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Saturday, September 26, 2020 1:45 AM

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The only person charged was the only person who didn't actually hit any persons. That was the $15,000 bond. That was the State only - the FBI Investigation continues, into how the mistakes of the Warrant happened, and who was responsible.
The rioters shooting cops should all be $15,000,000 bond.


Regarding the cop who didn't hit anybody, and then his rounds went through the walls and into other apartments: the 2 cops at the front door, Cosgrove and Mattington, had no obstructions, just a long hallway to shoot down, and of 22 shots fired, 6 hit. Both Breonna and Walker were facing them, so the target wa bigger for shooting. The Harkinson cop was perpendicular to this vector of fire, his target silhouette was far thinner, and easier to miss hitting, and also he was shooting through a side window, where glass will deflect the shots to some degree, and possibly even a wire screen window. Any reasonable person would expect his shots to miss far more often than the head-on shots from the front door.

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 2:53 AM

I'll let Vaush debunk your Russian troll bullshit.




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Saturday, September 26, 2020 6:53 AM

When Breoanna's reincarnation is of dating age I suggest she find better men to hang out with.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 8:34 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:
Sig, they did knock, the cop who shot her shot her threw her bedroom window not the front door. The more I read about this the more I'm sure the cops fucked up, that's why the city paid the family $12 mill. Go to Wikipedia and read about this, the MSM is only interested in burning Auto Parts Stores.



There is "no knock" and "quick knock", which are - in reality - the same thing.

Quick knock is when you knock and enter IMMEDIATELY The purpose of the "quick knock" is the same as the "no knock": to get in before anyone can dispose of evidence. It MIGHT be useful during the daytime to alert the residents that it's the police entering, but since most noknocks/quickknocks happen at night, it's doubtful that a bang on the door and a shouted POLICE! would wake up and alert the residents as to who is entering. Most people would be sleep-fogged and only cognizant that someone was breaking in.

So, did the police wait for the residents to open the door and let them in?

No?

Then it may have been a "quick knock", which is just a "no knock" with a pro forma knock on the door.

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 8:46 AM

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SIGNYM:
This isn't the first tragic death resulting from "no knock" or "quick knock" (knock and enter immediately) warrants, and unless noknock/quickknock searches are outlawed it won't be the last.

There's so much that can go wrong with no knock warrants, and when they're executed on innocent people what happens is often exactly what happened with Breonna Taylor: innocent people hear someone breaking in, shoot to defend themselves, and are killed in a fusilade of bullets.

The Supreme Court has allowed wide latitude to local judges and police to use no-knock warrants, local judges approve the vast majority of them, in some jurisdictions converting regular search warrants to no-knocks without even being requested by the police.

This is all part of the "war on drugs".

I say, end the practice of no-knock and quick-knock warrants. Police still have the authority to enter a home under exigent circumstances
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/exigent_circumstances and avoid the necessity of having any kind of warrant altogether, but there is a higher threshhold. And, to prevent police from fabricating/planting evidence to justify an unjustified "exigent circumstances" entry, every officer entering a home must be wearing a body cam.

Another practice that should be ended: civil asset forfeiture.

Chokeholds should also be outlawed. A knee on someone's neck no bueno. I have seen a knee on someone's upper back to restrain them while cuffing, tho, and that seems reasonable. Once cuffed, restraints should be let up. There is no reason to keep someone down forcibly if they're cuffed behind their back. And if police are worried about someone small "jump roping" their handcuffs, how about ankle shackles?

And for people who are just out of control (high on drugs, crazy, sick) I still think a tranquilizer dart might be a reasonable option, as long as EMTs are there to manage the resuts, otherwise you're left with tasers, physical restraints. batons, and bullets.

JSF: I have long thought No-Knock Warrants were a major problem. But without them, all the criminals rush to flush all evidence down the toilet before answering the door.
But No-Knock Warrants should have a far higher level of review and coordination/sychronization. Ensuring the address is correct, ensuring the occupants are correct, ensuring the officer seeking the warrant relays every detail to the Entry Team. The "supervisors" or authoritive party should be held more at much higher level of responsibility, and they are not.

Asset Forfeiture has always been a problem. If not deleted, it should at minimum be severely tweaked.

Well, get the sanitation department to block their sewer, then.

Police can ALWAYS enter on "exigent circumstances"

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Definition

Exigent circumstances - circumstances would cause a reasonable person to believe that entry (or other relevant prompt action) was necessary to prevent physical harm to the officers or other persons, the destruction of relevant evidence, the escape of the suspect, or some other consequence improperly frustrating legitimate law enforcement efforts."

There is no need for no-knock warrants, as far as I can tell.

By relying on "exigent circumstances", the detectives and police at the door are following a trail of evidence to that location, not relying on some piece of paper that can be fucked up.

And they STILL should all be wearing body cams, because it's way tooo easy to drop a bag of cocaine on the scene and claim that drugs were already there.



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Saturday, September 26, 2020 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
When Breoanna's reincarnation is of dating age I suggest she find better men to hang out with.





Under that B.S. theory, every women that has ever known 6ix is in danger

Fucking moron.


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Saturday, September 26, 2020 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Outside of Crazyworld, how does this work when they are renting an apartment? The pregnant women next door was more desirable to the developers than the EMT?



Sorry, I hadn't seen the updated version since it happened... they executed HER because HE would not get out. Guess they got the message...



https://www.thecut.com/2020/09/breonna-taylor-louisville-shooting-poli
ce-what-we-know.html


"In an amended complaint to their lawsuit, Taylor’s lawyers add the claim that Glover himself was unjustly targeted by a special police squad called Place-Based Investigation, because he was one of the “primary roadblocks” to gentrification in the area — the Russell neighborhood of Louisville in which Glover rented his home is part of a multimillion-dollar city revitalization effort called Vision Russell. According to the complaint, Glover was arrested for a second time on April 23. The city then moved to purchase his house, one of several recent foreclosure acquisitions in the area; in June, the city finally acquired it for $17,000. Taylor’s attorneys argue that Taylor was included in the search warrant targeted at Glover as part of the trumped-up set of accusations against him, fueled by the city’s desire to remove him from the neighborhood."


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Saturday, September 26, 2020 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I know about her is that her parents didn't know how to spell Brianna.




All I know is that 6ix's parents have severe mental defects and should have been barred from breeding.


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Saturday, September 26, 2020 10:52 AM

I bet myself that no cops would be charged because they followed the rules.

It's the rules that are fucked up, that should be on trial.

Here we have 2 people who didn't do anything wrong, who were confronted with people violently breaking into their home, in the middle of the night, while they were sleeping.

Jeeze.

How could it be that nobody in authority foresaw the potential for things to go wrong with no-knock warrants in the middle of the night?

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I bet myself that no cops would be charged because they followed the rules.

It's the rules that are fucked up, that should be on trial.

Here we have 2 people who didn't do anything wrong, who were confronted with people violently breaking into their home, in the middle of the night, while they were sleeping.

Jeeze.

How could it be that nobody in authority foresaw the potential for things to go wrong with no-knock warrants in the middle of the night?

You don't need to "foresee", all you need is to look at history.

The exact same thing happened just a few years ago, except it was a man that was killed, not a woman. It boggles the mind that noknock/quicknock warrants are still being issued.

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