Hydroxychloriquine, The Cure For Wuhan Coronavirus (Fauci Flu)
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/02/pseudo-science-behind-the-assau
lt-on-hydroxychloroquine/ Anthony Watts (Anthony Watts) is a blogger, weathercaster and non-scientist, paid AGW denier who runs the website wattsupwiththat.com. He does not have a university qualification and has no climate credentials other than being a radio weather announcer. His website is parodied and debunked at the website wattsupwiththat.com Watts is on the payroll of the Heartland Institute, which itself is funded by polluting industries.[1]Quote:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/331898127_Hydroxychloroquine_
usage_in_US_patients_their_experiences_of_tolerability_and_adherence_and_implications_for_treatment_Survey_results_from_3127_patients_with_SLE_conducted_by_the_Lupus_Foundation_of_A is about Lupus.Quote:
https://vivelifecenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/White-Paper-on-H
CQ-07-22-2020.pdf by a guy from "America's Frontline Doctors," a sham funded by reichwing dark money. No credibility.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/07/30/americas-frontline-doctors/
I think you probably know how to use credible sources. You just don't.NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/02/pseudo-science-behind-the- assault-on-hydroxychloroquine/
I suggest you vet the rest of the references in your first link. I didn't have time to do them all, but so far they're a bust for CQ/ HCQ/ CQPO4.
Did you actually verify them yourself? It doesn't look like it.
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Bansal, M., 2020. Cardiovascular disease and COVID-19. Diabetes & Metabolic Syndrome: Clinical Research & Reviews, 25 March.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7102662/
Brouqui, P., Million, M. & Raoult, D., 2020. Scientific fraud to demonstrate the lack of efficacy of hydroxychloroquine compared to placebo in a non-randomized retrospective cohort of patients with Covid: Response to MAHEVAS et al. , MedRxiv, 2020. Mediterranee Infection, 24 04.
Chorin, E. e. a., 2020. The QT Interval in Patients with SARS-CoV-2 Infection Treated with Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin. medRxiv, 3 April.
COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel, 2020. COVID-19 Treatement Guildelines, s.l.: s.n.
CredibleMeds.org, 2020. COMBINED LIST OF DRUGS THAT PROLONG QT AND/OR CAUSE TORSADES DE POINTES (TDP). [Online]
Available at: https://crediblemeds.org/pdftemp/pdf/CombinedList.pdf
Drugs.com, 2019. Hydroxychloroquine Dosage. [Online]
Available at: https://www.drugs.com/dosage/hydroxychloroquine.html
FDA WARNING, 2020. FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital …. [Online]
Available at: https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-ag
ainst-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or
Gautret, P. & Raoult, D. e. a., 2020. Clinical and microbiological effect of a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin in 80 COVID-19 patients with at least a six-day follow up: A pilot observational study. Travel Medicine and Infectious Disease, 4 April.
Hache, G. & Raoult, D. e. a., 2020. Combination of hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin as potential treatment for COVID 19 patients: pharmacology, safety profile, drug interactions and management of toxicity.. Mediterranee Infection, 22 April.
Hawryluk, M., 2020. Mysterious Heart Damage Hitting COVID-19 Patients. WebMD, 06 April.
Jorge, A. e. a., 2019. Hydroxychloroquine Use and Cardiovascular Events Among Patients with Systemic Lupus Erythematosus and Rheumatoid Arthritis. American College of Rheumatology.
https://acrabstracts.org/abstract/hydroxychloroquine-use-and-cardiovas
cular-events-among-patients-with-systemic-lupus-erythematosus-and-rheumatoid-arthritis/
Kochi, A. e. a., 2020. Cardiac and arrhythmic complications in patients with COVID-19.. Journal of Cardiovascular Electrophysiology, 08 April.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jce.14479
cardiac complications from COVID-19 require vigilance for cardiotoxic effects from chloroquines
Magagnoli, J. e. a., 2020. Outcomes of hydroxychloroquine usage in United States veterans hospitalized with Covid-19. medRxiv, 23 April.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v2
no benefit
Mahevas, M. e. a., 2020. No evidence of clinical efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in patients hospitalized for COVID-19 infection with oxygen requirement: results of a study using routinely collected data to emulate a target trial. medRxiv, 14 April.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.10.20060699v1
no benefit
Molina, J. M. e. a., 2020. No evidence of rapid antiviral clearance or clinical benefit with the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin in patients with severe COVID-19 infection. Médecine et Maladies Infectieuses, 28 March.
https: // www.researchgate.net/profile / Breno_ Melo-Lima/ publication/ 340293105_ No_ Evidence_of_ Rapid_Antiviral_ Clearance_or_ Clinical_ Benefit_ with_the_ Combination_ of_ Hydroxy
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Quote:I know you have an agenda to make Trump right.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I've noticed a lack of clarity among internet sources about dosage.
The interwebs continue to be burying whatever information is useful bout the dosage. Perhaps more or better info is forthcoming.
But posting lies (and trying to get away with it by failing to post links) isn't the way to do it.
I have no agenda to make Trump right. If I have an agenda, it would be to help folk get whatever cure they desire, and therefore to help provide and display the information, for folk to view and consume.
However, after Trump made mantion of HCQ at a presser, the TDSers and the Orange Man Bad club all went batshit and opposed HCQ for no logical reason. So, those who are wrong are the ones I want to prove wrong. In a roundabout way, proving Trump might be right could help towards that end.
If there is logical and proven ways that HCQ is NOT a cure, then we could hope that such info could be shared in reasonable form, absent TDS and Orange Man Bad lunacy.
I would hope that, since HCQ has had many decades track record, we could focus on Trials NOT dated 2020, but from one of the other dozens of years that HCQ has been prescribed. It seems all of the Fake Trials are dated 2020, and are corrupted by the forces of TDS and Orange Man Bad.
I don't always post linkies, because that takes extra time, which I am short of. Also, web searches get different results between using mobile device and using desktop, so it is more difficult to track down some things which I've read.
If I feel that it is not well known that Terra might be orbiting Sol, I would try to track down a linky to point out that implication. Otherwise I conjure it can be easily found. I also generally assume you have greater capability to find medical or biological references than most can.
Sorry you thought I was evading your points.
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I apologize if I'm covering old ground, but I saw an interesting article to repost here
Quote:
An Effective COVID Treatment the Media Continues to Besmirch
ANALYSIS
By Steven Hatfill
August 04, 2020
On Friday, July 31, in a column ostensibly dealing with health care “misinformation,” Washington Post media critic Margaret Sullivan opened by lambasting “fringe doctors spouting dangerous falsehoods about hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 wonder cure.”
Actually, it was Sullivan who was spouting dangerous falsehoods about this drug, something the Washington Post and much of the rest of the media have been doing for months. On May 15, the Post offered a stark warning to any Americans who may have taken hope in a possible therapy for COVID-19. In the newspaper’s telling, there was nothing unambiguous about the science -- or the politics -- of hydroxychloroquine: “Drug promoted by Trump as coronavirus game-changer increasingly linked to deaths,” blared the headline. Written by three Post staff writers, the story asserted that the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine in treating COVID-19 is scant and that the drug is inherently unsafe. This claim is nonsense.
Biased against the use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 -- and the Washington Post is hardly alone -- the paper described an April 21, 2020, drug study on U.S. Veterans Affairs patients hospitalized with the illness. It found a high death rate in patients taking the drug hydroxychloroquine. But this was a flawed study with a small sample, the main flaw being that the drug was given to the sickest patients who were already dying because of their age and severe pre-existing conditions. This study was quickly debunked. It had been posted on a non-peer-reviewed medical archive that specifically warns that studies posted on its website should not be reported in the media as established information.
Yet, the Post and countless other news outlets did just the opposite, making repeated claims that hydroxychloroquine was ineffective and caused serious cardiac problems. Nowhere was there any mention of the fact that COVID-19 damages the heart during infection, sometimes causing irregular and sometimes fatal heart rhythms in patients not taking the drug.
To a media unrelentingly hostile to Donald Trump, this meant that the president could be portrayed as recklessly promoting the use of a “dangerous” drug. Ignoring the refutation of the VA study in its May 15 article, the Washington Post cited a Brazil study published on April 24 in which a COVID trial using chloroquine (a related but different drug than hydroxychloroquine) was stopped because 11 patients treated with it died. The reporters never mentioned another problem with that study: The Brazilian doctors were giving their patients lethal cumulative doses of the drug.
On and on it has gone since then, in a circle of self-reinforcing commentary. Following the news that Trump was taking the drug himself, opinion hosts on cable news channels launched continual attacks on both hydroxychloroquine and the president. “This will kill you!” Fox News Channel’s Neil Cavuto exclaimed. “The president of the United States just acknowledge that he is taking hydroxychloroquine, a drug that [was] meant really to treat malaria and lupus.”
Washington Post reporters Ariana Cha and Laurie McGinley were back again on May 22, with a new article shouting out the new supposed news: “Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients, study says.” The media uproar this time was based on a large study just published in the Lancet. There was just one problem. The Lancet paper was fraudulent and it was quickly retracted.
However, the damage from the biased media storm was done and it was long-lasting. Continuing patient enrollment needed for early-use clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine dried up within a week. Patients were afraid to take the drug, doctors became afraid to prescribe it, pharmacies refused to fill prescriptions, and in a rush of incompetent analysis andNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Please, just take the fucking drug for Christ's sake. You fucking morons.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:Signym, you and Trump are promoting hydroxychloroquine for the same political reasons as Brazilian President Bolsonaro:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I apologize if I'm covering old ground, but I saw an interesting article to repost hereQuote:
An Effective COVID Treatment the Media Continues to Besmirch
ANALYSIS
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/04/an_effective_cov
id_treatment_the_media_continues_to_besmirch_143875.html
A former Brazilian health minister, Luiz Mandetta, fired by Bolsonaro in April partly over the President's support of hydroxychloroquine, described public demand for hydroxychloroquine as "false hope". He said the President knew from the start that science didn't back his choice of drug, although Bolsonaro has recently insisted it medically aided him.
"It's just false hope," he told CNN. "Poor people have a hard time getting the health system to work and they say 'at least I have this'. It's more like a placebo, something they can take and be grateful to (Bolsonaro)," he said. "It's a political choice, nothing about health. He uses the drug to say to people they can go back to work." Bolsonaro has recently said the use of the drug is a matter between patient and doctor, but has insisted it has helped cure him from a two week infection.
The country's surplus of hydroxychloroquine comes amid an urgent need for other drugs to help Covid-19 patients. Pedro Archer, director of the Rio de Janeiro doctor's union, and an ICU doctor himself for months in the pandemic, said that he feared the focus on hydroxychloroquine has diverted government attention away from obtaining medications that coronavirus patients actually need.
"Midazolam, fentanyl, noradrenaline," he said, referring to vital drugs used to keep patients alive and comfortable in an ICU. "Public health is always running out of these." He added: "If the US wants to help Brazil, send these, not hydroxychloroquine."
More at www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/americas/brazil-us-hydroxychloroquine-doses-int
l/index.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:ONE logical reason might be if it doesn't work AND carries risks for COVID-19 damaged hearts.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
However, after Trump made mention of HCQ at a presser, the TDSers and the Orange Man Bad club all went batshit and opposed HCQ for no logical reason.
Quote:We're supposed to look at HCQ trials BEFORE 2020 even though they DIDN'T look at SAR-CoV-2?
I would hope that, since HCQ has had many decades track record, we could focus on Trials NOT dated 2020, but from one of the other dozens of years that HCQ has been prescribed.
Then how in god's name is anybody supposed to figure out if it works against the SAR-CoV-2 or not?
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reposted for readability
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I apologize if I'm covering old ground, but I saw an interesting article to repost here
Quote:
An Effective COVID Treatment the Media Continues to Besmirch
ANALYSIS
By Steven Hatfill
August 04, 2020
On Friday, July 31, in a column ostensibly dealing with health care “misinformation,” Washington Post media critic Margaret Sullivan opened by lambasting “fringe doctors spouting dangerous falsehoods about hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 wonder cure.”
Actually, it was Sullivan who was spouting dangerous falsehoods about this drug, something the Washington Post and much of the rest of the media have been doing for months. On May 15, the Post offered a stark warning to any Americans who may have taken hope in a possible therapy for COVID-19. In the newspaper’s telling, there was nothing unambiguous about the science -- or the politics -- of hydroxychloroquine: “Drug promoted by Trump as coronavirus game-changer increasingly linked to deaths,” blared the headline. Written by three Post staff writers, the story asserted that the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine in treating COVID-19 is scant and that the drug is inherently unsafe. This claim is nonsense.
Biased against the use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 -- and the Washington Post is hardly alone -- the paper described an April 21, 2020, drug study on U.S. Veterans Affairs patients hospitalized with the illness. It found a high death rate in patients taking the drug hydroxychloroquine. But this was a flawed study with a small sample, the main flaw being that the drug was given to the sickest patients who were already dying because of their age and severe pre-existing conditions. This study was quickly debunked. It had been posted on a non-peer-reviewed medical archive that specifically warns that studies posted on its website should not be reported in the media as established information.
Yet, the Post and countless other news outlets did just the opposite, making repeated claims that hydroxychloroquine was ineffective and caused serious cardiac problems. Nowhere was there any mention of the fact that COVID-19 damages the heart during infection, sometimes causing irregular and sometimes fatal heart rhythms in patients not taking the drug.
To a media unrelentingly hostile to Donald Trump, this meant that the president could be portrayed as recklessly promoting the use of a “dangerous” drug. Ignoring the refutation of the VA study in its May 15 article, the Washington Post cited a Brazil study published on April 24 in which a COVID trial using chloroquine (a related but different drug than hydroxychloroquine) was stopped because 11 patients treated with it died. The reporters never mentioned another problem with that study: The Brazilian doctors were giving their patients lethal cumulative doses of the drug.
On and on it has gone since then, in a circle of self-reinforcing commentary. Following the news that Trump was taking the drug himself, opinion hosts on cable news channels launched continual attacks on both hydroxychloroquine and the president. “This will kill you!” Fox News Channel’s Neil Cavuto exclaimed. “The president of the United States just acknowledge that he is taking hydroxychloroquine, a drug that [was] meant really to treat malaria and lupus.”
Washington Post reporters Ariana Cha and Laurie McGinley were back again on May 22, with a new article shouting out the new supposed news: “Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients, study says.” The media uproar this time was based on a large study just published in the Lancet. There was just one problem. The Lancet paper was fraudulent and it was quickly retracted.
However, the damage from the biased media storm was done and it was long-lasting. Continuing patient enrollment needed for early-use clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine dried up within a week. Patients were afraid to take the drug, doctors became afraid to prescribe it, pharmacies reNOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:Hydroxychloroquine -- given either alone or in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin -- did not improve the conditions of hospitalized patients with mild-to-moderate Covid-19.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:ONE logical reason might be that it doesn't work AND carries risks for COVID-19 damaged hearts.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
However, after Trump made mention of HCQ at a presser, the TDSers and the Orange Man Bad club all went batshit and opposed HCQ for no logical reason.Quote:We're supposed to look at HCQ trials BEFORE 2020 even though they DIDN'T look at SAR-CoV-2?
I would hope that, since HCQ has had many decades track record, we could focus on Trials NOT dated 2020, but from one of the other dozens of years that HCQ has been prescribed.
Then how in god's name is anybody supposed to figure out if it works against the SAR-CoV-2 or not?
The study, led by researchers in Brazil, included 504 patients with confirmed Covid-19 who either needed no supplemental oxygen, or were receiving up to 4 liters per minute of oxygen. The study was conducted across 55 hospitals in Brazil.
The patients were randomly assigned to receive either standard of care; hydroxychloroquine at a dose of 400mg twice daily; or hydroxychloroquine at a dose of 400mg twice daily, plus azithromycin at a dose of 500mg once daily for seven days. The researchers then assessed how the patients were doing 15 days later.
Neither hydroxychloroquine alone nor hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin appeared to affect the condition of the patients at the 15-day mark, the study showed.
Additionally, unusual heart rhythms and elevated liver-enzyme levels were more frequent in patients receiving hydroxychloroquine alone or with azithromycin, according to the study.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/23/health/hydroxychloroquine-covid-bra
zil-study/index.html
Hydroxychloroquine has been shown effective at reelecting Donald J Trump. That is what this is all about, 1kiki.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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