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Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:12 PM

BTW... Pence will never be president. He's got to be the most boring and silent VP that ever existed, and most people haven't even heard him speak once since he debated Kane.

I wouldn't be surprised if the lead-up to 2024 saw somebody like Candice Owens running on the Republican ticket, and I think she'd get the nomination too.

I would so love to see the first female and black female president be on the Republican ticket. Get Ivanaka as her running mate and they can't lose in 2024.



You guys and gals should really go on YouTube more and see what actual black people have to say about 2020 so far instead of letting rich white people on CNN and MSNBC tell you what they think.

But be warned that you're going to have that fantasy world you've been living in shattered if you do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Yeah. We get it. You're rich dude.

lol

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
BTW... Pence will never be president. He's got to be the most boring and silent VP that ever existed, and most people haven't even heard him speak once since he debated Kane.

I wouldn't be surprised if the lead-up to 2024 saw somebody like Candice Owens running on the Republican ticket, and I think she'd get the nomination too.

I would so love to see the first female and black female president be on the Republican ticket. Get Ivanaka as her running mate and they can't lose in 2024.



You guys and gals should really go on YouTube more and see what actual black people have to say about 2020 so far instead of letting rich white people on CNN and MSNBC tell you what they think.

But be warned that you're going to have that fantasy world you've been living in shattered if you do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, I live in the real world, and I have the proof all around me. The Trump voters who are not rich live in dreams and fantasies while people like me control their real world. If we want to lower their wages, we can do that. If we want to ship their jobs overseas, we can do that. Raise prices? Can do! If we want to fire them, we can and they can't stop us. That is the kind of power that you don't have, 6ix, and Trump won't remind you that he and other of his class took it away from you 40 years ago.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, June 28, 2020 11:26 PM

You, personally, cannot do any of that.

You live in your mom's basement and leach off of her.

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Sunday, June 28, 2020 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You, personally, cannot do any of that.

You live in your mom's basement and leach off of her.

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My Mother died when she was 94 years old in 2013. You keep reminding me why you are poor -- you don't learn, but here is some old history that shines light on what is happening today:

More soldiers fought to keep slavery than owned slaves. Why? They were easily persuaded by rich slave-owners. If the poorer Trump voters want to fight to save the property and power of today’s equivalent to rich slave-owners, go right ahead. But learn from the past. If you are fighting to protect the rich, at least get rich Trump to pay you in real money rather than reward you with praise and psychological benefits. Trump and rich Republicans and Democrats will be well paid if he wins. Why not you? (You won't get paid because he knows you'll do it for free. You're that stupid.)

www.history.com/news/5-myths-about-slavery
https://web.archive.org/web/20200620235008/https://www.theatlantic.com
/national/archive/2010/08/small-truth-papering-over-a-big-lie/61136
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, June 29, 2020 4:18 AM

Oh. So she gave you the house when she died.

Whatever.

Nobody cares dude.

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Monday, June 29, 2020 5:22 PM

I Read (Almost) Every Memoir by a Former Trump Official

Together they reveal the full picture.

https://slate.com/culture/2020/06/best-trump-books-memoirs-bolton-room
-where-it-happened.html


Exposés of the dysfunctional inner workings of the Trump White House have reaped plenty of cash for the book business, but the best dish has mostly come from outsiders, journalists like Michael Wolff (2018’s Fire and Fury), Bob Woodward (2018’s Fear), and Washington Post reporters Carol D. Leonnig and Philip Rucker (this year’s A Very Stable Genius). Books by former Trump staffers — of which John Bolton’s headline-making The Room Where It Happened is the most recent — tend to be stunted, partial accounts, twisted like bonsai trees by the authors’ needs to make excuses, cover their tracks, and justify choices that in retrospect look poor indeed.

But taken all together, these staffer memoirs offer a sense of something that no outsider can ever completely understand: what it’s like to live in Trump World. That’s what its denizens call the alternate reality surrounding our petty, distractible, praise-hungry president. Under its spell, people strive to gain and hold onto their perches in what has to be one of the worst workplaces in the history of the ruling classes, short of Caligula’s Rome. The Room Where It Happened contains its share of outraging scoops, thoroughly covered elsewhere, and is as replete with pontification, chickenhawk saber rattling, and numbing notebook dumps as its initial reviewers have attested. But it also provides the public with yet another facet of the mad tea party that is Trump World.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, June 29, 2020 6:12 PM

Laura Miller is an activist and Slate is trash.



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Monday, June 29, 2020 6:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Laura Miller is an activist and Slate is trash.



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Both FBI Directors Comey and McCabe have backgrounds that ideally position them to compare Trump to a mob boss — but, really, isn’t this an insult to mob bosses? Running an extensive and ongoing criminal enterprise requires a consistency and an accountability to one’s underlings that Trump has never exhibited. And as Sims ruefully puts it at the end of Team of Vipers, “He hadn’t lifted a finger for countless loyal aides before me, and I’m sure he wouldn’t for countless loyal aides to come. It was well known that in Trump World, loyalty was mostly a one-way street.” Mafiosi may impose primitive honor codes, but as Comey observes with no small fascination, these are nevertheless codes that apply to everyone. How long could a mob boss as capricious and untrustworthy as Trump last before his lieutenants revolted and replaced him with someone more competent?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 4:31 PM

Obamacare Versus the G.O.P.

The G.O.P. has ten years of failed promises to come up with something better.

www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/opinion/obamacare-coronavirus-republicans.h
tml


June 29, 2020, 7:02 p.m. ET

Covid-19 cases are surging in states that took Donald Trump’s advice and reopened for business too soon. This new surge — is it OK now to call it a second wave? — is, on average, hitting people younger than the initial surge in the Northeast did. Perhaps as a result, rising infections haven’t been reflected in a comparable rise in deaths, although that may be only a matter of time.

There is, however, growing evidence that even those who survive Covid-19 can suffer long-term adverse effects: scarred lungs, damaged hearts and perhaps neurological disorders.

And if the Trump administration gets its way, there may be another source of long-term damage: permanent inability to get health insurance.

Remarkably, last week the administration reaffirmed its support for a lawsuit seeking to overturn the Affordable Care Act, which would, among other things, eliminate protection for Americans with pre-existing medical conditions. If the suit were to succeed, having had Covid-19 would surely be one of the pre-existing conditions making health insurance hard, perhaps impossible, to get.

Now, the legal argument behind the case is beyond flimsy: The lawsuit claims that the 2017 tax cut effectively invalidated the act, even though that was no part of Congress’s intention. But with a conservative majority on the Supreme Court, nobody knows what will happen. And Trump’s support for the suit makes it clear that if re-elected he will do all he can to destroy Obamacare.

Not to worry, says the president. In tweets over the weekend he insisted that he would come up with an alternative to Obamacare that would be “FAR BETTER AND MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE” while protecting Americans with pre-existing conditions.

But he’s been claiming to have a much better alternative to Obamacare since he took office. Republicans in Congress, who voted to repeal Obamacare 70 times during the Obama years, have been making the same claim for more than a decade.

Yet somehow the great alternative to the Affordable Care Act has never materialized. In 2017, when the G.O.P. finally came close to repealing the act — failing thanks only to a last-minute change of heart on the part of Senator John McCain — the plan on offer would have stripped away protection for pre-existing conditions and added 23 million Americans to the ranks of the uninsured.

In other words, Republicans’ insistence that they have a superior alternative to Obamacare is a zombie lie — a claim that should be dead after having been proved false again and again, but it is still shambling along, eating people’s brains.

But why can’t Republicans come up with a better alternative to Obamacare? Are they just incompetent? Possibly — but even if they did know what they were doing, they couldn’t produce a superior plan, because no such plan is possible. In particular, unless you’re willing to move left instead of right, by going for single payer, the only way to guarantee coverage for Americans with pre-existing conditions is a system that looks a lot like Obamacare.

The logic here has been clear from the beginning. To ensure coverage of people with pre-existing conditions, you have to prohibit insurers from discriminating based on medical history. But that’s not enough: To provide a decent risk pool, you also have to induce healthy people to sign up, preferably with both subsidies and a penalty for being uninsured. In other words, you need a system that is basically Obamacare.

The 2017 tax cut, which did away with the individual mandate — the penalty for noninsurance — weakened the system; you can see this by the fact that states, like New Jersey, that imposed their own mandates saw a drop in insurance premiums. But the design of the subsidies, which insulated most people from rising premiums, contained the damage: The percentage of Americans without health insurance, wh

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:25 PM

Obamacare, along with other Democrat policies, is turning the middle class into the poor.

Soon we won't have to worry about that pesky third class anymore. We'll be just like the Russians. Good times.

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