What Socialist agendas DO conservatives think are intended by liberals?
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UPDATED: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 21:08
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*What DOES modern Socialism mean to you?*
All I hear is Socialist paranoia from the right, but I never hear what specific things they think are ACTUALLY possibly going to happen and why it would be the worst ideas ever?
ONE TOPIC PER POST WITH ANY *ACTUAL EVIDENCE* it would be a possibility.
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This has been addresed in many threads on this forum already.
Some people have referenced "cultural Marxism".
Others have pointed to centralized (globalized) non-democratic government control of everything.
Neither one sounds like a good endpoint.
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This has been addresed in many threads on this forum already.
Some people have referenced "cultural Marxism".
Others have pointed to centralized (globalized) non-democratic government control of everything.
Neither one sounds like a good endpoint.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Now, for the class, tell us what "cultural Marxism" is.
Is it this? ^
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Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
AOC - "Also the idea that Socialists like Dems... lol".
First honest thing AOC has said.
I'll refer you to the post I made the other day about how a Biden win is going to be great when
the Democrats realize they're 3 parties in one and they hate each other.
That's going to happen eventually one day no matter what, but with 4 more years of Trump
they won't figure out that lesson until at least 2024.
That being said, Nilbog's entire thread premise is a misnomer.
True Liberals don't push Socialist agendas. Socialists and Communists push Socialist agendas. The
former pushing exactly what they want, while the latter pushes what they think they can get
away with now in America.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:The know-nothing again demonstrates that he knows nothing. Good job with that smooth brain, bruh.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
AOC - "Also the idea that Socialists like Dems... lol".
First honest thing AOC has said.
I'll refer you to the post I made the other day about how a Biden win is going to be great when
the Democrats realize they're 3 parties in one and they hate each other.
That's going to happen eventually one day no matter what, but with 4 more years of Trump
they won't figure out that lesson until at least 2024.
That being said, Nilbog's entire thread premise is a misnomer.
True Liberals don't push Socialist agendas. Socialists and Communists push Socialist agendas. The
former pushing exactly what they want, while the latter pushes what they think they can get
away with now in America.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This has been addresed in many threads on this forum already.
Some people have referenced "cultural Marxism".
Others have pointed to centralized (globalized) non-democratic government control of everything.
Neither one sounds like a good endpoint.
SIG, ever the student of Trump
"This has been addressed elsewhere" = misdirection = "I have no clue."
Classic Trumpisms: "Some people..." & "Others have..." Who are these people?
EX: "Most people say SIGNYM is a liar and a fraud."
"Neither one sounds like a good endpoint." = "I have no clue."
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Quote:I agree that it's a misnomer.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
AOC - "Also the idea that Socialists like Dems... lol".
First honest thing AOC has said.
I'll refer you to the post I made the other day about how a Biden win is going to be great when
the Democrats realize they're 3 parties in one and they hate each other.
That's going to happen eventually one day no matter what, but with 4 more years of Trump
they won't figure out that lesson until at least 2024.
That being said, Nilbog's entire thread premise is a misnomer.
True Liberals don't push Socialist agendas. Socialists and Communists push Socialist agendas. The former pushing exactly what they want, while the latter pushes what they think they can get away with now in America.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
What the DNC is pushing for is FASCISM ... government in service to corporations. While some say that Trump is pushing the same idea, they (Trump, DNC) differ on WHICH corporations they back... The DNC is wedded to the biggest transnationals (banks, big tech, big pharma... also NATO and the international spook agencies thru which they mold foreign governments and policies) and eager to place regulation of these transnational actors into secret foreign trade tribunals... hence, Bill and Obama's urge to ratify all of those "free trade" agreements (WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA, TTP, TTIP). Also Bill's eagerness to reduce regulations on banking, monopolies (including media monopolies), and his support of "intellectual property" (DMCA) and Obama showering money on the banks, protecting bankers from prosecution, being joined at the hip with the NSA (with all its illegal surveillance) and the CIA and all of his "secret wars", and the ACA being a big wet smooch to big pharma.
Trump, OTOH, is closer to the military industrial complex, seeks to reduce our entanglement with China and NATO, wants to promote what HE thinks is "American business", and keep our sovereign powers safe by keeping economic and military decision-making at home.
I kinda cringe when I hear libertarians call every DNC idea "socialist" or "communist" or "Marxist" ... clearly, they don't know what any of those are. More accurate descriptions would be "Trotskyist" or "fascist"
Anyway, WISHY, to be specific, what I expect under a DNC reign is
More "free trade" agreements
Re-entanglemnt with NATO
More "secret" foreign destabilizations conducted by the State Dept, the CIA, and cooperating NGOs, with "allied" military involvement where necessary
An attempt to change the entire election process (Electoral College, adding DC as a 51st state, reducing ID requirements at the polls etc) to ensure a permanent DNC dominnce (altho this may be blunted by the Supreme Court)
Some money "giveaway" program* where (just like the CARES Act) 80% will go to the biggest businesses, and continued reliance on "The Fed" to loan money to a broke government.
*It could be "reparations", limited UBI, ACA "reform", Covid-relief, or some combination. But follow the money, it won't go to "the people" but to banks and monopolies
There will be nothing in there about meaningful jobs at living wages, defending our Constitutional rights, defending American sovereign rights, or anything like that.
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Quote:GSTRING, there was a fairly lengthy discussion of "cultural marxism" ... I believe you may have even participated. And, of course, I have discussed globalization ad nauseum. I'm sorry for you if your memory is worse than Joe Biden's, but I'm sure everyone else remembers the discussions.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This has been addresed in many threads on this forum already.
Some people have referenced "cultural Marxism".
Others have pointed to centralized (globalized) non-democratic government control of everything.
Neither one sounds like a good endpoint.
SIG, ever the student of Trump
"This has been addressed elsewhere" = misdirection = "I have no clue."
Quote:SIX and I had a long discussion about cultural Marxism, and I persoanlly have posted multiple times about globalism... free trade agreements and their trade tribunals etc. Like I said, too bad for you that your memory islike Swiss cheese, but others remember those discussions even if you don't.
Classic Trumpisms: "Some people..." & "Others have..." Who are these people?
Quote:I am posting, as WISHY requested, EXACTLY and in detail what I expect from a DNC win.
"Neither one sounds like a good endpoint." = "I have no clue."
Unlike you, I DO have a clue.
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