Breoanna Taylor Details Discussion
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Saturday, August 24, 2024 00:52
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Pro tip: If you're going to break into someone's house, just yell "Police!" as you are doing so. They can't legally stop you!
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Holy false equivalence, Batman!
This is how we know YOU are stupid, stupid.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Pro tip: If you're going to break into someone's house, just yell "Police!" as you are doing so. They can't legally stop you!
Seriously - how do you make "No Knock Warrant" & "Castle Doctrine" work in the same universe?
"I didn't hear them say "Police."
"We definitely said, 'Police!'"
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This isn't the first tragic death resulting from "no knock" or "quick knock" (knock and enter immediately) warrants, and unless noknock/quickknock searches are outlawed it won't be the last.
There's so much that can go wrong with no knock warrants, and when they're executed on innocent people what happens is often exactly what happened with Breonna Taylor: innocent people hear someone breaking in, shoot to defend themselves, and are killed in a fusilade of bullets.
The Supreme Court has allowed wide latitude to local judges and police to use no-knock warrants, local judges approve the vast majority of them, in some jurisdictions converting regular search warrants to no-knocks without even being requested by the police.
This is all part of the "war on drugs".
I say, end the practice of no-knock and quick-knock warrants. Police still have the authority to enter a home under exigent circumstances
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/exigent_circumstances and avoid the necessity of having any kind of warrant altogether, but there is a higher threshhold. And, to prevent police from fabricating/planting evidence to justify an unjustified "exigent circumstances" entry, every officer entering a home must be wearing a body cam.
Another practice that should be ended: civil asset forfeiture.
Chokeholds should also be outlawed. A knee on someone's neck no bueno. I have seen a knee on someone's upper back to restrain them while cuffing, tho, and that seems reasonable. Once cuffed, restraints should be let up. There is no reason to keep someone down forcibly if they're cuffed behind their back. And if police are worried about someone small "jump roping" their handcuffs, how about ankle shackles?
And for people who are just out of control (high on drugs, crazy, sick) I still think a tranquilizer dart might be a reasonable option, as long as EMTs are there to manage the resuts, otherwise you're left with tasers, physical restraints. batons, and bullets.
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It's just a big cover up.
One “witness” said they heard the cops announce themselves, 12 others did not. Ms. Taylor’s boyfriend was told to lie by the cops, so do we really think this “witness” heard what they say they heard, or do we think the cops just threatened them until they agreed to lie? Considering the state of the police in America, it’s likely they threatened to jail the witness on some trumped-up charge if they didn’t lie. Poor person probably had a warrant against them, or one of the cops dropped a bag of crack and pinned it on them.
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Sig, they did knock, the cop who shot her shot her threw her bedroom window not the front door. The more I read about this the more I'm sure the cops fucked up, that's why the city paid the family $12 mill. Go to Wikipedia and read about this, the MSM is only interested in burning Auto Parts Stores.
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Quote:Outside of Crazyworld, how does this work when they are renting an apartment? The pregnant women next door was more desirable to the developers than the EMT?
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
She was (I think) the fifth no-knock in the area which also just happens to be an area in development.
I have ZERO doubts they executed her for not selling out.
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Quote:As I understand, body cams in most jurisdictions are primarily assigned to beat cops, street cops, patrol.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Detectives were not, beat cops were.
Originally posted by whozit:
LPD said they were not wearing body cams...odd?
Detectives are mostly not assigned body cams. They have more experience, seniority, fewer events like this.
I am in Green Bay, and although I had thought GBPD had bodycams, apparently they do not now. So currently the Packers have worked out some gift for them to all get bodycams. When I heard the price tag it was staggering.
But I don't think it is unusual for Detectives to not be wearing bodycams. But they were on a seperate duty, serving a Warrant. I think it would be a good idea to have extra bodycams for time when a unit is doing something different than sitting at a desk, like serving Warrants or forced entry.
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Quote:I have long thought No-Knock Warrants were a major problem. But without them, all the criminals rush to flush all evidence down the toilet before answering the door.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This isn't the first tragic death resulting from "no knock" or "quick knock" (knock and enter immediately) warrants, and unless noknock/quickknock searches are outlawed it won't be the last.
There's so much that can go wrong with no knock warrants, and when they're executed on innocent people what happens is often exactly what happened with Breonna Taylor: innocent people hear someone breaking in, shoot to defend themselves, and are killed in a fusilade of bullets.
The Supreme Court has allowed wide latitude to local judges and police to use no-knock warrants, local judges approve the vast majority of them, in some jurisdictions converting regular search warrants to no-knocks without even being requested by the police.
This is all part of the "war on drugs".
I say, end the practice of no-knock and quick-knock warrants. Police still have the authority to enter a home under exigent circumstances
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/exigent_circumstances and avoid the necessity of having any kind of warrant altogether, but there is a higher threshhold. And, to prevent police from fabricating/planting evidence to justify an unjustified "exigent circumstances" entry, every officer entering a home must be wearing a body cam.
Another practice that should be ended: civil asset forfeiture.
Chokeholds should also be outlawed. A knee on someone's neck no bueno. I have seen a knee on someone's upper back to restrain them while cuffing, tho, and that seems reasonable. Once cuffed, restraints should be let up. There is no reason to keep someone down forcibly if they're cuffed behind their back. And if police are worried about someone small "jump roping" their handcuffs, how about ankle shackles?
And for people who are just out of control (high on drugs, crazy, sick) I still think a tranquilizer dart might be a reasonable option, as long as EMTs are there to manage the resuts, otherwise you're left with tasers, physical restraints. batons, and bullets.
But No-Knock Warrants should have a far higher level of review and coordination/sychronization. Ensuring the address is correct, ensuring the occupants are correct, ensuring the officer seeking the warrant relays every detail to the Entry Team. The "supervisors" or authoritive party should be held more at much higher level of responsibility, and they are not.
Asset Forfeiture has always been a problem. If not deleted, it should at minimum be severely tweaked.
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