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Hydroxychloriquine, The Cure For Wuhan Coronavirus (Fauci Flu)

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Thursday, August 6, 2020 10:59 PM

Doooood.

YOU cited the HCQ drugfacts webpage that listed the various dosages of HCQ for various conditions. The FACT that you only read the very first recommendation for HCQ was YOUR problem. (Or did you read them all and lie by presenting only the very first low dose as the only one?)

And then to top it off, you completely made up bogus shit about the WHO recommended dosages for its trial, which I had to correct WITH FACTS showing the WHO was NOT recommitting anything like what you claimed, and that, in addition, its dosage schedule was well within the recommended HCQ dosing limits on the HCQ page YOU cited.


Now you're trying to say that ... what? India is proving you right? and me wrong?


You're wrong. You were wrong with your bogus facts when you posted them - and nothing about India is going to change that.

Sheesh. You're as bad as JACK when it comes to not being able to admit when you're wrong, especially to a woman.


As for India, good luck to them! I hope they find a good dosing schedule and time for intervention that works!

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Friday, August 7, 2020 2:27 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, let me clarify: Martenson still advocates masking and handwashing, but what he's saying is that if you implement strict lockdown measures, all you're doing is delaying the "first wave". I've been wondering about that myself: all nations, whether they lockdown or "let 'er rip" -or something in-between- seem to have some inherent number of people who're going to die, it's only a question of "when".

Well, I thought the point of all of this WAS to "flatten the curve" to not overwhelm the medical system. NOT to eradicate the virus. If that was the point then California has done an excellent job of flattening the curve, because it seems to be progressing thru its "first peak" rather slowly.

But he has some interesting data from Sweden, starting at 24:17 which shows Sweden having a "first peak" of deaths and a "second peak" of cases without attendant deaths.

I wonder how much of these shape of the "cases" curve is constricted by early limitations in testing. Since Sweden has had a "let 'er rip" philosophy from the beginning, why wouldn't the "cases" curve just steadily progress upwards instead of itself showing a dip? I think I would like to see an attendant "positivity" line along with the "cases" line to help me understand how much of the cases they were actually detecting along various points of the curve. Also, when facing skyrocketing death rates, the Swedish people may have taken it upon themselves to take precautions. Also, I wonder if the "first wave" (of deaths) was from the first strain of the virus, and the "second wave" (of cases) was from the more infectious mutation. I don't know the answer to that one, but I'd sure like to know!

So his video seems to be more of a caution against further lockdowns, but relying on masking and handwashing.

I think I started recommending masking up instead of lockdowns about three weeks into the USA epidemic. It seems to intrude less on people's liberties than other measures like lockdowns or "immunity passports" or mandated vaccination or microchipping people and have a lot lower impact on the economy.

I've been hearing for quite some time that mask wearing has been effective at reducing spread, but social distancing has not really helped to any discernable degree. In RWED I continued to see emphasis on SocDist.
I have been amazed at the number of obese old women who are the Mask Nazis, screaming at everybody to wear a mask!! Although the primary effect of wearing a mask is to not get infected yourself, and not so much about not spreading if you are infected.


Washing hands.
Not sure where you all are, but I'm stuck in a Libtard State, Libtard City, with spendaholic County Exec. So when places have been allowed to open, they are all required to not allow and flowing water, or sinks with water, or any handwashing stations. Yes. Locked Down and restricted because of contagious illness, and public interaction is allowed as long as nobody is allowed to wash their hands. Is this only Libtards who think up these brilliant plans? Or is it elsewhere as well?

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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 2:18 AM

Democrats thanking Trump for recommending HCQ, which saved lives.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/9/paul-vallone-democrat-
nyc-council-member-hydroxych
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Tuesday, August 11, 2020 2:27 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Sheesh. You're as bad as JACK when it comes to not being able to admit when you're wrong, especially to a woman.



LOL

I missed this gem.

Go fuck yourself FemKaren.

Ask Ted or Second/Marcos if they feel I'm any more lenient on them because they don't have a vagina.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 3:41 AM

The following post is copied from the main thread, where I fear it might get buried. But it sounds promising (100%, that is), so it fits within my reasoning for this thread.

I hope SignyM doesn't mind.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Skip the first part, Chris Martenson is still pursuing his "native immunity/lower threshold for herd immunity" theory.

However, at 19:20 he discusses a triple therapy that has been found by Australian doctor and researcher to be 100% successful in curing mild cases of Covid-19: Ivermectin, zinc, and doxycyline. This therapy is more successful than HCQ+azithromycin, which was used as the base case in comparative studies.



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Also, with the development of a rapid saliva PCR test for Covid-19, it will be possible to test early and TREAT early, when it is likely to be more successful.

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#WEARAMASK


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Saturday, September 26, 2020 10:28 PM

I hope SignyM doesn't mind if I copy this pertinent post into this thread as well.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
From ZH, fwiw

Quote:

Breakthrough Research On Severe COVID-19 Infections Opens Door To New Treatment

So far, scientists have figured out that being male, elderly, and having underlying medical conditions can all raise risk factors for patients. But even patients who check all these boxes don't always experience serious symptoms. Scientists suspect that several factors influence severity, including pre-existing levels of inflammation, natural immunity levels, and the amount and strain of virus that starts the infection - along with variations in patients' genetic makeup.

As has been previously reported, many patients suffer the worst of the symptoms for COVID-19 due to an immune system overreaction called a "cytokine storm". As Dr. Fauci once explained, while "too little immunity is no good"..."too much immunity is really, really bad".

Now, researchers have discovered the role of a critical protein which could open the door to a new potential COVID-19 treatment.

Studies comparing reactions to COVID-19 in siblings have unearthed an interesting detail: the availability of a substance called interferon. Interferons are signaling proteins that help orchestrate the body’s defense against viral pathogens; they're used to treat diseases like Hepatitis C.

A growing body of evidence, including twin landmark studies published Thursday in the journal "Science" showed that "insufficient" interferon levels may be a dangerous precursor to a serious infection. As one researcher explained, the data suggest the virus uses this "one big trick" to slip past the body's initial defense systems.

"It looks like this virus has one big trick," said Shane Crotty, a professor in the Center for Infectious Disease and Vaccine Research at the La Jolla Institute for Immunology in California. "That big trick is to avoid the initial innate immune response for a significant period of time and, in particular, avoid an early type-1 interferon response."

The research highlights the potential for interferon-based therapies to expand a range of non-vaccine-related treatments, like Gilead's remdesivir and convalescent plasma.

Research shows the timing of medical intervention is also critical.

"We think timing may be essential because it’s only in the very early phase one can really battle the virus particles and defend against infection," said Alexander Hoischen, head of the genomic technologies and immuno-genomics group at Radboud University Medical Center in Nijmegen that analyzed the DNA of the two sets of brothers.

Then again, some people are believed to have trouble fighting infections because they make antibodies that deactivate their own interferon. On Thursday, a global consortium of researchers said such immune reactions to the protein could account for life-threatening pneumonia in at least 2.6% of women and 12.5% of men that causes inflammation in the patient's lungs.

Findings from the research offer the first explanation for the significantly higher mortality rate seen in male and elderly COVID-19 patients.

Interferon-blocking antibodies appeared in 101 of 987 patients with severe disease, but none of the 663 people with an asymptomatic or mild case, according to the research being published in "Science". Patients over 65 were also more likely than younger ones to have the autoimmune abnormality, which was "clinically silent until the patients were infected with SARS-CoV-2," said a group of more than 100 scientists said.

Researchers estimated that Inteferon issues might underlie as many as 14% of fatalities and the most severe cases.



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/breakthrough-research-severe-co
vid-19-infections-opens-door-new-treatment


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Saturday, September 26, 2020 10:33 PM

I was listening to an interveiw with Dr. Rand Paul the other day. He said that never before have there been unqualified politicians banning Doctors from practicing the best form of medicine they know, until NY and MI regarding HCQ. He said Doctors should continue to exercise their "Right To Try" the medical procedures and practices which are best.

Louie Gohmert stated that he took the HCQ, Zinc, Z-Pack, and nebulizer prescribed him, and he is completely clear now.

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Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:51 AM

Sounds like Trump is being treated with HCQ, remedesivir, Zinc, and also Dexamethezone.

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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:55 AM

I heard a reporter say that regeneron was used in the drug cocktail that Trump was given. First I heard of that one.

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