how Capitalism really works and 6ix's misunderstandings, which just so happen to match that of poor white trash everywhere. Maybe you two should read a book:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second doesn't know shit about how anything works.
Why would banks be any different?
Chapter 29, Money, Banking, and the Federal Reserve System, from Economics 4th Edition
https://libgen.unblockit.dev/search.php?req=Economics+Wells+Krugman
In 2013, police in Lima, Peru, were stunned when they arrested a 13-year-old boy carrying a sack filled with $700,000 in counterfeit U.S. dollars. The boy, along with several other children, worked for one of the many highly successful counterfeiting rings in Peru.
In recent years, Peru has become a major source for the production of counterfeit U.S. currency. Workers in these rings meticulously add decorative details to printed bills by hand, creating high-quality fakes that are very hard to detect.
The funny thing is that elaborately decorated pieces of paper have little or no intrinsic value. Indeed, a $100 bill printed with blue or orange ink wouldn’t be worth the paper it was printed on.
But if the ink on that piece of paper is just the right shade of green, people will think that it’s money and will accept it as payment for very real goods and services. Why? Because they believe, correctly, that they can do the same thing: exchange that piece of green paper for real goods and services.
In fact, here’s a riddle: If a fake $100 bill from Peru enters the United States and is successfully exchanged for a good or service with nobody ever realizing it’s fake, who gets hurt? Accepting a fake $100 bill isn’t like buying a car that turns out to be a lemon or a meal that turns out to be inedible. As long as the bill's counterfeit nature remains undiscovered, it will pass from hand to hand just like a real $100 bill.
The answer to the riddle is that the actual victims of the counterfeiting are U.S. taxpayers because counterfeit dollars reduce the revenues available to pay for the operations of the U.S. government. Accordingly, the Secret Service diligently monitors the integrity of U.S. currency, promptly investigating any reports of counterfeit dollars.
The efforts of the Secret Service attest to the fact that money isn’t like ordinary goods and services, and it certainly is not like a piece of colored paper. In this section we'll look at what money is, the role that it plays, the workings of a modern monetary system, and the institutions that sustain and regulate it, including the Federal Reserve.
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Dude. You don't have any money.
Nobody cares.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:Half of the households in America have little or no net worth, with most what they have tied up in their house:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude. You don't have any money.
Nobody cares.
Bottom 10% have $0.00 or less.
Bottom 20%? $6,368.35 or less.
Bottom 30%? $23,695.62 or less.
Bottom 40%? $67,469.07 or less.
Bottom 50%? $121,411.37 or less.
https://dqydj.com/average-median-top-net-worth-percentiles/
How did half the households end up this way?
By thinking they know more than they really do about money.
They are the same as 6ix -- bragging about the crappy place they live in and what little they know about money and unable to quickly learn more.
That's why the bottom 50% need bailing out with Covid-19 relief.
I know this from a small sample in Texas of 5 households I've poured $1,634,936 into as of Dec 1, 2020. All have pissed the money away, except for one, who I bailed out with a $5,500 gift, not a loan, at Thanksgiving before the JSC Federal Credit Union takes action. That household got $413,760 in cash gifts from me, but they have a net worth I estimate of under $100,000. None of the five families understand they are poor because they waste too much.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
P.P.S. I'm preempting any know it alls like Cap'n who are going to say that putting a false number of dependents on your W4 is illegal. (Because we've argued about this before, and he's stupid and will have no doubt forgotten that I won that argument).
It's not illegal. But not paying your taxes in full and on time will lead to fines and penalties and can snowball into a much worse situation. This is ill-advised for most people since they suck with money.
Geezus, 6FB, you're always trying to take credit for knowing what almost everyone has known forever.
Top Tip I'm sure you won't listen to: It's one of the consequences when YOU post 4 years (at least) of stupid shit. "Trump - 4 more years - get use to it." People expect your next post to be more of the same. And re-read your fing wording:
"Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
P.P.S. I'm preempting any know it alls like Cap'n who are going to say that putting a false number of dependents on your W4 is illegal.
It's not illegal."
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No kidding it's not illegal.
You argued with me before that it WAS illegal.
Glad you finally learned something, troglodyte.
Now tell Marcos to stop blaming that one on Trump, and remind him in April that it wasn't Trump's fault when people can't pay their taxes.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Half of the households in America have little or no net worth, with most what they have tied up in their house:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude. You don't have any money.
Nobody cares.
Bottom 10% have $0.00 or less.
Bottom 20%? $6,368.35 or less.
Bottom 30%? $23,695.62 or less.
Bottom 40%? $67,469.07 or less.
Bottom 50%? $121,411.37 or less.
https://dqydj.com/average-median-top-net-worth-percentiles/
How did half the households end up this way?
By thinking they know more than they really do about money.
They are the same as 6ix -- bragging about the crappy place they live in and what little they know about money and unable to quickly learn more.
That's why the bottom 50% need bailing out with Covid-19 relief.
I know this from a small sample in Texas of 5 households I've poured $1,634,936 into as of Dec 1, 2020. All have pissed the money away, except for one, who I bailed out with a $5,500 gift, not a loan, at Thanksgiving before the JSC Federal Credit Union takes action. That household got $413,760 in cash gifts from me, but they have a net worth I estimate of under $100,000. None of the five families understand they are poor because they waste too much.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I don't owe anybody anything.
My house is awesome and my cost of living is almost non existant.
I work whenever the hell I feel like it.
Go fuck yourself, hater.
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Quote:No, it's because "Top 1% Of U.S. Households Hold 15 Times More Wealth Than Bottom 50% Combined". https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/10/08/top-1-of-us-househol
That's why the bottom 50% need bailing out with Covid-19 relief.
ds-hold-15-times-more-wealth-than-bottom-50-combined/
Seriously dooodo - the bottom 50% could not POSSIBLY waste that much money. The fact is, they're not earning enough. (And the statistic no one provides is the mode ... becasue that would be too stark a look at the US economy and how it doesn't work for the average person.)
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:No, it's because "Top 1% Of U.S. Households Hold 15 Times More Wealth Than Bottom 50% Combined".
That's why the bottom 50% need bailing out with Covid-19 relief.
Seriously dooodo - the bottom 50% could not POSSIBLY waste that much money. The fact is, they're not earning enough. (And the statistic no one provides is the mode ... becasue that would be too stark a look at the US economy and how it doesn't work for the average person.)
I'd say it's probably a little of Column A and a little of Column B...
Yes. A majority of Americans are absolutely terrible with money.
Yes. The likelihood of Americans being terrible with money grows as they have access to more of it.
This isn't entirely their fault though. Our school systems are designed to churn out millions of idiots who can't even wipe their own asses.
Do three things and a majority of Americans would live better lives as adults.
1. Finally make that switch from the Imperial system of math to Metric.
2. Teach Civics every year to kids instead of "Social Studies" so people know how government works and what their rights are.
3. Teach economics every year, particularly in High School, instead of cramming their heads full of bullshit a vast majority of them will never use like Geometry and Trigonometry. Every American should know how to do their own taxes, balance their checkbook, and create a budget by the time they graduate high school.
As low as the quality of life is in America for the majority compared to 25 years ago, it goes without saying that a majority of the people bitching today still do a lot of dumb shit and make a lot of dumb decisions with their money to get them where they are. Take a look at the truly poor and how they are able to stretch a buck out of necessity before bitching about how bad you've got it.
I'm not arguing that the system as it's currently running isn't fair. I'm just saying that Second's not entirely wrong when he says that throwing money at the problem isn't going to fix it.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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As a personal antecdote to this idea, I'll use coworkers at my last two jobs as an example.
It's already a widely held belief that a majority of smokers and people with bad diets are poor or close to the poverty line. Both of those jobs don't lead me to believe the contrary.
Not only did a majority of those people working overnights smoke, but they also ate fast food every night on lunch. And they're buying cigarettes at $8.00 to $10.00 per pack, instead of rolling their own for a little over $1.00.
$5.00 for lunch and a pack a day habit at $10.00 per pack adds up quick. At one job, those two things alone cost two hours of their labor for the day after taxes, or 1/4 of their earnings.
And the idea that you can't eat healthy on a budget is a boldfaced lie.
It takes a little work though. If you want to eat healthy and have somebody else do the cooking for you everyday and you can't ever bring yourself to try to buy stuff on sale or with coupons or buy in bulk, then DUH... It's not going to be cheap.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Trump threatens to torpedo COVID relief with new demands, requests $2,000 stimulus checks
Suddenly demanding changes fellow Republicans have opposed.
Trump assailed the bipartisan $900 billion package in a video he tweeted out Tuesday night and suggested he may not sign the legislation. He called on lawmakers to increase direct payments for most Americans from $600 to $2,000 for individuals and $4,000 for couples.
Railing against a range of provisions in the bill, including for foreign aid, he told lawmakers to “get rid of the wasteful and unnecessary items from this legislation and to send me a suitable bill.”
Video at https://www.wafb.com/2020/12/22/b-covid-relief-bill-including-stimulus
-checks-awaits-trumps-signature/
Trump sure does like drama, doesn't he? He sure hates planning ahead, doesn't he? His voters are no different. They love the emotional highs in life. They hate planning ahead to avoid predictable dramatic lows. That's why their lives and Trump's Presidency are such messes.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:I went back and forth about telling you how idiotic Trump voters are with money. I'll give you one super-compressed story: a Trumpkin came to me for advise about a money making scheme. I showed him with articles and calculations that it will fail. I spent many more hours thinking about his plan and doing research than he did. What was the scheme? He buys four new cars and loans them to Uber drivers in exchange for a cut of their earnings. He gets extra-income without work, the drivers prosper, everybody is better off than before. Typical American dream. It didn't work out that way. There were a thousand twists and turns in this story back in 2019 before Covid-19, but the Repo Man eventually towed away the cars, ending the story. Now there is only debt and sorrow where once there were dreams of an easier life. The smarter Trumpkins can learn the hard way. The others? They never learn.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'd say it's probably a little of Column A and a little of Column B...
Yes. A majority of Americans are absolutely terrible with money.
Yes. The likelihood of Americans being terrible with money grows as they have access to more of it.
This isn't entirely their fault though. Our school systems are designed to churn out millions of idiots who can't even wipe their own asses.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I went back and forth about telling you how idiotic Trump voters are with money. I'll give you one super-compressed story: a Trumpkin came to me for advise about a money making scheme. I showed him with articles and calculations that it will fail. I spent many more hours thinking about his plan and doing research than he did. What was the scheme? He buys four new cars and loans them to Uber drivers in exchange for a cut of their earnings. He gets extra-income without work, the drivers prosper, everybody is better off than before. Typical American dream. It didn't work out that way. There were a thousand twists and turns in this story back in 2019 before Covid-19, but the Repo Man eventually towed away the cars, ending the story. Now there is only debt and sorrow where once there were dreams of an easier life. The smarter Trumpkins can learn the hard way. The others? They never learn.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'd say it's probably a little of Column A and a little of Column B...
Yes. A majority of Americans are absolutely terrible with money.
Yes. The likelihood of Americans being terrible with money grows as they have access to more of it.
This isn't entirely their fault though. Our school systems are designed to churn out millions of idiots who can't even wipe their own asses.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
LOL
Then Second comes back and says something stupid like this.
The Establishment Elite might be mostly Democrats, sure. But we all can't be Nancy Pelosi and make $200,000,000 in a lifetime of "serving" the public or being a Hollywood actor.
A majority of the people in the country with money problems are also mostly Democrats
The party of making your grandchildren pay for the "free" shit we're going to give you today.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Originally posted by second:
Trump threatens to torpedo COVID relief with new demands, requests $2,000 stimulus checks
Suddenly demanding changes fellow Republicans have opposed.
Suddenly?
He's wanted to do a lot more than this bill since August.
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Trump sure does like drama, doesn't he? He sure hates planning ahead, doesn't he? His voters are no different. They love the emotional highs in life. They hate planning ahead to avoid predictable dramatic lows. That's why their lives and Trump's Presidency are such messes.
Yup. Sure thing.
That's why I haven't worked a day since June of 2019 and I'm better off than I was when I got laid off.
My only problem right now is a cold, dark winter with zero holiday stuff to look forward to because the Establishment is terrorizing the population.
But financially, I'm flush.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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I had one of those conversations today with a Trump voter who desperately needs Covid-19 relief and didn’t read the book “Don’t Get Taken Every Time”. We talked about cars. I gave him a paperback, which he won’t read - www.amazon.com/Remar-Sutton/e/B001ITZ07U
I let him talk and talk and show me the dealership papers signed two years ago. He now can’t afford the car, but if he stops payment his son can’t get to a job in Louisiana. This is about the only things I had to say before writing a check:
Mac Haik Toyota did this to you?
You paid $2,100 for a MasterTech warranty. That was money wasted.
16.89%? That is high interest.
You could have almost gotten a brand new Rav4 for what you paid on a used one with 41,000 miles.
www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/new-cars/2021/toyota/rav4
www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/new-cars/2020/toyota/rav4
The Trump voter thinks it’s bad luck he got in trouble about the car. I think it’s not his luck is bad.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Trump denounced the stimulus bill he had already agreed to as a disgrace. “I am asking Congress to amend this bill and increase the ridiculously low $600 to $2,000.”
Ironically, Trump’s call for a larger check is the position Democrats have taken for many months. Trump’s apparent attempt to scuttle the existing deal opens the opportunity for Democrats to get a much better stimulus deal. Democrats have a chance to paint Republican candidates as being stingier than their own party’s standard-bearer.
In a cagey move, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has decided to take Trump’s rhetoric at face value to force him to live up to it. “Republicans repeatedly refused to say what amount the President wanted for direct checks,” Pelosi tweeted. “At last, the President has agreed to $2,000—Democrats are ready to bring this to the Floor this week by unanimous consent. Let’s do it!”
On the stimulus, Trump’s own long-term interests no longer align with the GOP’s. If he ran for president again in 2024, it would help if he could say that he tried to give a generous stimulus but was thwarted by Congress.
The most stalwart opposition to $2000 checks is McConnell’s own caucus. This blows up McConnell’s deal and screws Georgia Senators Loeffler and Purdue who’ve now been wrong footed. Pelosi is right to call the bluff. Push as far as you can and force a showdown between Trump and McConnell because ultimately that’s big battle that has to happen before this era ends.
Pelosi’s play is the right one and could pay off for the Democrats in a variety of ways. If Trump refuses the offer, his own bad management and dishonesty will be highlighted. If Republicans scuttle the deal, that’ll hurt them in Georgia and future elections. If Trump and the Senate GOP do go along, then there will be a much bigger stimulus as Democrats wanted since April.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-chaos-stimulus-pelosi/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
I had one of those conversations today with a Trump voter who desperately needs Covid-19 relief and didn’t read the book “Don’t Get Taken Every Time”. We talked about cars. I gave him a paperback, which he won’t read - www.amazon.com/Remar-Sutton/e/B001ITZ07U
I let him talk and talk and show me the dealership papers signed two years ago. He now can’t afford the car, but if he stops payment his son can’t get to a job in Louisiana. This is about the only things I had to say before writing a check:
Mac Haik Toyota did this to you?
You paid $2,100 for a MasterTech warranty. That was money wasted.
16.89%? That is high interest.
You could have almost gotten a brand new Rav4 for what you paid on a used one with 41,000 miles.
www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/new-cars/2021/toyota/rav4
www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/new-cars/2020/toyota/rav4
The Trump voter thinks it’s bad luck he got in trouble about the car. I think it’s not his luck is bad.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I bought a (now) 26 year old car 12 years ago direct from the dealership that was trying to repossess it from somebody who was going through bankruptcy. $5,000 was still owed on the car. I paid $2,000 cash by talking with the person's bankruptcy lawyer.
My last car payment on any of the cars that I've owned was a lump sum $3,000+ payment of the balance when I got a bonus at my job during the first year of the GWB presidency. Since then, I have never had a single car payment or paid a dime on interest. I've also only carried the bare-bones legal liability insurance on any of these cars.
When something breaks, I learn how to fix it at a very small fraction of the cost of what a mechanic would charge. And I also end up with new tools and more knowledge that will last for the rest of my life to boot.
Not including oil changes and gas, my cost of car ownership since 2001 has been $3,800 for two cars paid in cash, and roughly $4,750 in car insurance. Throw in an additional $500-$600 for tires and the stuff I've fixed. (We will call licensing and title fees a wash with the money I got for junking the two cars).
Divided by 19 years, that's less than $500 a year to get from A to B and be legally insured by a reputable insurance outfit.
My East Coast Biden* voter brother and his wife just spent $70,000 on a new vehicle that instantly lost twice what I've paid to drive a car for nearly two decades the moment they drove it off the payment. (Meaning that in that single moment, they spent twice as much money as it took me 599,184,000 seconds to spend on vehicles).
That's not to mention all of the interest they'll be paying over the years for it, and the fact that I bought an entire house for what they're going to be selling for around $15k in 4 or 5 years if they're lucky.
Their monthly car payment without even considering the insurance premium is going to be far more than my cost of driving per year. And that's if you ignore the fact that they already "own" another $50,000 vehicle that they "bought" last year too.
Hell... Their monthly car payment on just the one vehicle could easily cover every monthly bill I have, including property taxes, with enough money left over to buy a subscription to every video streaming service in existence.
I could live off of what most jokers pay in interest every month.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Congress Still Jacking Off Over Unemployment
I love it that Trump is trolling both democrats* AND republicans over their skimpy COVID-19 relief payments.
Republicans Are Stuck Between President and Party on the Stimulus
Mr. Trump is pushing for $2,000 payments for individuals, a position embraced by progressives and deplored by conservatives.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/23/us/joe-biden-trump/
Meanwhile:
Buried in Pandemic Aid Bill: Billions to Soothe the Richest
The bill includes provisions — good, bad and just plain strange — that few lawmakers got to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/us/politics/whats-in-the-covid-reli
ef-bill.html
Now personally, I don't "believe" what the NYTimes prints just because it's the NYTimes that's printing it. But this information is easy enough to check.
If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Quote:I believe most Trump voters could stabilize their lives and calm their frenzied minds by learning from "The Tightwad Gazette". Then they won't worry so much about Covid-19 Relief. But that's as unlikely as them practicing meditation or voting Democrat.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I could live off of what most jokers pay in interest every month.
www.google.com/search?q=the+tightwad+gazette+website
https://libgen.unblockit.dev/search.php?req=The+Tightwad+Gazette
The Tightwad Gazette was a newsletter written by Amy in the 1990s, with the last issue going out in 1996. I saw the newsletter a few times when it was in print, but I didn’t really dig into it until later on, when I was in bad financial shape and I turned to my local library to find out ways to help me out of my debt crisis. There, I found The Complete Tightwad Gazette, and it was a revelation – a thousand page tome full of ideas on how to save money, conveniently written in bite sized pieces almost like blog postings.. Needless to say, I ate it up and was duly inspired, not only as a person looking to save money, but as a writer, too.
https://www.thesimpledollar.com/save-money/an-interview-with-amy-dacyc
zyn-the-author-of-the-tightwad-gazette/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I believe most Trump voters could stabilize their lives and calm their frenzied minds by learning from "The Tightwad Gazette". Then they won't worry so much about Covid-19 Relief. But that's as unlikely as them practicing meditation or voting Democrat.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I could live off of what most jokers pay in interest every month.
Why are you pretending that Democrat voters aren't equally worrying about Covid relief right now?
You do realize that a majority of Democrat voters, particularly in Urban areas, were already on various government programs before 2020 happened, don't you?
Hell... Your own Lefty Media makes a point of writing stories about how they're the ones disproportionately hit by all of this every day.
Just because I don't worry about it, I'm not going to sit here and say that only one side or the other is worried about where their meal is coming from.
I suggest that you do the same, if you want to learn anything about how to empathize with others. Life in 2020 sucks for almost everybody right now.
They broke the mold when they made me. I fully recognize this. If you want to go on pretending that the stories you tell about yourself here are true, you're going to have to stop applying the story of that life to everybody else in the country, because your (very likely fictional) character is far from the norm as well.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:The only Democrats I know who are desperately for Covid-19 Relief to pass are Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, but I do know hundreds of Trump voters who need that money. It must be a Texas thing where poor Democrats get help from other Democrats while poor Trump voters get nothing from other Trump voters except a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year greeting, since words cost nothing.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why are you pretending that Democrat voters aren't equally worrying about Covid relief right now?
You do realize that a majority of Democrat voters, particularly in Urban areas, were already on various government programs before 2020 happened, don't you?
Hell... Your own Lefty Media makes a point of writing stories about how they're the ones disproportionately hit by all of this every day.
Just because I don't worry about it, I'm not going to sit here and say that only one side or the other is worried about where their meal is coming from.
I suggest that you do the same, if you want to learn anything about how to empathize with others. Life in 2020 sucks for almost everybody right now.
They broke the mold when they made me. I fully recognize this. If you want to go on pretending that the stories you tell about yourself here are true, you're going to have to stop applying the story of that life to everybody else in the country, because your (very likely fictional) character is far from the norm as well.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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With time running out before the end of Congress’s current session, there’s one tool that President Donald Trump could use to block a new stimulus bill without outright rejecting it: a pocket veto.
As Fox News reporter Chad Pergram explains, the name of this veto comes from presidents’ ability to effectively table bills and put them in their “pocket.”
As laid out in the Constitution, if the president does not sign a bill within 10 days of receiving it (excluding Sundays) and Congress adjourns during that time, the bill is considered vetoed. Because Congress has already adjourned by that point, it does not have the ability to override this veto.
Speculation about a potential pocket veto has emerged this week after Trump posted a last-minute speech criticizing the stimulus bill as a “disgrace” and calling on Congress to amend it. In his remarks, he urged lawmakers to increase the amount allocated in stimulus checks from $600 to $2,000. He also threatened to oppose the bill, though he did not commit to vetoing it if these demands aren’t met, raising questions about how he’ll respond when Congress likely fails to make the changes he wants.
It’s very possible that Trump won’t do anything and will simply sign the bill anyway; but if he wanted to, he could still veto the bill directly or go the pocket veto route.
https://www.vox.com/2020/12/23/22197491/trump-pocket-veto
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
The only Democrats I know who are desperately for Covid-19 Relief to pass are Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, but I do know hundreds of Trump voters who need that money.
First off, that's not a sentence.
Second... For a dude who hates Republicans so much he fires people that don't agree with him, you sure do surround yourself with a lot of them.
Seriously. Fuck off man.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:Seriously? The top Republican in the House said he, personally, will stop Nancy Pelosi from increasing the $600 payment to $2,000 and he will do it on Christmas Eve. If you want to see that stinginess in real life, go to any Trump voter, show them you are starving, and ask for money. Ask for $600. Ask for $2,000. The answer will be "Hell NO!" unless you ask for tiny sums such as $1 or $5 or $20.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The only Democrats I know who are desperately for Covid-19 Relief to pass are Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, but I do know hundreds of Trump voters who need that money.
First off, that's not a sentence.
Second... For a dude who hates Republicans so much he fires people that don't agree with him, you sure do surround yourself with a lot of them.
Seriously. Fuck off man.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-23/pelosi-plans-thursd
ay-vote-on-trump-s-2-000-stimulus-checks
What would I do? Since I am not stingy like Trump voters, with friends I help with no limits, even if they like Trump. Since I am not cowardly like Trump voters, with enemies I stomp on them without fear of consequences. Because miserliness (in your case), stinginess and fearfulness controls much of what a Trump voter does, the world pretty much can depend on them to turn their back whenever a friend or foe or, sometimes, family asks for a gift of money, unless it is a very small gift. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
If you want to see that stinginess in real life, go to any Trump voter, show them you are starving, and ask for money. Ask for $600. Ask for $2,000. The answer will be "Hell NO!" unless you ask for tiny sums such as $1 or $5 or $20.
Fuck off dude. You still haven't given $1 out of your hundreds of millions of Trump tax cuts to Haken for his website you use every day.
Everything you say is a lie.
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Meanwhile, in reality...
The only person who's gotten any money into the hands of the unemployed is Trump, who diverted $1,800 per person from FEMA after it was clear both parties in Congress weren't serious about doing so.
Not much, for sure, but the new $900 Billion dollar bill that both parties came to an agreement on only after the election isn't either.
But there sure is a lot of stupid shit that money is going to in the bill.
Maybe I'll compile a list here...
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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What's in the 5,593 Page Bill?
Or
Working Really Hard to Spend Money on Anything BUT Covid Relief...
https://lawandcrime.com/covid-19-pandemic/the-5-weirdest-things-congre
ss-shoved-into-the-covid-19-stimulus-bill/ (The Tweets from people on both sides are priceless for this story)
1. Tax deductions for “Three-martini lunches.”
Until now, businesses have only been able to deduct 50-percent of meal expenses on their federal tax returns. Under this change, for which President Donald Trump advocated as a way to help business, business meals will be deductible from soup to nuts. The bill awaits Trump’s signature.
2. Funding for three new museums: The Smithsonian American Women’s History Museum, the National Museum of the American Latino, and the Coast Guard Museum.
3. Prohibits “doping” in horseracing.
In a subsection labeled the “Horseracing Integrity and Safety Act of 2020,” the bill creates a committee to regulate the use of performance-enhancing drugs in horse racing.
4. Make illegal streaming a felony.
The bill makes several changes to copyright law, including one measure aimed at protecting the intellectual property rights of artists and entertainment companies. Under the law, illegal streaming for commercial profit is a felony.
Story about this here: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/the-covid-19-stimulus-bill-w
ould-make-illegal-streaming-a-felony
5. Warns China against interfering in the naming of the next Dalai Lama.
Under the bill, “interference by the Government of the People’s Republic of China or any other government in the process of recognizing a successor or reincarnation of the 14th Dalai Lama and any future Dalai Lamas would represent a clear abuse of the right to religious freedom of Tibetan Buddhists and the Tibetan people.”
https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/10/12/pelosis-stimulus-bill-an-unhel
pful-spending-spree/
Rewrites federal election law for 2020, which will force states to:
- Bar voter ID requirements
- Count absentee ballots that arrive 10 days after election day
- Enable same-day voter registration everywhere
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/531294-congresss-pork-filled-covid
-relief-bill
It harkens back to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) once explaining that a bill needed to be passed in order to find out what was in it. In a related story, our government is broken.
Exhibit A: "Of the funds appropriated under title III of the Act that are made available for assistance for Pakistan, not less than $15,000,000 shall be made available for democracy programs and not less than $10,000,000 shall be made available for gender programs." Yep. $10 million. For gender programs. In Pakistan.
Exhibit B: Funds for "Resource Study of Springfield (Illinois) Race Riot." That riot occurred in (checks notes) 1908.
Exhibit C: "Statement Of Policy Regarding The Succession Or Reincarnation Of The Dalai Lama." We'll just leave that one there.
Exhibit D: There's actually a commission tasked with educating “consumers about the dangers associated with using or storing portable fuel containers for flammable liquids near an open flame."
Exhibit E: Another $40 million will be allocated "for the necessary expenses for the operation, maintenance and security" of The Kennedy Center, which received $25 million in another COVID-19 relief bill earlier this year. Also in a related story, the Kennedy Center has been closed.
Exhibits F, G, H, I, J: $86 million for assistance to Cambodia; $130 million to Nepal, $135 million to Burma, $453 million to Ukraine, $700 million to Sudan.
Exhibit K: The bill creates a Women's History Museum and an American Latino Museum as part of the Smithsonian. Overall, the Smithsonian gets (checks notes again) $1 billion.
You get the idea. It's the oldest trick in Washington: Take a bill that symbolically is overwhelmingly supported by the American people on its title alone (COVID-19 relief for those struggling due to the pandemi
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Quote:6ix, do a Thought Experiment:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
If you want to see that stinginess in real life, go to any Trump voter, show them you are starving, and ask for money. Ask for $600. Ask for $2,000. The answer will be "Hell NO!" unless you ask for tiny sums such as $1 or $5 or $20.
Fuck off dude. You still haven't given $1 out of your hundreds of millions of Trump tax cuts to Haken for his website you use every day.
Everything you say is a lie.
1) Withdraw $600 from your bank account.
2) Give it all away today. It is Christmas Eve and you are Santa's helper.
I think you can’t do it, even in your imagination. You do it for real? Never.
Most Republicans can’t, won’t, couldn’t imagine doing it.
www.powerthesaurus.org/thought_experiment/synonyms
The very first time I gave money to fireflyfans.net was back on
Tue, Dec 23, 2008
Transaction ID: 6HP56951AM6790227
Item Price: $100.00 USD
There are 235 items in the gmail account I use for firefly that have both label:firefly label:buy
That means I gave at least 100 times, because each time there are two emails, one from PayPal and another from fff.net at PayPal, which is kind of redundant.
This continued on and on for years and years:
Thu, Sep 26, 2013
Confirmation number: 1XF17909D0395423J
Donation amount: $77.00 USD
Tue, Oct 22, 2013
Confirmation number: 8SE505769E937241P
Donation amount: $77.00 USD
Mon, Nov 25, 2013
Confirmation number: 5X590157BP594313D
Donation amount: $75.00 USD
Sat, Dec 7, 2013
Confirmation number: 7UE10697CF419871V
Donation amount: $77.00 USD
until I lost interest:
Mon, Jan 1, 2018
Confirmation number: 2HR23781UJ122681F
Donation amount: $2.00 USD
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Why on earth would I do that?
Feel free to give $600 on my behalf to the charity of your choice out of those hundreds of millions of Trump tax breaks you got.
You're welcome.
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Quote:Your answer proved what is wrong with you and why the Republican Congressmen will be extremely stingy this Christmas with Covid-19 relief. It is the same thing that is wrong with every Trump voter I know. There are other thought experiments that measure bravery when you are all alone, understanding of money, openness to new experiences, willingness to take calculated risks, mental calmness under high pressure, tolerance for pain, endurance of hardship without mentally breaking down, etc. but I'm sure from reading you for years that you have the same weaknesses, which you mistake for strengths, that Trump voters I know have. To rub it in, that is why Trump voters' lives are full of trouble. Their weaknesses and predilections cause the trouble.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why on earth would I do that?
Feel free to give $600 on my behalf to the charity of your choice out of those hundreds of millions of Trump tax breaks you got.
You're welcome.
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lol
I don't see any of you Democrats on this board handing out $600 checks to strangers.
Go fuck yourself Second.
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Quote:Yes, LOL indeed:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
President Donald Trump’s sudden demand for $2,000 checks for most Americans was swiftly rejected by House Republicans on Thursday as his haphazard actions throw a massive COVID relief and government funding bill into chaos.
The rare Christmas Eve session of the House lasted just minutes, with help for millions of Americans awaiting Trump’s signature on the bill. Unemployment benefits, eviction protections and other emergency aid, including smaller $600 checks, are at risk. Trump’s refusal of the $900 billion package, which is linked to $1.4 trillion government funds bill, could spark a federal shutdown at midnight Monday.
Trump is ending his presidency much the way he started it — sowing confusion and reversing promises all while courting a federal shutdown over demands his own party in Congress will not meet.
The congressional Republican leaders have been left almost speechless by Trump’s year-end scorching of their work. The year-end package Trump railed against as a “disgrace” is the product of months of work. The final text of the more than 5,000-page bill required days to be compiled but on Thursday it was completed and sent to the White House for Trump’s signature.
The Senate cleared the huge relief package Monday by a 92-6 vote after the House approved it by 359-53. Those votes totals would be enough to override a veto should Trump decide to take that step.
“The best way out of this is for the president to sign the bill,” Republican Sen. Roy Blunt of Missouri said Thursday. “And I still hope that’s what he decides.”
The president’s push to increase direct payments for most Americans from $600 to $2,000 for individuals splits the GOP with a politically difficult test of their loyalty to the president.
On a conference call Wednesday House Republican lawmakers complained that Trump threw them under the bus, according to one Republican on the private call and granted anonymity to discuss it. Most had voted for the package and they urged GOP leaders to hit the cable news shows to explain its benefits, the person said.
Even if the House is able to approve Trump’s $2,000 checks Monday, that measure would likely die in the GOP-controlled Senate, which is due back in session Tuesday.
The president’s unpredictable demands are creating more Trump-related headaches for Georgia GOP Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, who are fighting for their political lives — and for continued GOP control of the Senate — in a pair of Jan. 5 Georgia run-off elections. They are being forced to choose whether to back or buck Trump, potentially angering voters on all sides.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-politics-legislation-coronavir
us-pandemic-bills-3cf97d6b39b80213ecd3d49ed4dcdc1e
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Yes, LOL indeed:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
President Donald Trump’s sudden demand for $2,000 checks for most Americans was swiftly rejected by House Republicans on Thursday as his haphazard actions throw a massive COVID relief and government funding bill into chaos.
He is a spiteful, hateful pos. In his mind he probably thinks: "why would I help all these poor losers fks who didn't vote for me??" No way the $2k is a genuine offer.
I have no idea if he really wants another term, other than him not getting something makes him cry like a 2 year old. Plus, he's making more money now on the way out the door from his idiot base. Speculation is he'll start a cable channel and punk his 20,000,000 dumb af base for $5 a month for "premium access" for another $100,000,000 a month. He'll be able to hold his head high next time he sees Putin. He's finally found a way to marry what he's always been good at - being a grifter - with being president. He's making more being a loser than he ever did by stealing - er, winning - the election the first time. Just in time for xmas!
BUT... supposing he really does mean what he says, "I'm president!" There's always the next grift for a conman, so my thinking is this monkey wrench is a way to get Mitch to come to the oval office and make a deal. "Mitch, I'll shoot down the Dems and sign the bill as-is, IF you get enough senators to sign onto my latest coup attempt in the senate. Deal?"
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Once again, while Congress did nothing when unemployment benefits ran out in August, Trump was the one who put an additional $1,800 in the pockets of nearly every unemployed citizen by diverting FEMA funds. He's always been saying that there should be more than Republicans were saying there should be since day one.
Democrats agreed too, at least until Biden* won* the election.
Then they passed a bill that was worse than the ones the Republicans would have agreed to pass before Trump got elected and called it a victory.
Even DNC collusion hack Wolf Blitzer gave Nancy the shit for it leading up to the election.
And then Keith Olbermann came out of his years long dog-rescuing stupor to tweet that Wolf Blitzer owes Nancy Pelosi an apology.
Yeah. I guess he should be sorry that for once in his life he did his goddamned job.
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Also...
Trump's LWA order was for $400 per week, with the state kicking in $100 of that. Kentucky, Montana and West Virginia were the only three states who kicked in that extra $100. All three of which, BTW, are solidly red states.
https://www.unemploymentpua.com/articles/lwatracker.html
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Quote:Trump is addicted to the high he gets from conflict. There is no thrill for him in straightforward signing the bill. Instead, he goes for the maximum conflict by making everybody stop what they are doing and wait for him to decide if he will or won't sign the bill. He won't even tell reporters if he will be in Florida or in Washington DC for Inauguration. He is trying to achieve the maximum drama/conflict and personal pleasure from mundane decisions. When things are going wrong, spiralling into chaos, Trump feels most ALIVE, the hero who will save the day. That is not how CEOs are suppose to run a business, but that's how Trump has always done it.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
He is a spiteful, hateful pos. In his mind he probably thinks: "why would I help all these poor losers fks who didn't vote for me??" No way the $2k is a genuine offer.
I think Trump deliberately screws thing up and takes ridiculous gambles because it is exciting and he doesn't get hurt:
"Over the course of a lifetime of professional and personal transgressions and failures, channeling lasting, curdled lessons of Norman Vincent Peale and Roy Cohn, Trump has assembled a record of rather remarkable resilience. His typical level of activity and almost animal energy has at times lent him an air of insusceptibility, every one of his brushes with financial or reputational ruin ending with Trump emerging all but untouched."
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/20/trump-white-house-lo
sing-448903
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Better watch out when he comes back in 2024 after 4 long and hard years where nobody got what they were promised.
If I were Trump, I'd run in the Democratic Primary next time and make everyone's heads explode.
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Quote:Trump should run in both major party primaries. That way, when he wins both, there is no way he can't win the general election.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Better watch out when he comes back in 2024 after 4 long and hard years where nobody got what they were promised.
If I were Trump, I'd run in the Democratic Primary next time and make everyone's heads explode.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump should run in both major party primaries. That way, when he wins both, there is no way he can't win the general election.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Better watch out when he comes back in 2024 after 4 long and hard years where nobody got what they were promised.
If I were Trump, I'd run in the Democratic Primary next time and make everyone's heads explode.
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Pretty sure that would be illegal.
Although if Trump were running as a Democrat he'd be able to learn all the secrets that Democrats use to steal elections... so maybe it can be done?
I see you still haven't addressed the fact that the only single person in America to have given any financial relief to unemployed workers since they expired at the end of July was one Donald J. Trump.
Imagine that.
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Oh look. I won another one.
The silence is deafening.
And you're all far too predictable.
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Quote:Trump will cost jobless workers a week of $300 federal unemployment benefits if he doesn't sign the relief bill by the end of today, Saturday.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh look. I won another one.
The silence is deafening.
And you're all far too predictable.
If Trump doesn't sign the federal rescue package by the end of Saturday, it would effectively cut a week of $300 federal unemployment benefits for jobless people, according to Michele Evermore, a policy expert at the National Employment Law Project. Unemployment benefits were supposed to restart December 26. Experts like Evermore say a two-to-three week gap in unemployment benefits is inevitable since states need time to recalibrate their computer systems to send the payments.
States can't provide benefits for weeks before the relief legislation is actually approved. Depending when it's signed, that could put labor agencies on track to restart the payouts during the first week of January. The $300 federal supplement would still end on March 14.
www.businessinsider.com/trump-federal-unemployment-benefits-jobless-wo
rkers-relief-bill-saturday-2020-12
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump will cost jobless workers a week of $300 federal unemployment benefits if he doesn't sign the relief bill by the end of today, Saturday.
False.
As it's written, it's all retroactive. Not to summertime through the end of the year when there weren't any benefits except for the $1,800 that Trump put in unemployed people's pockets, but to the date this new bill starts. Payouts will likely be held up a week, but unless the entire bill implodes and never gets passed, nobody is costing anybody $300.
I'd suggest maybe we stop allowing politicians to bundle shit together, which is a suggestion I've been making in the RWED since I first created an account.
If the Democrats want to give $10 Million to Pakistan for "Gender Issues", they can put that single bill on the floor and vote on it, and then be held accountable by their constituents when their name is on a bill pissing taxpayer dollars away for a Pakistani "Gender Issue" agenda when people here are worried about where their next meal is coming from. No more of this 5,593 page bill bullshit.
And then right now since the unemployment extension and additional payments are not being disputed, if they were their own separate passed bill they wouldn't be hung up when Trump is trying to up the stimulus checks to $2,000 from $600.
Only the absolute dumbest people are going to fall for this line of bullshit, Second.
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Quote:Truth. 6ix, I am looking at the bill.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
False. Only the absolute dumbest people are going to fall for this line of bullshit, Second.
There is deadline of April 5, 2021. After that date, no money.
https://rules.house.gov/sites/democrats.rules.house.gov/files/BILLS-11
6HR133SA-RCP-116-68.pdf
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Quote:And then there is Many jobless Americans will lose benefits unless Trump signs relief bill Saturday.
“(B) Termination.—Notwithstanding any other provision of this subsection, no pandemic unemployment assistance shall be payable for any week beginning after April 5, 2021.”.
(b) Increase in Number of Weeks.—Section 2102(c)(2) of the CARES Act (15 U.S.C. 9021(c)(2)) is amended—
(1) by striking “39 weeks” and inserting “50 weeks”; and
(2) by striking “39-week period” and inserting “50-week period”.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/26/politics/unemployment-benefits-stimulus
-relief-bill/index.html
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Originally posted by second:
6ix, I am looking at the bill.
There is deadline of April 5, 2021. After that date, no money.
So what? It's retroactive to the 25th of December no matter when it actually gets passed (as long as it gets passed). The 13 weeks will be paid out to anybody who was unemployed during that time, even if the bill ends up being held up a month or more. It will all be retroactive. Filers who qualify for the weeks will be asked to file back vouchers for those weeks as soon as it's passed and the state starts paying it out.
So you haven't disproved shit.
Quote:
And then there is Many jobless Americans will lose benefits unless Trump signs relief bill Saturday.
Once again, not lost unless the entire bill implodes and doesn't pass. It's all retroactive.
What part of the word retroactive is it exactly that you don't understand?
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Quote:Unless you found the words "retroactive to the 25th" in the actual bill, rather than in your imagination, you have only bad reasons to believe what you are writing. Are you trying to convince yourself that Trump can delay all he wants and there will be no consequences in total payments to each unemployed? Because that sure looks like what you are doing. The bill clearly says that if it is signed on April 5th, or later, there will be no money.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So what? It's retroactive to the 25th of December no matter when it actually gets passed (as long as it gets passed). The 13 weeks will be paid out to anybody who was unemployed during that time, even if the bill ends up being held up a month or more. It will all be retroactive.
So you haven't disproved shit.
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You've got a lot of experience with unemployment then, do ya? What with those hundreds of millions of tax breaks you got from Trump.
You're wrong. As per usual.
I'm done arguing with you and your agendas about this, stupid.
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P.S. Starting on Page 1934...
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SEC. 203. EXTENSION OF FEDERAL PANDEMIC UNEMPLOY-1MENT COMPENSATION. 2(a) INGENERAL.—Section 2104(e) of the CARES 3Act (15 U.S.C. 9023(e)) is amended to read as follows: 4‘‘(e) APPLICABILITY.—An agreement entered into 5under this section shall apply— 6‘‘(1) to weeks of unemployment beginning after 7the date on which such agreement is entered into 8and ending on or before July 31, 2020; and 9‘‘(2) to weeks of unemployment beginning after 10December 26, 2020 (or, if later, the date on which 11such agreement is entered into), and ending on or 12before March 14, 2021.’’. 13(b) AMOUNT.— 14(1) INGENERAL.—Section 2104(b) of the 15CARES Act (15 U.S.C. 9023(b)) is amended— 16(A) in paragraph (1)(B), by striking ‘‘of 17$600’’ and inserting ‘‘equal to the amount spec-18ified in paragraph (3)’’; and 19(B) by adding at the end the following new 20paragraph: 21‘‘(3) AMOUNT OF FEDERAL PANDEMIC UNEM-22PLOYMENT COMPENSATION.— 23‘‘(A) IN GENERAL.—The amount specified 24in this paragraph is the following amount: 25December 21, 2020 (9:35 a.m.)
12 U:\2021OMNI\14OMNI\DivN—COVIDAuth.xml SEN. APPRO. ‘‘(i) For weeks of unemployment be-1ginning after the date on which an agree-2ment is entered into under this section and 3ending on or before July 31, 2020, $600. 4‘‘(ii) For weeks of unemployment be-5ginning after December 26, 2020 (or, if 6later, the date on which such agreement is 7entered into), and ending on or before 8March 14, 2021, $300.’’. 9(2) TECHNICAL AMENDMENT REGARDING AP-10PLICATION TO SHORT-TIME COMPENSATION PRO-11GRAMS AND AGREEMENTS.—Section 2104(i)(2) of 12the CARES Act (15 U.S.C. 9023(i)(2)) is amend-13ed— 14(A) in subparagraph (C), by striking 15‘‘and’’ at the end; 16(B) in subparagraph (D), by striking the 17period at the end and inserting ‘‘; and’’; and 18(C) by adding at the end the following: 19‘‘(E) short-time compensation under a 20short-time compensation program (as defined in 21section 3306(v) of the Internal Revenue Code of 221986).’’
The only difference between now and the summer is that this specific verbiage was amended to show the additional payments with different amounts between the $600 in the original CARES act and the $300 in the new bill and the beginning and ending dates for weeks that will fall in between these two periods.
This means that aside from the difference in the per-week additional amount being paid out, it will work EXACTLY the same way as it did in the summer when some people had to wait 8 to 10 weeks before they were cleared for payment, at which time they had it all RETROACTIVELY deposited for all of the weeks they were unemployed once the systems were updated by the state to allow filing for multiple back weeks that they were unemployed between the start and end dates specified in the bill.
So yes. Once again, I'm correct and you don't have any idea what the fuck you're talking about.
I suggest you go write a shitty letter to CNN now and let them know that you're embarrassed for sounding like an asshole because you read and quote their fictional stories that aren't vetted before cashing in on ad revenue.
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Read it again, 6ix:
“(ii) For weeks of unemployment beginning after December 26, 2020 (or, if later, the date on which such agreement is entered into), and ending on or before March 14, 2021, $300.”
We are arguing about what is the meaning of the words "the date on which such agreement is entered into". I think it means the date Trump signs the bill.
The weeks are counted starting when the bill is signed, not started from Dec 26th. If Trump signed on March 14th, and you had been unemployed since November, you get zero weeks times $300 = $0.
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Originally posted by second:
Read it again, 6ix:
“(ii) For weeks of unemployment beginning after December 26, 2020 (or, if later, the date on which such agreement is entered into), and ending on or before March 14, 2021, $300.”
We are arguing about what is the meaning of the words "the date on which such agreement is entered into". I think it means the date Trump signs the bill.
The weeks are counted starting when the bill is signed, not started from Dec 26th. If Trump signed on March 14th, and you had been unemployed since November, you get zero weeks times $300 = $0.
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That's what you think, but it's not what it means.
The "agreement" is referencing when (and if) the individual states agree to receive the additional funding. Like anything else, there's strings attached with free money. But it is highly unlikely that any states are going to turn it down and see their politicians get voted out of office for it.
This bill, just like the CARES act, does not guaranty the money to individuals for unemployment directly. That has to go through each individual state legislature before it becomes part of their UI payouts, and they don't have to agree to the full amount of weeks to cover it either.
Unless you're able to provide any evidence to the contrary, it should be assumed that the terms for the "agreement" with the states and the Federal government are to be retroactive to the dates provided in the bill just as they will be with individual filers after the "agreement" is made and the back dated vouchers become available online for the individuals, no matter when this bill is officially passed.
I think you'll have a hard time finding a single self-referential instance in history where one line in one section of a 5,593 page bill calls the entire bill an "agreement" within the bill itself, such as you propose is the case here.
Good luck trying though.
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Interesting...
It seems that the disinformation about the verbiage of the bill and the claim that everyone is going to lose one week of unemployment can be traced back to one Alan Rappeport at NYT.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201226152740/https://www.nytimes.com/202
0/12/25/us/politics/unemployment-pandemic-aid-trump.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
Quote:
Further delays could prove more costly. States cannot pay out benefits for weeks that begin before the bill is signed, meaning that if the president does not sign the bill by Saturday, benefits will not restart until the first week of January. But they will still end in mid-March, effectively trimming the extension to 10 weeks from 11.
He provides zero evidence for this claim, and nothing in the bill itself backs this up. He just makes the claim with confidence, and other outlets like CNN and Forbes have since run with this claim and nobody seems to have done any fact checking.
Not one single politician, judge or lawyer has weighed in on this subject. Just the asshole press and their ignorance spreading it around while the politicians are all on their 15th break for the year.
My real question here is, if there was any truth at all to this story that the media is running with then where the hell is congress?
It would appear that 12 Million American people losing an additional $300 wasn't worth them missing out on their family Christmas party during the same year that they terrified and shamed millions more Americans not to celebrate the holidays with the people that they love.
Either that, or the story is pure fiction.
I'm sticking with number two, but either way just shows off how broken our country is.
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Trump just cost jobless workers one week of federal unemployment assistance after he failed to sign the relief bill by midnight on Saturday.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-just-cost-jobless-workers-one-we
ek-of-unemployment-benefits-2020-12
President Donald Trump did not sign the latest coronavirus relief legislation before midnight on Saturday, costing jobless workers one week of $300 federal unemployment benefits.
State agencies can only distribute benefits for weeks the bill is enacted, meaning the delay could cause the unemployment benefits to be distributed for 10 weeks instead of the intended 11.
About 14 million Americans have also lost unemployment benefits, as two federal programs expired on Saturday.
Oblivious Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted
$2000 + $2000 plus other family members. Not $600. Remember, it was China’s fault!
8:56 PM · Dec 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1343027900740734976
If Trump can get Congress to rewrite the bill using $2,000 where it now says $600, then it will be trivial for Trump to also get the bill rewritten to match 6ixStringJack's interpretation of how many weeks of $300 unemployment compensation.
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Originally posted by second:
If Trump can get Congress to rewrite the bill using $2,000 where it now says $600, then it will be trivial for Trump to also get the bill rewritten to match 6ixStringJack's interpretation of how many weeks of $300 unemployment compensation.
Not one single person who is qualified to speak on the issue has said that anybody will end up losing $300. Only "journalists" from left wing news sources have said it.
It doesn't need to be changed to match my interpretation of the bill. My interpretation is already correct.
But sure... Even a massive 5,593 page document can be altered in M$ Word or a free equivalent with about 3 minutes free time to dumb down the legalese so a moron like you can read it.
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Quote:The tricky part is not the work of altering the document to please yourself, 6ix. What is tricky is tricking this location to substitute your altered document, the imaginary one in your head, for the original. https://rules.house.gov/sites/democrats.rules.house.gov/files/BILLS-11
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
If Trump can get Congress to rewrite the bill using $2,000 where it now says $600, then it will be trivial for Trump to also get the bill rewritten to match 6ixStringJack's interpretation of how many weeks of $300 unemployment compensation.
Not one single person who is qualified to speak on the issue has said that anybody will end up losing $300. Only "journalists" from left wing news sources have said it.
It doesn't need to be changed to match my interpretation of the bill. My interpretation is already correct.
But sure... Even a massive 5,593 page document can be altered in M$ Word or a free equivalent with about 3 minutes free time to dumb down the legalese so a moron like you can read it.
6HR133SA-RCP-116-68.pdf
The person you really and truly need to trick into believing your interpretation of who gets how many weeks of $300, 6ix, is whoever the Treasurer is when some version of this document is signed by either Trump or Biden. Good luck with that, 6ix! The Treasurer won't be easy for you to trick, plus there will be lawyers and accountants looking over the document. You won't be able to trick them, either, 6ix.
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Originally posted by second:
The tricky part is not the work of altering the document to please yourself, 6ix.
Not to please me. I'm already right in my interpretation, and the document doesn't need to be changed.
It's unfortunate that nobody in the Legacy Media is going to be held accountable and lose their job for propagating this lie once the kids in Congress come back from Christmas break and set the record straight.
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Quote:6ix, find several examples in the NON Legacy Media agreeing with you. I can't find them. Maybe there is a conspiracy where google refuses to index those examples. I want to see how believable the NON Legacy Media stories, debunking the lies, are. Please help me, 6ix.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The tricky part is not the work of altering the document to please yourself, 6ix.
Not to please me. I'm already right in my interpretation, and the document doesn't need to be changed.
It's unfortunate that nobody in the Legacy Media is going to be held accountable and lose their job for propagating this lie once the kids in Congress come back from Christmas break and set the record straight.
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If Trump does not sign the relief bill by the end of day Saturday, it will effectively cut the extra $300 weekly federal unemployment benefit from 11 weeks to 10 weeks at most.
Here’s why.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharziv/2020/12/26/if-trump-doesnt-sign
-new-stimulus-bill-today-extra-300-in-unemployment-will-not-start-until-at-least-january-and-will-be-cut-from-11-weeks/?sh=718a64382623
Congress could have put in a provision that made the $300 weekly payments retroactive to December 26, but ultimately did not. While the second version of the Heroes Act that the House had passed “would have allowed for retroactive payments,” Evermore told me, it did not make it into the final version of the bill that was passed by the House and Senate. Therefore, if Trump delays, there won’t be $300 payments retroactive to before the bill was signed, unless separate legislation is passed.
One might imagine that Congress did not anticipate the President to derail the bill and, therefore, saw no need to put in a retroactive clause; however, given Trump’s latest comments, omitting that clause may have a material impact on millions of Americans. “Donald Trump’s temper tantrum is threatening to cost millions of jobless workers a week’s worth of income,” said Senator Ron Wyden (D-Oregon). “The ability of millions of Americans to pay rent and buy groceries hangs in the balance, and Donald Trump spent the day golfing. It’s shameful.”
With the current language in the stimulus bill, Trump is effectively cutting stimulus aid for unemployed individuals by at least $300 if he doesn’t sign today, assuming he eventually does sign.
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I guaranty you, absolutely 100% fact, that this will not go down as you say it will.
Even if I were wrong in my interpretation, anybody who didn't approve making it retroactive would be shooting themselves in the foot and likely be ending their own political career.
Trump hasn't cut any unemployment benefits here. There is a zero probability that this will happen either way.
Besides... your dumb ass still thinks that the "agreement" means when Trump decides to sign the document.
You're a retard.
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Quote:Only 24 more days of Trump the President. If he doesn't sign anything, hold any meetings, or show up for the Inauguration, America will be better for Trump doing nothing.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I guaranty you, absolutely 100% fact, that this will not go down as you say it will.
Even if I were wrong in my interpretation, anybody who didn't approve making it retroactive would be shooting themselves in the foot and likely be ending their own political career.
Trump hasn't cut any unemployment benefits here. There is a zero probability that this will happen either way.
Besides... your dumb ass still thinks that the "agreement" means when Trump decides to sign the document.
You're a retard.
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T09&p0=9
00&msg=Inauguration+2021&font=sanserif
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Good news on Covid Relief Bill. Information to follow!
5:21 PM · Dec 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1343336121040777217
Similarly, he tweeted, (but nothing followed):
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
See you in Washington, DC, on January 6th. Don’t miss it. Information to follow!
4:51 PM · Dec 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1343328708963299338
Information to follow!
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Only 24 more days of Trump the President. If he doesn't sign anything, hold any meetings, or show up for the Inauguration, America will be better for Trump doing nothing.
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T09&p0=9
00&msg=Inauguration+2021&font=sanserif
Yeah. Except for those 12 Million Americans you've been pretending to give a shit about the last few days.
Pick a stance and stick with it, jellyspine.
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Stop playing games, Fatso, and sign it: Trump signs coronavirus relief and government funding bill into law after lengthy delay
However, because Trump did not sign the bill on Saturday, those in the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance and the Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation programs will likely not receive a payment for the final week of the year. And the $300 federal enhancement may only last 10 weeks instead of 11 weeks for most folks. That's because states can't provide benefits for weeks that start before programs are authorized, but the legislation calls for the extra payments to end on March 14.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/27/politics/trump-relief-bill-christmas-ev
e/index.html
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However, because Trump did not sign the bill on Saturday, those in the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance and the Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation programs will likely not receive a payment for the final week of the year. And the $300 federal enhancement may only last 10 weeks instead of 11 weeks for most folks. That's because states can't provide benefits for weeks that start before programs are authorized, but the legislation calls for the extra payments to end on March 14.
"likely not"?
"may only"?
That sure is a far cry from the certainty they stated this with yesterday, huh?
Look at the dummies already backpeadling.
Still give the Trump haters another day of hating Trump for another falsehood, but also gives the Legacy Media the wiggle room they need to back out of this and take no accountability for lying.
And it's because of assholes like you that won't call them on it that they can continually get away with this. Way to go, asshole.
They either lied, or they're completely incompetent at their jobs and should be fired and replaced with people who know what the fuck they're talking about.
Demand more from your Media.
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Quote:6ix, Trump voters get carried away with making excuses for Fatso. He wanted to make Covid-19 relief all about himself. That's why his demands for $2,000 were known after it was too late. That's why he wouldn't give a straight answer about whether he vetoes the bill or not. That's why he delayed signing. The Fat Clown wants drama and conflict and the media attention focused on himself while the whole world waits until after Christmas for their money. It will be next year before they get $300, thanks to Trump's antics.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
However, because Trump did not sign the bill on Saturday, those in the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance and the Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation programs will likely not receive a payment for the final week of the year. And the $300 federal enhancement may only last 10 weeks instead of 11 weeks for most folks. That's because states can't provide benefits for weeks that start before programs are authorized, but the legislation calls for the extra payments to end on March 14.
"likely not"?
"may only"?
That sure is a far cry from the certainty they stated this with yesterday, huh?
Look at the dummies already backpeadling.
Still give the Trump haters another day of hating Trump for another falsehood, but also gives the Legacy Media the wiggle room they need to back out of this and take no accountability for lying.
And it's because of assholes like you that won't call them on it that they can continually get away with this. Way to go, asshole.
They either lied, or they're completely incompetent at their jobs and should be fired and replaced with people who know what the fuck they're talking about.
Demand more from your Media.
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It was going to be next year before they got it regardless. It took states 6 to 10 weeks before they started paying out the $600. It took 2 to 6 weeks before they paid out the $300 LWA.
You've got a problem with one week now, but you didn't seem to have any problem with Congress letting the expanded benefits expire on July 29th and then doing nothing about it for FIVE MONTHS.
The only person in the country who did anything for the unemployed during that time was Trump. Both the House and the Senate have been on 4 spring breaks during that time.
It must be nice to work half the business days in any calendar year and make that salary with the best healthcare taxpayer dollars can buy in retirement. Even nicer if you can build your net worth to $200,000,000 like Nancy did and you can stock up your $24,000 refrigerator with Dove Bars when the plandemic hits.
You're a tool.
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Quote:You're a fool if you don't recognize that Mitch McConnell rushed to save his Senators, but left Trump Twisting in the Wind just before the election.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're a tool.
McConnell is trying to protect Sens. Loeffler and Perdue after he’s gotten nearly everything he could out of Trump.
There was one major thing that would go a long way to delivering four more years for Trump, and that was a round of Covid-19 relief in the weeks before the election, complete with checks destined for voters. Given that a swing of fewer than 100,000 votes in the right states would have flipped the election to Trump, it’s fair to say that such a stimulus could indeed have turned the tide for Trump.
Yet McConnell stood in the way. We now know with certainty that the Senate majority leader is well aware of the political value of stimulus checks. So McConnell bent to political reality, finally doing what he hadn’t done for Trump. It was a price he was willing to pay for two Georgian Senators in a run off election to keep control of the Senate. Why wouldn’t he pay the same price to keep control of the White House? The option was available to him. Even if Democratic leaders would have preferred to pass the stimulus after the election, their obstruction beforehand would either have been politically untenable or, if held firm, politically suicidal.
So McConnell had the option to press the button, and he knew the button would help Trump, yet he didn’t press it. The only reasonable conclusion that can be drawn is that McConnell did not want to help Trump win.
The calculation looks more and more reasonable the further it’s interrogated, and Trump’s chaotic response to passage of the latest Covid-19 stimulus is McConnell’s worst fear coming true.
From McConnell’s perspective, he has gotten nearly everything he could out of Trump: three Supreme Court justices, control of the federal judiciary, sweeping deregulation, and trillions in tax cuts. Yet for McConnell, dealing with Trump is also a daily humiliation, like being charged with babysitting a toddler who has been told by his parents that he’s the boss. What could Trump do for McConnell in a second term that would be worth the headache? And aside from the degradation, Trump represents a threat to McConnell’s vision of the Republican Party as a coalition led by billionaires and supported by the white working class. In Trump’s party, politicians like McConnell would not lead, but would be at the whim of the QAnon-inspired masses.
With Trump gone, McConnell becomes the most powerful Republican in the party again and, on some days, the most powerful politician in the country.
The future is also likely better for congressional Republicans under Biden than under Trump. Republicans are expecting to make gains in the House in 2022, enough to win control of the chamber. With Trump in the White House in 2022, Democrats would likely be more fired up to resist him, giving them a better chance of winning the Senate and holding the House. If Biden’s transition is any guide to his presidency, his insistence on working with Republicans and refusal to use executive action will make GOP pickups more likely, damage the Democratic brand, and pave the way for Republicans to win back unified control of Washington in 2024 — by which time there will be more judicial vacancies to fill, more regulations to undo, and more taxes to cut. And, if McConnell has his way, this time he’ll be able to do it all without having to smile next to Trump.
More at https://theintercept.com/2020/12/28/mcconnell-trump-election/
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Today, Trump attacking Mitch McConnell, without using the Senate Leader’s name:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Weak and tired Republican “leadership” will allow the bad Defense Bill to pass. Say goodbye to VITAL Section 230 termination, your National Monuments, Forts (names!) and Treasures (inserted by Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren), 5G, and our great soldiers being removed and brought home from foreign lands who do NOTHING for us. A disgraceful act of cowardice and total submission by weak people to Big Tech. Negotiate a better Bill, or get better leaders, NOW! Senate should not approve NDAA until fixed!!!
7:45 AM · Dec 29, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1343915971480842240
The abbreviation Trump used, NDAA, means H.R.6395 - National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6395/actions
Congress has been trying to get Trump sign this since before Covid-19 Relief.
Trump is angry that Mitch tricked him into signing the Covid-19 Relief bill on Sunday. Trump would love to unsign what he signed, but it is too late, the Constitution doesn't allow that. Now he is even more angry that Mitch won't need his signature on Defense spending because the Senate will probably over-ride Trump's veto. Trump badly wants the names of Civil War traitors to remain on signs at military bases:
Fort Benning (Georgia) ...
Fort Lee (Virginia) ...
Fort Bragg (North Carolina) ...
Fort Hood (Texas) ...
Fort Gordon (Georgia) ...
Fort Pickett (Virginia) ...
Fort Rucker (Alabama) ...
Camp Beauregard (Louisiana) ...
www.military.com/off-duty/10-much-better-names-army-bases-honoring-con
federate-generals.html
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They weren't traitors. They were just the losers.
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Quote:Since Pres. Andrew Johnson pardoned every man in the Confederacy, but first and foremost those who paid him a bribe, nobody hanged for treason. Robert E. Lee did not immediately resign from the US Army to join the Confederacy. He gave it long and careful thought, understanding perfectly well that he was breaking all the oaths he had sworn to preserve the Constitution and protect the United States of America. Unlike many Southerners who expected a glorious war, Lee correctly predicted it as protracted and devastating. He privately opposed the new Confederate States of America in letters in early 1861, denouncing secession as "nothing but revolution" and an unconstitutional betrayal of the efforts of the Founding Fathers. Fort Lee is named for Robert E. Lee, the traitor that didn't hang, thanks to a sneaky President who gives pardons in exchange for bribes.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They weren't traitors. They were just the losers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee#Resignation_from_United_St
ates_Army
Only one person has ever been executed for treason against the federal government: William Bruce Mumford, who was convicted of treason and hanged in 1862 for tearing down a United States flag during the American Civil War. However, this was under martial law, not Article Three of the United States Constitution. Clearly, the US legal system has a problem enforcing the law punishing citizens for going to war against the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_States
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Watch McConnell block effort to quickly increase stimulus checks.
In the video, Bernie talks and talks then Mitch nullifies what Bernie said with two words: "I object." Game Over. Mitch Wins. Bernie & Trump & all the Democrats lose. They wanted $2,000 and they're never gonna get it so long as Mitch can say "I object" as Majority Party leader in the Senate. Mitch keeps winning until BOTH Georgia Senators lose runoff elections. That's the rules.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) blocked an effort to quickly pass a measure to increase direct stimulus payments from $600 to $2,000, though the legislation could be voted on at a later time or date if McConnell so chooses.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/29/mitch-mcconnell-blocks-
stimulus-checks-increase-vpx.cnn
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but first and foremost those who paid him a bribe,
How many bribes did Barry get for busting all those meth dealers out of prison?
Or can you think of another reason why they were on his pardon list of just under 2,000 shady ass people?
Quote:
Clearly, the US legal system has a problem enforcing the law punishing citizens for going to war against the US.
Yup. That's why your alter-ego Marcos feels emboldened to be a traitor to the country.
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[PLACEHOLDER FOR COLLECTING ALL OF SECOND'S INCORRECT POSTS ON THE MATTER AS WELL AS ALL OF THE LINKS TO LEGACY MEDIA BULLSHIT, UNVETTED FICTION]
https://fortune.com/2020/12/29/stimulus-update-trump-sign-bill-unemplo
yment-benefits-not-delayed/
"Trump’s delayed signing of the new relief bill won’t create a loss of unemployment payments after all"
Quote:
Now, the U.S. Labor Department and several states have indicated that there should be no gap in those benefits. The Labor Department said that it “does not anticipate that eligible claimants will miss a week of benefits due to the timing of the law’s enactment” in a statement to CNBC.
So far Rhode Island, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, California, and Washington State have said there will be no gap week for their unemployment recipients. More states are expected to make the same confirmation. Those payments may still arrive late because of the time needed to update state systems, but late payments will include retroactive payments for prior weeks.
Yup.
That's right.
Just like I said all along. Word for fucking word.
Time for you to shut the fuck up again, huh Second?
But what do I know? I'm just some dumb redneck who failed out of college twice.
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From the same article...
https://fortune.com/2020/12/29/stimulus-update-trump-sign-bill-unemplo
yment-benefits-not-delayed/
Quote:
Policy experts had warned that by approving the new relief package after Dec. 26, Trump would create a “gap week” for recipients of PUA and PEUC because states could not pay benefits for weeks that began after the bill was signed. It’s not currently clear what changes have been made to circumvent that obstacle.
There weren't any changes, fuckwits.
In order for a CHANGE to have been made now, they would have had to re-pass the 5,593 page bill that took months to pass once in the House and Senate.
YOU DONE FUCKED UP.
Your TDS got away from you again, and one asshole from the New York Times (See: Alan Rappeport) wrote a fictional story on Christmas Day and you all ran with it to sell boner pills and car insurance.
Fucking own your fuckups for once, and maybe people will trust what you have to say in the future, mkay?
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Just because it's super funny to read this exchange now...
Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, find several examples in the NON Legacy Media agreeing with you. I can't find them. Maybe there is a conspiracy where google refuses to index those examples. I want to see how believable the NON Legacy Media stories, debunking the lies, are. Please help me, 6ix.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The tricky part is not the work of altering the document to please yourself, 6ix.
Not to please me. I'm already right in my interpretation, and the document doesn't need to be changed.
It's unfortunate that nobody in the Legacy Media is going to be held accountable and lose their job for propagating this lie once the kids in Congress come back from Christmas break and set the record straight.
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Still need help, buddy?
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See Cap'n Cuckklefuck?
Look at Second ducking out of yet another thread.
This is what YOU do ALL THE TIME, because I hand your ass to you ALL THE TIME.
It's sad though...
Here we've got a Perfect example of how the Legacy Media propagates a lie. From following it back to the exact source of the initial lie, all the way to the LM who's already made their ad revenue using throwaway comments to kick the accountability can down the road...
Nobody will be held accountable, a week from now nobody will even remember any of this took place, and not a single lesson is going to be learned here by anyone who didn't already know it.
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The lesson continues...
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
6ix, find several examples in the NON Legacy Media agreeing with you. I can't find them. Maybe there is a conspiracy where google refuses to index those examples. I want to see how believable the NON Legacy Media stories, debunking the lies, are. Please help me, 6ix.
Do a google search for "Unemployment Congress" without the quotes.
Top Stories:
From 3 Days Ago: https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/millions-lose-unemployment-benefits-as-c
ovid-19-bill-stalls/
From 3 Days Ago: https://thehill.com/homenews/531725-unemployment-benefits-lapse-with-s
timulus-bill-stuck-in-limbo
From 2 Days Ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/27/us/politics/trump-signs-pandemic-re
lief.html
That's right.
If you want the truth about this and aren't just looking for another lie to hate Trump for based off of old articles that are lies based off of an older article that was a lie (and zero retractions on any of these yet, BTW...), you have to manually click on the "Tools" button under the search, and change "Any Time" to "Past 24 Hours" if you want to see a current story on it.
Most people who look up the status of Unemployment after the bill is signed on Google are still going to walk away thinking that Trump just cost them at least $300 after reading fiction from days ago.
Convenient lapse in the judgement of Google A.I., don'tcha think?
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Where you at, bitch?
What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
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Quote:6ix, you write too much and understand too little.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Where you at, bitch?
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell introduced a bill Tuesday linking $2,000 stimulus checks to a repeal of Section 230 and the creation of a new commission to study election fraud, a move likely to doom the increased direct payments.
If Republicans actually disagreed with Mitch, they'd replace him as majority leader. McConnell is nothing more than a scapegoat shielding the party from wildly unpopular policies.
Thank you Mitch McConnell for making it explicitly clear that if Georgia votes in Democrats Ossoff and Warnock, we will all get $2,000 in 3 weeks, and if they do not then we will get nothing for the next six years.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you write too much and understand too little.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Where you at, bitch?
Bullshit. I was absolutely right about everything.
Don't come in here and tell me I was wrong and then try to change the subject.
This is a thread about Unemployment. It has nothing to do with stimulus checks.
So you either tell me that I as right and acknowledge that your Legacy Media is full of shit, or you can go fuck off.
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Quote:Will that be carved on your headstone? I've heard that from too many Republicans who are now dead because they weren't absolutely right when being a little wrong would kill them.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I was absolutely right about everything.
Mitch McConnell has pitted himself against Trump during the president's final days in office
www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-pits-himself-against-trump-dur
ing-final-days-office-2020-12
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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We were going to cut those $1,400 stimulus checks we used to buy votes in Georgia, but then we realized that quite a few of us would probably go to prison if we wrote those $1,400 stimulus checks we used to buy votes in Georgia.
LOOK OVER THERE! IMPEACHMENT!
lol
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Will that be carved on your headstone? I've heard that from too many Republicans who are now dead because they weren't absolutely right when being a little wrong would kill them.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I was absolutely right about everything.
Mitch McConnell has pitted himself against Trump during the president's final days in office
www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-pits-himself-against-trump-dur
ing-final-days-office-2020-12
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
lol
I'm not going anywhere, bruh.
Assuming that you actually lived during Nam, you're on your way out the door.
I can only imagine what the people that know you are going to put on your headstone when Covid gets you.
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