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Quote:The prices paid for Obamacare are set by the Medical profession, which chooses the prices to maximize their wealth. Capitalists love that arrangement. In stark contrast, the prices paid by the elderly for Medicare are set by the Federal government. Capitalists hate that interference with their wealth building. It would be better if the government set the prices for both Obamacare and Medicare. Maybe the prices should be exactly the same for everybody, but the Medical profession does not want that, since different prices for different people will maximize wealth building by doctors, hospitals, drug companies, etc.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Obamacare, along with other Democrat policies, is turning the middle class into the poor.
Soon we won't have to worry about that pesky third class anymore. We'll be just like the Russians. Good times.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The prices paid for Obamacare are set by the Medical profession, which chooses the prices to maximize their wealth. Capitalists love that arrangement. In stark contrast, the prices paid by the elderly for Medicare are set by the Federal government. Capitalists hate that interference with their wealth building. It would be better if the government set the prices for both Obamacare and Medicare. Maybe the prices should be exactly the same for everybody, but the Medical profession does not want that, since different prices for different people will maximize wealth building by doctors, hospitals, drug companies, etc.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Obamacare, along with other Democrat policies, is turning the middle class into the poor.
Soon we won't have to worry about that pesky third class anymore. We'll be just like the Russians. Good times.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
If you're looking for an argument from me that the system isn't broke, then look elsewhere.
But all "Obamacare" did was make the rich richer.
If and when you ever stop pretending that isn't the case, we can have a discussion about it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Obamacare did not take control of prices that doctors get paid because, if it had, it would not have gotten the 60 votes it needed in the Senate to pass. So the system stayed broken.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you're looking for an argument from me that the system isn't broke, then look elsewhere.
But all "Obamacare" did was make the rich richer.
If and when you ever stop pretending that isn't the case, we can have a discussion about it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Control of the prices that minimum wage earners get paid are another part of the system that is broken. Can't get 60 votes in the Senate to fix that, either.
Burger King Worker
DENMARK / UNITED STATES
$20 an hour / $9 an hour
5 Weeks paid vacation / No paid vacation
Pension Plan / No Pension Plan
Doesn't have to struggle to get by. / Has to choose between buying food or clothes.
This isn’t because Burger King is nicer in Denmark. It’s the law. and the US is actually the only so-called “developed” country that doesn’t mandate jobs provide a minimum amount of paid vacation, sick leave, or both.
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The Trump Administration Is Waiving the Public’s Right to Affordable Coronavirus Treatments
Standard federal contracts ensure that inventions developed with government funding are available to the public “on reasonable terms.” But the four agreements for Covid-19-related products — three of which were made by a division of the Department of Health and Human Services known as the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, or BARDA, and one of which was made with the Department of Defense — notably omitted the phrase “on reasonable terms.” The government contracts with pharmaceutical companies Janssen, Regeneron, Genentech, and Ology Bioservices also limit the government’s patent rights to the products being developed for Covid-19, even though they are using taxpayer dollars to do so.
The details of the contracts, which were released to the nonprofit advocacy group Knowledge Ecology International, come as another pharmaceutical company, Gilead Sciences, announced pricing for its Covid-19 therapy, remdesivir. That drug, which was developed with at least $79 million in federal funding, will cost private insurers $520 for a single vial, hundreds of times its production cost, which researchers at the University of Liverpool have estimated at 93 cents per dose.
In an open letter on pricing released Monday, Gilead chair and CEO Daniel O’Day said that “we approached this with the aim of helping as many patients as possible, as quickly as possible and in the most responsible way” and noted that in “normal circumstances,” the company would set the price according to the value a drug provides. Based on a study that shows that the hospital stays of patients who take remdesivir are four days shorter on average than those who didn’t take the drug, Gilead estimated that value to be $12,000.
But, given its low production cost, Gilead could profit from remdesivir even if it was priced at just $1 a day, according to an analysis by Public Citizen. Instead the drug, which was rolled out with the help of the Trump administration, will cost insurers between $3,120 for a five-day course of treatment and $5,720 for a 10-day course.
More at https://theintercept.com/2020/07/01/coronavirus-treatment-drug-contrac
ts-trump/
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The radicalism of the American Revolution — and its lessons for today
Ezra Klein
What do we get wrong about the Declaration of Independence?
Danielle Allen
The first thing we get wrong is the notion that we should focus on Thomas Jefferson as the author. He put on his tombstone “author, the Declaration of Independence.” That was a real self-aggrandizing gesture. In fact, he was just the scribe. The intellectual work of the declaration was driven significantly by John Adams and Benjamin Franklin.
That’s an important thing to say out loud because Adams is someone who never owned slaves and Franklin was somebody who was an enslaver earlier in his life but repudiated enslavement and became a vocal advocate of abolition. Both Adams and Franklin were in a different place on enslavement than Jefferson was.
That matters. The Declaration of Independence fed straight into abolitionist movements and efforts. It was the basis of a text that was submitted in Massachusetts in January 1777 moving forward abolition, and abolition had been achieved already in Massachusetts and Pennsylvania by the early 1770s and 1780s.
When we focus on Jefferson, we get one part of America’s story — the story of the slaveholding South. We don’t get the part of the story which was about how abolitionism was developing already, even in the 18th century. That’s part of our story in history, too. We should see it and tell it.
Ezra Klein
That’s a corrective to something that I’ve bought into myself, which is that the central story of the Declaration of Independence is one of hypocrisy — at the same time these beautiful ideals were being written, they were being betrayed. What you seem to be saying is that this story is only partial — that feeding into the Declaration Independence was conscious abolitionist intent.
Danielle Allen
Yes, there was already conscious abolitionist intention by the 1770s. The person who is famous for having coined the “no taxation without representation” argument, James Otis, had already in 1760 written a powerful pamphlet against enslavement. So there was a strand of revolutionary thought that worked its way all the way through to seeing the need for the end of enslavement. Thomas Paine was another figure of whom that’s true.
More at www.vox.com/2020/7/3/21311294/delcaration-of-independence-fourth-of-ju
ly-american-revolution-the-ezra-klein-show
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"What do we get wrong about the Declaration of Independence?"
According to Vox.
Nobody gives a shit what Vox has to say on that subject matter.
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Quote:It was NOT Vox that said it, but a book that said the writers of the Declaration of Independence (John Adams and Ben Franklin) were thinking that ending slavery was necessary even though Thomas Jefferson wanted slavery to last so that he could continue living in luxury and never have to work hard, not at all like Adams and Franklin were thinking.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
"What do we get wrong about the Declaration of Independence?"
According to Vox.
Nobody gives a shit what Vox has to say on that subject matter.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
In 21st Century America, most of the Upper 1% think exactly the same as Jefferson. They see what is wrong with America, but they hope change comes after they are dead and they won't cooperate with immediate change because that would immediately make them poorer and force them to work harder. Who wants that if you are selfish and rich? You'd have to be like Adams or Franklin, not like Jefferson, to want that.
The book is Danielle Allen's "Our Declaration: A Reading of the Declaration of Independence in Defense of Equality"
www.amazon.com/Our-Declaration-Reading-Independence-Equality-ebook/dp/
B00FPT5KYW
Free download at https://libgen.unblockit.id/search.php?req=Danielle+Allen
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If Vox is promoting the book, I have no interest in reading it.
Vox hates America.
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Clinton on Trump's handling of coronavirus: 'I would have done a better job'
Someone should tell her every time she opens her mouth about politics, she makes Trump's reelection job easier.
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Hillary would have called the virus deplorable right before starting World War III.
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