Has Any American Killed More Americans Than Donald Trump?
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So Donald Trump copped to it. He told Bob Woodward that he knew how deadly the virus was—and downplayed it anyway, encouraging MAGA nation to act as if COVID-19 was a cheap Chinese knockoff of the flu.
“It’s remarkable that in these interviews, the president of the United States confessed to fucking manslaughter,” Molly Jong-Fast says on the latest episode of The New Abnormal.
The lawyers might debate whether Trump has any criminal culpability. But to Rick Wilson, there’s no question about Trump’s moral responsibility.
“No American has killed more of their fellow Americans in this country than Donald Trump, except for Robert E. Lee and Jefferson fucking Davis,” he says. “No one has a body count to rival Trump’s. He knew it. He knew it was there. He did it. He let it happen. It is the most unbelievable and horrifying outcome that we can imagine.”
Molly adds, “Mike Pence was at a pro-life event the other day. And I was thinking about the irony, right? This administration has killed 100,000 plus plus plus people. And they’re talking about embryos. Like, it’s almost beyond parody.”
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The other plague Trump has downplayed: white supremacist violence
While the president claims ‘radical leftists’ are terrorizing America, DHS says white extremists pose the nation’s most ‘persistent and lethal’ threat.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/09/10/opinion/other-plague-trump-has-
downplayed-white-supremacist-violence/
Not Al-Qaeda. Not Isis. Not MS-13. Not Antifa.
According to an unpublished Department of Homeland Security draft report, white supremacists are the nation’s most “persistent and lethal” terror threat. Or, as President Trump prefers to call them, his “base.”
COVID-19 isn’t the only deadly plague the president has downplayed, to devastating effect, during his White House tenure. Since Trump declared his candidacy more than five years ago, hate crimes, ranging from vandalism to murder, have surged, hitting a 16-year high in 2018, according to the FBI. That includes an unchecked rise of white supremacist terrorism that has not only proliferated with Trump in office, but has been emboldened by his refusal to condemn it.
This is how averse Trump is to the idea of white supremacy as a malevolent force: In a whistleblower complaint recently released by the House Intelligence Committee, Brian Murphy, who once led DHS’s intelligence branch, said he was pressured by Ken Cuccinelli, the agency’s deputy secretary, to make the threat of white supremacy “appear less severe." Murphy said he was ordered to push a narrative about “left-wing” and “anarchist” groups to better echo Trump’s white fear-churning public comments.
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Trump mishandled the pandemic response, OTOH there wasn't a lot of practical help he could offer. He couldn't make PPEs (masks) and ventilators magically appear, and the one drug that was showing promise as a preventative (HCQ) was the target of a campaign by big pharma and liberaloids to descredit it.
That, and mismanagement by many state governors didn't help.
So, closing the borders was a good first move. I'm not sure if Trump actually has the authority order a nationwide lockdown, but maybe he could have temporarily stopped interstate travel. And it would have been far better to get behind masking early on, but you have to realize that even WHO and CDC were saying "masks don't work" , so he was just following the advice of the technical experts. Plus the CDC bolloxed the rollout of their testing program, delaying it by a month.
Given the sorry state of our medical insurance and healthcare system, and the shabby state of our economy (which forces people to work, sick or well), the fact that we don't even make masks and hand sanitizers here in the USA anymore leading to a broken supply chain, the bolloxed testing program, plus the HUGE mismanagement of "assisted living" facilities .... sending "recovering" Covid patients to old folks homes, where they could infect thousands of vulnerable people... REALLY, governor Cuomo? .... the USA response was ineffective. There were just too many innstitutionalied problems, decades in the making, to overcome.
In the best of all circumstances, Trump might have been able to prevent about half of the deaths by cheerleading individual and state response.
But if he had implemented an onerous lockdown (again, assuming he had the power to do so) the TDSers would have been complaining about Trump's rush towards "fascism".
And don't tell me that you wouldn't be, because I know you would.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
BTW, even JOHN BOLTON, fired by Trump and certainly no fan, said that TRUMP NEVER CALLED DEAD VETERANS "LOSERS". Bolton was there, and he knows what Trump did and didn't say. Unlike you, and unlike the "anonymous sources" for The Atlantic who don't mind making shit up.
Please stop repeating "anonymous" lies.
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Xi was responsible for all of the deaths that happened due to COVID worldwide.
Maybe if everybody wakes up and stops sucking Chinese dick, we can call it the act of war that it was against the entire world.
But that's not going to happen because in 2020 we can't even call a riot a riot.
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Americans killed Americans?
McNamara, FDR, Jefferson Davis, Woodrow Wilson, LBJ. But they are all Democraps, so bots don't know about them.
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Quote:After Bama/Obiden deleted the entire FEMA stockpile, and then refused to allow them to be replentished.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump mishandled the pandemic response, OTOH there wasn't a lot of practical help he could offer. He couldn't make PPEs (masks)
Quote:After Cuomo and DeBlasio sold off all of the Ventilators that the Feds had given them, to pad their retirement accounts.
and ventilators magically appear,
Quote:After Trump mentioned it in a presser, all of the TDSers, Libtards known as MSM/Fakje News, Democraps, Socialist, Progressives constantly railed against it - hoping folk would just die off.
and the one drug that was showing promise as a preventative (HCQ) was the target of a campaign by big pharma and liberaloids to descredit it.
Quote:Translation: Democrap Governors.
That, and mismanagement by many state governors didn't help.
Quote:Don't forget Wittmer in MI doing the same.
So, closing the borders was a good first move. I'm not sure if Trump actually has the authority order a nationwide lockdown, but maybe he could have temporarily stopped interstate travel. And it would have been far better to get behind masking early on, but you have to realize that even WHO and CDC were saying "masks don't work" , so he was just following the advice of the technical experts. Plus the CDC bolloxed the rollout of their testing program, delaying it by a month.
Given the sorry state of our medical insurance and healthcare system, and the shabby state of our economy (which forces people to work, sick or well), the fact that we don't even make masks and hand sanitizers here in the USA anymore leading to a broken supply chain, the bolloxed testing program, plus the HUGE mismanagement of "assisted living" facilities .... sending "recovering" Covid patients to old folks homes, where they could infect thousands of vulnerable people... REALLY, governor Cuomo?
Quote:
.... the USA response was ineffective. There were just too many innstitutionalied problems, decades in the making, to overcome.
In the best of all circumstances, Trump might have been able to prevent about half of the deaths by cheerleading individual and state response.
But if he had implemented an onerous lockdown (again, assuming he had the power to do so) the TDSers would have been complaining about Trump's rush towards "fascism".
And don't tell me that you wouldn't be, because I know you would.
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Quote:Whataboutism is not a valid argument.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Americans killed Americans?
McNamara, FDR, Jefferson Davis, Woodrow Wilson, LBJ. But they are all Democraps, so bots don't know about them.
It's a common Russian troll tactic, though. Suits you perfectly.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Whataboutism is not a valid argument.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Americans killed Americans?
McNamara, FDR, Jefferson Davis, Woodrow Wilson, LBJ. But they are all Democraps, so bots don't know about them.
It's a common Russian troll tactic, though. Suits you perfectly.
You are the fucking Commie on the board.
Your lack of self awareness is hilarious.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Whataboutism is not a valid argument.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Americans killed Americans?
McNamara, FDR, Jefferson Davis, Woodrow Wilson, LBJ. But they are all Democraps, so bots don't know about them.
It's a common Russian troll tactic, though. Suits you perfectly.
You are the fucking Commie on the board.
Your lack of self awareness is hilarious.
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Regarding the Q in the title, what was the name of that guy who saw everybody evacuating from the WTC South Tower under the Evacuation Alarm, and ordered everybody back to work, back to their offices, so they could all be killed when it collapsed? That guy was a winner, and all the folk who abided his ludicrous demands proved what sheeple they were.
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Quote:Dood, THE TITLE OF THE THREAD ITSELF IS ASKING FOR A COMPARISON I.E. "WHATABOUTISM".
JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Americans killed Americans?
McNamara, FDR, Jefferson Davis, Woodrow Wilson, LBJ. But they are all Democraps, so bots don't know about them.
REAVERBOT: Whataboutism is not a valid argument.)
Is thinking not your native skill??
And BTW at this point you seem to have detected FIVE "Russian trolls" on this board! That's a lot of Russian trolls for one insignificant website!
You and "Russians" are like TWITCHY and "fascists" ... you see them everywhere, especially when they're not there!
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Quote:Trump is indeed responsible for more deaths than anybody. His incompetence is overwhelming, his treason worthy of the death penalty.
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Dood, THE TITLE OF THE THREAD ITSELF IS ASKING FOR A COMPARISON I.E. "WHATABOUTISM".
JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Americans killed Americans?
McNamara, FDR, Jefferson Davis, Woodrow Wilson, LBJ. But they are all Democraps, so bots don't know about them.
REAVERBOT: Whataboutism is not a valid argument.)
Is thinking not your native skill??
And BTW at this point you seem to have detected FIVE "Russian trolls" on this board! That's a lot of Russian trolls for one insignificant website!
You and "Russians" are like TWITCHY and "fascists" ... you see them everywhere, especially when they're not there!
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I remain, as always, the one who adheres to facts and reliable data, not a lying Russian troll like you, who relies on deflection and misinformation to make your false points.
Hey, I'm always right. That's just how it is.
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The trolls will distract with all manner of shit that falls into a different category like war. Americas are dying today due to incompetence. That's a big fucking difference. And the trolls won't post that more Americans have died so far from the virus, then in many of our most recent wars combined. Since the Revolutionary War ended, 646,596 American troops have died in battle. 500,000 died in the civil war. That means 146,596 have died in combat since.
We're well past that number now. By the end of December we are expected to have 400,000 dead; then what?
shoo trolls
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Covid-19 death-toll by Jan 1, 2021
www.healthdata.org/news-release/first-covid-19-global-forecast-ihme-pr
ojects-three-quarters-million-lives-could-be
United States of America:
Most likely scenario
410,451 (range of 347,551 – 515,272)
Worse-case scenario
620,029 (range of 463,361 – 874,649)
Best-case scenario
288,381 (range of 257,286 – 327,775)
The Institute modeled three scenarios:
A “most likely” scenario that assumes individual mask use and other mitigation measures remain unchanged.
A “worse case” in which mask usage stays at current rates and governments continue relaxing social distancing requirements.
A “best case” if mask usage is near-universal and governments impose social distancing requirements when their daily death rate exceeds 8 per million.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:There is the defense production act, which Trump invoked for ventilators but not for masks and other ppe, or testing. And he could have used the federal government's clout to purchase supplies nationally to be distributed for states to use, instead of states having to bid against each other.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump mishandled the pandemic response, OTOH there wasn't a lot of practical help he could offer. He couldn't make PPEs (masks) and ventilators magically appear
Quote:It also showed a lot of fatal side effects, which can't be ignored if you're going to use a drug on millions of people. It needed and still needs to be tested thoroughly.
and the one drug that was showing promise as a preventative (HCQ) was the target of a campaign by big pharma and liberaloids to discredit it.
Quote:Like having to bid against each other for ventilators and ppe?
That, and mismanagement by many state governors didn't help.
Quote:And have led by example.
So, closing the borders was a good first move. I'm not sure if Trump actually has the authority order a nationwide lockdown, but maybe he could have temporarily stopped interstate travel.
Quote:Trump NEVER got behind masking. The CDC was a month late but they changed their tune reasonably quickly. What's Trump's excuse?
And it would have been far better to get behind masking early on, but you have to realize that even WHO and CDC were saying "masks don't work", so he was just following the advice of the technical experts.
Quote:The WH should have been bird-dogging this, and asking about alternatives (like the already available WHO test).
Plus the CDC bollixed the rollout of their testing program, delaying it by a month.
Quote:Yep. There were a lot of problems. The poor economy with no-benefits jobs making people needing to work sick or not ... the horrible state of our health care so-called system, I'll give you that. I'll even add the horrible chronic underpayment of people who really ARE essential, the burden of at risk people, the fractured, siloed nature of medicine including testing capacity ... and I'm sure I missed a lot.
Given the sorry state of our medical insurance and healthcare system, and the shabby state of our economy (which forces people to work, sick or well)
Quote:Yes, we do.
the fact that we don't even make masks and hand sanitizers here in the USA anymore leading to a broken supply chain
Quote:The vast, VAST majority of infections in care homes came from before, not after. Studies have shown it wasn't what you assume it was.
the bollixed testing program, plus the HUGE mismanagement of "assisted living" facilities .... sending "recovering" Covid patients to old folks homes, where they could infect thousands of vulnerable people... REALLY, governor Cuomo? ....
Quote:There were a LOT of baked-in problems!
the USA response was ineffective. There were just too many institutionalized problems, decades in the making, to overcome.
Quote:I don't think anyone thought US deaths were going to be zero, no matter what. Not preventing 100,000 deaths - that's a significant failure.
In the best of all circumstances, Trump might have been able to prevent about half of the deaths by cheerleading individual and state response.
Quote:I'm sure they would have.
But if he had implemented an onerous lockdown (again, assuming he had the power to do so) the TDSers would have been complaining about Trump's rush towards "fascism".
And don't tell me that you wouldn't be, because I know you would.
Quote:But there was a lot Trump failed to do short of a national lockdown, which made things far worse than they should have been.
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“The Final Push” shows Trump on a golf cart pushed by Fox News hosts Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham, and a cameraman alongside while the cart crashes through a cemetery. Inscribed on the tombstones is a quote from Trump about the pandemic, “It is what it is.” Another one says “In tragic memory of ‘LOSER.'”
https://untappedcities.com/2020/09/10/gold-statue-donald-trump-golf-ca
rt/
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
You brainwashed fags don't get to use They Live.
I told Cap'n Cuckklefuck that years ago.
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Originally posted by THG:
The trolls will distract with all manner of shit that falls into a different category like war. Americas are dying today due to incompetence. That's a big fucking difference. And the trolls won't post that more Americans have died so far from the virus, then in many of our most recent wars combined. Since the Revolutionary War ended, 646,596 American troops have died in battle. 500,000 died in the civil war. That means 146,596 have died in combat since.
We're well past that number now. By the end of December we are expected to have 400,000 dead; then what?
shoo trolls
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
You're lying media was telling everybody there was going to be over 2 Million Covid deaths by the end of the year.
HUGE win for Trump. He saved 1.6 Million lives.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
The trolls will distract with all manner of shit that falls into a different category like war. Americas are dying today due to incompetence. That's a big fucking difference. And the trolls won't post that more Americans have died so far from the virus, then in many of our most recent wars combined. Since the Revolutionary War ended, 646,596 American troops have died in battle. 500,000 died in the civil war. That means 146,596 have died in combat since.
We're well past that number now. By the end of December we are expected to have 400,000 dead; then what?
shoo trolls
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
You're lying media was telling everybody there was going to be over 2 Million Covid deaths by the end of the year.
HUGE win for Trump. He saved 1.6 Million lives.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:When Trump first told that fake story, he had saved 2 million lives in his estimation. Read the story about the Imperial College of Medicine's worst case scenario, the one where everything imaginable goes wrong in the worst possible way and everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're lying media was telling everybody there was going to be over 2 Million Covid deaths by the end of the year.
HUGE win for Trump. He saved 1.6 Million lives.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths
-covid-19
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:When Trump first told that fake story, he had saved 2 million lives in his estimation. Read the story about the Imperial College of Medicine's worst case scenario, the one where everything imaginable goes wrong in the worst possible way and everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're lying media was telling everybody there was going to be over 2 Million Covid deaths by the end of the year.
HUGE win for Trump. He saved 1.6 Million lives.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths
-covid-19
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
No. Not Trump.
YOU DUMB FUCKS WERE SAYING THAT.
I know you don't remember what they told you to regurgitate yesterday, so you're not going to remember this either.
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so, been busy today and not much time to catch up. Who is Ben Wexler, and why is he such an idiot?
There is not a single instance of Trump "gassing his own people" so Wexler's a fucking liar.
And REAVERBOT relaying lies? Why am I not surprised?
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Quote:And by tomorrow they'll have forgotten what they said today. But the spittle will still be there.
No. Not Trump.
YOU DUMB FUCKS WERE SAYING THAT.
I know you don't remember what they told you to regurgitate yesterday, so you're not going to remember this either.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You can say "let there be light!" but light doesn't necessarily appear, and neither do masks and ventilators.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump mishandled the pandemic response, OTOH there wasn't a lot of practical help he could offer. He couldn't make PPEs (masks) and ventilators magically appear
KIKI: There is the defense production act, which Trump invoked for ventilators but not for masks and other ppe, or testing. And he could have used the federal government's clout to purchase supplies nationally to be distributed for states to use, instead of states having to bid against each other.
AFAIK, there was very little ACTUAL PRODUCTION of these items in the USA, and it takes time to tool up a factory for production. Just look at how long it took the paper mills to switch over to household toilet paper instead of institutional.
3M, for example. Everyone wants their N95s, and they are an American company, but their ACTUAL PRODUCTION is mostly in China. And their production is contracted ... already spoken for. Given that the ACTUAL PRODUCTION is thousands of miles away and under another government, it would be impossible to commandeer the masks.
Quote:So, if China made half of the masks. and you divvy up the rest of production across the rest of the world. what does that USA account for? 10%?
There are several reasons for the shortage. Before the coronavirus emerged, China produced about half of the world’s masks
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although some of the factories were American brands like 3M that produced for the local [Chinese] market. The prolonged outbreak in China reduced the supply, and during the outbreak production expanded by nearly 12-fold (to 115 million per month). The global inventory of masks was also diminished by the wildfires in California and Australia, which used up many of the supplies held by humanitarian organizations. So why can’t the masks be distributed?
Evidence suggests that China is “hoarding” the mask supply, and is not exporting masks. China has claimed mask factory output for itself, and during the outbreak, they also purchased most of the global inventory of masks from other countries.
https://scm.ncsu.edu/scm-articles/article/where-are-all-the-n95-masks-
a-supply-chain-dilemma
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... SIGNY and the one drug that was showing promise as a preventative (HCQ) was the target of a campaign by big pharma and liberaloids to discredit it.
KIKI: It also showed a lot of fatal side effects, which can't be ignored if you're going to use a drug on millions of people. It needed and still needs to be tested thoroughly.
HCQ has been in routine use FOR DECADES to prevent and treat malaria. Even our Canadian friend took it for the years that he was in Africa. It would probably be safe to say that hundreds of millions of doses have been distributed by now, and NOBODY has noted such terrible, fatal side effects until, SUDDENLY, now. Now, one might say that giving HCQ to late stage Covid patients in high to toxic-levels (like Britain did) is a different story, but NOBODY (except some medical establishment) was suggesting it as a late-stage treatment. It was ALWAYS being promoted as a prophylactic by those who were advocating its use. YOU pulled up a compilation of HCQ tests which showed positive results as a pre- and post-exposure prophylactic. I know we discussed this already but you seem to keep forgetting that point. THIS IS ONLY ONE OF THOSE STUDIES
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Low-dose hydroxychloroquine therapy and mortality in hospitalised patients with COVID-19: a nationwide observational study of 8075 participants
ABSTRACT
Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) has been largely used and investigated as therapy for COVID-19 across various settings at a total dose usually ranging from 2400 mg to 9600 mg. In Belgium, off-label use of low-dose HCQ (total 2400 mg over 5 days) was recommended for hospitaliNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Signy: 3M makes - IN THE US - about 1.5Bs N95 a year (at least as of 5 years ago). That would be the low-end estimate of need during a pandemic.
Quote:Given that the highest demand was in NYC, which was very INtensive but not EXtensive, there should have been enough internal production for the outbreak, until such time as 3M ramped up production. HOWEVER, 3M refused to stop EXPORTING masks.
Ordinary N95 production in the US is estimated at 1.5 billion annually. A 2015 study by government public health researchers estimated that a flu pandemic similar to what is currently playing out would require 1.7 to 3.5 billion respirators, a figure that would increase to between 2.6 to 4.3 billion as more Americans become sick. Under a “maximum demand scenario” during which “all eligible health care and emergency response workers would use respirators from the beginning of the pandemic until its end,” 7.3 billion would be required. https://www.wired.com/story/defense-production-act-n95-masks-shortage-
covid-19/
The same is true for hand sanitizer. The US has more than adequate internal production capability to meet actual need.
https://reason.com/2020/04/02/the-fda-is-making-it-much-much-harder-fo
r-distilleries-to-produce-hand-sanitizer/
As for the other ingredients, the only one you really need is glycerin, produced in the US.
It's really lame to state Trump 'could have been a lot more forceful' about wearing masks. He was actively anti-mask the whole time in speech, with only 1 exception that I know of, and completely against masks at all times in personal behavior. I'll repeat: the CDC changed its advice on masks in a month. What's Trump's excuse?
"HCQ has been in routine use FOR DECADES to prevent and treat malaria."
So first of all, the anti-malarial dose is literally the lowest dosing schedule for the drug: a loading dose of 400mg/day x 2 days followed by 400mg/WEEK. Not QD or BID but per week.
When it comes to the 'chloroquine' family of drugs dosing, I want to reiterate from a while ago that they were based on Chinese recommendations that seemed to have some success. Nobody was dosing patients with the intent of killing them to make the drugs fail. The dosing schedules were a loading dose of 400mg/x2, followed by 400mgQD. This is the 3rd dosing level of 4 in the prescribing information, there is one higher.
And I want to point out, as I did a while ago, that EVEN THE PRESCRIBING INFORMATION CAUTIONS AGAINST SIDE EFFECTS. The manufacturer itself doesn't look on HCQ (or related drugs) as harmless.
Finally, prescribing a drug to an individual with individual follow-up isn't the same as giving it to thousands or tens of thousands of people at a time. The US Army was aware of this, which is why they ran large-scale testing and found that 10% of all Black or Mediterranean-descent males have the G6PD deficiency that will cause HCQ (and related drugs) to hemolyze their red blood cells, causing medical complications, even death. And I imagine the Belgium study had a really low percentage of people with the G6PD deficiency.
You can't hand out HCQ like candy, just in case it works.
Honestly, I'm not going to readdress your HCQ mania. You think it's a slam-dunk miracle cure, I think the jury is still out on risk v benefit.
You fault governors for 'mismanagement'. Yeah, I believe some governors DID mismanage their response to the pandemic!
But you seem to think there was some 'plan B' waiting in the wings.
No plan existed then, and no plan exists now. There's still too much unknown about what's important and what isn't.
Sturgis: superspreader event, or not? BLM protests/(riots): superspreader events, or not? Schools reopening: superspreader events, or not?
Some data says yes, some data says no. There just isn't enough data to pin all you hopes on particular interventions. I think we're still in the stage
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Quote:A month later that 2.2 million estimate was still being used (without revealing the source) by President Trump and Doctors Fauci and Birx to imply that up to two million lives had been saved by state lockdowns and business closings and/or by federal travel bans.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:When Trump first told that fake story, he had saved 2 million lives in his estimation. Read the story about the Imperial College of Medicine's worst case scenario, the one where everything imaginable goes wrong in the worst possible way and everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're lying media was telling everybody there was going to be over 2 Million Covid deaths by the end of the year.
HUGE win for Trump. He saved 1.6 Million lives.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths
-covid-19
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No. Not Trump.
YOU DUMB FUCKS WERE SAYING THAT.
I know you don't remember what they told you to regurgitate yesterday, so you're not going to remember this either.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://www.cato.org/blog/did-mitigation-save-two-million-lives
6ix, I have far too much experience with Republicans in particular and Americans in general lying to me, and all the while they are insisting they are the truth-tellers. I am intolerant of either their dimwitted confusion about what is false or their deliberate misleading statements that always seem to favor themselves and do me harm if I believe them.
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Poll Finds U.S. Allies Overwhelmingly (and Accurately) View Trump Coronavirus Response As “Bad”
Turns out, it’s not just non-Trumpy Americans that are disappointed in how their country has responded to the coronavirus—the rest of the world is even more appalled. A new, 13-nation survey by the Pew Research Center out this week found that belief in the U.S. and its leadership—which nosedived after the election of Donald Trump—has essentially fallen off a cliff as Trump has overseen America’s cataclysmic response to the pandemic. Pew found that traditional American allies now held a lower opinion of the U.S. than at any point over the past two decades.
Canada, Sweden, the United Kingdom, Italy and Spain? These aren’t exactly modern day hotbeds of anti-American sentiment. Trump and his nihilist politics of selfishness have, of course, played a significant role in that erosion of support, but, even more practically, the rest of the world simply has a more accurate understanding of the disastrous U.S. coronavirus response in absolute and comparative terms.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/pew-poll-american-allies-v
iew-trump-coronavirus-response-bad.html
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Originally posted by second:
Poll Finds U.S. Allies Overwhelmingly (and Accurately) View Trump Coronavirus Response As “Bad”
Turns out, it’s not just non-Trumpy Americans that are disappointed in how their country has responded to the coronavirus—the rest of the world is even more appalled. A new, 13-nation survey by the Pew Research Center out this week found that belief in the U.S. and its leadership—which nosedived after the election of Donald Trump—has essentially fallen off a cliff as Trump has overseen America’s cataclysmic response to the pandemic. Pew found that traditional American allies now held a lower opinion of the U.S. than at any point over the past two decades.
Canada, Sweden, the United Kingdom, Italy and Spain? These aren’t exactly modern day hotbeds of anti-American sentiment. Trump and his nihilist politics of selfishness have, of course, played a significant role in that erosion of support, but, even more practically, the rest of the world simply has a more accurate understanding of the disastrous U.S. coronavirus response in absolute and comparative terms.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/pew-poll-american-allies-v
iew-trump-coronavirus-response-bad.html
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Here's the methodology. Have fun reading that:
https://www.pewresearch.org/methodology/international-survey-research/
international-methodology/all-survey/all-country/all-year
There is zero mention of how many people were surveyed. Could have been 5 hand picked people from each country.
Bullshit that a site like Slate is more than happy to shovel down the mouths of its braindead audience.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:Quote:A month later that 2.2 million estimate was still being used (without revealing the source) by President Trump and Doctors Fauci and Birx to imply that up to two million lives had been saved by state lockdowns and business closings and/or by federal travel bans.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:When Trump first told that fake story, he had saved 2 million lives in his estimation. Read the story about the Imperial College of Medicine's worst case scenario, the one where everything imaginable goes wrong in the worst possible way and everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're lying media was telling everybody there was going to be over 2 Million Covid deaths by the end of the year.
HUGE win for Trump. He saved 1.6 Million lives.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths
-covid-19
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No. Not Trump.
YOU DUMB FUCKS WERE SAYING THAT.
I know you don't remember what they told you to regurgitate yesterday, so you're not going to remember this either.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://www.cato.org/blog/did-mitigation-save-two-million-lives
6ix, I have far too much experience with Republicans in particular and Americans in general lying to me, and all the while they are insisting they are the truth-tellers. I am intolerant of either their dimwitted confusion about what is false or their deliberate misleading statements that always seem to favor themselves and do me harm if I believe them.
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Yeah. I do too, Second.
That's why I can smell your bullshit all the way from Texas.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:6ix, you went to the wrong place. At the right place: These are among the major findings from a Pew Research Center survey conducted among 13,273 respondents in 13 countries – not including the U.S. – from June 10 to Aug. 3, 2020.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Here's the methodology. Have fun reading that:
https://www.pewresearch.org/methodology/international-survey-research/
international-methodology/all-survey/all-country/all-year
There is zero mention of how many people were surveyed. Could have been 5 hand picked people from each country.
Bullshit that a site like Slate is more than happy to shovel down the mouths of its braindead audience.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/09/15/us-image-plummets-internationall
y-as-most-say-country-has-handled-coronavirus-badly/
6ix, you and Trump get things wrong constantly because you have delusions about your high intelligence. Both you and Trump need several research assistants to point to real facts and correct your mistakes.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:You can say "let there be light!" but light doesn't necessarily appear, and neither do masks and ventilators.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump mishandled the pandemic response, OTOH there wasn't a lot of practical help he could offer. He couldn't make PPEs (masks) and ventilators magically appear
KIKI: There is the defense production act, which Trump invoked for ventilators but not for masks and other ppe, or testing. And he could have used the federal government's clout to purchase supplies nationally to be distributed for states to use, instead of states having to bid against each other.
AFAIK, there was very little ACTUAL PRODUCTION of these items in the USA, and it takes time to tool up a factory for production. Just look at how long it took the paper mills to switch over to household toilet paper instead of institutional.
3M, for example. Everyone wants their N95s, and they are an American company, but their ACTUAL PRODUCTION is mostly in China. And their production is contracted ... already spoken for. Given that the ACTUAL PRODUCTION is thousands of miles away and under another government, it would be impossible to commandeer the masks.Quote:So, if China made half of the masks. and you divvy up the rest of production across the rest of the world. what does that USA account for? 10%?
There are several reasons for the shortage. Before the coronavirus emerged, China produced about half of the world’s masksQuote:
although some of the factories were American brands like 3M that produced for the local [Chinese] market. The prolonged outbreak in China reduced the supply, and during the outbreak production expanded by nearly 12-fold (to 115 million per month). The global inventory of masks was also diminished by the wildfires in California and Australia, which used up many of the supplies held by humanitarian organizations. So why can’t the masks be distributed?
Evidence suggests that China is “hoarding” the mask supply, and is not exporting masks. China has claimed mask factory output for itself, and during the outbreak, they also purchased most of the global inventory of masks from other countries.
https://scm.ncsu.edu/scm-articles/article/where-are-all-the-n95-masks-
a-supply-chain-dilemmaQuote:
... SIGNY and the one drug that was showing promise as a preventative (HCQ) was the target of a campaign by big pharma and liberaloids to discredit it.
KIKI: It also showed a lot of fatal side effects, which can't be ignored if you're going to use a drug on millions of people. It needed and still needs to be tested thoroughly.
HCQ has been in routine use FOR DECADES to prevent and treat malaria. Even our Canadian friend took it for the years that he was in Africa. It would probably be safe to say that hundreds of millions of doses have been distributed by now, and NOBODY has noted such terrible, fatal side effects until, SUDDENLY, now. Now, one might say that giving HCQ to late stage Covid patients in high to toxic-levels (like Britain did) is a different story, but NOBODY (except some medical establishment) was suggesting it as a late-stage treatment. It was ALWAYS being promoted as a prophylactic by those who were advocating its use. YOU pulled up a compilation of HCQ tests which showed positive results as a pre- and post-exposure prophylactic. I know we discussed this already but you seem to keep forgetting that point. THIS IS ONLY ONE OF THOSE STUDIESQuote:
*****
Low-dose hydroxychloroquine therapy and mortality in hospitalised patients with COVID-19: a nationwide observational study of 8075 participants
ABSTRACT
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Quote:So instead of 22 million dead, we are at 200k. So that means Trump has saved 21.8 million lives so far.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:No. Not Trump.
Originally posted:Quote:When Trump first told that fake story, he had saved 2 million lives in his estimation. Read the story about the Imperial College of Medicine's worst case scenario, the one where everything imaginable goes wrong in the worst possible way and everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're lying media was telling everybody there was going to be over 2 Million Covid deaths by the end of the year.
HUGE win for Trump. He saved 1.6 Million lives.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths
-covid-19
YOU DUMB FUCKS WERE SAYING THAT.
I know you don't remember what they told you to regurgitate yesterday, so you're not going to remember this either.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Facts and real Maths keep getting in the way of Libtard Maths.
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Quote:You're lying media was telling everybody there was going to be over 2 Million Covid deaths by the end of the year.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted:
The trolls will distract with all manner of shit that falls into a different category like war. Americas are dying today due to incompetence. That's a big fucking difference. And the trolls won't post that more Americans have died so far from the virus, then in many of our most recent wars combined. Since the Revolutionary War ended, 646,596 American troops have died in battle. 500,000 died in the civil war. That means 146,596 have died in combat since.
We're well past that number now. By the end of December we are expected to have 400,000 dead; then what?
shoo trolls
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
HUGE win for Trump. He saved 1.6 Million lives.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Further evidence of the neverending stupidity of stupid Libtard Maths, and how obviously stupid it is to non-Libtards.
More than 13,900 Combat deaths prior to Civil War.
less than 215,000 Combat Deaths in Civil War.
666.4k Combat deaths total.
Therefore about 447.5k Combat deaths since Civil War.
Sorry if reality and facts get in the way of your Libtard delusions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_of_war
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You can't even test out their math skills half the time because they simply don't remember the bullshit they were parroting last week to even compare the two numbers.
The Legacy Media relies on stupid people to survive.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Trump said Don't Wear a Face Mask. The CDC Director said Masks may be better guaranteed COVID-19 protection than vaccines. If you don't wear a mask, which is what Trump is telling people to do, the Covid-19 death-toll by Jan 1, 2021, in the Worse-case scenario, will be 620,029 dead (range of 463,361 – 874,649) A “worse case” in which mask usage stays at current rates and governments continue relaxing social distancing requirements. That's a lot of dead people just because Trump wants to keep saying Don't Wear A Mask.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So instead of 22 million dead, we are at 200k. So that means Trump has saved 21.8 million lives so far.
Facts and real Maths keep getting in the way of Libtard Maths.
www.healthdata.org/news-release/first-covid-19-global-forecast-ihme-pr
ojects-three-quarters-million-lives-could-be
www.cbs8.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cdc-director-masks-may-be
-better-guaranteed-covid-19-protection-than-vaccines/507-fcee8211-5d1f-4e03-bf96-e961c1e0616c
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Fuck your masks.
And when Trump said you should wear them I said the same thing to him too.
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Quote:President Donald Trump caused some confusion during an ABC News town hall on Tuesday (Sept 15th) when he criticized Democratic nominee Joe Biden for not following through on a pledge to institute a mask mandate to control the spread of COVID-19 – even though Biden does not hold office – and citing restaurant servers as a group opposed to the use of masks.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck your masks.
And when Trump said you should wear them I said the same thing to him too.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
"A lot of people don’t want to wear masks," Trump said, immediately after his criticism of Biden for not implementing a mandate. "A lot of people think that masks are not good," he added.
"Who are those people?" asked Stephanopoulos.
"I’ll tell you who those people are: waiters," Trump said. "They come over and they serve you, and they have a mask. And I saw it the other day where they were serving me, and they're playing with the mask. I’m not blaming them, I’m just saying what happens. They're playing with the mask, so the mask is over, and they're touching it, and then they're touching the plate. That can’t be good."
"They said very strongly, George, don’t wear masks. Then all of a sudden they went to wear masks," Trump said.
"The concept of a mask is good," Trump added, before repeating his concerns about people touching their masks. "There are people that don’t think masks are good."
Trump is completely out of his dinky mind.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/16/trum
p-town-hall-biden-masks/5814307002/
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Nobody cares.
Your fucking TDS has been nonstop, 365 for the last 4 years.
Get a fucking life.
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Quote:6ix, you won't wear a mask. As long as I can remember, many shops and restaurants have had signs on their doors proclaiming “no shirt, no shoes, no service.” How many of these establishments have been stormed by mobs of bare-chested protesters? Anti-mask agitation by Trump isn’t really about freedom, or individualism, or culture. It’s a declaration of political allegiance, driven by Trump and his allies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
Your fucking TDS has been nonstop, 365 for the last 4 years.
Get a fucking life.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
But why make a partisan issue out of what should be straightforward public health policy? The fairly obvious answer is that we’re looking at the efforts of an amoral politician to rescue his flailing campaign. So his latest ploy is an attempt to convince people that the Covid-19 threat is over. But widespread mask-wearing is a constant reminder that the virus is still out there. Hence Trump’s renewed push against the simplest, most sensible of public health precautions.
As a political strategy, this ploy probably won’t work. But it will lead to a lot of unnecessary deaths.
6ix, you live on $4,500 per year because you are deranged in the brain. My reference?
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63720&mid=11044
97#1104497
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Has ZERO to do with Trump, fuckwit.
I told him on his youtube channel to go fuck himself when he said people should wear masks.
You wear a mask, bitch. I ain't wearing one.
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Here's an idea for all you authoriKarens...
Double up. Wear two fucking masks when you go out. That way you don't have to worry about all the sane people out there that aren't wearing one.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Here's an idea for all you authoriKarens...
Double up. Wear two fucking masks when you go out. That way you don't have to worry about all the sane people out there that aren't wearing one.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Michael Steele, the former chairman of the Republican National Committee, sharply criticized President Donald Trump's supporters. "I'm exhausted, I'm exasperated ... The fact that we have to literally beg people to wear a mask to save their own dumb a** from getting sick? I'm sorry. To me, it is beyond the imagination."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Here's an idea for all you authoriKarens...
Double up. Wear two fucking masks when you go out. That way you don't have to worry about all the sane people out there that aren't wearing one.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
"And yet 40% of the country looks at it and goes, 'Yeah, I'm with stupid.' "
"This President stands at a podium today and not only contradicts his CDC director, but basically says he perjured himself under oath before Congress because he is saying something different than Donald Trump," Steele said. "The CDC director is telling us the truth. Donald Trump is literally lying to us."
https://www.997wtn.com/news/ex-republican-party-chairman-michael-steel
e-rips-trump-supporters-yeah-im-with-stupid/
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Fuck Michael Steele too.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Michael Steele, the former chairman of the Republican National Committee, sharply criticized President Donald Trump's supporters. "I'm exhausted, I'm exasperated ... The fact that we have to literally beg people to wear a mask to save their own dumb a** from getting sick? I'm sorry. To me, it is beyond the imagination."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Michael Steele too.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
"And yet 40% of the country looks at it and goes, 'Yeah, I'm with stupid.' "
Today it is 43.3% approve of Trump, sharing responsibility for what he does.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
"This President stands at a podium today and not only contradicts his CDC director, but basically says he perjured himself under oath before Congress because he is saying something different than Donald Trump," Steele said. "The CDC director is telling us the truth. Donald Trump is literally lying to us."
https://www.997wtn.com/news/ex-republican-party-chairman-michael-steel
e-rips-trump-supporters-yeah-im-with-stupid/
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Michael Steele, the former chairman of the Republican National Committee, sharply criticized President Donald Trump's supporters. "I'm exhausted, I'm exasperated ... The fact that we have to literally beg people to wear a mask to save their own dumb a** from getting sick? I'm sorry. To me, it is beyond the imagination."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Michael Steele too.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
"And yet 40% of the country looks at it and goes, 'Yeah, I'm with stupid.' "
Today it is 43.3% approve of Trump, sharing responsibility for what he does.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
"This President stands at a podium today and not only contradicts his CDC director, but basically says he perjured himself under oath before Congress because he is saying something different than Donald Trump," Steele said. "The CDC director is telling us the truth. Donald Trump is literally lying to us."
https://www.997wtn.com/news/ex-republican-party-chairman-michael-steel
e-rips-trump-supporters-yeah-im-with-stupid/
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There's plenty of Mask Karens that support Trump.
Plenty of people who were burning shit down that didn't wear masks too.
Go fuck yourself, Second.
Let's not pretend that The Coomph is the only thing that people are thinking about in 2020. Even the Legacy Media isn't doing that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I see everyday why the "thinking" that 99% of Americans do won't get what they want. There are so many extremely simple things they can't/won't even try to comprehend until it is too late and their lives are flooded with woe. To them, it seems like random bad luck. To me, it's predictable what happened to them and how they could have avoided the disasters they live in. There are, for example, flood maps to tell them where not to live: ( www.harriscountyfemt.org ) 99% of Americans have never seen a flood map. If Trump heard about flood maps, he'd tear them up because maps interfere with real estate speculation. So long as it is not raining, Trump and 99% of Americans don't care where floods will be according to the maps. Like flood maps, there are nuclear weapons treaties to save lives. 99% of Americans know nothing about those treaties ( www.documentcloud.org/documents/2165399-full-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's plenty of Mask Karens that support Trump.
Plenty of people who were burning shit down that didn't wear masks too.
Go fuck yourself, Second.
Let's not pretend that The Coomph is the only thing that people are thinking about in 2020. Even the Legacy Media isn't doing that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
deal ). Trump has torn up every treaty he can. So long as the nukes are not raining down from the sky, Trump can get away with no treaties protecting Americans. Then there is Covid-19. You have to be a very stubborn American not to understand it, but still, most don't. At least it is not 99% not understanding. Trump has torn up masks as he has torn up much else. So long as the coronavirus doesn't fall from sky on you, all is well, at least as far ahead as many Americans can "think".
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US President Donald Trump, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Brazilian leader Jair Bolsonaro won the Ig Nobel "Medical Education Award" for using the pandemic to teach the world that "politicians can have a more immediate effect on life and death than scientists and doctors can" -- a not-so-subtle dig at those politicians' handling of the coronavirus crisis.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/us/ig-nobel-awards-alligator-helium-scl
i-scn-intl/index.html
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Don't you ever get exhausted being wrong about everything all of the time?
Take a Trump break, dude. You haven't changed a single person's mind in 4 years of posting your bullshit, and apparently the man is the only thing you ever think of anymore.
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Quote:He is sprinting uphill. There is nothing else he can do.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't you ever get exhausted being wrong about everything all of the time?
Take a Trump break, dude. You haven't changed a single person's mind in 4 years of posting your bullshit, and apparently the man is the only thing you ever think of anymore.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Yup. It's pretty gross to watch.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Cultists like yourself can't be persuaded with reason, logic, or facts. They're too deeply invested in the lie.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't you ever get exhausted being wrong about everything all of the time?
Take a Trump break, dude. You haven't changed a single person's mind in 4 years of posting your bullshit, and apparently the man is the only thing you ever think of anymore.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Admitting that they're wrong causes too much cognitive dissonance.
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lol
Everything you post is bullshit. Everything.
GTFO my country. You aren't welcome here anymore.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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