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THG
Sunday, October 4, 2020 7:03 PM

Great video second. As for the republican's blocking what Biden tries to do. You have a point. Still,
there is an issue present in this election.
T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


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What is America really fighting over in the upcoming election? No particular issue. Not even Democrats versus Republicans.

The central fight is over Donald J. Trump.



The election is about whether or not we have Trumps, 'Jacks' vision of America, or Biden's.

I choose Biden's vision.

We will NOT get Biden's vision because the Republicans in the Federal Courts and Republicans left in the Senate will stop him cold, but at least we will be rid of fat dumb Trump and his forever flapping mouth. Maybe there will be a little entertainment from fatso fighting the IRS. Maybe fatso will start a new political party and all the Trump lovers will flock to it, abandoning the GOP to actual Conservatives.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



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Sunday, October 4, 2020 8:11 PM




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Sunday, October 4, 2020 9:01 PM

Someone really doesn't like the Mattress Firm.

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Sunday, October 4, 2020 9:14 PM



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosh_V


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Sunday, October 4, 2020 9:46 PM




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Monday, October 5, 2020 3:53 PM

'Emperor has no clothes': man who helped make Trump myth says facade has fallen

Tony Schwartz, who ghostwrote The Art of the Deal, says nothing is more important to the president than ‘being seen as very, very rich’ – but revelations about his finances have shattered that image.

One man was not surprised by revelations that Donald Trump does not deserve his reputation as a preternaturally successful businessman and deal maker. The man who helped create the illusion.

Tony Schwartz spent hundreds of hours with Trump to ghostwrite his bestselling 1987 book The Art of the Deal, effectively creating the origin story of the brash property tycoon. It was Schwartz who coined the phrase “truthful hyperbole”, which neatly foreshadowed Trump and his supporters’ attempts to rationalize many of his false and misleading claims.

“The Art of the Deal helped him to be able to fabricate a fantasy reality that he has propagated for all of the years since. I came out of that book feeling empty and ashamed, really questioning myself about why I made that choice and who’s the monster I’ve created here?”

The 68-year-old writer has long disowned the president as a malignant narcissist and expressed regret for his part in constructing the mythology. So the New York Times report, detailing chronic financial losses and vast outstanding loans, confirmed his view that Trump was always better at cutting fantasy deals than making real ones.

“It’s the ultimate unmasking of the emperor with no clothes,” Schwartz said. “There’s nothing more important to Trump than being seen as very, very rich, which is why he’s expended so much effort in trying to claim a net worth far beyond what he actually was worth.

“The fact the evidence is unequivocal that he was not the person he claimed to be means that he’s lost the central premise on which he’s based his own self-worth, because Trump confuses personal worth with net worth. There’s nothing Trump hates more than to feel weak and vulnerable and like a failure, so he won’t allow himself to acknowledge those feelings, but they’ll be there and they will affect him.

“Unfortunately, should he be re-elected, one of the ways he’ll respond to that is he’ll take it out on everyone who he thinks diminished or belittled him along the way.”

Trump has spent months seeking to discredit the legitimacy of the election, making baseless claims that mail-in ballots are plagued by fraud. Last week he refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. Like dictators across the world, he may fear prosecution over his financial affairs if he leaves office – making him even more determined to cling to power.

“With the release of his taxes and the prospect that he would be indicted even greater than it was before, he doesn’t really have a place where he’s safe other than being president,”
Schwartz said.

More at www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/04/donald-trump-tony-schwartz-int
erview-art-of-the-deal


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 5, 2020 4:10 PM

Republicans gripped by dread as multiple crises swirl

The presidency, control of the Senate and even a quick confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett are all in doubt less than a month from the election.

The virus has forced six Republican senators — three who have tested positive for covid — into quarantine for at least two weeks. Two of them, Thom Tillis and Mike Lee, are on the Senate Judiciary Committee, which Graham chairs. His plans to push through the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett were now uncertain. Mitch McConnell said over the weekend that “our biggest enemy” is “the coronavirus, keeping everybody healthy and well and in place to do our job.”

Trump’s Republican critics have long argued that he was a virus infecting their party that would eventually destroy it. Trump skeptics-turned-supporters, which could describe most Washington Republicans, made a different calculation: If the worst elements of Trump could be contained, then Republicans could keep a Democrat out of the White House.

That an actual virus has now infected Trump and GOP senators — many of them at a celebration of Barrett’s nomination — thus throwing all three of the GOP’s 2020 goals into chaos, is a plot twist that would be rejected by any writer as just a little too on the nose.

“Trump has done more to derail the Barrett nomination than any Democrat,” said one dejected former senior White House official. “They are screwing themselves, that’s for sure.”

Republicans, used to seeing Trump slip out of hairy situations that would destroy most politicians — the Access Hollywood tape, impeachment — practically yawn at the turn of events. “We’ve seen that time after time,” said a White House official discussing whether this would blow over. “I don’t know if this would be any different but we’ll see.”

On the other side of the spectrum, many Republicans said the reckless way in which Trump traveled, held big rallies, and refused to consistently wear a mask or encourage his supporters to do so as catastrophic.

“Today feels like the election’s over,” said a veteran Republican strategist who, like others in the party, requested anonymity to speak candidly. “The polls have dropped all last week everywhere, it just feels like the end is near. And I don’t know what they can do to rehabilitate it until he gets better. There’s too many seniors who think he’s been irresponsible and this all started when he politicized the coronavirus. It started back in April and May, but it’s really peaking now.”

There is a scenario that he believed would crush the GOP on Nov. 3.

“If the White House lied about the timeline and he went to events and was around people knowing he was covid-positive,” he said. “I think that is the single biggest thing that would resonate with regular people in terms of how irresponsible he was — if he put other people in danger.”

He added, “That could turn this into a death spiral.”


www.politico.com/news/2020/10/05/republicans-dread-coronavirus-infecti
ons-426351


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 5, 2020 6:59 PM

Still posting your wet dreams, I see.

I can smell your desperation from Texas.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 5, 2020 7:10 PM

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Still posting your wet dreams, I see.

I can smell your desperation from Texas.

My dream is that Trump is reelected so that I can keep my enormous tax cuts, but he is on a ventilator 24/7 for the next 4 years with Melania acting as the real President, signing his name because he is too weak to hold a pen, on bills passed by Nancy Pelosi.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Monday, October 5, 2020 7:29 PM

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.




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Monday, October 5, 2020 7:36 PM

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Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:18 PM

Bidencare Would Be a Big Deal

Don’t dismiss it because it isn’t Medicare for All.

While Biden is indeed proposing incremental change rather than Medicare for All, we’re talking about some big increments. Independent estimates suggest that under Biden’s plan, 15 million to 20 million Americans would gain health insurance. And premiums would fall sharply, especially for middle-class families.

The Biden plan would increase subsidies and also remove the upper-income limit that prevents many middle-class families from receiving aid. This would cost a fair amount of money: The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget puts the price tag at $850 billion over a decade. But it would cost far less than the 2017 tax cut, much of which went to corporations, which were supposed to respond by increasing investment, but didn’t.

The Biden plan would also automatically enroll low-income Americans in the public option, which is more important than it might sound. One of the defects of our system is that it’s complex and confusing, and those who need help the most are often the least able to navigate their way to getting it. Ideally we’d just move to a simpler system, but for now auto-enrollment would be an important palliative measure.

True, America would still fall somewhat short of achieving what every other advanced country has — universal health care. But we’d get a lot closer, and many who currently have insurance coverage would see their costs fall and the quality of coverage improve.

If Trump wins, Americans will lose preexisting condition protection and many will lose their health insurance or see their premiums soar; if Biden wins, Americans will keep that protection and many will gain insurance or see their premiums fall.

More at www.nytimes.com/2020/10/05/opinion/joe-biden-health-care.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:13 PM

Donald Trump Jr. reportedly wanted a family 'intervention' to stop Trump's 'crazy behaviour' at Walter Reed

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-jr-reportedly-wan
ted-a-family-intervention-to-stop-trump-s-crazy-behaviour-at-walter-reed/ar-BB19KC72?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:51 PM

Trump and Socialized Medicine

In economics we have the concept of “revealed preference” that simply states that you do not pay attention to what an individual claims to prefer. Rather, you pay attention to what they actually do.

President Trump just elected to go to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center for treatment of his CORON-19 symptoms. He could have elected to go to any hospital in the country, but he choose to go to the most purely socialist medical center in the country, one owned by the government and all it’s employees are government employees. Just as the military is the purest example of socialism in the US, Walter Reed is the purest example of socialized medicine in the US.

So Trump’s revealed preference is that he prefers socialized medicine to private medical care.

Who knew that deep down he really is a socialist.

https://angrybearblog.com/2020/10/trump-and-socialized-medicine.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 7, 2020 2:42 AM




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Wednesday, October 7, 2020 5:42 PM

We have to take action and vote like our lives depend on it.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:16 PM

"Socialism is a scare-word they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years. Socialism is what they called public (owned electric) power. Socialism is what they called Social Security. Socialism is what they called farm price supports. Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance. Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people." - Harry S. Truman, 1952
www.snopes.com/fact-check/truman-socialism-scare-word/

Truman did not mention Obamacare or Medicare because those would be distant future scare-words.

How Obamacare became Democrats’ most powerful political weapon
There’s a reason Trump and Pence keep lying about Obamacare, and Biden and Harris keep bringing it up.
www.vox.com/2020/10/8/21507188/trump-pence-obamacare-affordable-care-a
ct-aca-biden-harris-debate


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:39 PM

‘A Republican Party unraveling’: GOP plunged into crisis as Trump abruptly ends economic relief talks, dismisses virus

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-republican-party-unraveling-
gop-plunged-into-crisis-as-trump-abruptly-ends-economic-relief-talks-dismisses-virus/ar-BB19NWBm?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, October 9, 2020 4:41 AM




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Friday, October 9, 2020 7:10 AM

I don't think that ALL Democrats are crazy terrorists that burn down the streets when they don't get their way. In fact, most of them aren't. Just BLM and your Antifa buddies.

I'm assuming this cartoon is about something some crazy dude did. Are you insinuating that everybody who is voting for "the wrong party" is going to shoot up a hair salon because they can't get their hair cut?

I assure you, that's not the case.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 9, 2020 7:11 AM

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Originally posted by second:
We have to take action and vote like our lives depend on it.



Fuck Michelle Obama.

Scratch that. I wouldn't do that with Barry's dick.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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THG
Sunday, October 11, 2020 4:51 AM

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, October 12, 2020 7:08 PM

Houston Chronicle Editorial: We recommend Joe Biden for president

. . . Many who plan to vote for Trump, some with pinched nose, act as though character itself were a luxury — nice if you can get it, but not essential.

We disagree. Character, in this election, is everything.

Character, personified from the get-go by George Washington’s voluntary relinquishment of power after two terms as America’s first president, is the set of virtues upon which all others depend. What is a promise to an ally or a warning to an adversary if it can’t be trusted?

It is America’s character — the Sunday-best version of it in our hearts or the ideal we’re still striving toward — that swells our chests at a Fourth of July parade, not tweaked trade deals rebranded as new, not games of chicken with China, not even a Supreme Court coup.

Trump’s deficiencies of decency are not a matter of style. These days, they are a matter of life and death.

Lack of character is what got us into this national nightmare that has killed 213,000 Americans, infected more than 7.6 million and put tens of millions out of work. And character is the only thing that will get us out.

The allure of Trump’s message and style back in 2016 was intoxicating for many fed up with Congress’ tit-for-tat dysfunction and decades of unmitigated greed and corporate coddling by both parties at the expense of the American dream.

His devil-may-care rhetoric felt refreshingly, if perversely, free in our bubble-wrapped discourse. Rather than look at his business empire as a liability, his voters ignored Trump’s trust-fund privilege, his companies’ six bankruptcies, and saw in his wealth an independence from donor interests that made his vows of draining the D.C. swamp believable.


Instead, Trump surrounded himself with a crooked cast of characters, more than a dozen of whom have ended up criminally charged or imprisoned.

His tax cuts disproportionately benefited the wealthy. His assault on the Affordable Care Act did nothing to thin the ranks of uninsured. While Biden wants to expand access to health coverage with a public option, Trump has yet to keep his promise to protect people with preexisting conditions.

Even some of Trump’s gains were foiled by his own folly, as we saw when manufacturing gains were erased by his trade wars.

As it turned out, Trump was not a salve for our ills. He was a comorbidity. He exacerbated our preexisting divisions.

The one-time birther conspiracist used his powerful platform to demonize immigrants and to embolden, with winks, nods and loose lips, hate groups and other racists.

“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us,” said retired U.S. Marine Corps Gen. James Mattis after resigning as Trump’s defense secretary. “We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership.”

Trump’s brazenness was a double-edged sword as president. The heedless bluster that stirred the hearts of the disaffected, charmed markets and helped maintain President Barack Obama’s record-long economic expansion that pushed household incomes to record levels and slashed poverty is the same hubris that downplayed a deadly virus until its rampant spread forced a national shutdown, turning a 3.5 percent unemployment rate into 14.7 percent seemingly overnight amid the sharpest job losses on record. By June, employers had shed an estimated 40 million jobs.

No, Trump didn’t unleash the novel coronavirus. Yes, he limited travel from China but incompletely and ineffectively. One look at German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s vigilant response that saved lives through science and widespread testing shows where America should have been: leading the world out of a crisis by example as we’ve done for more than a century — until Trump.

Trump failed to contain the threat, in part by fumbling testing strategy, sending mixed messages

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Monday, October 12, 2020 8:46 PM

Here are the prominent Republicans backing Biden
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/18/politics/republicans-supporting-biden/i
ndex.html


That's quite a list.


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THG
Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:37 AM

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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 4:46 PM

Slaughterhouse-Five is a work of fiction. Copyright © 1969 by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

He had a monograph with him, published by the German Association of Prison Officials. It was a report on the behavior in Germany of American enlisted men as prisoners of war. It was written by a former American who had risen high in the German Ministry of Propaganda. His name was Howard W. Campbell, Jr. He would later hang himself while awaiting trial as a war criminal. So it goes.

While the British colonel set Lazzaro’s broken arm and mixed plaster for the cast, the German major translated out loud passages from Howard W. Campbell, Jr.’s monograph. Campbell had been a fairly well-known playwright at one time. His opening line was this one:

America is the wealthiest nation on Earth, but its people are mainly poor, and poor Americans are urged to hate themselves. To quote the American humorist Kin Hubbard, “It ain’t no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be.” It is in fact a crime for an American to be poor, even though America is a nation of poor. Every other nation has folk traditions of men who were poor but extremely wise and virtuous, and therefore more estimable than anyone with power and gold. No such tales are told by the American poor. They mock themselves and glorify their betters. The meanest eating or drinking establishment, owned by a man who is himself poor, is very likely to have a sign on its wall asking this cruel question: “If you’re so smart, why ain’t you rich?” There will also be an American flag no larger than a child’s hand—glued to a lollipop stick and flying from the cash register.

The author of the monograph, a native of Schenectady, New York, was said by some to have had the highest I.Q. of all the war criminals who were made to face a death by hanging. So it goes.

Americans, like human beings everywhere, believe many things that are obviously untrue, the monograph went on. Their most destructive untruth is that it is very easy for any American to make money. They will not acknowledge how in fact hard money is to come by, and, therefore, those who have no money blame and blame and blame themselves. This inward blame has been a treasure for the rich and powerful, who have had to do less for their poor, publicly and privately, than any other ruling class since, say, Napoleonic times.

Many novelties have come from America. The most startling of these, a thing without precedent, is a mass of undignified poor. They do not love one another because they do not love themselves. Once this is understood, the disagreeable behavior of American enlisted men in German prisons ceases to be a mystery.

A prison administrator dealing with captured American enlisted men for the first time should be warned: Expect no brotherly love, even between brothers. There will be no cohesion between the individuals. Each will be a sulky child who often wishes he were dead.

Campbell told what the German experience with captured American enlisted men had been. They were known everywhere to be the most self-pitying, least fraternal, and dirtiest of all prisoners of war, said Campbell. They were incapable of concerted action on their own behalf. They despised any leader from among their own number, refused to follow or even listen to him, on the grounds that he was no better than they were, that he should stop putting on airs.

https://getcomics.info/other-comics/slaughter-house-five-2020-gn/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 8:42 PM




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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 12:33 AM

Native Americans Protesting Trump Border Wall Tear Gassed, Arrested by US Agents on Indigenous Peoples' Day
"It's obscene and offensive to us that local and state governments move to celebrate Indigenous Peoples' Day while the federal government blows up our sacred sites, steals our kids, militarily occupies our communities, and shoots at Native Americans."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/10/13/native-americans-protesti
ng-trump-border-wall-tear-gassed-arrested-us-agents


Trumptards are incapable of learning. They just keep being violent, fascist idiots.


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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 4:51 PM

Mitch McConnell's disturbing chuckle

About 1 in 4 children in Kentucky lives in poverty — and that was before Covid-19 wiped out tens of thousands of Kentucky jobs.

The state saw a remarkable drop in the percentage of uninsured residents, thanks to the Affordable Care Act (ACA), going from 66% uninsured in 2010 to a mere 5.5% uninsured by 2019.

But now, with his state, and the country, trapped in the teeth of a pandemic, McConnell has forced confirmation hearings for a conservative Supreme Court nominee who many believe would join in a decision to obliterate the ACA in a case set to come before the court in just a few weeks.

Now the question is: Will Kentucky voters agree that this is all a laughing matter?

More at www.cnn.com/2020/10/13/opinions/mitch-mcconnell-disturbing-chuckle-fil
ipovic/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 7:44 PM

Bill Barr Buries Report That Exonerates Obama
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/10/bill-barr-buries-report
-that-exonerates-obama
/

In the pantheon of Republican pseudo-scandals, “unmasking” has always been one of the dumbest. National security officials routinely ask the intelligence community to “unmask” names that have been redacted in raw reports so they can get a better idea of who’s doing what to whom, and the Obama administration did this just like every other administration. Republicans, however, have insisted for years that Susan Rice and others used unmasking requests as cover for a campaign against Michael Flynn, and naturally they demanded an investigation. Just as naturally, Bill Barr gave them what they wanted.

Sadly for Republicans, the investigation turned up nothing. That’s not surprising, and neither is this:

Bash’s team was focused not just on unmasking, but also on whether Obama-era officials provided information to reporters, according to people familiar with the probe, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive investigation. But the findings ultimately turned over to Barr fell short of what Trump and others might have hoped, and the attorney general’s office elected not to release them publicly, the people familiar with the matter said. The Washington Post was unable to review the full results of what Bash found.

The investigation basically exonerated the Obama team and probably would have hurt Donald Trump’s reelection, so Barr decided to keep it under wraps. This is how the Justice Department works these days: it’s a PR shop for Donald Trump, not an independent agency serving the best interests of the American public. Hopefully that will change in a few months.


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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 8:01 PM




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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 8:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Here are the prominent Republicans backing Biden
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/18/politics/republicans-supporting-biden/i
ndex.html


That's quite a list.







It's a who's who of Bushite NeoCon trash, including Ted's favorite youtube channel The Lincoln Project.

These are the people I voted against, so good.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 8:37 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Here are the prominent Republicans backing Biden
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/18/politics/republicans-supporting-biden/i
ndex.html


That's quite a list.







It's a who's who of Bushite NeoCon trash, including Ted's favorite youtube channel The Lincoln Project.

These are the people I voted against, so good.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Even THEY know he's a moron.


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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 8:37 PM




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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 8:52 PM

Conservative interests seek to control the political process by giving their corporate, and often secret, big-money benefactors more freedom to spend on elections. This, in turn, helps them drown out opposing voices, manipulate political outcomes and set the agenda in Congress. For proof of this dynamic, look no further than how the Court’s decision in Citizens United proved the death knell for climate change legislation in Congress. Before that fateful decision, which lifted restrictions on corporate spending in candidate elections, Congress had held regular, bipartisan hearings and even votes on legislation to limit the carbon emissions causing climate change. But Citizens United allowed the fossil fuel industry to use its massive money advantage to strike at this bipartisan progress, and it struck hard. The fossil fuel industry set its political forces instantly to work, targeting pro-climate-action candidates, particularly Republicans. Outside spending in 2010’s congressional races increased by more than $200 million over the previous midterm’s levels—a nearly 450 percent increase. Bipartisanship stopped dead.

More from Sheldon Whitehouse, United States Senator from Rhode Island, at
www.acslaw.org/issue_brief/briefs-landing/a-right-wing-rout-what-the-r
oberts-five-decisions-tell-us-about-the-integrity-of-todays-supreme-court
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 9:07 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Here are the prominent Republicans backing Biden
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/18/politics/republicans-supporting-biden/i
ndex.html


That's quite a list.







It's a who's who of Bushite NeoCon trash, including Ted's favorite youtube channel The Lincoln Project.

These are the people I voted against, so good.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Even THEY know he's a moron.







You fools have spent the last four years blowing anybody who would say the tiniest negative thing about Trump, including some of the most horrible people to ever live in our modern times.

You're a whore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 16, 2020 6:23 PM

How the G.O.P. Can Still Wreck America

Even if Trump loses, his party can do immense damage.

First of all, while Trump has very little chance of winning the popular vote, he might still eke out an Electoral College victory.

A more likely outcome is that Trump loses but Republicans hold the Senate. In that case, we know exactly what will happen: fiscal sabotage on a grand scale. That is, the G.O.P., which has been completely indifferent to budget deficits under Trump, will suddenly rediscover the evils of government debt and block every effort by a Biden administration to sustain the economy and living standards in the face of a pandemic.

And even if Democrats take both the Senate and the White House, they’re now almost certain to face a 6-3 Supreme Court — that is, a court dominated by appointees of an increasingly extremist party that has only won the popular vote for president once in the past three decades.

In the hearings for Amy Coney Barrett, Democrats have, rightly and understandably, hammered on the possibility that such a court would use transparently spurious arguments to overturn the Affordable Care Act, causing tens of millions of Americans to lose health insurance coverage. Roe v. Wade is also in obvious danger.

But the biggest threat this court will pose is to environmental policy.

Put it this way: Charles Koch is reportedly investing millions trying to get Barrett confirmed. That’s not because he’s passionately opposed to abortion rights, or, probably, even because he wants the A.C.A. overturned. What he’s looking for, since Koch is the second largest privately held company in America after Cargill, is a court that will block government regulation of business — and above all a court that will hamstring a Biden administration’s efforts to take action against climate change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_Industries

Sure enough, during her hearing, Barrett, asked about climate change, uttered the dreaded words, “I’m certainly not a scientist.” At this point everyone knows what that means. It’s not an expression of humility; it’s a signal that the speaker intends to ignore the science and to oppose any attempt to avert the biggest threat facing humanity. If a G.O.P.-stacked Supreme Court blocks effective climate policy, it will be a disaster for America and the world.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/opinion/election-trump-republicans.
html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 12:02 AM

Just because you CAN write books, doesn't mean you SHOULD.




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Saturday, October 17, 2020 12:02 AM

Just because you CAN write books, doesn't mean you SHOULD.








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Saturday, October 17, 2020 1:12 AM

WSJ confirms what we've suspected: Mark Zuckerberg directly intervened to prevent progressive news orgs like
@CourierNewsroom
from being included in Facebook's News Tab, while sharing meals with Ben Shapiro + exchanging texts with Jared Kushner
https://twitter.com/taraemcg/status/1317122093742460929?ref_src=twsrc%
5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1317122093742460929%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_0%2Ccontainerclick_1&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fjcdhrw%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse


How Mark Zuckerberg Learned Politics
Facebook’s chief, once uninterested, has transformed himself into an active political operator in the Trump era
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-mark-zuckerberg-learned-politics-1160
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Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:53 AM

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


Sen. Sasse Criticizes Trump During Call With Constituents

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 2:40 AM

I wonder how badly D's will sink as percent vote in CA, and will that make the party wake up and take notice.

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 5:37 PM

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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I wonder how badly D's will sink as percent vote in CA, and will that make the party wake up and take notice.

Voters, please wake up and take notice of The $16-Trillion Virus:

The costs through the fall of 2021, assuming the pandemic is largely controlled by then, break down as follows:

$7.6 trillion in lost economic output, according to estimates by the Congressional Budget Office;

$4.4 trillion in losses due to premature deaths (assuming a relatively conservative statistical value of $7 million is placed on each life lost, and that current trajectories continue, which would lead to 625,000 cumulative deaths associated with the pandemic through next year in the United States);

$2.6 trillion in health-care costs associated with long-term complications among survivors;

$1.6 trillion in increased mental-health costs attributable to the pandemic if the mental-health effects last just a year.

$16.2 trillion, is approximately 90 percent of the annual GDP of the United States, and far exceeds the costs associated with conventional recessions in this country.

www.harvardmagazine.com/2020/10/16-trillion-virus

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:18 PM

N.Y.C. Was Once a Bastion of G.O.P. Moderates. Then Trump Came Along.

Over the course of two decades, the New York City Republican Party got two mayors elected in deep blue New York City. It was a neat trick made possible by the party’s ability to toe a centrist line — conservative on the budget, liberal on social issues.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/n-y-c-was-once-a-bastion-of-g-
o-p-moderates-then-trump-came-along/ar-BB1a7FB2?ocid=msedgdhp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:17 PM

“You Think Our Country’s So Innocent?”

On war policy, Trump has proven less murderous than George W. Bush and more of a war criminal then Jimmy Carter. So far.

On matters of war, Donald Trump has consistently spoken and acted in contradictory and unorthodox ways. He campaigned in 2016 with a mixed message of attacking the legacy of the Iraq war and U.S. military adventurism, while simultaneously pledging to commit war crimes and promote imperialism as a matter of policy. On part four of American Mythology, we take an in-depth look at Trump’s war and national security policies. He escalated drone strikes in Somalia and Afghanistan, authorized troop surges and massive bombings in Iraq, launched cruise missile strikes in Syria, and threatened to “totally destroy North Korea.” On the other hand, he signed a deal with the Taliban to withdraw U.S. forces, attempted to end the Korean War, and claims to have fired John Bolton to avoid being in “World War 6.” In assessing Trump’s war policies, we seek to navigate past the rhetoric from Trump and his critics and examine his place in the history of U.S. presidents. In many ways, Trump has represented a continuity of U.S. policy with largely tactical differences from his predecessors. Overall, Trump built on some of the worst excesses of the Bush/Cheney administration and took advantage of the weak guardrails left behind by the Obama administration.

More at https://theintercept.com/2020/10/19/part-four-you-think-our-countrys-s
o-innocent
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
$4.4 trillion in losses due to premature deaths (assuming a relatively conservative statistical value of $7 million is placed on each life lost, and that current trajectories continue, which would lead to 625,000 cumulative deaths associated with the pandemic through next year in the United States);



That's a ridiculous number.

Nobody is putting $7 million on the life of old people riddled with other illnesses and weaknesses before they get the virus.

Nearly all of them don't work and haven't for quite some time. Nearly all of them are drawing from Social Security. Nearly all of them were already bleeding the healthcare system. Nearly all of them have organs that were used for a very long life and are worthless as transplants to healthy people when they pass. Absolutely none of them are pumping the amount of money required into a life insurance policy that would leave their family with $7 million when they die.

The fact that the article would state something so ludicrous makes the numbers they came up with for every other point suspect.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:52 PM

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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:54 PM

Reposted, since it was buried by idiot Ted ^

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
$4.4 trillion in losses due to premature deaths (assuming a relatively conservative statistical value of $7 million is placed on each life lost, and that current trajectories continue, which would lead to 625,000 cumulative deaths associated with the pandemic through next year in the United States);



That's a ridiculous number.

Nobody is putting $7 million on the life of old people riddled with other illnesses and weaknesses before they get the virus.

Nearly all of them don't work and haven't for quite some time. Nearly all of them are drawing from Social Security. Nearly all of them were already bleeding the healthcare system. Nearly all of them have organs that were used for a very long life and are worthless as transplants to healthy people when they pass. Absolutely none of them are pumping the amount of money required into a life insurance policy that would leave their family with $7 million when they die.

The fact that the article would state something so ludicrous makes the numbers they came up with for every other point suspect.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 7:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Reposted, since it was buried by idiot Ted ^

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
$4.4 trillion in losses due to premature deaths (assuming a relatively conservative statistical value of $7 million is placed on each life lost, and that current trajectories continue, which would lead to 625,000 cumulative deaths associated with the pandemic through next year in the United States);



That's a ridiculous number.

Nobody is putting $7 million on the life of old people riddled with other illnesses and weaknesses before they get the virus.

Nearly all of them don't work and haven't for quite some time. Nearly all of them are drawing from Social Security. Nearly all of them were already bleeding the healthcare system. Nearly all of them have organs that were used for a very long life and are worthless as transplants to healthy people when they pass. Absolutely none of them are pumping the amount of money required into a life insurance policy that would leave their family with $7 million when they die.

The fact that the article would state something so ludicrous makes the numbers they came up with for every other point suspect.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Do Right, Be Right. :)

And you still have no idea what you're talking about.


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Monday, October 19, 2020 7:20 PM

How Fox News molds reality into a serialized TV drama
The No. 1 news network tells “stories” in a surprisingly similar fashion to a show like Lost.
https://www.vox.com/culture/21503196/fox-news-tv-drama-serialized-lost

If you spend a whole week watching five consecutive nights of a given Fox News program, especially in the network’s primetime lineup, you may notice something unusual: It’s structured like a soap opera. “Storylines” — the president’s strength in battling Covid-19, say — are layered throughout the week in a way where they can temporarily pause with a “payoff” on Thursday or Friday that will carry viewers forward into the next week. This serialization keeps viewers hooked, which is good for the network’s ratings. But it also creates an irresponsible view of how the world operates.

Consider the following storyline about the supposed evils of antifa — the principle of fighting against fascism, which Fox News has redefined as a global organization with shadowy, undefined aims — that Tucker Carlson’s program has used over and over in the last few years. Across a week, it will run, roughly, “Antifa is bad”; “Antifa is a threat to Republicans”; “Antifa is a threat to America”; “Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization and should be classified as such.” You can easily swap in any other left-leaning movement or cause in place of “antifa.” The story beats are always the same.

This method of “storytelling” — define a threat, elaborate on the threat, then propose a solution to said threat that will require viewers to keep tuning in to see how the proposed solution plays out — pops up everywhere on television, from soap operas to professional wrestling to primetime prestige series like Game of Thrones.

And it’s a mainstay on Fox News. The network’s most popular programs function less like nightly news reports and more like serialized dramas, where you have to watch every episode to really understand the “mythology.” There are so many villains and enemies in the Fox News “universe” that if you miss anything, you might not know who’s who. It’s similar to a program like Lost, where half the intrigue stems from trying to figure out how the pieces all fit together.


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Monday, October 19, 2020 7:51 PM

If you place a low value on human life, there is no justification to do anything about safety. No justification for the existence of government run Medicare/Social Security/EMT/Fire Departments, etc. It will always be cheaper to kill a person than to spend money to prevent their death.

As of 2011, the Environmental Protection Agency set the value of a human life at $9.1 million. Meanwhile, the Food and Drug Administration put it at $7.9 million — and the Department of Transportation figure was around $6 million. Are any of these the right answer?
www.theglobalist.com/the-cost-of-a-human-life-statistically-speaking/

There is kind of an official price tag on human life. We can tell you what it is. One human life is worth about US$10 million.
www.npr.org/2020/04/23/843310123/how-government-agencies-determine-the
-dollar-value-of-human-life


How Much Is a Human Life Actually Worth?
As the US economy reopens amid a deadly pandemic, a dire question looms. Let's weigh the risks—and do the math.
In 1981, an economist named Kip Viscusi suggested using VSL to make these decisions. As he later wrote, the math was pretty simple. The odds said that about 1 in 10,000 Americans died on the job every year—a risk of 1/10,000. And in return, people got paid an extra $300 a year for incurring that risk. So OK: 10,000 workers get $3 million in total to risk one of them dying. The VSL was $3 million, or about $8.9 million adjusted for inflation. Today, estimates for VSL hover between $9 million and $11 million.
www.wired.com/story/how-much-is-human-life-worth-in-dollars/

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Reposted, since it was buried by idiot Ted ^

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
$4.4 trillion in losses due to premature deaths (assuming a relatively conservative statistical value of $7 million is placed on each life lost, and that current trajectories continue, which would lead to 625,000 cumulative deaths associated with the pandemic through next year in the United States);



That's a ridiculous number.

Nobody is putting $7 million on the life of old people riddled with other illnesses and weaknesses before they get the virus.

Nearly all of them don't work and haven't for quite some time. Nearly all of them are drawing from Social Security. Nearly all of them were already bleeding the healthcare system. Nearly all of them have organs that were used for a very long life and are worthless as transplants to healthy people when they pass. Absolutely none of them are pumping the amount of money required into a life insurance policy that would leave their family with $7 million when they die.

The fact that the article would state something so ludicrous makes the numbers they came up with for every other point suspect.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Voters, please wake up and take notice of The $16-Trillion Virus:

The costs through the fall of 2021, assuming the pandemic is largely controlled by then, break down as follows:

$7.6 trillion in lost economic output, according to estimates by the Congressional Budget Office;

$4.4 trillion in losses due to premature deaths (assuming a relatively conservative statistical value of $7 million is placed on each life lost, and that current trajectories continue, which would lead to 625,000 cumulative deaths associated with the pandemic through next year in the United States);

$2.6 trillion in health-care costs associated with long-term complications among survivors;

$1.6 trillion in increased mental-health costs attributable to the pandemic if the mental-health effects last just a year.

$16.2 trillion, is approximately 90 percent of the annual GDP of the United States, and far exceeds the costs associated with conventional recessions in this country.

www.harvardmagazine.com/2020/10/16-trillion-virus

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 19, 2020 8:35 PM

And now, some good news.




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Monday, October 19, 2020 9:02 PM

Is that your home country?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 9:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
If you place a low value on human life, there is no justification to do anything about safety. No justification for the existence of government run Medicare/Social Security/EMT/Fire Departments, etc. It will always be cheaper to kill a person than to spend money to prevent their death.

As of 2011, the Environmental Protection Agency set the value of a human life at $9.1 million. Meanwhile, the Food and Drug Administration put it at $7.9 million — and the Department of Transportation figure was around $6 million. Are any of these the right answer?
www.theglobalist.com/the-cost-of-a-human-life-statistically-speaking/

There is kind of an official price tag on human life. We can tell you what it is. One human life is worth about US$10 million.
www.npr.org/2020/04/23/843310123/how-government-agencies-determine-the
-dollar-value-of-human-life


How Much Is a Human Life Actually Worth?
As the US economy reopens amid a deadly pandemic, a dire question looms. Let's weigh the risks—and do the math.
In 1981, an economist named Kip Viscusi suggested using VSL to make these decisions. As he later wrote, the math was pretty simple. The odds said that about 1 in 10,000 Americans died on the job every year—a risk of 1/10,000. And in return, people got paid an extra $300 a year for incurring that risk. So OK: 10,000 workers get $3 million in total to risk one of them dying. The VSL was $3 million, or about $8.9 million adjusted for inflation. Today, estimates for VSL hover between $9 million and $11 million.
www.wired.com/story/how-much-is-human-life-worth-in-dollars/
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Reposted, since it was buried by idiot Ted ^

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
$4.4 trillion in losses due to premature deaths (assuming a relatively conservative statistical value of $7 million is placed on each life lost, and that current trajectories continue, which would lead to 625,000 cumulative deaths associated with the pandemic through next year in the United States);



That's a ridiculous number.

Nobody is putting $7 million on the life of old people riddled with other illnesses and weaknesses before they get the virus.

Nearly all of them don't work and haven't for quite some time. Nearly all of them are drawing from Social Security. Nearly all of them were already bleeding the healthcare system. Nearly all of them have organs that were used for a very long life and are worthless as transplants to healthy people when they pass. Absolutely none of them are pumping the amount of money required into a life insurance policy that would leave their family with $7 million when they die.

The fact that the article would state something so ludicrous makes the numbers they came up with for every other point suspect.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



$4.4 trillion in losses due to premature deaths (assuming a relatively conservative statistical value of $7 million is placed on each life lost, and that current trajectories continue, which would lead to 625,000 cumulative deaths associated with the pandemic through next year in the United States);



You didn't address my point at all.

I'm going to assume that this $7 Million per life lost is an average for every single American, regardless of age and/or potential.

Most people on the bottom rung are never going to have the opportunity to output enough to even cover what they consumed, let alone $7 Million during the span of their entire lifetimes.

And most people by a large margin who have died of Covid were well past their prime, not even capable of any economic output, and spending the rest of their lives sucking at the teet.

Tell the author of that article to use real world factors instead of bastardizing numbers to make his or her point.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 9:15 PM

Republicans are ready to remember they hate the deficit again under Joe Biden

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-are-ready-to-remem
ber-they-hate-the-deficit-again-under-joe-biden/ar-BB1aaqXL?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, October 19, 2020 9:51 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Is that your home country?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I wish.

My country is dealing with a fascist takeover by an insane president and his spineless lapdogs.


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Monday, October 19, 2020 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You didn't address my point at all.

I'm going to assume that this $7 Million per life lost is an average for every single American, regardless of age and/or potential.

Most people on the bottom rung are never going to have the opportunity to output enough to even cover what they consumed, let alone $7 Million during the span of their entire lifetimes.

And most people by a large margin who have died of Covid were well past their prime, not even capable of any economic output, and spending the rest of their lives sucking at the teet.

Tell the author of that article to use real world factors instead of bastardizing numbers to make his or her point.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your point is you don't read Wired and you place a low value on your life. I agree with you that Trump lovers' lives are worthless, which would explain half the difference between a Democrat and a Republican:
www.wired.com/story/how-much-is-human-life-worth-in-dollars/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 19, 2020 11:09 PM

Quote:

It will always be cheaper to kill a person than to spend money to prevent their death.
Not necessarily. That word "always" is problematic.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You didn't address my point at all.

I'm going to assume that this $7 Million per life lost is an average for every single American, regardless of age and/or potential.

Most people on the bottom rung are never going to have the opportunity to output enough to even cover what they consumed, let alone $7 Million during the span of their entire lifetimes.

And most people by a large margin who have died of Covid were well past their prime, not even capable of any economic output, and spending the rest of their lives sucking at the teet.

Tell the author of that article to use real world factors instead of bastardizing numbers to make his or her point.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your point is you don't read Wired and you place a low value on your life.



No. That's not my point.

Try again, you fucking idiot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Answered her own question.


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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

No. That's not my point.

Try again, you fucking idiot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I'm not gonna read the article to you and then explain it over and over until you finally, after 40 years, get the point, but you've made it perfectly clear you have never understood what life is worth. If you had, you won't have wasted a decade of your own life doing nothing.

How much is human life worth in dollars?
www.wired.com/story/how-much-is-human-life-worth-in-dollars/

To show how wrong-headed 6ix is, I will quote him:
Quote:

Covid is going to disappear next year one way or another.

In the alternate timeline where Biden wins, the Legacy Media will almost immediately stop talking about it and then it will slowly fall down the collective memory hole as other stories make people look the other way.

In our timeline where Trump wins, the Legacy Media will continue to lie about it and blow it way out of proportion, but eventually people are going to look around and face the reality that hardly anybody dies of this barely lethal virus and they look like a bunch of big, dumb, coward assholes wearing those masks all day long.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63860&mid=11144
51#1114451


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:51 PM

NATO would seek early summit with Biden, if elected, envoys say

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The NATO military alliance is considering a summit in March in Brussels to welcome a new U.S. president if Democrat candidate Joe Biden wins, diplomats and officials said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nato-would-seek-early-summit-with
-biden-if-elected-envoys-say/ar-BB1acMo8?ocid=msedgdhp


Watch how fast everything Trump did changes back to normal and even improves. tick tock Putin tick tock comrades sig and kiki.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 5:08 PM

Donald Trump: I’m going to replace two, three, could even be four, and it could even be four Supreme Court judges. I mean, perhaps more than anyone. I even heard the scenario it can be five.

The Trump administration has outsourced federal judicial appointments to the right-wing Federalist Society and Heritage Foundation. What is the ideology at the center of Trump’s judicial strategy, the influence of the Koch brothers, and the corporate and social agenda the GOP wants their new judges to impose? As Congress has failed to effectively legislate, judges — with lifetime appointments — have become the most consequential policymakers in this country.

More at https://theintercept.com/2020/10/20/intercepted-american-mythology-tru
mp-judges
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:32 PM

Bolivia Shows Why Imperialists Work To Keep Populations Propagandized
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/10/20/bolivia-shows-why-imperialists
-work-to-keep-populations-propagandized
/

Bolivia has reversed the US-backed coup which saw its leftist president Evo Morales ousted from the lithium-rich nation after a landslide victory last year. Another landslide victory for a previous member of Morales’ cabinet named Luis Arce has restored power to the Movement Toward Socialism (MAS) party after a year of rule by the coup regime.

Contrary to what a recent Guardian headline asserts this was not a “stunning comeback” for MAS but a widely anticipated repudiation of the false claims that were spun by western narrative managers that Morales had rigged the election last year in a dictatorial assault upon democracy. Two landslide victories in as many years is neither “stunning” nor a “comeback”, it’s just the people decisively making their will known two times.

Bolivia is still not in the clear; the US-centralized empire still has plenty of other avenues of attack through which to sabotage the will of the Bolivian people, and we may be certain that we will see them rolled out in the coming years if that empire still stands. But people are right to celebrate the fact that its preferred and primary avenue of attack has been thwarted.

Which is a good illustration of why imperialists pour so much energy into using propaganda to manipulate what people think and do. If you can’t manipulate people into supporting your actions, they’ll just wind up undoing all your handiwork. A coup was undone yesterday in Bolivia, a coup was undone in Venezuela in 2002, and coups will continue to be undone every time the people have the power to enact their will and can’t be propagandized or brutalized away from using it.

The great elephant in the room, around which so much of the behavior of establishment power revolves, is that there are many more ordinary human beings than there are sociopathic dominators trying to exploit them. This fact rarely enters the minds of the rank-and-file citizenry, but for the manipulators responsible for engineering the continuation and expansion of the imperialist oligarchic status quo, it is always at the center of their attention.

The powerful fear the people. Always have, always will. They are at all times acutely aware that there’s not actually anything stopping the public from using the power of their numbers to take back everything their rulers stole from them and doing whatever they like to their former oppressors. We’re like a giant the size of a mountain who is in an abusive relationship with a tiny little man; we might not think too much about how we could squash him like an insect whenever we like, but he most certainly does.


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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

No. That's not my point.

Try again, you fucking idiot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I'm not gonna read the article to you and then explain it over and over until you finally, after 40 years, get the point, but you've made it perfectly clear you have never understood what life is worth. If you had, you won't have wasted a decade of your own life doing nothing.

How much is human life worth in dollars?
www.wired.com/story/how-much-is-human-life-worth-in-dollars/

To show how wrong-headed 6ix is, I will quote him:
Quote:

Covid is going to disappear next year one way or another.

In the alternate timeline where Biden wins, the Legacy Media will almost immediately stop talking about it and then it will slowly fall down the collective memory hole as other stories make people look the other way.

In our timeline where Trump wins, the Legacy Media will continue to lie about it and blow it way out of proportion, but eventually people are going to look around and face the reality that hardly anybody dies of this barely lethal virus and they look like a bunch of big, dumb, coward assholes wearing those masks all day long.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63860&mid=11144
51#1114451


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Fuck your article.

You're either purposefully missing my point and then twisting it, or you're as retarded as I believe you are.


I'm not going to post it again. I already did twice.

Either figure it out and apologize, or shut the fuck up about it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Bolivia Shows Why Imperialists Work To Keep Populations Propagandized
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/10/20/bolivia-shows-why-imperialists
-work-to-keep-populations-propagandized
/

Bolivia has reversed the US-backed coup which saw its leftist president Evo Morales ousted from the lithium-rich nation after a landslide victory last year. Another landslide victory for a previous member of Morales’ cabinet named Luis Arce has restored power to the Movement Toward Socialism (MAS) party after a year of rule by the coup regime.

Contrary to what a recent Guardian headline asserts this was not a “stunning comeback” for MAS but a widely anticipated repudiation of the false claims that were spun by western narrative managers that Morales had rigged the election last year in a dictatorial assault upon democracy. Two landslide victories in as many years is neither “stunning” nor a “comeback”, it’s just the people decisively making their will known two times.

Bolivia is still not in the clear; the US-centralized empire still has plenty of other avenues of attack through which to sabotage the will of the Bolivian people, and we may be certain that we will see them rolled out in the coming years if that empire still stands. But people are right to celebrate the fact that its preferred and primary avenue of attack has been thwarted.

Which is a good illustration of why imperialists pour so much energy into using propaganda to manipulate what people think and do. If you can’t manipulate people into supporting your actions, they’ll just wind up undoing all your handiwork. A coup was undone yesterday in Bolivia, a coup was undone in Venezuela in 2002, and coups will continue to be undone every time the people have the power to enact their will and can’t be propagandized or brutalized away from using it.

The great elephant in the room, around which so much of the behavior of establishment power revolves, is that there are many more ordinary human beings than there are sociopathic dominators trying to exploit them. This fact rarely enters the minds of the rank-and-file citizenry, but for the manipulators responsible for engineering the continuation and expansion of the imperialist oligarchic status quo, it is always at the center of their attention.

The powerful fear the people. Always have, always will. They are at all times acutely aware that there’s not actually anything stopping the public from using the power of their numbers to take back everything their rulers stole from them and doing whatever they like to their former oppressors. We’re like a giant the size of a mountain who is in an abusive relationship with a tiny little man; we might not think too much about how we could squash him like an insect whenever we like, but he most certainly does.






I remember when T celebrated and said "the good guys won today" when Macron won France. Ask the French how well that turned out for them.

You'll no doubt forget your little Bolivia cheerlead you're putting on display here by the time those chickens come home to roost...

But I won't.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I remember when T celebrated and said "the good guys won today" when Macron won France. Ask the French how well that turned out for them.

You'll no doubt forget your little Bolivia cheerlead you're putting on display here by the time those chickens come home to roost...

But I won't.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

Still waiting for an intelligent, informed response.

Some things will just never happen.


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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:20 PM

Videos From Right-Wing Site That Preaches ‘The Left Ruins Everything’ Assigned In Ohio School
PragerU videos were recently assigned in an Ohio classroom. Turns out, the right-wing site is looking to further its influence in K-12 settings.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/right-wing-videos-public-schools-prager
u_n_5f889a29c5b6e9e76fbb6db8


Reichwingers have always preached that schools are full of communist indoctrination. That's demonstrably not true, but they're so full of their own propaganda, they just keep repeating it like a bunch of Russian trolls.

But disinformation is OK if it's theirs.




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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I remember when T celebrated and said "the good guys won today" when Macron won France. Ask the French how well that turned out for them.

You'll no doubt forget your little Bolivia cheerlead you're putting on display here by the time those chickens come home to roost...

But I won't.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

Still waiting for an intelligent, informed response.

Some things will just never happen.






This was both intelligent and informed.

History means something. And when you can remember it and watch others who forget doomed to repeat it over and over again, you can actually come off as quite prophetic in your predictions.

If you were about 2 IQ points lower than you are, you'd think I was doing magic.

But I'll give you and your pathetic brainlet the benefit of the doubt here and just call it a very educated guesstimate of what is to come.

Just like anything else, we'll have to wait a while before I can spit-roast you with all that crow.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:59 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



This was both intelligent and informed.




*Insert THG stupid people quote here*


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Wednesday, October 21, 2020 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



This was both intelligent and informed.




*Insert THG stupid people quote here*





Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I remember when T celebrated and said "the good guys won today" when Macron won France. Ask the French how well that turned out for them.

You'll no doubt forget your little Bolivia cheerlead you're putting on display here by the time those chickens come home to roost...

But I won't.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

Still waiting for an intelligent, informed response.

Some things will just never happen.






This was both intelligent and informed.

History means something. And when you can remember it and watch others who forget doomed to repeat it over and over again, you can actually come off as quite prophetic in your predictions.

If you were about 2 IQ points lower than you are, you'd think I was doing magic.

But I'll give you and your pathetic brainlet the benefit of the doubt here and just call it a very educated guesstimate of what is to come.

Just like anything else, we'll have to wait a while before I can spit-roast you with all that crow.



Do Right, Be Right. :)



Looking forward to that spit-roasting.

I hope you don't disappear after Trump wins so I get to rub this one in your face too.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, October 22, 2020 5:52 AM

Facebook Manipulated the News You See to Appease Republicans, Insiders Say
Sources tell us the platform tweaked its code to help right-wing publishers and throttle sites like Mother Jones.
https://www.motherjones.com/media/2020/10/facebook-mother-jones/

Near the close of the first year of the Trump presidency, executives at Facebook were briefed on some major changes to its News Feed—the code that determines which of the zillions of posts on the platform any one of us is shown when we look at Facebook. The story the company has publicly told is that it was working to “bring people closer together” by showing us more posts from friends and family, and to prioritize “trusted” and “informative” sources of news. The changes would also reduce how much news most people see, and therefore decrease revenue for many publishers.

What wasn’t publicly known until now is that Facebook actually ran experiments to see how the changes would affect publishers—and when it found that some of them would have a dramatic impact on the reach of right-wing “junk sites,” as a former employee with knowledge of the conversations puts it, the engineers were sent back to lessen those impacts. As the Wall Street Journal reported on Friday, they came back in January 2018 with a second iteration that dialed up the harm to progressive-leaning news organizations instead.

In fact, we have now learned that executives were even shown a slide presentation that highlighted the impact of the second iteration on about a dozen specific publishers—and Mother Jones was singled out as one that would suffer, while the conservative site the Daily Wire was identified as one that would benefit. These changes were pushed by Republican operatives working in Facebook’s Washington office under Vice President of Global Public Policy Joel Kaplan (who later made headlines for demonstratively supporting his friend Brett Kavanaugh during confirmation hearings).


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Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:23 PM

The 3-way fight among Republicans runs deeper than Trump and will outlast him

Whatever happens on Nov. 3, the three-cornered fight on the American right over who owns conservatism will go on. You don’t have to be part of the fight to have a stake in the outcome. Until the right sorts itself out, gridlock and bad government in Washington will continue.

The contest among Republicans involves market liberals, one-issue crusaders, and a nation-first hard right. Each has its own vision of conservatism’s ideals and priorities. Each thinks its vision the true one. Each believes it alone best able to face down conservatism’s common enemy, the left.

It’s an old fight, and not unique to the U.S., although the anger and intensity have lately hit new heights. The fight is not about Donald Trump, the hard right’s current champion. It’s deeper than Trump and will outlast him.

At issue is who Republicans want to be. Do they want to be Grown-Ups, a Tribe, or One-Issue Crusaders?

The Grown-Ups are business-friendly, broadly moderate Republicans in descent from Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. On campaign, they can turn up the partisan gas. In office, they will work with Democrats at the center and with foreign allies abroad.

In what feels long ago, the Grown Ups were in charge. They are mostly now retirees or political has-beens: George W. Bush, Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, former Maine Sen. William Cohen, former South Dakota Sen. Larry Pressler, former Arizona Senator Jeff Flake. In the media, they include eminent but bewildered conservatives who have lost a party home: George Will, David Brooks, Bill Kristol.

The Tribe is conservatism’s second choice. It is the U.S. version of a nation-first hard right that is also eating into the center-right parties of Europe. The Tribe combines rich donors and disaffected white voters. The donors want low taxes and small government. The disaffected want government help but think too much of it goes to the wrong people. Trump did not create the Tribe. It adopted him.

The trouble with the Tribe is that it turns politics into low-grade civil war.

More at www.marketwatch.com/story/the-3-way-fight-among-republicans-runs-deepe
r-than-trump-and-will-outlast-him-2020-10-20


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:05 PM

Trump wants to cancel another nuclear arms treaty:

Trump urges nations to withdraw support for the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW)

Beatrice Fihn dismissed Trump's claim that the TPNW interferes with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty as "straightforward lies, to be frank."

Beatrice Fihn, executive director of the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons, the 2017 Nobel Peace Prize-winning coalition whose work helped spearhead the nuclear ban treaty, told The Associated Press Tuesday that several diplomatic sources confirmed that they and other states that ratified the TPNW had been sent letters by the U.S. requesting their withdrawal.

"They {Trump} have no actual argument to back that up," she said. "The Nonproliferation Treaty is about preventing the spread of nuclear weapons and eliminating nuclear weapons, and this treaty implements that. There's no way you can undermine the Nonproliferation Treaty by banning nuclear weapons. It's the end goal of the Nonproliferation Treaty."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-urges-nations-to-withdraw-support-for-
un-nuclear-weapons-prohibition-treaty-ap
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 23, 2020 12:06 AM

It is close to being over reaver. Then things will change.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, October 23, 2020 1:41 AM





Considering Musk's behavior, it works on at least 2 levels!

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Friday, October 23, 2020 1:50 AM

Trump Exposes Himself as Whiner-in-Chief in Leaked ‘60 Minutes’ Interview
SELF-OWNED
The president released his apparently unedited ‘60 Minutes’ chat on Thursday, thinking it was a dunk on Lesley Stahl—but it only made himself look worse.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-exposes-himself-as-whiner-in-chief
-in-leaked-60-minutes-interview-with-lesley-stahl?ref=home


Over the past couple days, President Donald Trump has been repeatedly threatening to release his entire, unedited interview with 60 Minutes’ Lesley Stahl before an edited version airs on this coming Sunday’s episode. Well, he finally did it and it may have the exact opposite effect he was hoping for.

“Look at the bias, hatred and rudeness on behalf of 60 Minutes and CBS,” Trump posted on Facebook the morning of his final debate with Joe Biden. He then added, for good measure, “Tonight’s anchor, Kristen Welker, is far worse!”

But what anyone who watches all 38 minutes will see is that the president spent the bulk of his time openly whining about how “tough” the questions were while refusing to actually answer any of them in a coherent manner.
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Trump is



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Friday, October 23, 2020 2:48 AM


AFAIK nobody's posted about this and there doesn't seem to be a thread, but it's about 'democrats' so ...


Is there a current nickname for Nancy P that goes to her shriveled walnut-sized brain? Nobody credits the inept junior-high mean-girl snark she throws at Trump. And her political calculations are 180 of where she needs to be. The impeachment was a disaster, Adam Schiff is a bad joke who needs to be put in a corner, and her stand on unemployment aid looks like she's holding it hostage for political gain. NONE of this is going to bring democrats any credit as a party.


I have no idea who she answers to, or if she was thought of as so unimportant she was left to her own devices. But my impression is she has so tarnished the democratic brand, that, given Joe's weak credentials - she's sinking him.

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Friday, October 23, 2020 5:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

AFAIK nobody's posted about this and there doesn't seem to be a thread, but it's about 'democrats' so ...

Why have Republicans become obsessed with accusing their opponents of pedophilia?

It’s the only thing worse than their record. Trump’s backers are throwing an entire pot of spaghetti at Hunter and his father in hopes that one of their lines of attack might stick.

It’s not just Hunter Biden who’s been targeted by baseless pedophilia claims designed to stir up frenzied fear among the president’s supporters, a majority of whom say they believe top Democrats are involved in sex-trafficking rings. Trump has been openly suggesting that Joe Biden is a pedophile for more than a month. Donald Trump Jr.—who appeared on Fox News on Thursday to make unsubstantiated claims about Hunter’s alleged links to “human trafficking” enterprises—has been calling the Democratic presidential nominee a pedophile since May.

There is a long history of conservative politicians and commentators accusing Democrats, with no evidence, of the actual sex crimes and child abuse. Why is pedophilia is the accusation of choice? It’s possibly the easiest to understand, least defensible allegation available to them, and it’s one of the few moral high grounds they believe they have left to claim.

By pumping their followers’ media diets full of claims that Democrats abuse children, right-wing operatives are supplanting real stories about real victims with fake stories. In the wake of the nomination and election of a Republican president who barged into pageant dressing rooms to stare at half-naked teenage contestants, publicly speculated on his 1-year-old daughter’s future breasts, and told several young girls that he’d be dating them someday, followers of Pizzagate and QAnon organized around conspiracy theories about Democrats keeping children as sex slaves.

This political tactic is partially an attempt to rile up some true believers who think Donald Trump is indeed the savior of all the children Democrats currently hold in blood-harvesting torture cells. But it’s not just directed at partisans and conspiracy theorists. The greater project of the pedophilia-manufacturing right is the poisoning of public trust. They are hoping that people hear these claims and lose all faith that decent politicians exist; or begin to believe the American political system is so irredeemably corrupt, and its leaders so depraved, that they might as well vote for Trump, who doesn’t try to hide his corrupt depravity.

It behooves right-wing leaders, who have fully relinquished all concerns about hypocrisy, to tell lies about their political opponents that resemble truths about their political allies. The worst that can happen is they’re exposed as hypocrites. And in that case, who among their supporters would care?

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20201023011736/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2020/10/republicans-baseless-pedophilia-accusations-explained.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 23, 2020 8:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

AFAIK nobody's posted about this and there doesn't seem to be a thread, but it's about 'democrats' so ...

Why have Republicans become obsessed with accusing their opponents of pedophilia?




Just one more reason I'm not a Republican, which you keep saying that I am.

I've actually defended Biden against any sexual allegations. I'm not a Democrat hypocrite who flip flops on that issue when it suits me.


That being said, there are a lot of kid fuckers in politics and in hollywood. And they come from both sides.

It shouldn't even be a thing that somebody keeps a tally of who does it more. One is too many.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 23, 2020 8:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

AFAIK nobody's posted about this and there doesn't seem to be a thread, but it's about 'democrats' so ...


Is there a current nickname for Nancy P that goes to her shriveled walnut-sized brain? Nobody credits the inept junior-high mean-girl snark she throws at Trump. And her political calculations are 180 of where she needs to be. The impeachment was a disaster, Adam Schiff is a bad joke who needs to be put in a corner, and her stand on unemployment aid looks like she's holding it hostage for political gain. NONE of this is going to bring democrats any credit as a party.


I have no idea who she answers to, or if she was thought of as so unimportant she was left to her own devices. But my impression is she has so tarnished the democratic brand, that, given Joe's weak credentials - she's sinking him.





She's one of the worst politicians who ever held office.

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Friday, October 23, 2020 9:00 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Just one more reason I'm not a Republican, which you keep saying that I am.

I've actually defended Biden against any sexual allegations. I'm not a Democrat hypocrite who flip flops on that issue when it suits me.

That being said, there are a lot of kid fuckers in politics and in hollywood. And they come from both sides.

It shouldn't even be a thing that somebody keeps a tally of who does it more. One is too many.

I'm an engineer, 6ix, and I don't tolerate people's airhead delusions about themselves. If you vote for Trump, you are a Republican. And your "defense" is useless because there is no action. Words count for nothing. It is what you do, not what you say or think or believe that have weight. Words, thoughts, beliefs have no mass.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 23, 2020 9:16 PM

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Words count for nothing.
Then why do you post here at all?

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Friday, October 23, 2020 10:39 PM

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Words count for nothing.
Then why do you post here at all?

It is a break from work. I'm 68 years old and still working unlike 1kiki and Signym and 6ix and JewelStaiteFan. By the way, the work has mass. And real danger! It is not the weightless pushing around of symbols on a screen.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 24, 2020 3:29 AM

You spend and awful lot of time 'breaking' from 'work'. Far more than you'd allow anyone else (if your tales of being a rich oil baron are to be believed.) At some point, it doesn't seem like 'work' to me - the kind of grind the rest of us have to engage in.

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Saturday, October 24, 2020 3:42 AM

Second doesn't work. Second doesn't own and run a business. Second doesn't have any money. Second never served in Vietnam. Second is in his 30's. Marcos is Second's sockpuppet. Second has advocated for the death of the President and stated on several occasions he knows how to do it and how to get away with it. Second has advocated that everybody should kill their bosses and steal everything they own. Second is a garbage human being. Second is a liar. Second's opinions are worth less than Nilbog's virtue signal points.



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