FIREFLY: THE VIRTUAL SEASON

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UPDATED: Monday, January 27, 2003 00:33
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GUAILO

Saturday, January 11, 2003 12:36 AM

I think Mal stays pretty much the same, as does Inara. They are the solidity of the show and so they shouldn't change much. Maybe get closer and get at more of thier "hang-ups" with one another.

Bager and Niska, as with the Allience, probably would be best left alone for a bit and perhaps a related but new Villian (think Jubal Early). Using the character from Shindig is a great idea because it ties those previous "villian affiliation" together in a way - Allience money with family connections...sort of mob bosses without a mob.

I agree with Kaylee and Simon, and I agree with you idea about "fixing" River. Maybe Kaylee could get to the bottom of things - not figure out what was done to River, but work some kinda frontier logic relating to River's opinion of the Bible. (People are imperfect, but that doesn't make them bad or wrong or whatever). I also like the notion of River picking up some sort of ambient antagonism that's making her more unstable and that after Jayne ends up in the air lock the crew comes closer together and River calms down .

I wouldnt put Book as a general or anything but at least a Lieutennant just like Mal. Only thing is, where Mal lost his Faith, Book thinks he found his, but both of them have a lot to learn about what faith really is. Book is good at "philosophizin'", but is he really, ultimately religious? Is Mal?

Using another Companion and her escort perhaps to shed light on Companion "society" is a neat idea too.

Keep the ideas coming!

KAYLEEHOLIC

Saturday, January 11, 2003 12:54 AM

Didn't Early die ?

One concept: at the end of OIS, we saw him drifting in space.

How about this: we have him recovered by a ship carrying none other than Atheron Wing ( the guy from Shindig ). Well, Atherton's money loaded so he's probably charted a ship of similar size to Serenity ( another Firefly class ? ).

So, this other ship, the Tenacity ( for lack of a better name ) picks Early up and Early gives over information on Serenity.

Atherton, with glee, learning he can put Mal in a lot of trouble if he turns over Mal and due to the fact Mal was harboring wanted fugitives.

So, Early and Atherton, on the Tenacity, set off in pursuit of Serenity.

Well, that would be the 'Teaser' of the first of our episodes. Any ideas on how the plot would/should continue ?

GUAILO

Monday, January 13, 2003 4:48 PM

I wasn't exactly meaning that Early be brought back but rather a character like Early.

In spite of that, I could envision an episode where Early does show up again, say in some space port or another, and hassles the crew. He confronts Mal in an alley somewhere with the following exchange:

JUBAL: So...we meet again, Malcolm Reynolds. Funny thing, fate. Particularly when fate has so little to do with us meeting like this.

MAL: (glanincg at JUBAL's gun and then smiling back up at him) Figueres. Mind if I ask you a question 'fore you go and perforate me?

JUBAL: As long as it won't take to long. I have a shedual to keep. I'm a busy man.

MAL: (wry, quick smile) Weren't you floating off into the deep last we spoke?

JUBAL: I was.

MAL: Thought so. How'd that turn out.

JUBAL: I'm cleverer than you might think.

MAL: I see. So how does that explain your getting smacked on the head like that?

JUBAL looks confused, and turns just as JAYNE hits him hard with a ceramic sculpture from some local shop.

JAYNE: (looking down at JUBAL) Didn't we kill him alreddy?

MAL: Already, yes, but pparently not enough. Let's go.

Do something like that and never explain how Jubal got out of it.

KAYLEEHOLIC

Monday, January 13, 2003 5:36 PM

I like the idea about Early in the last post. I think it's a cool scene and Jayne and Mal both get great lines.

As I posted in a thread about Early's sanity, I think he may have been subjected to the same sort of thing that River was. Except he got through the experimentation.

In that mind, I've got an idea.

In 'Ariel', Simon got some information from the Alliance facility about what they did to River.

She wasn't the only person experimented upon and this is where the plot grows:

Let's call the episode 'Objects in Motion'.

Serenity's on a planet. Simon is talking to an information dealer in a seedy bar ( strip joint anyone ? ) to buy information on the experiments that were conducted on River. Mal and Jayne are, of course, keeping an eye on the 'lil Doctor but Mal leaves the bar at the behest of Kaylee ... and is confronted by Early, who points his phase pistol at Mal, but the sequence in the above post occurs ...

And then we kick into the credit sequence.

Afterwards, Simon is back on Serenity and the ship is ploughing through space. The data that Simon bought off the information dealer was decrypted and Wash/Kaylee have been decrypting it. When it is decrypted, it reveals that Early was also experimented upon.

During Act 1, we see Early visiting the information dealer and shooting him dead, then stealing all the information he has.

Later, we'd see Early reporting to a figure who was in veiled in shadows ( so it could be either Atherton or Niska or an Alliance goon ) and then heads after Serenity ...

Meanwhile, Serenity gets involved with something in space. A stricken freighter that has been put there as a booby trap for salvagers ? And River figures this out when she stumbles into the cockpit with Wash.

And, perhaps, Simon and Kaylee are stuck in an escape pod from the freighter and forced to deal with their feelings, eventually leaning in and kissing and we cut to Mal opening the escape pod on his engineer and doctor. And Jayne says a good line on Kaylee being 'his woman'.

And then Early shows up, somehow he's got onto the ship through the airlock like last time. And he pulls his gun on Mal, Simon, Jayne and Kaylee.

But ...

How should it continue ?

I quite like this 'pilot' idea for the FFVS.

Any comments ?

GUAILO

Monday, January 13, 2003 7:03 PM

Nice story ideas.

In terms of plot, the reason Early didn't discover Jayne sneaking up should be revealed. I was thinking ear trouble frome the slow depressurization of his suit, but we still don't really reveal how Early ultimately got out of that mess. He clips his O2 line and depressurizes himself but the thrust slowly rolls him back to his ship just as he's about to suffocate and freeze.

How about this for a spin on the story you've begun: Jubal is after River for the money, but he's crafty. He's got a secondary agenda or connection...to Niska....

Jubal, after the confrontation with Mal in the alley, reports back to his boss. When we come back from commercial (hehe) there's a scene or so of the Serenity crew leaving the planet with Simon going on about a lead on the Allience process his sister went through. He has found someone who says he knows someone else that can get them info, but they're not easy to get to, blah, blah, blah...

Jubal is seen entering a room where Niska sits (dingy frontier world office) informing him that the Serenity crew gave him the slip. He leaves out the details, but that okay because that's why Niska has been told to rendezvous here: to make the payment for obtaining River expedient. Niska is resistant and authoritative, and seems to have a hold over Jubal. Jubal is resentful, but stoic. Niska wants River delivered so that she can be turned over to his clients ASAP and Jubal promises coldly that everything is in order.

The idea with this scene is to establish a reluctant relationship between Niska and Jubal. I figure that Jubal isn't the one that had been tested on, but that it's his child. Niska has promised to rectify that for services rendered, and this has been dragging out for a while ("One more job" ad infinitum). Jubal's actual intent is to capture River and get paid, but then double cross Niska and use River's capabilities to rescue his own child from Allience hands. This is why he doesn't intend to kill the crew (which presumable he could have easily done in Objects in Space); he's not a bad guy but he is capable and desperate.

If we are gonna bring him back, some sort of desperate conviction like that is the only thing I can think of that would really keep someone going to that degree of conviction. Plus, it makes Jubal a somewhat sympathitic character, but also one who will pursue River and Serenity forever.

LOSTANGEL

Monday, January 13, 2003 8:55 PM

I like the thought of Early back on their tracks. It doesn't have to be that Early's kid is held for ransom. It could be that Early is doing what Early is supposed to do. He could have that single-minded determination that can get really creapy (like the robot in Terminator 2, how he kept after the kid, no matter what Arnold did to him). As a matter of fact, the more single-minded and obsessive, the less human he can become in his search for River.

I like the idea that he is what River should have been made into. Besides, we have enough sympathy with the crew. No need to go wasting emotions, we won't have anyone to boo at.

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Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

LOSTANGEL

Monday, January 13, 2003 9:07 PM

We could do this scene where Early gets a couple of goons and kidnaps Inara, Kaylee, and Zoe (she got knocked out first, cause otherwise she would have kicked Early's as$ so hard he would have gotten his own orbit around Serenity). He then issues a demand, the women for River.

Then the menfolk get all macho and get a posse together. Wash becomes concerned about Zoe and insists on coming in, and Simon, trying to hide his concern for Kaylee (and not doing too well at it) has to be restrained from rushing in without them. Book stays on the ship and looks after River, foiling a small party of goons that try to sneak in and kidnap her. This could be a great plot for another episode where Book deals with the fact that he killed people.

After Mal teaches Simon about which end of a gun to point at the bad guys, they all rush in, have a glorious brawl, and the final sequence is the men carry the women aboard Serenity. Mal has a gracefully unconsious Inara in his arms, Simon is carring an awestruck Kaylee who is going on about a gash on his forehead, and Zoe is carrying a delerious Wash.

By the way, is there any plan to have this set as an actual story (ie: book) or is this just a discussion. This would make a great fanfic. (everyone concerned would get equal credit)

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Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

SAINTOFCHEESE

Monday, January 13, 2003 9:09 PM

welp..i want some wash and zoe in this virtual season!

~*Saint of Cheese*~

GUAILO

Monday, January 13, 2003 9:27 PM

I was thinking of a booby trap being Jubal's ace up his sleeve. It blows a hole in Serenity and that's when Kaylee and Simon have to bail. That's where Wash's "B" story would come in - has to be the hero pilot/engieneer without Kaylee around. He could be having to do all sorts of crazy things with the ship with a big ol' hole in her that other pilots would be incapable of.

But it sounds like I'm the only one who wants Jubal to turn into a gray character; someone who is doing bad things in spite of his good intentions. I just want to keep the "boos" focused on the Allience or Niska or Badger. Jubal is, with my plan, essentially comeing back for more because he's driven to good ends, whereas the other's are just nasty (lol).

But, heck...if you want Wash and Zoe in here, SaintofCheese, put them in! I could see a whole episode focused on them so they have more to do though.

LOSTANGEL

Monday, January 13, 2003 10:27 PM

Badger could be the gray character here too. He strikes me as being too self-centered to give loyalty to one group or another, even if it's Niska or the Alliance.

The crew needs a place to get jobs from once in a while, and Badger could do that, and it would make it interesting to know that they know they can't trust him, but need the jobs he throws their way.

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Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

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