Mail Delays Fuel Concern Trump Is Undercutting Postal System Ahead of Voting
POSTED BY: reaverfan
UPDATED: Thursday, November 12, 2020 05:12
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The president’s long campaign against the Postal Service is intersecting with his assault on mail-in voting amid concerns that he has politicized oversight of the agency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/us/politics/trump-usps-mail-delays.
html?fbclid=IwAR0wK9jsVriLsDD16fuWVEYv3LLxJJVdzElencdEOArouvpbx9WJGtq7TIw
It is much much more than merely slower mail to disrupt the vote.
Here are a few reasons Trump fired the competent Postmaster General and appointed the acting PG who is a major campaign donor with zero experience (acting because, like many, many other 'acting' cabinet and department head positions, Trump knows Congress will never approve their appointment)...
They want to eliminate or disrupt absentee ballots because with more people able to easily vote it means Trump will lose by a landslide.
They want to reduce efficiency so they can privatize it because of a lack of efficiency, through a no-bid contract to the highest reelection campaign donor 'bidder'/Mar-A-Lago member - which translates to kickbacks (campaign donations) which equals legal bribes!
Trump wants to fuck with Jeff Bezos who owns Amazon, the biggest client of USPS, but more important, Bezos owns the 'fake news' Washington Post who reports the truth about the presidential criminal enterprise for pulling stunts exactly like this one.
Amazon is the biggest client of the USPS. So big that the Post Office delivers their packages on Sunday - the only mail delivered on Sunday. Amazon customers who are used to 2 day delivery may now have to wait up to a week or more and may decide to shop elsewhere. Maybe some Amazon packages 'get lost in the system' and never delivered...
Because Trump hates Bezos so much, he is willing to disrupt one of the oldest (1792/George Washington) and most efficient departments of the USA Government just to fuck with Jeff Bezos. Let that sink in...
And maybe the most important reason of all - 'TO OWN THE LIBS' ! ! ! ! !*
The new Postmaster General is Louis DeJoy. Since January 2020, DeJoy has donated $360,000 to President Trump’s re-election campaign and roughly $70,000 to the Republican National Committee. He was appointed in May 2020...
(if you do the math, he donated over $61,000 a month/over $2,000 per day to buy this job that pays $291,650 per year...)
Now you know the price for Trump to sell the job to someone with absolutely no experience. Let that sink in, and realize that he sold every other high level position under similar circumstances - they bribed trump* to get a job with no experience...
They spend much more to get the job than the job pays. Think about that...
This new crony sees no problem that all the mail does not get delivered every day (like now and forever up until now) and it is OK that a backlog is compounded every day, week, month, year...
Soon a daily priority ranking system will have to be assigned to determine the importance of each envelope or package and how timely it should be delivered, if delivered at all.
The acting Postmaster General and Trump feel it is wasteful to pay overtime, or hire new employees, or budget for infrastructure improvements to ensure every day that:
"Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds"
The new slogan should be. "Maybe your letter or package will get there, maybe not"
At this point in the Trump administration he knows he can get away with anything he wants because he knows he has Barr & the DOJ & the Judges and Mitch & the Senate in his pocket and they will never go after him.
Welcome to the new Trump dystopia...
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Quote:There is an excellent reason for purchasing a job that only pays $291,650 per year:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Here are a few reasons Trump fired the competent Postmaster General and appointed the acting PG who is a major campaign donor with zero experience (acting because, like many, many other 'acting' cabinet and department head positions, Trump knows Congress will never approve their appointment)...
They want to reduce efficiency so they can privatize it because of a lack of efficiency, through a no-bid contract to the highest reelection campaign donor 'bidder'/Mar-A-Lago member - which translates to kickbacks (campaign donations) which equals legal bribes!
The new Postmaster General is Louis DeJoy. Since January 2020, DeJoy has donated $360,000 to President Trump’s re-election campaign and roughly $70,000 to the Republican National Committee. He was appointed in May 2020...
(if you do the math, he donated over $61,000 a month/over $2,000 per day to buy this job that pays $291,650 per year...)
Now you know the price for Trump to sell the job to someone with absolutely no experience. Let that sink in, and realize that he sold every other high level position under similar circumstances - they bribed trump* to get a job with no experience...
They spend much more to get the job than the job pays. Think about that...
Trump's Postmaster General Louis DeJoy and his wife have between $30.1 million to $75.3 million in assets in U.S. Postal Service competitors or contractors. The man Trump put in charge of the Postal Service has the most to gain from its destruction. How will he gain? Without the USPS, 70 million more Americans would have to pay hefty surcharges for deliveries. The agency has been rapidly losing money since a 2006 law, passed with the support of the George W. Bush administration, required USPS to pre-fund employee retiree health benefits for 75 years in the future. That means the Postal Service must pay for the future health care of employees who have not even been born yet. The burden accounted for an estimated 80% to 90% of the agency’s losses before the pandemic.
www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-2020-usps-appointment-could-corr
upt-key-institution-ahead-ncna1234125
https://fortune.com/2020/07/24/usps-mail-delivery-postmaster-general-l
ouis-dejoy-us-postal-service/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol @ Second discussing a conspiracy theory with himself.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:How is citing facts a conspiracy theory?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol @ Second discussing a conspiracy theory with himself.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Never mind. You can't tell the difference, anyway.
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Because everything that is anti-Democrat is considered "conspiracy" and everything that is anti-Republican is considered "fact" when listening to any Legacy Media outlets.
It wasn't always that way. But here we are.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Wow. You really aren't able to tell fact from fiction, are you?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Because everything that is anti-Democrat is considered "conspiracy" and everything that is anti-Republican is considered "fact" when listening to any Legacy Media outlets.
It wasn't always that way. But here we are.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I mean, you really, really can't.
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I just did.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Geez, your Spin Doctors are working overtime - and yet they still got it all wrong, with vastly outdated info.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
The president’s long campaign against the Postal Service is intersecting with his assault on mail-in voting amid concerns that he has politicized oversight of the agency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/us/pol
itics/trump-usps-mail-delays.html?fbclid=IwAR0wK9jsVriLsDD16fuWV
EYv3LLxJJVdzElencdEOArouvpbx9WJGtq7TIw
It is much much more than merely slower mail to disrupt the vote.
They want to eliminate or disrupt absentee ballots because with more people able to easily vote it means Trump will lose by a landslide.
They want to reduce efficiency so they can privatize it because of a lack of efficiency, through a no-bid contract to the highest reelection campaign donor 'bidder'/Mar-A-Lago member - which translates to kickbacks (campaign donations) which equals legal bribes!
Trump wants to fuck with Jeff Bezos who owns Amazon, the biggest client of USPS, but more important, Bezos owns the 'fake news' Washington Post who reports the truth about the presidential criminal enterprise for pulling stunts exactly like this one.
Amazon is the biggest client of the USPS. So big that the Post Office delivers their packages on Sunday - the only mail delivered on Sunday. Amazon customers who are used to 2 day delivery may now have to wait up to a week or more and may decide to shop elsewhere. Maybe some Amazon packages 'get lost in the system' and never delivered...
Because Trump hates Bezos so much, he is willing to disrupt one of the oldest (1792/George Washington) and most efficient departments of the USA Government just to fuck with Jeff Bezos. Let that sink in...
This new crony sees no problem that all the mail does not get delivered every day (like now and forever up until now) and it is OK that a backlog is compounded every day, week, month, year...
The acting Postmaster General and Trump feel it is wasteful to pay overtime, or hire new employees, or budget for infrastructure improvements to ensure every day that:
"Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds"
The new slogan should be. "Maybe your letter or package will get there, maybe not"
Welcome to the new Trump dystopia...
USPS hasn't delivered "all the mail every day" since at least the mid 1980s, when the advent of Automation consolidated Mail Processing into centrally located Processing and Distributions Centers.
Even in the 1990s and 2000s, 2nd Class (or lesser) mail was not delivered on Mondays, sometimes not on Tuesdays, and was not even accepted from mailers in the month of December (which is why you got flooded with flyers at the end of November).
In 2010 Congress decided and approved the new USPS practice of ending the traditional Practice and Pledge of Next Day Delivery. Which had meant that if you mailed your next door neighbor a letter, they would get it the next delivery day.
Was Trump residing in the White House in 2010? Was Trump in control of Congress in 2010?
USPS closed 141 facilities (of about 400) in 2012 and 2013. In 2014 and 2015 they closed even more.
Was Trump residing in the White House in 2012-2015?
The same thing happened all over the U.S., but I'm more familiar with WI, so I'll explain it a little more.
Only Green Bay and Milwaukee Centers remained open. Closed were Rhinelander, Wausau (Rothschild/Central), Oshkosh, Madison, Eau Claire, La Crosse, Rockford (IL, but still in the Lakeland Perfomance Cluster), Iron Mountain/Kingsford (MI), Poynette.
Mail from the shore of Lake Superior at Bayfield had traveled for 4 hours to Wausau to be sorted and processed every night, and then after sorting was trucked for 4 hours back to Bayfield for delivery the next day.
Now that mail gets trucked to Green Bay, 6 hours each way. There is no attempt to sort it overnight, it is delayed at least
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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Geez, your Spin Doctors are working overtime - and yet they still got it all wrong, with vastly outdated info.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
The president’s long campaign against the Postal Service is intersecting with his assault on mail-in voting amid concerns that he has politicized oversight of the agency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/us/politics/trump-usps-mail-delays.
html?fbclid=IwAR0wK9jsVriLsDD16fuWVEYv3LLxJJVdzElencdEOArouvpbx9WJGtq7TIw
It is much much more than merely slower mail to disrupt the vote.
Here are a few reasons Trump fired the competent Postmaster General and appointed the acting PG who is a major campaign donor with zero experience (acting because, like many, many other 'acting' cabinet and department head positions, Trump knows Congress will never approve their appointment)...
They want to eliminate or disrupt absentee ballots because with more people able to easily vote it means Trump will lose by a landslide.
They want to reduce efficiency so they can privatize it because of a lack of efficiency, through a no-bid contract to the highest reelection campaign donor 'bidder'/Mar-A-Lago member - which translates to kickbacks (campaign donations) which equals legal bribes!
Trump wants to fuck with Jeff Bezos who owns Amazon, the biggest client of USPS, but more important, Bezos owns the 'fake news' Washington Post who reports the truth about the presidential criminal enterprise for pulling stunts exactly like this one.
Amazon is the biggest client of the USPS. So big that the Post Office delivers their packages on Sunday - the only mail delivered on Sunday. Amazon customers who are used to 2 day delivery may now have to wait up to a week or more and may decide to shop elsewhere. Maybe some Amazon packages 'get lost in the system' and never delivered...
Because Trump hates Bezos so much, he is willing to disrupt one of the oldest (1792/George Washington) and most efficient departments of the USA Government just to fuck with Jeff Bezos. Let that sink in...
And maybe the most important reason of all - 'TO OWN THE LIBS' ! ! ! ! !*
The new Postmaster General is Louis DeJoy. Since January 2020, DeJoy has donated $360,000 to President Trump’s re-election campaign and roughly $70,000 to the Republican National Committee. He was appointed in May 2020...
(if you do the math, he donated over $61,000 a month/over $2,000 per day to buy this job that pays $291,650 per year...)
Now you know the price for Trump to sell the job to someone with absolutely no experience. Let that sink in, and realize that he sold every other high level position under similar circumstances - they bribed trump* to get a job with no experience...
They spend much more to get the job than the job pays. Think about that...
This new crony sees no problem that all the mail does not get delivered every day (like now and forever up until now) and it is OK that a backlog is compounded every day, week, month, year...
Soon a daily priority ranking system will have to be assigned to determine the importance of each envelope or package and how timely it should be delivered, if delivered at all.
The acting Postmaster General and Trump feel it is wasteful to pay overtime, or hire new employees, or budget for infrastructure improvements to ensure every day that:
"Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds"
The new slogan should be. "Maybe your letter or package will get there, maybe not"
At this point in the Trump administration he knows he can get away with anything he wants because he knows he has Barr & the DOJ & the Judges and Mitch & the Senate in his pocket and they will never go after him.
Welcome to the new Trump dystopia...
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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Geez, your Spin Doctors are working overtime - and yet they still got it all wrong, with vastly outdated info.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
The president’s long campaign against the Postal Service is intersecting with his assault on mail-in voting amid concerns that he has politicized oversight of the agency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/us/politics/trump-usps-mail-delays.
html?fbclid=IwAR0wK9jsVriLsDD16fuWVEYv3LLxJJVdzElencdEOArouvpbx9WJGtq7TIw
It is much much more than merely slower mail to disrupt the vote.
Here are a few reasons Trump fired the competent Postmaster General and appointed the acting PG who is a major campaign donor with zero experience (acting because, like many, many other 'acting' cabinet and department head positions, Trump knows Congress will never approve their appointment)...
They want to eliminate or disrupt absentee ballots because with more people able to easily vote it means Trump will lose by a landslide.
They want to reduce efficiency so they can privatize it because of a lack of efficiency, through a no-bid contract to the highest reelection campaign donor 'bidder'/Mar-A-Lago member - which translates to kickbacks (campaign donations) which equals legal bribes!
Trump wants to fuck with Jeff Bezos who owns Amazon, the biggest client of USPS, but more important, Bezos owns the 'fake news' Washington Post who reports the truth about the presidential criminal enterprise for pulling stunts exactly like this one.
Amazon is the biggest client of the USPS. So big that the Post Office delivers their packages on Sunday - the only mail delivered on Sunday. Amazon customers who are used to 2 day delivery may now have to wait up to a week or more and may decide to shop elsewhere. Maybe some Amazon packages 'get lost in the system' and never delivered...
Because Trump hates Bezos so much, he is willing to disrupt one of the oldest (1792/George Washington) and most efficient departments of the USA Government just to fuck with Jeff Bezos. Let that sink in...
And maybe the most important reason of all - 'TO OWN THE LIBS' ! ! ! ! !*
The new Postmaster General is Louis DeJoy. Since January 2020, DeJoy has donated $360,000 to President Trump’s re-election campaign and roughly $70,000 to the Republican National Committee. He was appointed in May 2020...
(if you do the math, he donated over $61,000 a month/over $2,000 per day to buy this job that pays $291,650 per year...)
Now you know the price for Trump to sell the job to someone with absolutely no experience. Let that sink in, and realize that he sold every other high level position under similar circumstances - they bribed trump* to get a job with no experience...
They spend much more to get the job than the job pays. Think about that...
This new crony sees no problem that all the mail does not get delivered every day (like now and forever up until now) and it is OK that a backlog is compounded every day, week, month, year...
Soon a daily priority ranking system will have to be assigned to determine the importance of each envelope or package and how timely it should be delivered, if delivered at all.
The acting Postmaster General and Trump feel it is wasteful to pay overtime, or hire new employees, or budget for infrastructure improvements to ensure every day that:
"Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds"
The new slogan should be. "Maybe your letter or package will get there, maybe not"
At this point in the Trump administration he knows he can get away with anything he wants because he knows he has Barr & the DOJ & the Judges and Mitch & the Senate in his pocket and they will never go after him.
Welcome to the new Trump dystopia...
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^ Least self-aware reply in 2020 right here.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Postal Service says it has 'ample capacity' to handle election after Trump casts doubt
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/postal-service-says-it-has-ample-cap
acity-to-handle-election-after-trump-casts-doubt/ar-BB17wKmM?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=bingoverlay
I've posted this before but apparently; I need to do so again. Sorry if it has already been posted in this thread. I've said on many occasions, I have no intention of reading massive amounts of postings while trying to sort out fact from fiction.
So, here's a fact. The postal service says to Trump and America, don't worry we've got it.
T ![]()
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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lol
You're a stooge for globalist interests.
Too bad for you that they'll throw you away like a used Kleenex after you've served your purpose.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
You're a stooge for globalist interests.
Too bad for you that they'll throw you away like a used Kleenex after you've served your purpose.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
How would you know what global interests are? To you all sources of information are fake, leaving only conspiracies for you to draw from. That puts you into the nut category.
Someone who is surrounded by a simulated, fake, reality. It is literally impossible to reject all the worlds’ mainstream sources for information, and be anything but living in a fantasy world.
You’re an idiot Jack. Really, you’re an idiot. You have cut yourself off from the collective intellect of the world. You can't tell the difference between real and unreal. Perhaps because you can't accept what is real, over what you want to be real?
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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lol
We'll see who's the idiot on November 4th, won't we?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
We'll see who's the idiot on November 4th, won't we?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
No Jack now. We see who the idiot is now. It is you. That's why you didn't address any of my last posts criticism, you can't. You've said it here a thousand times. Mainstream media is fake, and to date, you've shown you have no other reliable accountable sources.
You're like Trump when it comes to the coronavirus. He hopes it will go away when science says it won't. Just as you believe Trump will win in November. That too is not based on science.
Your reality is not rooted in reality. It's rooted in want, as I've said.
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:What is wrong, did somebody hurt your pussy?
Originally posted:Quote:You aren't even aware of how absurd you are.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Geez, your Spin Doctors are working overtime - and yet they still got it all wrong, with vastly outdated info.
Originally posted:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/us/politics/trump-usps-mail-delays.
html?fbclid=IwAR0wK9jsVriLsDD16fuWVEYv3LLxJJVdzElencdEOArouvpbx9WJGtq7TIw
Because Trump hates Bezos so much, he is willing to disrupt one of the oldest (1792/George Washington) and most efficient departments of the USA Government just to fuck with Jeff Bezos. Let that sink in...
This new crony sees no problem that all the mail does not get delivered every day (like now and forever up until now) and it is OK that a backlog is compounded every day, week, month, year...
"Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds"
The new slogan should be. "Maybe your letter or package will get there, maybe not"
USPS hasn't delivered "all the mail every day" since at least the mid 1980s, when the advent of Automation consolidated Mail Processing into centrally located Processing and Distributions Centers.
Even in the 1990s and 2000s, 2nd Class (or lesser) mail was not delivered on Mondays, sometimes not on Tuesdays, and was not even accepted from mailers in the month of December (which is why you got flooded with flyers at the end of November).
In 2010 Congress decided and approved the new USPS practice of ending the traditional Practice and Pledge of Next Day Delivery. Which had meant that if you mailed your next door neighbor a letter, they would get it the next delivery day.
Was Trump residing in the White House in 2010? Was Trump in control of Congress in 2010?
USPS closed 141 facilities (of about 400) in 2012 and 2013. In 2014 and 2015 they closed even more.
Was Trump residing in the White House in 2012-2015?
The same thing happened all over the U.S., but I'm more familiar with WI, so I'll explain it a little more.
Only Green Bay and Milwaukee Centers remained open. Closed were Rhinelander, Wausau (Rothschild/Central), Oshkosh, Madison, Eau Claire, La Crosse, Rockford (IL, but still in the Lakeland Perfomance Cluster), Iron Mountain/Kingsford (MI), Poynette.
Mail from the shore of Lake Superior at Bayfield had traveled for 4 hours to Wausau to be sorted and processed every night, and then after sorting was trucked for 4 hours back to Bayfield for delivery the next day.
Now that mail gets trucked to Green Bay, 6 hours each way. There is no attempt to sort it overnight, it is delayed at least a day, and often more than a day.
Are simple facts too complicated for a Tard like you to comprehend?
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Quote:What is wrong, did somebody hurt your pussy?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Are simple facts too complicated for a Tard like you to comprehend?
Looks like I hurt your feelings.
Some people are easily upset when they're wrong.
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Trump continues attacks on mail-in voting, plans to vote by mail himself
https://local12.com/news/nation-world/president-trump-continues-attack
s-on-mail-in-voting-plans-to-vote-by-mail-himself
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DeJoy paid $2 mil for the job. He's intentionally ruining the USPS. His wife was made ambassador to Canada.
The pay-to-play Trump swamp is up for sale.
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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
No Jack now.
No. We'll see on November 4th.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
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House Panel Calls New Postmaster General To Explain Mail Delays
Changes imposed by Louis DeJoy are causing mail delays ahead of an expected major expansion of mail-in ballots in the upcoming election.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/house-panel-calls-postmaster-general-lo
uis-dejoy-to-explain-mail-delays_n_5f295f6dc5b656e9b0a0770f
He is so transparently idiotic. This is purely intentional.
I hate being so goddamn right about everything, every single time.
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Huge surprise that only Democrats are in favor of mail in ballots.
Lying, cheating and stealing. Whatever it takes to beat Trump.
Sure. Let's completely de-legitimatize the vote.
Just remember what you're attempting to do now if you're successful in cheating when it gets used against you in the future.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Silly wabbit. Only Democwaps are allowed to collude with the Post Office to defraud the Elections, like in 2016:
https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/politics/osc-usps-hillary-clinton-hatch
-act/index.html
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USPS workers are reporting that mail deliveries are intentionally 'slowed down'
https://megaphone.upworthy.com/p/the-reason-usps-is-so-backed-up
However, the United States Postal Service's dilemma, while similar to the aforementioned examples, has a host of other political implications associated with its reported intentional derailment.
USPS' Board of Governors is mostly comprised of individuals hand-picked by President Trump.
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Quote:It's kinda pathetic that I can read the stupidity you spew and know which neoNazi put those lies in your head.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Huge surprise that only Democrats are in favor of mail in ballots.
Lying, cheating and stealing. Whatever it takes to beat Trump.
Sure. Let's completely de-legitimatize the vote.
Just remember what you're attempting to do now if you're successful in cheating when it gets used against you in the future.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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None of the above would be the answer, since I've been against even absentee ballots before you even started hiding behind a black mask, idiot.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Voting by mail has worked just fine for a very long time. That is a fact, not an opinion.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
None of the above would be the answer, since I've been against even absentee ballots before you even started hiding behind a black mask, idiot.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Voting by mail leads to a million different scenarios where cheating can happen.
I think the biggest concern would be people going door to door to get other people to vote. They could go through all of them before dumping them in a mailbox and weed out any that voted the way they don't like.
Or forgery. That's easy to do.
I'm 1000% in favor of limiting voting only to people with a photo ID. Zero chance you're ever going to convince me that mail in ballots are a good idea.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:No. It does not. You're pulling shit straight outta your asshole, just like Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Voting by mail leads to a million different scenarios where cheating can happen.
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Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:No. It does not. You're pulling shit straight outta your asshole, just like Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Voting by mail leads to a million different scenarios where cheating can happen.
Yeah. It does.
And it's extremely telling that this is more of a partisan issue than the handling of the Coomph virus.
Democrats want to cheat to win. Because they can't win otherwise.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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At least six Sinclair national segments didn't mention Trump's sabotage of the Postal Service when covering his false attacks on mail-in voting
https://www.mediamatters.org/sinclair-broadcast-group/least-six-sincla
ir-national-segments-didnt-mention-trumps-sabotage-postal
President Donald Trump and his administration have weakened the United States Postal Service, enacting policies leading to slower mail delivery ahead of a presidential election in which mail-in voting will be heavily used. But Sinclair’s national reporters repeatedly failed to mention the administration’s efforts in at least six segments covering -- and in two cases advancing -- the president’s false attacks on the integrity and efficacy of voting by mail.
On August 5, one of Sinclair’s reporters finally reported on Trump’s efforts to undermine the Postal Service -- six weeks after the first Sinclair report covering his attacks on mail-in voting.
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Quote:You're still spouting nonsense. Nothing you said is true at all. It's sad you aren't smart enough to see that.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:No. It does not. You're pulling shit straight outta your asshole, just like Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Voting by mail leads to a million different scenarios where cheating can happen.
Yeah. It does.
And it's extremely telling that this is more of a partisan issue than the handling of the Coomph virus.
Democrats want to cheat to win. Because they can't win otherwise.
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'Friday Night Massacre' at US Postal Service as Postmaster General—a Major Trump Donor—Ousts Top Officials
"America is in a dead sprint to authoritarianism. The man is pulling out all the stops to prevent the citizens of this country from holding a legitimate election in which he might face removal from office."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/08/07/friday-night-massacre-us-
postal-service-postmaster-general-major-trump-donor-ousts
The shake-up came as congressional Democrats called for an investigation of DeJoy and the cost-cutting measures that have slowed mail delivery and ensnared ballots in recent primary elections.
Twenty-three postal executives were reassigned or displaced, the new organizational chart shows. Analysts say the structure centralizes power around DeJoy, a former logistics executive and major ally of President Trump, and de-emphasizes decades of institutional postal knowledge. All told, 33 staffers included in the old postal hierarchy either kept their jobs or were reassigned in the restructuring, with five more staffers joining the leadership from other roles.
Already under fire for recent policy changes at the USPS that mail carriers from within and outside critics have denounced as a sabotage effort to undermine the Postal Service broadly as well as disrupt efforts to carry out mail-in voting for November's election amid the Covid-19 pandemic, the moves unveiled late Friday were viewed as an overt assault on democracy and a calculated opportunity to boost Republicans' long-held dream of undercutting or privatizing the government-run mail service while also boosting their election prospects in the process.
"Another Friday night massacre by this administration—and this time dealing another devastating blow to our postal service," said Rep. Mary Gay Scanlon (D-Pa.) "The American people deserve answers and we're going to keep fighting for them."
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We're seeing democracy being dismantled in real time.
Trump is also putting his friends in Pentagon and other high ranking military positions. He may well be planning a purge of the military as well, especially since they bucked his authority when he tried to get them to bayonet protesters.
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Quote:6ix, I;m assuming you understand that all of this hoopla is from the largest Union in the world, the APWU, complaining that they are not getting the overtime they demand.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Yeah. It does.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:No. It does not. You're pulling shit straight outta your asshole, just like Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Voting by mail leads to a million different scenarios where cheating can happen.
And it's extremely telling that this is more of a partisan issue than the handling of the Coomph virus.
Democrats want to cheat to win. Because they can't win otherwise.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Funny how Obamination screwed over the largest Union in the world, plus the 2nd and 3rd (NALC, MHU) by suspending and ending the Postal Service Mandate of Next Day Delivery. Since that transformation, if mail is not fully sorted for 5 or 6 days of the week, it can be sorted on the 6th or 7th day, and no need for overtime.
Unions getting grumpy.
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That probably has something to do with it, but I think it's very small in the scheme of things.
There are a lot of things that can be done to keep union workers at the post office employed that don't require destroying the elections in America. Especially when election seasons only account for a small portion of time in the scheme of things, and they mail out a ton more targeted political mail than they ever would ballots.
Putting an end to the do-not-mail list would be one of them, especially considering that in 2020 at least 80% of the mail out there is junk mail.
I'm actually surprised that it's still a thing. Before I made this post I wanted to double check, because I thought it had been disbanded. I know I used to be on it at one point, but I get junk mail all the time again now. Turns out it's only for 5 years if you sign up for it. (Supposedly there is a "permanent" option, but why would there be two options?)
Really, they should just get rid of that if they want to help the post office out. I don't have a problem with the do-not-call list because I feel that invading your personal time with unsolicited phone calls is a breach of your personal space and privacy, but who cares about junk mail. Just throw it in the recycle bin.
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Trump Just Admitted He's Sabotaging the USPS to Screw Up the Election
“They need that money in order to make the Post Office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots."
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m7jkxq/trump-just-admitted-hes-sabo
taging-the-usps-to-screw-up-the-election?utm_source=reddit.com
President Donald Trump said the quiet part out loud, admitting he’s intentionally withholding money from the U.S. Postal Service to undermine its ability to handle mail-in voting in the 2020 election.
“They need that money in order to make the Post Office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots,” Trump said on Fox Business Thursday morning of the states that are implementing universal mail-in voting ahead of the November election. “But if they don’t get those two items, that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting, because they’re not equipped to have it.”
The comments make clear why Trump and congressional Republicans have steadfastly refused to grant the Post Office money in the latest round of negotiations over coronavirus stimulus. Trump has long attacked mail voting as fraud-prone even though there’s little evidence that’s true — and he sees slowdowns at the Post Office as a way to screw up mail voting.
Tech
USPS Workers Don’t Know What to Make of So-Called ‘Friday Night Massacre’
AARON GORDON
08.10.20
Widespread delays in ballot delivery could disenfranchise millions of people, lead to widespread chaos, and potentially swing a close election. Polls show that Democrats are increasingly likely to use mail voting as a safe way to cast a ballot during the pandemic, while Trump’s attacks on mail voting have pushed Republicans away from a method they’ve often used in the past.
Since Trump-donor Louis DeJoy took over the running of the Post Office in June, the mail has been slowed down considerably in at least 19 states, an alarming sign heading into the election. DeJoy’s new operational changes have included overhauling the service’s senior leadership and directing carriers to leave on time — even if the mail hasn’t been loaded —immediately in the morning, resulting in them only delivering packages and letters sorted the prior night, according to Reuters.
READ MORE: Trump Suggests Delaying the 2020 Election Over Mail-In Voting
Trump’s comments to Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo echo statements he made at a Wednesday press conference at the White House.
“They don’t have the money to do the universal mail-in voting,” Trump said of the Post Office, which is requesting billions in emergency funding. “So, therefore, they can’t do it, I guess. Are they going to do it even if they don’t have the money?”
Trump also said using mail-in voting would cause “one of the greatest frauds in history.”
In a statement ripping into Trump’s Fox Business comments, Joe Biden campaign spokesperson Andrew Bates said: “The President of the United States is sabotaging a basic service that hundreds of millions of people rely upon, cutting a critical lifeline for rural economies and for delivery of medicines, because he wants to deprive Americans of their fundamental right to vote safely during the most catastrophic public health crisis in over 100 years,” Bates said.
Tech
The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election
AARON GORDON
08.13.20
The delays and the administration’s posture toward mail-in voting have drawn fierce criticism from Democratic leaders, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. The two sent a joint letter last month to DeJoy demanding a reversal of the recent changes at the USPS, saying the changes “threaten the timely delivery of mail—including medicines for seniors, paychecks for workers, and absentee ballots for voters—that is essential to millions of Americans.”
And this week, House and Senate Democrats sent separate letters to DeJoy laying the blame for the recent mail delays at his feet.
“The House is seriously concerned that you are implementi
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Quote:This has WHAT to do with Trump destroying the Post Office?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Nothing has to do with Trump destroying the Post Office, because what goes on in that little dystpoian fantasy in your smoothbrain isn't real life.
But I figured since we're talking about politicians and bureaucrats racking in the big bucks for work they didn't do, we might as well add Pelosi to the list.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I suppose you can just ignore facts you don't like, but smart people don't.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nothing has to do with Trump destroying the Post Office, because what goes on in that little dystpoian fantasy in your smoothbrain isn't real life.
But I figured since we're talking about politicians and bureaucrats racking in the big bucks for work they didn't do, we might as well add Pelosi to the list.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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USPS Warns At Least 2 States That Mail-In Ballots May Not Be Delivered On Time
https://news.yahoo.com/usps-mail-in-ballots-pennsylvania-washington-04
4951098.html
Wyman, Washington’s secretary of state, had earlier expressed her own worries about the effect postal delivery delays could have on the election.
?I’m very concerned that delays in postal delivery are going to have a negative effect on absentee ballots and vote-by-mail elections,” Wyman, a Republican, told NPR earlier this month.
She added that she was troubled by President Donald Trump’s repeated ? and baseless ? insistence that mail-in voting will lead to widespread fraud.
“I think it really shatters people’s confidence in the process,” Wyman said. “We need to make sure we’re inspiring confidence in the public that this is a fair election. And the way you do that is balancing access and security.”
Trump on Thursday admitted in an interview with Fox Business that he was pushing back against Democrats’ demands for additional USPS funding because of his opposition to “universal mail-in voting.”
“If we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money,” Trump said, referring to ongoing negotiations over a coronavirus relief package. “That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting. They just can’t have it.”
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Trump-Appointed Judge Demands Evidence of Mail-in Voting Fraud
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-13/trump-appointed-jud
ge-demands-evidence-of-mail-in-voting-fraud
A federal judge appointed by Donald Trump gave the president’s campaign one day to turn over evidence to support its claims of widespread mail-in voting fraud or admit that it doesn’t exist.
The Trump campaign and Republican National Committee sued Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar and local election boards on June 29 over their plan for mail-in balloting for the November 3 elections. Trump’s team claimed the plan “provides fraudsters an easy opportunity to engage in ballot harvesting, manipulate or destroy ballots, manufacture duplicitous votes, and sow chaos.”
U.S. District Judge J. Nicholas Ranjan in Pittsburgh on Thursday asked the campaign to put forward previous examples of such fraud. “Plaintiffs shall produce such evidence in their possession, and if they have none, state as much,” said Ranjan, who took his seat on the bench in August 2019. He gave the campaign until Friday.
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Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:I suppose you can just ignore facts you don't like, but smart people don't.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nothing has to do with Trump destroying the Post Office, because what goes on in that little dystpoian fantasy in your smoothbrain isn't real life.
But I figured since we're talking about politicians and bureaucrats racking in the big bucks for work they didn't do, we might as well add Pelosi to the list.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You keep saying that dude, but I guaranty you that I've got more brains in the shit that I just flushed down the toilet than you have ever worked with in your life.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Demonstrably false.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:That is demonstrably false. You're constantly wrong about everything, due to the tinfoil bullshit you think is news.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:I suppose you can just ignore facts you don't like, but smart people don't.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nothing has to do with Trump destroying the Post Office, because what goes on in that little dystpoian fantasy in your smoothbrain isn't real life.
But I figured since we're talking about politicians and bureaucrats racking in the big bucks for work they didn't do, we might as well add Pelosi to the list.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You keep saying that dude, but I guaranty you that I've got more brains in the shit that I just flushed down the toilet than you have ever worked with in your life.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Trump’s Postal Service Chairman Has Led Senate GOP’s $100 Million Super PAC
Trump just installed a former RNC chair to lead the board that oversees USPS -- now the agency faces allegations that it is being used to rig the 2020 election.
https://sirota.substack.com/p/trumps-postal-service-chairman-has
In 2018 federal disclosure filings during his confirmation, Duncan listed himself as the current chairman of the Senate Leadership Fund -- a $100 million Senate-focused Republican super PAC whose 2020 electoral goals could hinge on vote-by-mail systems during the coronavirus pandemic. Duncan was listed as a director of the Senate Leadership Fund in an annual report the super PAC filed in Virginia in August 2019. CNN reported in January 2020 that the Republican effort to retain the Senate includes “McConnell's super PAC, the Senate Leadership Fund, which is helmed by Mike Duncan, the former RNC chairman and a Kentuckian.”
“Outside of government service, he served as Chairman of the Republican National Committee from 2007 to 2009,” Duncan’s official USPS biography notes. “As RNC Chairman, he raised an unprecedented $428 million and grew the donor base to 1.8 million -- more donors than at any time in RNC history.”
Hmm... No conflict of interest here...
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Postal Service plans to remove 671 high-volume mail processing machines
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/postal-service-plans-to-remove-671-h
igh-volume-mail-processing-machines-90079301991
An internal US Postal Service document obtained by NBC News reveals plans to remove 671 high-volume mail processing machines from postal facilities across the country. The document, circulated in June, is broken out by region and city/state.
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How to protect your vote amid the Trump administration’s assault on the postal service
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/how-to-protect-your-vote-amid-the-tr
ump-administration-s-assault-on-the-postal-service-90115141581
There are things you can do to make sure that your ballot is counted — even as the Trump-appointed head of the postal service takes mail processing machines and street mailboxes out of commission, and the president tries to withhold funding to expand vote-by-mail. Here are some actions you can take right now, with fewer than 80 days to election day.
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Jason Johnson, professional wrong person.
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Direct action gets the goods.
Protesters Stage ‘Wake-Up Call’ in Front of Postmaster General’s House
Taylor Swift joined those ripping President Trump’s handling of USPS on Saturday, saying he’s looking to “blatantly cheat”
https://www.thewrap.com/protesters-stage-wake-up-call-postmaster-gener
als-house/
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Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Demonstrably false.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:That is demonstrably false. You're constantly wrong about everything, due to the tinfoil bullshit you think is news.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:I suppose you can just ignore facts you don't like, but smart people don't.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nothing has to do with Trump destroying the Post Office, because what goes on in that little dystpoian fantasy in your smoothbrain isn't real life.
But I figured since we're talking about politicians and bureaucrats racking in the big bucks for work they didn't do, we might as well add Pelosi to the list.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You keep saying that dude, but I guaranty you that I've got more brains in the shit that I just flushed down the toilet than you have ever worked with in your life.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Then what are you waiting for?
Everything you've posted today so far has proven my point.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:The only point you have is on top of your empty head.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Everything you've posted today so far has proven my point.
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Fox & Friends’ Will Cain attacks the United States Postal Service: “The postal service is not an efficient nor honestly a good service”
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-friends/fox-friends-will-cain-attacks
-united-states-postal-service-postal-service-not-efficient
He needs to stick to sports. He doesn't know jack about anything else.
The US Post Office is legendary for their efficiency. It is my preferred service, by far. It provides better service than UPS or FedEx.
Further, the post office is a necessary service. It is the ONLY service that guarantees mail delivery to everyone in the country. As to letter mail, it is one price to anywhere in the States.
The Republicans have been trying for years to destroy the post office, even though it is one of the few agencies mentioned in the constitution explicitly. Somebody tell the cabinet officers that most of their positions are not mentioned in the constitution, but the Postmaster General is.
The federal highways that crisscross the country are Post Roads. To the founding fathers the post office was exceedingly important. It still is.
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lol @ literally any opinion you have about anything.
Waste of carbon.
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Quote:Waste of carbon says poor white trash 6ix. You are such a fucked up in the head dude, 6ix: Reports from NBC News, CNN, and the Washington Post indicate that 671 mail sorting machines are being taken offline under a new policy. NBC reports that, according to internal Postal Service documents it obtained, the new postmaster general appointed by Trump in May, Louis DeJoy, is the one responsible for the decommissioning initiative. And postal workers say the process of taking machines out of service under this initiative began in June.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol @ literally any opinion you have about anything.
Waste of carbon.
www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/2020/8/16/21370963/usps-postal-
service-mail-sorting-machines-trump-meadows-2020-election-ballots
The White House is denying everything, constantly, even while the mail sorting machines are being sent to the scrapyard. I'm thinking the lying sack of shit in the White House needs his face punched and his balls kicked.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Had to bring out your other personality to defend your Che Guevara one here?
Doesn't that get tiring?
At least when two idiots are sharing the same body and brain the carbon footprint they inflict on the planet while contributing nothing in return is cut in half.
So at least there's that.
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Quote:White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows lied his head off in an interview on Sunday that the Post Office was not slowing down the mail and he dared the interviewer to prove he was a liar: “Get your producer to share where exactly those sorting machines were taken offline. Let them whisper in your ear, because what I’m telling you is you’re picking up on a narrative that’s not based on facts.” The producer got on the telephone and made some calls.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Had to bring out your other personality to defend your Che Guevara one here?
Doesn't that get tiring?
At least when two idiots are sharing the same body and brain the carbon footprint they inflict on the planet while contributing nothing in return is cut in half.
So at least there's that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Later in the episode, after being updated by a producer, Tapper fulfilled Meadows’s request: He cited Chris Bentley, president of the National Postal Mail Handlers Union Local 297, which covers Kansas and part of Missouri, who told CNN that postal management “has already taken out four machines in Kansas City, two machines in Springfield, Missouri, and one machine in Wichita, Kansas, that is earlier this year — under this new postmaster general.”
www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/2020/8/16/21370963/usps-postal-
service-mail-sorting-machines-trump-meadows-2020-election-ballots
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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LOL
Says dying media outlet Vox.
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Quote:Hey, Poor White Trash 6ix, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows lied about slowing down the mail and he was caught lying on camera:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL
Says dying media outlet Vox.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1294998926333026317
What should have happened is that the interviewer hit Meadows on the kneecaps with a baseball bat to discourage further lying, but because of Covid-19 that was impossible since Meadows wasn't actually there and all American interviewers are cowards who won't fight back. Trump has always, and very successfully, depended on Americans being cowards that are easily talked into surrendering to his bullshit rather than striking back at him. Unlike Americans, Australian interviewers know how to handle him. Trump gets his ass kicked by an Aussie visiting the White House:
https://www.axios.com/full-axios-hbo-interview-donald-trump-cd5a67e1-6
ba1-46c8-bb3d-8717ab9f3cc5.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol @ poor white trash.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you hate yourself a little bit less, buddy. 
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Quote:140 days ago Trump said Republicans would ‘never’ be elected again if it was easier to vote. That is why Trump is slowing down the mail in August.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol @ poor white trash.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you hate yourself a little bit less, buddy.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/trump-republican-party-voting-
reform-coronavirus
6ix, all the poor white trash I know have strong opinions against voting by mail for the same reason Trump does. They worry that too many Democrats will vote. These people with strong opinions also have hyper-inflated self-esteem issues, which doesn't work to their advantage when their imagined white superiority isn't being rewarded in life. Bitterness follows them to the grave. "Why oh why didn't the world treat me better?" should be engraved on their headstones. That's the idea jumping around the branches of their squirrelly brains during life. Why not in death?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:140 days ago Trump said Republicans would ‘never’ be elected again if it was easier to vote. That is why Trump is slowing down the mail in August.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol @ poor white trash.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you hate yourself a little bit less, buddy.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/trump-republican-party-voting-
reform-coronavirus
6ix, all the poor white trash I know have strong opinions against voting by mail for the same reason Trump does. They worry that too many Democrats will vote. These people with strong opinions also have hyper-inflated self-esteem issues, which doesn't work to their advantage when their imagined white superiority isn't being rewarded in life. Bitterness follows them to the grave. "Why oh why didn't the world treat me better?" should be engraved on their headstones. That's the idea jumping around the branches of their squirrelly brains during life. Why not in death?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
And Hitler loved dogs, so all dog lovers are Nazis.
We get it bruh.
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It would be so nice if 6ix had paid attention in school, instead of sneaking out to get shitfaced drunk.
Instead, he learned nothing and fried his wet brain. Can't do basic logic now. Sad.
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Shake him off.
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lol nah.
Can't wait to laugh my ass off at your meltdown on November 4th.
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Too bad your brain stopped working.
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Too bad Democrats are blowing their load this early again.
2 weeks from now nobody is going to remember your little story.
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Do try to have fun while selling out your "principals" when you cast your vote for the Biden/Harris ticket, Che.
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Golly, a pile of useless linkys there (above). But I did find the much ballyhooed USPS document:
https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf
Background: USPS automation machines sort 3 types of mail: Letter Mail, Flats (manilla envelopes, sealed magazines, other packages greater than 8.5" x 11" but not thicker than an inch), and packages.
Letter mail has slowed since 9-11, and so has Flats. While package mail has grown in volume, and is highly competitive, and sought after by competitors - and USPS has had a habit of processing them at a loss of revenue - for decades.
It mentions 4 types of machines. AFCSs, which are actually AFCS-ISS machines, operated by Mail Handlers and Operate at peak efficiency at about 30,000/hr. They can crank their figures up to 34K, but anything over 30k is purely errors. There have not been any base model AFCSs in USPS in more than 10 years.
AFCS-ISS machines process letter mail only. Flats are culled out in the 2nd culling stage. Packages cannot fit in the machine, and if they enter the machine, are culled at the first point (if the machine didn't jam from them). By 2010 there were about 2,000 of these machines. For instance, in WI there were 8 in Milwaukee, 6 in Madison, 2 each in Green Bay, Eau Claire, LaCrosse, Wausau, Oshkosh, and 1 in Kingsford. Obama reduced those 8 sites down to 2 for the whole state, and those 25 machines down to about 14 remaining, because he eliminated the Mandate of Next Day Delivery.
The other 3 types of machines mentioned are operated by Clerks, members of the APWU.
DBCSs process solely Letter Mail, at a speed up to 43,000 for the older machines, but about 35-38,000 for the "new & better" versions. The older units often don't run at capacity because the Unionized Postal Workers are too lazy to do the work to allow the machines to function properly.
By 2010, there were about 10,000 DBCSs in USPS - not including several thousand DIOSS, a higher-functioning upgrade to the base DBCS (unlikely that any DIOSSs are being thrown out, nor any DBCS-OSSs.)
Milwaukee had 28, GB had 10.
One of these stories mentions that the 671 machines are about 10% of the current stable - meaning Obama has already cut them down to around 6,700 machines before Trump ever populated the White House.
The next 2 machines are humungus, and not very populous due to the smaller footprint desired by USPS facilities. Sites in WI could barely fit one inside, and often not that.
AFSMs and FSS process Flats mail. They are much, much slower than the letter machines. The flats are "injected" into the carousel at a rate of about 4-7 per second. IIRC 120 per minute was the fastest rate we got out if them, and that was cooking (there are mechanical limitations).
That USPS spokesman said that they were reallocating due to demand, and for years now they have been pointing out that Letters and Flats have been in decline, and now they are switching operations over to focus on package mail.
When time, I need to check the annual mail volume from 2001, and 2010, and 2016, and now. They usually report that stuff every year, along with the total number of unique addresses in the U.S.
https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf
This story mentions that 5 out of 20 DBCSs were removed, again in line with current trends, and a minor fraction of the machines that Obamination get rid of. But the largest Union in the world, APWU, needs to whine about something because their overtime is gone, thanks to Obama eliminating the Mandate of Next Day Delivery about 8-10 years ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/usps-states-delayed-m
ail-in-ballots/2020/08/14/64bf3c3c-dcc7-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html
This story accidentally leaves in some factual statements - which deflate the Libtard narrative.
Quote:
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In June the independent website Factcheck.org made a dig at Joe Biden, publishing a post titled “Biden Floats Baseless Election Conspiracy.” Biden, you see, had suggested that Donald Trump “wants to cut off money for the post office so they cannot deliver mail-in ballots.” There was, said the post, no evidence that Trump’s “stance toward the U.S. postal system is related to the presidential election.”
A few days ago Factcheck.org conceded that Biden had, in fact, been right. The confirmation? Trump’s own statements.
www.factcheck.org/2020/08/trump-proves-biden-right-on-usps-funding-mai
l-in-ballots/
Why does the Post Office need a bailout? Because by law the price of a first class stamp is set too low, lower than any other country:
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/08/us-postal-rates-versus-
other-countries/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
In June the independent website Factcheck.org made a dig at Joe Biden, publishing a post titled “Biden Floats Baseless Election Conspiracy.” Biden, you see, had suggested that Donald Trump “wants to cut off money for the post office so they cannot deliver mail-in ballots.” There was, said the post, no evidence that Trump’s “stance toward the U.S. postal system is related to the presidential election.”
A few days ago Factcheck.org conceded that Biden had, in fact, been right. The confirmation? Trump’s own statements.
www.factcheck.org/2020/08/trump-proves-biden-right-on-usps-funding-mai
l-in-ballots/
Why does the Post Office need a bailout? Because by law the price of a first class stamp is set too low, lower than any other country:

Quote:Have you looked at the volume of mail processed every year? If the postage had been 1 or 2 cents higher, there would have been no deficit for any year in the past several decades.
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/08/us-postal-rates-versus-
other-countries/
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Golly, a pile of useless linkys there (above). But I did find the much ballyhooed USPS document:
https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf
Background: USPS automation machines sort 3 types of mail: Letter Mail, Flats (manilla envelopes, sealed magazines, other packages greater than 8.5" x 11" but not thicker than an inch), and packages.
Letter mail has slowed since 9-11, and so has Flats. While package mail has grown in volume, and is highly competitive, and sought after by competitors - and USPS has had a habit of processing them at a loss of revenue - for decades.
It mentions 4 types of machines. AFCSs, which are actually AFCS-ISS machines, operated by Mail Handlers and Operate at peak efficiency at about 30,000/hr. They can crank their figures up to 34K, but anything over 30k is purely errors. There have not been any base model AFCSs in USPS in more than 10 years.
AFCS-ISS machines process letter mail only. Flats are culled out in the 2nd culling stage. Packages cannot fit in the machine, and if they enter the machine, are culled at the first point (if the machine didn't jam from them). By 2010 there were about 2,000 of these machines. For instance, in WI there were 8 in Milwaukee, 6 in Madison, 2 each in Green Bay, Eau Claire, LaCrosse, Wausau, Oshkosh, and 1 in Kingsford. Obama reduced those 8 sites down to 2 for the whole state, and those 25 machines down to about 14 remaining, because he eliminated the Mandate of Next Day Delivery.
The other 3 types of machines mentioned are operated by Clerks, members of the APWU.
DBCSs process solely Letter Mail, at a speed up to 43,000 for the older machines, but about 35-38,000 for the "new & better" versions. The older units often don't run at capacity because the Unionized Postal Workers are too lazy to do the work to allow the machines to function properly.
By 2010, there were about 10,000 DBCSs in USPS - not including several thousand DIOSS, a higher-functioning upgrade to the base DBCS (unlikely that any DIOSSs are being thrown out, nor any DBCS-OSSs.)
Milwaukee had 28, GB had 10.
One of these stories mentions that the 671 machines are about 10% of the current stable - meaning Obama has already cut them down to around 6,700 machines before Trump ever populated the White House.
The next 2 machines are humungus, and not very populous due to the smaller footprint desired by USPS facilities. Sites in WI could barely fit one inside, and often not that.
AFSMs and FSS process Flats mail. They are much, much slower than the letter machines. The flats are "injected" into the carousel at a rate of about 4-7 per second. IIRC 120 per minute was the fastest rate we got out if them, and that was cooking (there are mechanical limitations).
That USPS spokesman said that they were reallocating due to demand, and for years now they have been pointing out that Letters and Flats have been in decline, and now they are switching operations over to focus on package mail.
When time, I need to check the annual mail volume from 2001, and 2010, and 2016, and now. They usually report that stuff every year, along with the total number of unique addresses in the U.S.
https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf
This story mentions that 5 out of 20 DBCSs were removed, again in line with current trends, and a minor fraction of the machines that Obamination get rid of. But the largest Union in the world, APWU, needs to whine about something because their overtime is gone, thanks to Obama eliminating the Mandate of Next Day Delivery about 8-10 years ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/usps-states-delayed-m
ail-in-ballots/2020/08/14/64bf3c3c-dcc7-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html
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We do know at this point that Biden’s earlier remarks that Trump “wants to cut off money for the post office so they cannot deliver mail-in ballots” have been confirmed — by the president himself.
In an Aug. 13 interview, Trump admitted that he opposes a coronavirus pandemic relief bill crafted by the House Democrats because it includes funding for the U.S. Postal Service and state election officials — funding that Trump said is needed to allow the Postal Service to handle an expected surge in mail-in voting.
The Trump interview is here
www.factcheck.org/2020/08/trump-proves-biden-right-on-usps-funding-mai
l-in-ballots/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Golly, a pile of useless linkys there (above). But I did find the much ballyhooed USPS document:
https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf
Background: USPS automation machines sort 3 types of mail: Letter Mail, Flats (manilla envelopes, sealed magazines, other packages greater than 8.5" x 11" but not thicker than an inch), and packages.
Letter mail has slowed since 9-11, and so has Flats. While package mail has grown in volume, and is highly competitive, and sought after by competitors - and USPS has had a habit of processing them at a loss of revenue - for decades.
It mentions 4 types of machines. AFCSs, which are actually AFCS-ISS machines, operated by Mail Handlers and Operate at peak efficiency at about 30,000/hr. They can crank their figures up to 34K, but anything over 30k is purely errors. There have not been any base model AFCSs in USPS in more than 10 years.
AFCS-ISS machines process letter mail only. Flats are culled out in the 2nd culling stage. Packages cannot fit in the machine, and if they enter the machine, are culled at the first point (if the machine didn't jam from them). By 2010 there were about 2,000 of these machines. For instance, in WI there were 8 in Milwaukee, 6 in Madison, 2 each in Green Bay, Eau Claire, LaCrosse, Wausau, Oshkosh, and 1 in Kingsford. Obama reduced those 8 sites down to 2 for the whole state, and those 25 machines down to about 14 remaining, because he eliminated the Mandate of Next Day Delivery.
The other 3 types of machines mentioned are operated by Clerks, members of the APWU.
DBCSs process solely Letter Mail, at a speed up to 43,000 for the older machines, but about 35-38,000 for the "new & better" versions. The older units often don't run at capacity because the Unionized Postal Workers are too lazy to do the work to allow the machines to function properly.
By 2010, there were about 10,000 DBCSs in USPS - not including several thousand DIOSS, a higher-functioning upgrade to the base DBCS (unlikely that any DIOSSs are being thrown out, nor any DBCS-OSSs.)
Milwaukee had 28, GB had 10.
One of these stories mentions that the 671 machines are about 10% of the current stable - meaning Obama has already cut them down to around 6,700 machines before Trump ever populated the White House.
The next 2 machines are humungus, and not very populous due to the smaller footprint desired by USPS facilities. Sites in WI could barely fit one inside, and often not that.
AFSMs and FSS process Flats mail. They are much, much slower than the letter machines. The flats are "injected" into the carousel at a rate of about 4-7 per second. IIRC 120 per minute was the fastest rate we got out if them, and that was cooking (there are mechanical limitations).
That USPS spokesman said that they were reallocating due to demand, and for years now they have been pointing out that Letters and Flats have been in decline, and now they are switching operations over to focus on package mail.
When time, I need to check the annual mail volume from 2001, and 2010, and 2016, and now. They usually report that stuff every year, along with the total number of unique addresses in the U.S.
https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf
This story mentions that 5 out of 20 DBCSs were removed, again in line with current trends, and a minor fraction of the machines that Obamination get rid of. But the largest Union in the world, APWU, needs to whine about something because their overtime is gone, thanks to Obama eliminating the Mandate of Next Day Delivery about 8-10 years ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/usps-states-delayed-m
ail-in-ballots/2020/08/14/64bf3c3c-dcc7-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html
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Quote:Unfortunately, Trump confirmed he is undercutting the Postal System specifically to win an election.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
More fake news bullshit.
That's all it is. That's all it EVER is.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/trump-proves-biden-right-on-usps-fun
ding-mail-in-ballots/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Libtards Rejoice!!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/postmaster-general-dejoy-says-
he-will-stop-postal-service-changes-until-after-november-election/ar-BB186R0U?li=BBnb7Kz
PMG DeJoy calls halt to Obamination Administration best laid plans and schedule of gutting USPS and screwing Postal Workers.
Now all of the Union crazies can be thankful that Trump has their back, after Obama stabbed them in the back for all those years.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Libtards Rejoice!!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/postmaster-general-dejoy-says-
he-will-stop-postal-service-changes-until-after-november-election/ar-BB186R0U?li=BBnb7Kz
PMG DeJoy calls halt to Obamination Administration best laid plans and schedule of gutting USPS and screwing Postal Workers.
Now all of the Union crazies can be thankful that Trump has their back, after Obama stabbed them in the back for all those years.

Yeah. Obama put DeJoy in charge. You Russian trolls are so funny. He lied his ass off.
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‘Flat-out lied’: Elizabeth Warren and a lot of other people sure think Louis DeJoy committed perjury
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/flat-out-lied-elizabeth-warren-and-a-
lot-of-other-people-sure-think-louis-dejoy-committed-perjury/
Note to honest postal service employees: preserve all documents or other evidence that show that DeJoy was involved in ordering removal of mail sorting machines. Be a whistle blower. If he is lying under oath, he is subject to prosecution.
It will be a DeJoy to watch this evil, lying POS rot in prison for his treason.
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef8qYKQWoAAjB8U?format=jpg&name=360x360
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
‘Flat-out lied’: Elizabeth Warren and a lot of other people sure think Louis DeJoy committed perjury
How's Warren's new Pow Wow Chow 2 book coming along. Yanno, since that old white Karen is an American Indian.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Still a big story.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Too bad Democrats are blowing their load this early again.
2 weeks from now nobody is going to remember your little story.
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When It Comes to the Truth of Opinion Columns, It’s Reader Beware
https://fair.org/home/when-it-comes-to-the-truth-of-opinion-columns-it
s-reader-beware/
when it comes to political columns, sometimes there seem to be different standards applied to right-wing and left-wing writers.
Take an opinion piece published last week in the Washington Post (8/18/20) by Marc A. Thiessen, a former chief speechwriter for George W. Bush and fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, who writes a syndicated column twice weekly for the Post.
Headlined “Democrats’ Postal Conspiracy Is the Biggest Made-Up Controversy Since Russiagate,” Thiessen’s column declares that Democrats, by accusing President Trump of a “campaign to sabotage the election by manipulating the Postal Service to disenfranchise voters,” are engaging in “the biggest made-up controversy since Democrats accused Trump of conspiring with Vladimir Putin to steal the 2016 election.”
Putting aside the fact that, days later, the Republican-run Senate Intelligence Committee basically endorsed the Russia allegation, let’s parse his assertion that post office manipulation is a “made-up controversy.”
It is Trump, as the Post itself ably reported as early as August 12, who said that he wouldn’t approve any stimulus plan that included increased funding for the US Postal Service, after which he pointed out gloatingly that without those funds, the USPS would not be able to deliver mail-in ballots. The stimulus bill, Trump said, would enable “levels of voting that, if you ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again.”
But it gets worse. Thiessen went on to say that Democrats are falsely claiming that the new Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, who has given $2 million to Trump and the GOP since 2016, was appointed by Trump. In truth, Thiessen says, “He was appointed not by Trump but by the unanimous vote of the bipartisan Postal Service board of governors.”
That might sound fair enough to a casual reader. But a quick check of the USPS website, which a Washington Post factchecker could have easily made in minutes, shows that the six sitting members of that board of governors were all picked by Trump. They did indeed all vote unanimously, as Thiessen reported in his column, to confirm Trump’s nominee for thepostmaster general position, but they could hardly be called a bipartisan body.
Actually, Trump curiously allowed the USPS to have no members on its board of governors for much of his first year as president, and by this point, with only five more months left in a four-year term, he has only filled six of the nine available seats. That’s significant, since under the USPS’s rules of operation, it takes the vote of seven governors to remove a postmaster general.
These are all significant facts that give the lie to Thiessen’s assertions in his column.
As Thiessen’s column was being edited (to the extent that it was edited), three of the Post’s reporters—Tony Romm, Lisa Rein and Jacob Bogage—were working on a piece to run the following day, August 19, under the headline “Democrats, Election Watchdogs See ‘Glaring Hole’ in Postal Service Pledge to Roll Back Recent Changes” (8/19/20).
In that straight news article, the reporters report that cutbacks ordered by Postmaster General DeJoy eliminating overtime, removing blue mail drop boxes and removing sorting machines from mail sorting centers “have carried immediate, vast consequences, slowing down mail processing and delivery nationwide.” They add:
The delays have raised the specter of major headaches entering the 2020 election, as millions of Americans opt for mail-in ballots over their local polling places at a time when the deadly coronavirus is sweeping the country.
Thiessen’s column also ran in the Philadelphia Inquirer (8/20/20), under the headline “Democrats’ Postal Conspiracy Another Made-Up Controversy,” As an occasional opinion writer for the Inquirer myself, I note that my work there has always led to calls from a factchecker or editor at the paper. It would appear
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Yanno what a lot of people are going to think?
SO WHAT? WHAT HAVE DEMOCRATS DONE FOR ME LATELY?
It's STILL the economy, stupid.
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So I stopped by to see how this thread is progressing. Just so you know, all of this whining is the DNC's attempt to deligitimize the election.
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#WEARAMASK
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Quote:The economy is the worst it's ever been thanks directly to Trump and his fellow crooks, the Republicans. The rich are riding high on all the free money they've been given.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Yanno what a lot of people are going to think?
SO WHAT? WHAT HAVE DEMOCRATS DONE FOR ME LATELY?
It's STILL the economy, stupid.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/30/89671
4437/3-months-of-hell-u-s-economys-worst-quarter-ever
Obama saved the economy from Bush's failed presidency. Trump is trashing it with handouts to the rich causing record debt.
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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Golly, a pile of useless linkys there (above). But I did find the much ballyhooed USPS document:
https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf
Background: USPS automation machines sort 3 types of mail: Letter Mail, Flats (manilla envelopes, sealed magazines, other packages greater than 8.5" x 11" but not thicker than an inch), and packages.
Letter mail has slowed since 9-11, and so has Flats. While package mail has grown in volume, and is highly competitive, and sought after by competitors - and USPS has had a habit of processing them at a loss of revenue - for decades.
It mentions 4 types of machines. AFCSs, which are actually AFCS-ISS machines, operated by Mail Handlers and Operate at peak efficiency at about 30,000/hr. They can crank their figures up to 34K, but anything over 30k is purely errors. There have not been any base model AFCSs in USPS in more than 10 years.
AFCS-ISS machines process letter mail only. Flats are culled out in the 2nd culling stage. Packages cannot fit in the machine, and if they enter the machine, are culled at the first point (if the machine didn't jam from them). By 2010 there were about 2,000 of these machines. For instance, in WI there were 8 in Milwaukee, 6 in Madison, 2 each in Green Bay, Eau Claire, LaCrosse, Wausau, Oshkosh, and 1 in Kingsford. Obama reduced those 8 sites down to 2 for the whole state, and those 25 machines down to about 14 remaining, because he eliminated the Mandate of Next Day Delivery.
The other 3 types of machines mentioned are operated by Clerks, members of the APWU.
DBCSs process solely Letter Mail, at a speed up to 43,000 for the older machines, but about 35-38,000 for the "new & better" versions. The older units often don't run at capacity because the Unionized Postal Workers are too lazy to do the work to allow the machines to function properly.
By 2010, there were about 10,000 DBCSs in USPS - not including several thousand DIOSS, a higher-functioning upgrade to the base DBCS (unlikely that any DIOSSs are being thrown out, nor any DBCS-OSSs.)
Milwaukee had 28, GB had 10.
One of these stories mentions that the 671 machines are about 10% of the current stable - meaning Obama has already cut them down to around 6,700 machines before Trump ever populated the White House.
The next 2 machines are humungus, and not very populous due to the smaller footprint desired by USPS facilities. Sites in WI could barely fit one inside, and often not that.
AFSMs and FSS process Flats mail. They are much, much slower than the letter machines. The flats are "injected" into the carousel at a rate of about 4-7 per second. IIRC 120 per minute was the fastest rate we got out if them, and that was cooking (there are mechanical limitations).
That USPS spokesman said that they were reallocating due to demand, and for years now they have been pointing out that Letters and Flats have been in decline, and now they are switching operations over to focus on package mail.
When time, I need to check the annual mail volume from 2001, and 2010, and 2016, and now. They usually report that stuff every year, along with the total number of unique addresses in the U.S.
https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf
This story mentions that 5 out of 20 DBCSs were removed, again in line with current trends, and a minor fraction of the machines that Obamination get rid of. But the largest Union in the world, APWU, needs to whine about something because their overtime is gone, thanks to Obama eliminating the Mandate of Next Day Delivery about 8-10 years ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/usps-states-delayed-m
ail-in-ballots/2020/08/14/64bf3c3c-dcc7-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html
This story accidentally leaves in some factual statements - which deflate the Libtard narrative.Quote:
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Quote:You have a serious misunderstanding about what happened, what is happening now, and what Obama did, and didn't, do.
KIKI: SO WHAT? WHAT HAVE DEMOCRATS DONE FOR ME LATELY?
It's STILL the economy, stupid.
REAVERBOT: The economy is the worst it's ever been thanks directly to Trump and his fellow crooks, the Republicans. The rich are riding high on all the free money they've been given.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/30/89671
4437/3-months-of-hell-u-s-economys-worst-quarter-ever
Obama saved the economy from Bush's failed presidency. Trump is trashing it with handouts to the rich causing record debt.
First of all, you continue to misuse words because you don't understand what they mean. Just like you misuse the terms "fascism" and "Nazism" because you don't pay attention to their historical roots, you also don't understand the word "economy", and you conflate it with "finance".
The economy is the exchange of goods and service. Finacialism is "making money with money" through debt creation and speculation.
WHAT OBAMA SAVED WAS FINACIALISM. When the financial system locked up because subprime mortgages (bad debt) imploded, who did Obama save?
THE BANKS.
THE INSURANCES LIKE AIG THAT INSURED "INVESTMENT BANKS" LIKE GOLDMAN SACHS.
Trillions of dollars for the banks, not a single penny for homeowners, who lost their homes in record numbers due to fraudulent foreclosures. Remember "robo-signing"? NOT A SINGLE BANKER WENT TO JAIL FOR WRITING FRAUDULENT LOANS OR SELLING FRAUDULENT "INVESTMENT PRODUCTS".
Obama's "settlement" with the big banks was a slap-on-the-wrist-fine. That, BTW, is when I developed a permanent grotch against Kamala Harris: In order for Obama's "deal" to hold, it had to be accepted by all 50 States Attorney General. As State Atty General for California, one of the biggest centers of the real estate bubble, Kamala Harris could have pricked that settlement by refusing to accept it, but as a Democract corporatist quisling she rolled over instead.
The biggest, fastest, baddest widening of the "wealth gap" happened under Obama, as many of the middle class lost their biggest investment and source of wealth: Their homes. The jobs that were created under Obama were McJobs ... part time, low pay, gig-economy jobs that looked like life preservers to desperate people but which in reality could never support an adult life. That's why so many young people went to college (and are now saddled with unpaybale loans) and/or lived with mom and dad.
Occupy, anyone? (2013)
What has been happening since then is THE FED driving the continuing wealth gap by backstopping their member banks .. buying up their bad assets, loaning them money ... so that their member banks can continue to loan money, interest-free, to big corporations and extremely wealthy individuals who then use that money to speculate in stocks, bonds, and real estate.
NOBODY has saved the economy. In order to save THE ECONOMY you need to have real jobs and real production which means ... among other things... reindustrializing and (at least) maintaining our infrastructure, instead of letting it rot. That means bringing jobs back from China, India, Vietnam, or whatever barrel-bottom they sank to.
But those who make money on money are doing quite well, thank you.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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I completely understand what the fascists are doing. Your Russian troll deflection doesn't change that.
Obama wasn't the progressive he pretended to be. Few Democrats are progressive.
BLAME OBAMA! LOL!
I know you don't live here, so you really don't know what Bush put us through.
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Obama wasn't the progressive he pretended to be. Few Democrats are progressive.
We agree.
The facts are: democrats did nothing for the average worker during the Obama presidency; Hillary and the DNC were all about identity politics as long as you had the right identity; Pelosi as the single most visible representative of democrats in the last 4 years has made the democrats all about being anti-Donald; and the party platform of today is meaningless happy-talk without a commitment to identify and solve the causes of the average American's economic malady.
Democrats can't even pay decent lip service to ordinary Americans and their economic misfortunes.
No amount of Trump-demonizing is going to change the perception that democrats can't even pretend to address our economy that's failed everyday Americans.
x-posted to the 'for democrats' thread
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