Like I said, F*** Russia

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WISHIMAY

Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:09 AM

Dictators in Russia shutting down opposition to Dictatorship.

I'm sure Kiki and Sig will say something like "They were arrested for their own protection", RIGHT?

What's the harm in a little light slavery? That's what a dictatorship is, right?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49125045

Police in Moscow have detained more than 1,000 people at a rally, in one of the biggest crackdowns in years.

Demonstrators were dragged away from the city hall as security forces used batons against the crowd.

People were protesting against the exclusion of opposition candidates from local polls. The opposition say they were barred for political reasons.

Some of the candidates banned from standing in the 8 September election had been detained earlier.

WISHIMAY

Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:21 AM

I'm wondering how long before the protesters start disappearing...

It's just a flu, right, Sig and KIKI??

How long do you think you can cover Putin??

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:22 AM

Nilbog.

Misery.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:35 AM

You got nothing and you KNOW IT.

You are just a piece of dumb, poor, white trash.

JONGSSTRAW

Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

You got nothing and you KNOW IT. You are just a piece of dumb, poor, white trash.

Wishy the Pig: (snort snort) "You got nothing and you KNOW IT. You are just a piece of dumb, poor, white trash."

Sir Oinksalot: "Bite my kielbasa, you miserable psycho bitch!"

WISHIMAY

Sunday, July 28, 2019 10:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Wishy the Pig:

Aww, I like piggies, thanks!

Domesticated ones are often smarter than than the average dog, and I am awfully pink. I'll take it!

PS.. Can you call me an elephant next? I LOVES me some 'phants!

WISHIMAY

Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:12 AM

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/putin-facing-growing-anger-r
ussia-200616190716489.html

Yeah, I think everyone KNOWS why Chumpie hasn't taken any action against Sugar Daddy Putin...

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/504770-russian-intelligen
ce-unit-offered-bounties-for-killing-coalition

A Russian military unit secretly sought to offer rewards to Taliban-linked militants to incentivize them to hunt and kill coalition forces in Afghanistan as the Trump administration engaged in peace talks to end the nearly two-decade long war, U.S. intelligence officials have reportedly concluded.

The New York Times, citing officials briefed on the matter, reported Friday that the U.S. intelligence apparatus has known for months about the alleged efforts of the Russian military intelligence unit, which reportedly provided rewards to militants for successful attacks last year.

U.S. troops were among the targeted coalition forces, according to the Times, which reported that some militants or associated entities are believed to have received reward money.

While 20 Americans died last year in combat in Afghanistan, it is unclear how many — or which specific cases — are linked to the killing bounties, the newspaper reported.

President Trump and other intelligence officials on the National Security Council reportedly discussed the matter in a meeting in late March, where they weighed a series of potential responses. However, no formal steps have been made, the Times reported.

The newspaper's sources said they were unclear why there has been a delay. The motivations of the Russian intelligence unit's alleged efforts are also unclear.

If you are wondering... 90 military personnel have been killed so far this year.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:31 AM

lol

Whatever.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Monday, June 29, 2020 7:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Dictators in Russia shutting down opposition to Dictatorship.

I'm sure Kiki and Sig will say something like "They were arrested for their own protection", RIGHT?

What's the harm in a little light slavery? That's what a dictatorship is, right?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49125045

Police in Moscow have detained more than 1,000 people at a rally, in one of the biggest crackdowns in years.

Demonstrators were dragged away from the city hall as security forces used batons against the crowd.

People were protesting against the exclusion of opposition candidates from local polls. The opposition say they were barred for political reasons.

Some of the candidates banned from standing in the 8 September election had been detained earlier.

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

1KIKI

Monday, June 29, 2020 8:03 AM

Quote:

I'm sure Kiki and Sig will say something like "They were arrested for their own protection", RIGHT?

Naw, I'll say what I always say -

And why do YOU care, WISHY? As far as I know, Russia isn't YOUR country, is it? 'Cause jeeze, you spend more time obsessing about Putin and Russia, and criticizing Putin and Russia, and posting about Putin and Russia, and trolling about Putin and Russia, than any American I know. In all the conversations over all the decades with all the people in general I've conversed with - coworkers, friends, neighbors, causal acquaintances, random strangers at the laundromat or doctor's office or grocery store - Russia has never come up. Not even once. And I've never, ever, started a thread about RussiaPutinRussia here.

So, yeah ... ... ... ...

Whatever.

It's not my country, not my problem, and not even a tiny bit of my interest. And if Russians have a problem with it, they can do something about it. Themselves.

WISHIMAY

Monday, June 29, 2020 2:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

And why do YOU care, WISHY? As far as I know, Russia isn't YOUR country, is it?

You just asked me why I CARE that Russia is executing OUR SOLDIERS and placing bounties on OUR SOLDIERS, and you don't see how you NOT CARING makes you a Commie-loving Fascist??

Seriously, GO SUCK A DICK

I've said it before but I'll say it again for the demented here....HUBBY IS EX-MILITARY, YOU IDIOT!

WISHIMAY

Monday, June 29, 2020 2:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

If you are wondering... 90 military personnel have been killed so far this year.

THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY Chump didn't know, there is NO FUCKING WAY he wasn't briefed about it once in five months. Had to have done at least one condolence call and been informed how they died... What gullible racist pieces of trash his supporters are!

1KIKI

Monday, June 29, 2020 2:11 PM

So?

US intelligence knew about it and US military did nothing. Even if it was only an unconfirmed rumor they should have put US troops into a more secure situation.

Whatever we didn't do is on us.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/28/us/politics/russian-bounties-warnin
gs-trump.html
Spies and Commandos Warned Months Ago of Russian Bounties on U.S. Troops

ETA: Let me opine even further. Afghanistan is our current Vietnam. There are our troops, fighting in some godforsaken country for decidedly non-military goals that have nothing to do with US military security, working with a foreign government so corrupt even WE don't know if they're on our side or just playing us, where we don't speak the language, and everyone looks alike. There we are, again, putting troops in harm's way so they can be in the middle of someone else's civil war. And there's our military brass, so incompetent it can't even figure out how to keep troops out of harm's way from a known threat.

I sure as hell would hate to be deployed there for no good reason, with my life decided by some boob who can't tell up from down, and who's concerned only with looking good in Washington and getting a nice fat pension and a lucrative revolving-door government-privateconsulting-lobbyist sinecure at the end.

I'm guessing Russia did that to us. Right?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, June 29, 2020 6:15 PM

Wishy's afraid that Putin has a personal hit on her ex-military husband because, yanno, dumb.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Monday, June 29, 2020 7:16 PM

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

Trump denies NYT report on Russia bounties placed on US troops

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, June 29, 2020 7:30 PM

The NYT Trash rag article in question.

(Archived, of course, since I will no longer be clicking on any of these websites directly and giving them any ad revenue to reward them peddling lies).

https://web.archive.org/web/20200629131928/https://www.nytimes.com/202
0/06/26/us/politics/russia-afghanistan-bounties.html

"American intelligence officials..."
"...according to officials briefed on the matter."
"...the officials said."
"...the officials said."
"...the officials said."
"Spokespeople at the National Security Council, the Pentagon, the State Department and the C.I.A. declined to comment."
"The officials familiar with the intelligence..."
"The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity..."
"They said..."
"The officials did not describe..."
"Although officials collected the intelligence earlier in the year..."
"Both American and Afghan officials"
"While officials were said... they have greater uncertainty..."
"Some officials have theorized..."
"Officials have also suggested..."
"The officials briefed on the matter said..."
"Western intelligence officials say..."
"American intelligence officials say..."
"..., American officials say..."
"... but officials briefed on its operations say..."

Yes. That is all in one single article.

So Ted...

Let me ask you this one simple question.

In a parallel world where the NYT shilled constantly for Republicans instead of Democrats, would you have read a story with verbiage such as this about the Obama administration and taken any of it as fact?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Monday, June 29, 2020 8:06 PM

https://www.msnbc.com/kasie-dc/watch/-i-m-sick-to-my-stomach-outrage-o
ver-u-s-intelligence-that-russians-offered-taliban-bounties-to-kill-americans-86300229900

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, June 29, 2020 9:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The NYT Trash rag article in question.

(Archived, of course, since I will no longer be clicking on any of these websites directly and giving them any ad revenue to reward them peddling lies).

https://web.archive.org/web/20200629131928/https://www.nytimes.com/202
0/06/26/us/politics/russia-afghanistan-bounties.html

"American intelligence officials..."
"...according to officials briefed on the matter."
"...the officials said."
"...the officials said."
"...the officials said."
"Spokespeople at the National Security Council, the Pentagon, the State Department and the C.I.A. declined to comment."
"The officials familiar with the intelligence..."
"The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity..."
"They said..."
"The officials did not describe..."
"Although officials collected the intelligence earlier in the year..."
"Both American and Afghan officials"
"While officials were said... they have greater uncertainty..."
"Some officials have theorized..."
"Officials have also suggested..."
"The officials briefed on the matter said..."
"Western intelligence officials say..."
"American intelligence officials say..."
"..., American officials say..."
"... but officials briefed on its operations say..."

Yes. That is all in one single article.

So Ted...

Let me ask you this one simple question.

In a parallel world where the NYT shilled constantly for Republicans instead of Democrats, would you have read a story with verbiage such as this about the Obama administration and taken any of it as fact?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, June 29, 2020 10:21 PM

Answer the question.

Coward.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 4:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Answer the question.

Coward.

Lol. Whatever.

Sound familiar, coward??

Oh, and HYPOCRITE!

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 7:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Lol. Whatever.

Sound familiar

Yup. The standard reply to your stupid ass.

Quote:
, coward??

How so?

Quote:
Oh, and HYPOCRITE!

How so?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:56 AM

Looks like WISHY got duped by fake news, again.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:48 AM

Imagine that, huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 1:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Looks like WISHY got duped by fake news, again.

It looks like the Commie Cocksucker Twins are doing their very best to downplay or repudiate things that are in America's best interest to acknowledge...

What a surprise

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8473209/White-House-aware-Rus
sian-bounties-2019.html

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 2:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

How so?

Duh, Demanding he answer your questions when your stupid azz doesn't answer questions ALL THE TIME.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 2:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Looks like WISHY got duped by fake news, again.

It looks like the Commie Cocksucker Twins are doing their very best to downplay or repudiate things that are in America's best interest to acknowledge...

What a surprise

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8473209/White-House-aware-Rus
sian-bounties-2019.html

Why do you keep linking sources that have proven themselves to be unreliable? Do you think that it's because it's "British" that it's more objective? The Steele "dossier" ... piece of twaddle ... was British, right? So was the initial "intelligence" that said Saddam had WMD. BOLTON propagated that lie in the USA. The moment anyone posts "Bolton said..." my brain shuts off, especially if it comes thru the BBC, NYT, MSNBC, WaPo, and other M$M outlets.

Bolton is a know liar. Why are they quoting him?

Hello? Sorting fact from fiction isn't an easy task, so I suggest you get started on figuring it out. Sooner is best.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 3:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Looks like WISHY got duped by fake news, again.

It looks like the Commie Cocksucker Twins are doing their very best to downplay or repudiate things that are in America's best interest to acknowledge...

What a surprise

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8473209/White-House-aware-Rus
sian-bounties-2019.html

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

1KIKI

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 3:09 PM

WHAT's in America's best interest to acknowledge?

If a threat was known ahead of time, the result was the military did nothing about it, and that was clearly the military's fault.

If a threat wasn't known ahead of time the lack of proper intelligence was intelligence's fault.

If there was no threat at all and this is just another fabricated dog and pony show designed to get Trump, I'm afraid it came too far ahead of the November election to be meaningful.

There doesn't seem to be a 'there' there.

What exactly is the problem?

SECOND

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

There doesn't seem to be a 'there' there.

What exactly is the problem?

Senate Republicans are the problem.

Senate Republicans are vowing to get to the bottom of bombshell reports that Russia offered bounties to Afghan militants for targeted killings of U.S. troops overseas — and suggesting that retaliation against Moscow may be in order.

Key committee chairs made clear on Monday that they will press the White House for answers about the intelligence assessments, and GOP senators pushed President Donald Trump to exact severe punishments on the Kremlin if the claims are true — even as the president asserts that he was never briefed on the matter.

“I want to understand how it’s conceivably possible that the president didn’t know. How does that possibly happen?” Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said. “Number two, what is their plan to make sure that our enemies know that if you target American servicemen and women, the consequences are going to be draconian? And right now, I want to hear their plan for Taliban and GRU agents in body bags.” GRU refers to Russia’s military intelligence agency.

Senators have already proposed harsh repercussions, including imposing new sanctions and designating Moscow as a state sponsor of terrorism — a step the Trump administration has thus far refused to take.

Asked whether there was any progress on scheduling a briefing, Senate Armed Services Chair Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.) bluntly said: “No.” Senate Republicans indicated on Monday that they would continue to press for a classified briefing.

“I think it’s incumbent on the administration to brief Congress, and they’re in the process of doing it,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said.

“I want to get the facts. Does it surprise me about [Russian President Vladimir] Putin? He’s our adversary, he supports Iran, he’s a thug,” Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) added.

Despite the White House’s posture, GOP senators are coalescing around efforts to punish Russia. Sen. Cory Gardner of Colorado, one of the most vulnerable Republicans up for reelection this year, renewed his push for legislation that would put pressure on the State Department to declare Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism. Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), who also faces a reelection battle this year, appeared to endorse Gardner’s push.

Sen. Todd Young (R-Ind.) wrote a separate letter to Trump on Monday urging him to hold Putin accountable over the alleged bounties.

“Depending on where the facts lead, there should be no invitation for the Russian Federation to rejoin the G-7 and you should impose sanctions directly on both President Putin and Foreign Minister [Sergey] Lavrov,” Young wrote.

More at www.politico.com/news/2020/06/29/senate-republicans-trump-russia-34516
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 7:03 PM

Is there evidence the 'bounty' claim is true?

THG

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 7:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Is there evidence the 'bounty' claim is true?

Shoo comrade...

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

How so?

Duh, Demanding he answer your questions when your stupid azz doesn't answer questions ALL THE TIME.

I only did so because he copy and pasted my question in the Garden thread.

But I shouldn't be surprised that is where you were going since you never look at the bigger picture and constantly open your inbred mouth without knowing any facts about anything first.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Is there evidence the 'bounty' claim is true?

Shoo comrade...

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:20 PM

LIKE I SAID: F*** BOLTON, WAPO, NYT, MSNBC, CNN ... and while I'm at it, OBAMA, BRENNAN, CLAPPER, CLINTON, and COMEY.

And you can add BBC, MI6, and a whole host of other deep-state actors.

Quote:
Spy chief Ratcliffe says Trump never briefed on Russia offering Taliban bounties

The nation’s spy chief denied reports that President Trump had been briefed on a U.S. intelligence report claiming that Russian military intelligence was offering bounties to Afghan militants to target U.S. and coalition forces.

“I have confirmed that neither the President nor the Vice President were ever briefed on any intelligence alleged by the New York Times in its reporting yesterday,” Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe said in a statement released just before midnight on Saturday. “The White House statement addressing this issue earlier today, which denied such a briefing occurred, was accurate. The New York Times reporting, and all other subsequent news reports about such an alleged briefing are inaccurate.”

The New York Times reported on Friday that a U.S intelligence assessment concluded that a Russian spy unit paid Taliban-connected militants in Afghanistan to kill U.S. and other coalition troops, even as the Trump administration sought to reach a peace deal involving the Taliban and the Afghan government. The New York Times further reported Trump was briefed about the bounties during an interagency meeting late in March. Officials developed a list of options to respond, but the outlet's sources said the administration has yet to authorize any of the actions.

The Trump administration has denied that Trump was briefed on the alleged plot, although it has neither confirmed nor denied the veracity of the alleged intelligence report itself.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said on Saturday that the United States “receives thousands of intelligence reports a day and they are subject to strict scrutiny” and that “while the White House does not routinely comment on alleged intelligence or internal deliberations, the CIA Director, the National Security Adviser, and the Chief of Staff can all confirm that neither the President nor the Vice President were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence” She added that “this does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of the New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter.”

Richard Grenell, the former acting director of National Intelligence, said the New York Times story wasn’t true when Rep. Ted Lieu, a California Democrat, tweeted at Grenell daring him to confirm whether he did not tell Trump and Vice President Mike Pence about a Russian military intelligence unit offering financial rewards to Taliban militants to kill U.S. troops or that McEnany was lying.

"I never heard this," Grenell said. "And it’s disgusting how you continue to politicize intelligence. You clearly don’t understand how raw intel gets verified. Leaks of partial information to reporters from anonymous sources is dangerous because people like you manipulate it for political gain."

Lieu retorted: “If you are telling the truth, why doesn’t White House deny bounty story instead of saying you didn’t brief @POTUS?”

Grenell replied, “All anonymous sources. And these same reporters gave us the Russian collusion hoax you still hold on to.”

Grenell served as Trump's acting spy chief from Feb. 20 to May 26, overseeing the 17-member U.S. Intelligence Community. He also was U.S. ambassador to Germany and remains the special presidential envoy for Serbia and Kosovo peace negotiations.

Numerous commentators on Twitter began asking why officials would decide not to tell Trump or Pence about a Russian spy unit paying militants to kill U.S. troops.

Grenell responded to an NBC News reporter asking this "obvious and very serious question."

"You are basing a whole bunch of assumptions on an

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SECOND

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Is there evidence the 'bounty' claim is true?

Yes, but we've seen how you reacted many times before; you will say "No" when told about Russia. But your "No" is worth nothing since you are a Russian Troll.

Russian bounties to Taliban-linked militants resulted in deaths of U.S. troops, according to intelligence assessments

https://web.archive.org/web/20200630120510/https://www.washingtonpost.
com/national-security/russian-bounties-to-taliban-linked-militants-resulted-in-deaths-of-us-troops-according-to-intelligence-assessments/2020/06/28/74ffaec2-b96a-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html

www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/russian-bounties-to-taliban-l
inked-militants-resulted-in-deaths-of-us-troops-according-to-intelligence-assessments/2020/06/28/74ffaec2-b96a-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html

June 28, 2020 at 7:00 p.m. CDT
Russian bounties offered to Taliban-linked militants to kill coalition forces in Afghanistan are believed to have resulted in the deaths of several U.S. service members, according to intelligence gleaned from U.S. military interrogations of captured militants in recent months.

Several people familiar with the matter said it was unclear exactly how many Americans or coalition troops from other countries may have been killed or targeted under the program. U.S. forces in Afghanistan suffered a total of 10 deaths from hostile gunfire or improvised bombs in 2018, and 16 in 2019. Two have been killed this year. In each of those years, several service members were also killed by what are known as “green on blue” hostile incidents by members of Afghan security forces, which are sometimes believed to have been infiltrated by the Taliban.

The intelligence was passed up from the U.S. Special Operations forces based in Afghanistan and led to a restricted high-level White House meeting in late March, the people said.

The meeting led to broader discussions about possible responses to the Russian action, ranging from diplomatic expressions of disapproval and warnings, to sanctions, according to two of the people. These people and others who discussed the matter spoke on the condition of anonymity because of its sensitivity.

The disturbing intelligence — which the CIA was tasked with reviewing, and later confirmed — generated disagreement about the appropriate path forward, a senior U.S. official said. The administration’s special envoy for Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, preferred confronting the Russians directly about the matter, while some National Security Council officials in charge of Russia were more dismissive of taking immediate action, the official said.

It remained unclear where those discussions have led to date. Verifying such intelligence is a process that can take weeks, typically involving the CIA and the National Security Agency, which captures foreign cellphone and radio communications. Final drafting of any policy options in response would be the responsibility of national security adviser Robert C. O’Brien.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
LIKE I SAID: F*** BOLTON, WAPO, NYT, MSNBC, CNN ... and while I'm at it, OBAMA, BRENNAN, CLAPPER, CLINTON, and COMEY.

And you can add BBC, MI6, and a whole host of other deep-state actors.

Signym, the Russian Troll must post to get paid by Putin.

The White House appears to be homing in on a defense of last resort for President Trump when it comes to the Russia bounties controversy: He doesn’t read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/30/2-things-that-seem-
explain-trumps-ignorance-about-russias-bounties/

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany on Monday claimed Trump hadn’t been briefed on the intelligence that Russia placed bounties on U.S. troops in Afghanistan. But when pressed on whether the intel appeared in Trump’s written President’s Daily Brief, or PDB, she declined to directly respond.

There appears to be a reason for that. The Washington Post and others have confirmed that the information has indeed appeared in the PDB. The Post reports that two sources say “the intelligence was considered significant and credible enough that it was included in the President’s Daily Brief.” The New York Times is also reporting that information appeared in the PDB in late February. The Associated Press reported that it appeared in the PDB as far back as early 2019. And GOP lawmakers who were briefed Monday at the White House also appeared to grant that the info was probably in the PDB. “I believe it may have been,” Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Tex.) told NBC News.

The first thing to note here is the semantic game the White House appears to be playing. They’re suggesting that the President’s Daily Brief document doesn’t itself constitute a “briefing” — despite having “brief” in its name — but that a briefing must be done orally.

That’s quite the parse. And as longtime Times national security reporter David Sanger notes, it’s not how this works.

David Sanger @SangerNYT
I’ve covered national security over four presidencies. This is the first in which a written intelligence product sent to the President didn’t constitute a “briefing.” https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1277744113870344203

Jim Sciutto @jimsciutto
Several intelligence veterans have advised me to beware administration officials parsing the word “briefed”, as in whether they mean orally briefed or contained in briefing documents. https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1277742879167975430
6:05 AM - Jun 30, 2020

But aside from that, it’s worth distilling the White House’s apparent defense down to its basest form, which is that Trump may have actually been provided the intelligence, but he didn’t actually consume it.

And that makes complete sense, given everything we know about Trump and his approach to both detailed intelligence and — more importantly in this moment — to intel about Russia specifically.

The Post reported in early 2018 that Trump doesn’t read the PDBs:
For much of the past year, President Trump has declined to participate in a practice followed by the past seven of his predecessors: He rarely if ever reads the President’s Daily Brief, a document that lays out the most pressing information collected by U.S. intelligence agencies from hot spots around the world.
Trump has opted to rely on an oral briefing of select intelligence issues in the Oval Office rather than getting the full written document delivered to review separately each day, according to three people familiar with his briefings.

What’s more — and this would seem the most important point given the current imbroglio — even when it comes to oral briefings, aides have been reluctant to even bring up Russia, according to an extensive Post report in late 2017:

Current and former officials said that his daily intelligence update — known as the president’s daily brief, or PDB — is often structured to avoid upsetting him.
Russia-related intelligence that might draw Trump’s ire is in some cases included only in the written assessment and not raised orally, said a former senior intelligence

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:31 PM

Sad.

Sad how easy it was for the globalists who want complete control got you idiots to be their obedient little soldiers.

Your opinion is trash and will be ignored by millions of people who love freedom and are fed up with your bullshit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:39 PM

From SECOND's article

Quote:
according to intelligence gleaned from U.S. military interrogations

...Several people familiar with the matter
...people said
...two of the people
...These people ... anonymity
... a senior U.S. official said
...the official said.
...two people said.

This sounds suspiciously like all of those breathless RSSIA!RUSSIA! "intel", like RUSSIA IN COMMUNICATION WITH TRUMP TOWER! and similar "leaked" lies whipped up the the press. And it seems to refer to the same two people over and over again, one of whom may be Bolt-on.

SECOND's article goes on to say ...

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But as more details have unfolded, the primary controversy in Washington over the weekend revolved around denials by President Trump and his aides that the president was ever briefed on the intelligence.

Trump on Sunday confirmed statements by Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe and the White House press secretary that he received no briefing on the subject, and he referred in tweets to “so-called reports?? by “Fake News.??

“Nobody briefed or told me, [Vice President] Pence or Chief of Staff [Mark Meadows] about the so-called attacks on our troops in Afghanistan by Russians, as reported through an ‘anonymous source’ by the Fake News .?.?. Everybody is denying it & there have not been many attacks on us Trump said on Twitter

There's more bullshit in there about Pelosi's reaction (I think we can ALL predict what she would say, but it has no bearing on the truth) and Liz Cheney's (who was never a friend of Trump anyway)

The fact that Pelosi and Cheney and NYT et al are reduced to hyperventilating tells me there's no "there" there.

When something real turns up, let me know. Until then it stays in my mental shitcan. Where I think it belongs ... in everyone's mental shitcan.

*****

Oh BTW, I'm not "defending Russia". What I AM doing is pointing out how credulous a lot of you are. You STILL believe demonstrated liars?
Why?

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:54 PM

And while all this Russia stuff has gone on, Trump was deplatformed from Twitch and millions of accounts were purged across all social media "platforms" just yesterday.

It's time that we revoke the Publisher's platform shield.

The Left has become an enemy to freedom and the US Constitution.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Is there evidence the 'bounty' claim is true?

Yes, but we've seen how you reacted many times before; you will say "No" when told about Russia. But your "No" is worth nothing since you are a Russian Troll.

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Is there evidence the 'bounty' claim is true?

Yes, but we've seen how you reacted many times before; you will say "No" when told about Russia. But your "No" is worth nothing since you are a Russian Troll.

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

You're the one acting like an authoritarian, a Communist and a Russian.

You're too stupid to realize it.

Ask your coal minors about it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 3:24 AM

It turns out there are three versions of the story and the different factions working inside the White House cannot decide which version to stand behind.

1) The most hideous version of the story is that Trump heard the report — it is well established that the finding was included in the President’s daily intelligence briefing sometime in February — and, apparently, didn’t care.

2) A somewhat less heinous, but still appalling, variation is that Trump asked Russian President Vladimir Putin if the report was true, Putin denied it, and Trump took Putin’s word over that of his own spy services.

3) There is another possibility, which would reflect the dysfunctional chaos reported in several accounts and memoirs of the Trump White House. The U.S. intelligence chiefs have learned that it does them no good — it only wrecks their influence, which they might need in a real crisis — to tell Trump news that he doesn’t want to hear. In January, they wriggled out of their annual briefing to Congress on worldwide threats, so they wouldn’t have to appear on TV disagreeing with Trump. Their reluctance made sense. At the previous year’s hearing, the chiefs testified that Iran was abiding by the nuclear deal, that North Korea would never give up its nuclear weapons, that ISIS continued to stoke violence in Iraq and Syria, and that Russian hackers still posed a threat to America’s elections — as a result of which Dan Coats, the national intelligence director at the time, was fired.

Every Version of the Russian Bounties Story Looks Terrible for Trump

Whatever the president knew, and whenever he knew it, it’s still inexcusable.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/russian-bounties-trump-int
el.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 3:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Is there evidence the 'bounty' claim is true?

Yes, but we've seen how you reacted many times before; you will say "No" when told about Russia. But your "No" is worth nothing since you are a Russian Troll.

Russian bounties to Taliban-linked militants resulted in deaths of U.S. troops, according to intelligence assessments

https://web.archive.org/web/20200630120510/https://www.washingtonpost.
com/national-security/russian-bounties-to-taliban-linked-militants-resulted-in-deaths-of-us-troops-according-to-intelligence-assessments/2020/06/28/74ffaec2-b96a-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html

www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/russian-bounties-to-taliban-l
inked-militants-resulted-in-deaths-of-us-troops-according-to-intelligence-assessments/2020/06/28/74ffaec2-b96a-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html

June 28, 2020 at 7:00 p.m. CDT
Russian bounties offered to Taliban-linked militants to kill coalition forces in Afghanistan are believed to have resulted in the deaths of several U.S. service members, according to intelligence gleaned from U.S. military interrogations of captured militants in recent months.

Several people familiar with the matter said it was unclear exactly how many Americans or coalition troops from other countries may have been killed or targeted under the program. U.S. forces in Afghanistan suffered a total of 10 deaths from hostile gunfire or improvised bombs in 2018, and 16 in 2019. Two have been killed this year. In each of those years, several service members were also killed by what are known as “green on blue” hostile incidents by members of Afghan security forces, which are sometimes believed to have been infiltrated by the Taliban.

The intelligence was passed up from the U.S. Special Operations forces based in Afghanistan and led to a restricted high-level White House meeting in late March, the people said.

The meeting led to broader discussions about possible responses to the Russian action, ranging from diplomatic expressions of disapproval and warnings, to sanctions, according to two of the people. These people and others who discussed the matter spoke on the condition of anonymity because of its sensitivity.

The disturbing intelligence — which the CIA was tasked with reviewing, and later confirmed — generated disagreement about the appropriate path forward, a senior U.S. official said. The administration’s special envoy for Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, preferred confronting the Russians directly about the matter, while some National Security Council officials in charge of Russia were more dismissive of taking immediate action, the official said.

It remained unclear where those discussions have led to date. Verifying such intelligence is a process that can take weeks, typically involving the CIA and the National Security Agency, which captures foreign cellphone and radio communications. Final drafting of any policy options in response would be the responsibility of national security adviser Robert C. O’Brien.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 3:36 AM

I think the White House will settle on the possibility that Trump was told about the bounty payment in the oral and written versions of the briefing — and the fact just hop-skipped in and out of his brain.

John Bolton’s recent memoir and Carl Bernstein’s CNN story about Trump’s phone calls with world leaders provide ample anecdotes suggesting that the president has the attention span of a fruit fly, that he flits from one subject to another with abandon, and that, during briefings, including intelligence briefings, he often does more talking than the briefer. Those who talk more than listen often forget what they are told.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 3:39 AM

I got as far as Russian Troll™ and stopped reading. You know for a fact I'm not one and yet you lie ... and troll ... and lie some more. I can't even think of one single post of yours that hasn't been a lie and a troll.

So all your posts ... I just shitcan.

But keep digging your own grave for your honesty and sanity. I'm not so nice that I don't cheer a bit inside when I watch you spend all that time and energy turning yourself into an ever more odious moral and mental garbage dump.

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 3:45 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Is there evidence the 'bounty' claim is true?

Yes, but we've seen how you reacted many times before; you will say "No" when told about Russia. But your "No" is worth nothing since you are a Russian Troll.

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 3:46 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
LIKE I SAID: F*** BOLTON, WAPO, NYT, MSNBC, CNN ... and while I'm at it, OBAMA, BRENNAN, CLAPPER, CLINTON, and COMEY.

And you can add BBC, MI6, and a whole host of other deep-state actors.
Signym, the Russian Troll must post to get paid by Putin.

The White House appears to be homing in on a defense of last resort for President Trump when it comes to the Russia bounties controversy: He doesn’t read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/30/2-things-that-seem-
explain-trumps-ignorance-about-russias-bounties/

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany on Monday claimed Trump hadn’t been briefed on the intelligence that Russia placed bounties on U.S. troops in Afghanistan. But when pressed on whether the intel appeared in Trump’s written President’s Daily Brief, or PDB, she declined to directly respond.

There appears to be a reason for that. The Washington Post and others have confirmed that the information has indeed appeared in the PDB. The Post reports that two sources say “the intelligence was considered significant and credible enough that it was included in the President’s Daily Brief.” The New York Times is also reporting that information appeared in the PDB in late February. The Associated Press reported that it appeared in the PDB as far back as early 2019. And GOP lawmakers who were briefed Monday at the White House also appeared to grant that the info was probably in the PDB. “I believe it may have been,” Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Tex.) told NBC News.

The first thing to note here is the semantic game the White House appears to be playing. They’re suggesting that the President’s Daily Brief document doesn’t itself constitute a “briefing” — despite having “brief” in its name — but that a briefing must be done orally.

That’s quite the parse. And as longtime Times national security reporter David Sanger notes, it’s not how this works.

David Sanger @SangerNYT
I’ve covered national security over four presidencies. This is the first in which a written intelligence product sent to the President didn’t constitute a “briefing.” https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1277744113870344203

Jim Sciutto @jimsciutto
Several intelligence veterans have advised me to beware administration officials parsing the word “briefed”, as in whether they mean orally briefed or contained in briefing documents. https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1277742879167975430
6:05 AM - Jun 30, 2020

But aside from that, it’s worth distilling the White House’s apparent defense down to its basest form, which is that Trump may have actually been provided the intelligence, but he didn’t actually consume it.

And that makes complete sense, given everything we know about Trump and his approach to both detailed intelligence and — more importantly in this moment — to intel about Russia specifically.

The Post reported in early 2018 that Trump doesn’t read the PDBs:
For much of the past year, President Trump has declined to participate in a practice followed by the past seven of his predecessors: He rarely if ever reads the President’s Daily Brief, a document that lays out the most pressing information collected by U.S. intelligence agencies from hot spots around the world.
Trump has opted to rely on an oral briefing of select intelligence issues in the Oval Office rather than getting the full written document delivered to review separately each day, according to three people familiar with his briefings.

What’s more — and this would seem the most important point given the current imbroglio — even when it comes to oral briefings, aides have been reluctant to even bring up Russia, according to an extensive Post report in late 2017:

Current and former officials said that his daily intelligence update — known as the president’s daily brief, or PDB — is often structured to avoid upsetting him.
Russia-related intelligence that might draw Trump’s ire is in some cases included only in the written assessment and not raised o

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SECOND

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 4:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I got as far as Russian Troll™ and stopped reading. You know for a fact I'm not one and yet you lie ... and troll ... and lie some more. I can't even think of one single post of yours that hasn't been a lie and a troll.

So all your posts ... I just shitcan.

But keep digging your own grave for your honesty and sanity. I'm not so nice that I don't cheer a bit inside when I watch you spend all that time and energy turning yourself into an ever more odious moral and mental garbage dump.

I feel so very sorry for you, but you have the same problem Trump has: you can't digest new information that disagrees with old prejudices.

On one level, the question to ask — and many in Congress, including some Republicans, are asking it — is the old saw from the Watergate inquiry: What did the president know, and when did he know it? But on another level, the answer is almost irrelevant. We have a president who either doesn’t know or doesn’t care what’s happening in the world — and a gaggle of senior advisers whose main job is to comply with his whims and cover up his inadequacies.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:00 AM

What you can't seem to digest is the need for EVIDENCE.

EVIDENCE is paramount. A requirement for EVIDENCE would have kept the US out of a lot of disasters it never should have been in in the first place, from Vietnam to Libya. Maybe you should have learned that lesson back then from Vietnam, instead of becoming a nutcase over 'republicans'. Personally, for me, it's made the difference between swallowing shit like the domino theory, WMD!!! and RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! and crediting actual, real things like SARS-CoV-2.

So, since you were unable to answer the question the first time (which speaks volumes about your mental acuity, btw), let me ask it again - what EVIDENCE is there that this is even real?

SECOND

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
What you can't seem to digest is the need for EVIDENCE.

EVIDENCE is paramount. A requirement for EVIDENCE would have kept the US out of a lot of disasters it never should have been in in the first place, from Vietnam to Libya. Maybe you should have learned that lesson back then from Vietnam, instead of becoming a nutcase over 'republicans'. Personally, for me, it's made the difference between swallowing shit like the domino theory, WMD!!! and RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! and crediting actual, real things like SARS-CoV-2.

So, since you were unable to answer the question the first time (which speaks volumes about your mental acuity, btw), let me ask it again - what EVIDENCE is there that this is even real?

Truly, the evidence that proves Trump did not let Americans be murdered is in the briefing books which, so far, Trump won't let you see, no more than he will let you see, so far, his income tax returns to prove he does not cheat on taxes. In all the years he has been in office, none of his tax returns have been made public, although he could do it with a phone call to his accountant. He could make the briefing books available with one phone call. Trump won't make those phone calls because he cheated on his taxes and Russia paid a bounty for the murder of Americans.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:40 AM

So you CLAIM.

Whatever.

I'm still seeing no EVIDENCE, and neither are you. And I know you're not seeing evidence because there's none to be had.

That lack of evidence SHOULD give your race into delusion at least a small speed bump. You SHOULD be at least briefly wondering 'where is the EVIDENCE?'.

But you can hardly bother to question what you desperately need to believe even though there's a lack of EVIDENCE.

Meh. Yo' still so crazy and morally twisted.

THG

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I got as far as Russian Troll™ and stopped reading. You know for a fact I'm not one and yet you lie ... and troll ... and lie some more. I can't even think of one single post of yours that hasn't been a lie and a troll.

So all your posts ... I just shitcan.

But keep digging your own grave for your honesty and sanity. I'm not so nice that I don't cheer a bit inside when I watch you spend all that time and energy turning yourself into an ever more odious moral and mental garbage dump.
I feel so very sorry for you, but you have the same problem Trump has: you can't digest new information that disagrees with old prejudices.

She's a commie troll second and you know that. Lying is her business.

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:02 AM

So, since you seem intent on ducking reality in favor of feeding your hatreds, let me ask this question again - where is the EVIDENCE that any of this is true?

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I got as far as Russian Troll™ and stopped reading. You know for a fact I'm not one and yet you lie ... and troll ... and lie some more. I can't even think of one single post of yours that hasn't been a lie and a troll.

So all your posts ... I just shitcan.

But keep digging your own grave for your honesty and sanity. I'm not so nice that I don't cheer a bit inside when I watch you spend all that time and energy turning yourself into an ever more odious moral and mental garbage dump.
I feel so very sorry for you, but you have the same problem Trump has: you can't digest new information that disagrees with old prejudices.

She's a commie troll second and you know that. Lying is her business.

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

SECOND

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So you CLAIM.

Whatever.

I'm still seeing no EVIDENCE, and neither are you.

That SHOULD give your fall into delusion at least a small speed bump. But you can hardly bother to question what you desperately need to believe due to a lack of EVIDENCE.

Meh. Yo' still so crazy.

My daughters, all four of them, went Trick-or-treating in 1990. Next day, they were not to eat the candy until after dinner, but they disobeyed, telling me I couldn't prove they ate it. I had found the candy wrappers. They said, like little lawyers and philosophers of science, "Not proof we ate the candy." Technically, they had not lied to me, but they were trying to mislead me. I said, "I will take you to the hospital and have your stomachs pumped if necessary." Then they gleefully admitted eating the candy. We were all happy that they had not gone the next step to a bald-faced lie.

We know Trump ate the candy and if he wants to prove he did not, his stomach could be pumped and his tax returns and briefing books could be made public to prove he isn't a tax-cheater and prove the Russians did not pay a bounty for murdering Americans. But Trump isn't as honest as four little girls are. He will simply lie and then lie some more and he will continue withholding all evidence of his "innocence". Willfully withholding evidence is evidence.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:42 AM

There's one foolproof way to stop me from snickering at you and all of your posts - provide one piece of evidence that what you claim is true.

But in all these years, you haven't been able to do that - not even once.

BTW, yeah, you were an asshole to your children, too and a hypocrite - demanding total honesty from them when you don't even hold yourself down to little white lies and tell large, legally liable whoppers instead.

Jeeze what a corrupt twisted fuck you are.

SECOND

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
There's one foolproof way to stop me from snickering at you and all of your posts - provide one piece of evidence that what you claim is true.

But in all these years, you haven't been able to do that - not even once.

BTW, yeah, you were an asshole to your children, too and a hypocrite - demanding total honesty from them when you don't even hold yourself down to little white lies and tell large, legally liable whoppers instead.

Jeeze what a corrupt twisted fuck you are.

What is this thing you have about protecting Trump's reputation? If he won't protect his reputation by willingly showing the proof of his innocence, which he has on documents such as his briefing books and tax returns, assuming he actually is innocent, then he is giving evidence he is guilty. He can't use the 5th amendment to justify withholding evidence that proves him innocent. The 5th is for withholding evidence of guilt and self-incrimination.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:16 AM

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SECOND:
What is this thing you have about preferring facts and honesty?

fify

IDK. I guess I prefer reality and integrity to whatever it is you're spewing.

BTW, you still haven't been able to post one single solid piece of EVIDENCE to back up your fantasies.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
What you can't seem to digest is the need for EVIDENCE.

EVIDENCE is paramount. A requirement for EVIDENCE would have kept the US out of a lot of disasters it never should have been in in the first place, from Vietnam to Libya. Maybe you should have learned that lesson back then from Vietnam, instead of becoming a nutcase over 'republicans'. Personally, for me, it's made the difference between swallowing shit like the domino theory, WMD!!! and RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! and crediting actual, real things like SARS-CoV-2.

So, since you were unable to answer the question the first time (which speaks volumes about your mental acuity, btw), let me ask it again - what EVIDENCE is there that this is even real?
Truly, the evidence that proves Trump did not let Americans be murdered is in the briefing books which, so far, Trump won't let you see, no more than he will let you see, so far, his income tax returns to prove he does not cheat on taxes. In all the years he has been in office, none of his tax returns have been made public, although he could do it with a phone call to his accountant. He could make the briefing books available with one phone call. Trump won't make those phone calls because he cheated on his taxes and Russia paid a bounty for the murder of Americans.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

So, you have no evidence.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:56 AM

But we have anonymous sources!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:42 AM

Meanwhile, everyone who is willing to go on the record denies that Trump was ever briefed.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:14 PM

It's just more bullshit.

All the news for the last 3 years is bullshit. Probably much, much longer than that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 4:11 PM

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

Circumstantial evidence is indirect evidence which creates an inference from which a main fact may be inferred. For example, circumstantial evidence of a murder is not based on first-hand eyewitness.

Since Trump has taken office the circumstantial evidence of his crimes is endless. The direct evidence of his crimes has been exposed in people testifying under oath. There is also the fact that many at the DOJ believe you cannot indict a sitting president protecting him for now.

Tick tock, it's coming...

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:02 PM

THUGR: Apparently you have yet to figure out the difference between allegation and evidence. Just because some people say something doesn't make it true, especially when those people have been known to lie in the past.

Every time the allegations against Trump are investigated in depth, the "evidence" gets weaker and weaker umtil, in the Mueller probe, Ukrainegate, and the Flynn investigation it goes POOF! and disappears altogther.

The EVIDENCE is telling me that there are an awful lot of liars in the spook agencies, and that the M$M dutifully whips those lies into froth, and stupid people lap it up.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:08 PM

DOOD. You have no clue what evidence is, let alone circumstantial evidence.

Evidence is not gossip, or anonymous unverified claims, or claims that someone said that someone said (hearsay).

Sheesh.

THG

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:44 PM

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:21 PM

Anything on topic?

Of course not!

SECOND

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Meanwhile, everyone who is willing to go on the record denies that Trump was ever briefed.

I only bring up Trump's income taxes because that will enlighten you on what Trump is doing about Russian bounties paid for murdering Americans. Trump could prove the Russians did not pay, but he won't provide the proof, which is in his briefing books. Why not? The briefings do not support his lies to protect Putin that Trump is telling about Russia.

All of Trump's accountants deny he cheated on his taxes, but none of them have made Trump's tax returns public knowledge. Trump promised to publicize his tax returns, but then he didn't. All these denials are worthless. It is the tax returns that have value because those would show Trump did not cheat on his taxes. If 67 Senators could have agreed, Trump could have been forced to reveal his tax returns and forced to prove he is innocent. But the GOP Senators wouldn't agree to make the sociopath President stop lying constantly about his taxes. Similarly, the GOP Senators won't force Trump to make his briefing books available to prove he was never warned about Russian bounties to murder Americans.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:29 PM

Sociopath Trump only bothers sociopath SECOND because Sociopath Trump is richer, more powerful, more well-known, and overall more successful than sociopath SECOND. When sociopath SECOND looks in the mirror he doesn't see a sociopath, he sees a loser sociopath.

SECOND

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Sociopath Trump only bothers sociopath SECOND because Sociopath Trump is richer, more powerful, more well-known, and overall more successful than sociopath SECOND. When sociopath SECOND looks in the mirror he doesn't see a sociopath, he sees a loser sociopath.

It is classic Trump behavior to withhold the proof that he is innocent, but loudly declare himself innocent. He did that with his income tax cheating. He is doing it again with Russia paying bounties to murder Americans. But maybe Trump and Russia are not innocent! That would explain Trump withholding the proof of innocence.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

I think this bot has become self aware.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 2, 2020 3:08 AM

Quote:
SIGNYM: Meanwhile, everyone who is willing to go on the record denies that Trump was ever briefed.

SECOND: I only bring up Trump's income taxes because that will enlighten you on what Trump is doing about

PROBABLY FICTITIOUS

Quote:
Russian bounties paid for murdering Americans. Trump could prove the Russians did not pay, but he won't provide the proof, which is in his briefing books. Why not?

Because Trump should not be required to prove his innocence, over and over, to people who maliciously accuse him of everythong under the sun, most of which never happened.

I think I'm going to start accusing YOU, SECOND, with every post, and then demand that you prove your innocence.

YOU do that multiple times a day, calling me a Russian troll and accusing Trump of problems that have been building/in existence for decades. How about the tables being turned?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

THG

Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:21 AM

Let me see. Will I listen to comrades sig, jack kiki or a navy seal?

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

Former U.S Navy SEAL Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if Donald Trump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit.

THG

Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:26 AM

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

Charlie Savage joins Andrea Mitchell to discuss his new reporting in the New York Times that American officials intercepted data showing large financial transfers between Russian intelligence and Taliban-linked accounts.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 2, 2020 7:38 AM

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

Should somebody tell Ted how funny it is when he posts this to start off whatever bullshit he's posting?

Nah. Let's just get a good laugh every time he does.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:58 AM

THUGR, this is what your post reminds me of

The NYT is the big hippo, and you're the little one.

****

Let's start with MSNBC's spin. MSNBC, you may recall, hosted Rachel Madcow, who spent three years hyperventilating lies.

Quote:
"President Trump is facing more questions today about what he knew about 'the reports'.."

WHICH reports?

Quote:
"American officials intercepted.."

WHICH officials? This would be the domain of the NSA. The NSA says no such data exists. If it did, then let it be brought forward.

Quote:
"...and why he has not taken action"

About reports that may or may not exist, about events which may or may not have happened? What kind of "action" should be taken about something which might not exist?

Quote:
"They" have justified this ... "they've" been telling Congress only the first part of the story..."

"They" who? The National Security Council? The CIA? The DNI? The NSA?

Quote:
The President has not taken any actions

On something which even the MSNBC host recognizes that is, at this point, only an allegation?? Trump has taken action before, like when he struck Syria with missiles, over allegations that proved to be false. Bush invaded Iraq over allegations that proved to be false. People have rioted over allegations that proved to be false, like "hands up, don't shoot" actually never happened. The Democratic Party took action over collusion that not only never existed, it was fabricated by MI6 and the FBI.

MAYBE if the DNC and other rabid partisans and warhawks would actually insist on EVIDENCE, instead of insisting that people jump at shadows, we'd all be better off.

The whole video was garbage and should be shitcanned, and if people want to stop being useful idiots they should withhold judgment until more reliable info becomes available.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:40 AM

Looking forward to another day of Ted posting videos made by the neocons behind The Lincoln Project.

Them neocons... They sure are good at giving names to things that belie their true intent. *cough* *cough* PATRIOT ACT *cough* *cough*

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SECOND:
more fabrications and pointless assertions

fify

You'd think after all this time, you'd be able to cough up one solid piece of evidence for any of your claims. Just one.

WISHIMAY

Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Former U.S Navy SEAL Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if Donald Trump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit.

Don't all *Americans* want to know that.

I fully believe that Trump just thought he could spend his term schmoozing and faking it and make bank for him and his friends. I don't think he expected for a minute that there would be real ramifications to him not giving a single shit about the "details".

I can't believe he's still breathing some days. Any other person on the planet would have been worm food by now.

SECOND

Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:03 PM

Russia did pay extremists to attack U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan, Taliban sources confirm

Taliban commanders have confirmed that Russia has offered financial and material support to its members in exchange for attacking US forces in Afghanistan.

Three separate Taliban sources told Insider they were aware of Russian bounty payments being made — though they said only the less-disciplined elements on the fringes of the group would take up such an offer.

www.businessinsider.com/russia-did-pay-extremists-attack-american-sold
iers-taliban-sources-say-2020-7

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:15 PM

Vladimir Putin could rule Russia until 2036. He's already one of the world's longest-serving leaders

Russian President Vladimir Putin is already one of the world's longest-serving leaders, and on Wednesday, voters paved the way for him to rule the country until 2036.

Early referendum results showed overwhelming support for Putin's proposed constitutional reforms, including one that resets the clock on the President's term limit. Should he win the 2024 election and the next one, six years later, Putin could cling onto power until he is 84, pushing his reign to more than 36 years.

Putin has already been in power for over 20 years, coming in at number 14 on a list of the world's longest-serving leaders, excluding royals, who often serve for life.

His longevity has come from shuffling back and forth between the roles of prime minister and president continuously since 1999. He is regarded as an autocratic leader, and while the country holds elections, they are widely seen as undemocratic and designed in his favor. Election monitors said the 2018 presidential vote was "overly controlled" and "lacked genuine competition."

The length of Putin's rule already puts him in the company of autocrats like Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Rwandan President Paul Kagame, who had the constitution successfully changed so he could extend his rule to 35 years in total.

Should he rule Russia for another two terms, Putin's reign will look more like those of Cameroon's Paul Biya, Equatorial Guinea's Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, Iran's Ali Khamenei and Cambodia's Hun Sen, all of whom have been in power for more than 35 years.

www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/europe/russia-vladimir-putin-longest-serving-le
aders-intl/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:22 PM

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Russia did pay extremists to attack U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan, Taliban sources confirm

Taliban commanders have confirmed that Russia has offered financial and material support to its members in exchange for attacking US forces in Afghanistan.

Three separate Taliban sources told Insider they were aware of Russian bounty payments being made — though they said only the less-disciplined elements on the fringes of the group would take up such an offer.

www.businessinsider.com/russia-did-pay-extremists-attack-american-sold
iers-taliban-sources-say-2020-7

So, how does this square with the report of "bank payments" being tracked to the Taliban? If these are higher-up Taliban members who made these claims, who are these "less disciplined" members getting payments? Does each Taliban member, no matter how lowly or how far out on the "fringe", have their own bank account to which money may be transferred? Or are there bank accounts at the higher Taliban levels, from which payments are distributed internally, and is it these higher-level "fringe" members who are being described as being "less disciplined"? It's hard to see how one allegation squares with the other. It sounds to me more like some Taliban members are making a power grab by weaponizing the allegations.

WHY would the Taliban need to be "incentivized" to kill Americans. Hasn't that been their chief occupation since we invaded, nineteen years ago?. Why would Russian's support these jihadist elements? We did in 1979 (when we called them "freedom fighters" and "mujahideen") when WE were paying them to kill Russians. Why would Russia support a group that led to their ognominious defeat and which is antithetical to their nation?

There is only one American group that I can think of that might need incentive to be ... if not killed, ignored ... and that is the CIA contacts for Afghani drug growing and drug smuggling operations. Everyone knows that Afghanistan is the world's center of opium poppy-growing, and it is widely suspected that the CIA has ties to these operations and it using them as sources of off-book money. Other than that, it seems a waste of money to be paying low-level Taliban grunts to kill low-level American grunts, which they have been happily doing for almost two decades now.

Right now, none of it makes sense, and there is still no EVIDENCE for any of this. Just a lot of people making a lot of accusations, some of which contradict other accusations.

Where's the evidence?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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SECOND

Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So, how does this square with the report of "bank payments" being tracked to the Taliban? If these are higher-up Taliban members who made these claims, who are these "less disciplined" members getting payments? Does each Taliban member, no matter how lowly, have their own bank account to which money may be transferred? Or are there bank accounts at the higher Taliban levels, from which payments are distributed internally, and is it these high-level members who are being described as being "less diciplined"? It's hard to see how one allegation squares with the other.

WHY would the Taliban need to be "incentivized" to kill Americans. Hasn't that been their chief occupation since we invaded, nineteen years ago?. Why would Russian's support these jihadist elements? We did in 1979 (when we called them "freedom fighters" and "mujahideen") when WE were paying them to kill Russians. Why would Russia support a group that led to their ognominious defeat and which is antithetical to their nation?

There is only one American group that I can think of that might need incentive to be ... if not killed, ignored ... and that is the CIA contacts for Afghani drug growing and drug smuggling operations. Everyone knows that Afghanistan is the world's center of opium poppy-growing, and it is widely suspected that the CIA has ties to these operations and it using them as sources of off-book money. Other than that, it seems a waste of money to be paying low-level Taliban grunts to kill low-level American grunts, which they have been happily doing for almost two decades by now.

You have so many questions, Signym, and no URLs to back you up. It is as if you just made up a bunch of questions as a smokescreen.

If you really want to make a good smokescreen, start demanding video of the Taliban delivering dead Americans to Moscow and then receiving a bounty payment. Demand to see the income tax returns from the Taliban and the Russian accountants records of payment. Did any of the Taliban deposit some of the bounty into their 401K? Where are the paper records? Signym, demand paper records that have a signature guarantee from a notary public in Afghanistan or else you refuse to believe.

Go crazy with questions, Signym. Go absolutely nuts.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:22 PM

Quote:
SIGNYM: So, how does this square with the report of "bank payments" being tracked to the Taliban? If these are higher-up Taliban members who made these claims, who are these "less disciplined" members getting payments? Does each Taliban member, no matter how lowly, have their own bank account to which money may be transferred? Or are there bank accounts at the higher Taliban levels, from which payments are distributed internally, and is it these high-level members who are being described as being "less diciplined"? It's hard to see how one allegation squares with the other.

WHY would the Taliban need to be "incentivized" to kill Americans. Hasn't that been their chief occupation since we invaded, nineteen years ago?. Why would Russian's support these jihadist elements? We did in 1979 (when we called them "freedom fighters" and "mujahideen") when WE were paying them to kill Russians. Why would Russia support a group that led to their ognominious defeat and which is antithetical to their nation?

There is only one American group that I can think of that might need incentive to be ... if not killed, ignored ... and that is the CIA contacts for Afghani drug growing and drug smuggling operations. Everyone knows that Afghanistan is the world's center of opium poppy-growing, and it is widely suspected that the CIA has ties to these operations and it using them as sources of off-book money. Other than that, it seems a waste of money to be paying low-level Taliban grunts to kill low-level American grunts, which they have been happily doing for almost two decades by now.

SECOND: You have so many questions, Signym, and no URLs to back you up.

I need URLs to think and ask questions?

Hey. I'm just asking about what YOU posted, and wondering how those posts fit togehter

HINT: They don't. One accusation contradicts the other, like so many of your posts

It would probably help you, a lot, if YOU started asking questions. It might have saved you from your first terrible mistake: joining a war on specious grounds that at that point was winding down.

At least start trying to fit the pieces together and look for contradictions or incosistencies between accusations. Yanno, that's pretty low-level logic, something that even YOU should be capable of, and it would save you the embarassment of contradicting yourself from one post to the next, which is what you freqently do.

For starters, how about those bank records that "somebody" says exists? Where are they?

Since "somebody" has already claimed that they have been recorded by our intelligence, if it really happened I'm sure the GRU could piece together where and how the data might be intercepted. I'll bet the Taliban recipients could do the same. So it would not reveal much to the perps about our "sources and methods" if we show the actual data.

IF WE DON'T SEE THAT DATA, THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT IN THE DARK WOULD BE US AVERAGE AMERICANS. AS USUAL.

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SECOND

Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

IF WE DON'T SEE THAT DATA, THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT IN THE DARK WOULD BE US AVERAGE AMERICANS. AS USUAL.

Trump’s bond with veterans starts to fracture over Russian bounty plot

As Trump grapples with the scandal over his reported inaction after being briefed on a Russian plot to pay bounties for the killing of US troops, a series of military figures have lined up to condemn the president.

As Trump’s response has oscillated between the threat not being credible and him not being made aware of it, some veterans have expressed alarm at the latter explanation – at a president who is not being given, or who is not reading, important briefing documents. “If you’re going to put your life on the line for country, you want to have leadership in place that’s going to value your life, and do what they can to protect you. That’s the deal. So yeah, it’s very personal to me.”

The sentiment was echoed by Erik Hendriks, whose son was killed in an attack in Afghanistan in April 2019. The attack has been linked to the Russian bounty effort, and Hendricks questioned what Trump and the military knew about the plot in advance.

Hendriks’ mother, Felicia Arculeo, and Shawn Gregoire, the mother of Michael Isaiah Nance, who was killed in the same attack, have demanded an investigation into the Russian bounty plot and the Trump administration, as pressure grows on the president to explain what happened.

“I really want someone to get to the bottom of this,” Gregoire told CNBC. “Even if he was not briefed, what’s happening now?”

Referring to Trump, Gregoire asked: “What are you doing now, now that you know?”

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/02/trumps-bond-with-veterans-crac
ks-over-russian-bounty-plot

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Looking forward to another day of Ted posting videos made by the neocons behind The Lincoln Project.

Them neocons... They sure are good at giving names to things that belie their true intent. *cough* *cough* PATRIOT ACT *cough* *cough*

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

lol

I knew Ted wouldn't let me down and would post more neocon videos today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Friday, July 3, 2020 12:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

lol

I knew Ted wouldn't let me down and would post more neocon videos today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Did you know that Trump would call reports of Russian bounties on U.S. troops a “hoax”?
www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-calls-reports-of-russian-bounties-on-u-s-t
roops-a-hoax/

Unfortunately for Trump, it is not a hoax, but he will continue saying "hoax", waiting for the next dozen scandals to obscure this scandal. There is always another, followed by another, which is what happens when the President is goofing off 24/7.
"Russia bounty flap highlights intel breakdown under Trump"
www.politico.com/news/2020/07/01/russia-bounty-intel-breakdown-trump-3
47224

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, July 3, 2020 12:47 AM

Not a reply to what you quoted, so I ignored it like the rest of the bullshit you post.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Friday, July 3, 2020 12:51 AM

Quote:
SIGNYM:
IF WE DON'T SEE THAT DATA, THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT IN THE DARK WOULD BE US AVERAGE AMERICANS. AS USUAL.

SECOND: Trump’s bond with veterans starts to fracture over Russian bounty plot

As Trump grapples with the scandal over his reported inaction

"REPORTED INACTION". This is how the M$M spins their lies.

Quote:
after being briefed

the top intel people are saying that have NOT briefed Trump on this. This looks just like another mouth-breathing spittle-flying hoax on the American people.

Where's the EVIDENCE?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

SECOND

Friday, July 3, 2020 1:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
SIGNYM:
IF WE DON'T SEE THAT DATA, THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT IN THE DARK WOULD BE US AVERAGE AMERICANS. AS USUAL.

SECOND: Trump’s bond with veterans starts to fracture over Russian bounty plot

As Trump grapples with the scandal over his reported inaction
"REPORTED INACTION". This is how the M$M spins their lies.
Quote:
after being briefed
the top intel people are saying that have NOT briefed Trump on this. This looks just like another mouth-breathing spittle-flying hoax on the American people.

Where's the EVIDENCE?

The newspapers told Trump about the Russian bounties on dead Americans. The relatives of dead American soldiers want to know what Trump will do about the Russian bounties. Trump has already done what little he will do -- he will call it a "Hoax!"

Claiming everything is a "Hoax!" has worked for Trump with the Republican Senators, Mitt Romney being the one exception, and maybe the word "Hoax!" will work with voters. We will know in November.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Friday, July 3, 2020 8:51 AM

Quote:
SIGNYM:
IF WE DON'T SEE THAT DATA, THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT IN THE DARK WOULD BE US AVERAGE AMERICANS. AS USUAL.

SECOND: Trump’s bond with veterans starts to fracture over Russian bounty plot

As Trump grapples with the scandal over his reported inaction

SIGNY: "REPORTED INACTION". This is how the M$M spins their lies.

SECOND ... after being briefed ...

SIGNY: The top intel people are saying that have NOT briefed Trump on this. This looks just like another mouth-breathing spittle-flying hoax on the American people.
Where's the EVIDENCE?

SECOND: The newspapers told Trump about the Russian bounties on dead Americans.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

The newspapers told Trump about "collusion" with Russia that not only never happened, it was fabricated by MI6 and the FBI! The newspapers told us that Kavanaugh was a rapist, that Saddam had WMD, that Covington students assaulted a revered elderly Native American, and that Flynn betrayed his country! The newspapers were silent as the grave for years about Epstein's and Maxwell's perversions with kids.

The newspapers are full of shit, just like you. Should Trump respond to every twitch and jerk of shit-flingers like you?

I don't know if you're a paid troll, but you sure act like one.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

SECOND

Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Trump has verified as true the Russian bounty on dead Americans. Trump tries to catch who leaked the Russian bounty story to the news:

Trump administration narrows suspects in Russia bounties leak investigation

Top White House officials have reportedly narrowed the list of potential individuals who could have leaked information about Russian agents providing funds to Taliban-linked militants to target American troops in Afghanistan.

Politico Playbook reported Tuesday that fewer than 10 people remain on a list of suspects in the internal investigation, a sign that President Trump is serious about finding and possibly punishing whichever official was behind the leak to the media.

The White House has faced a bipartisan storm of criticism from lawmakers and other figures, with Democrats and the president battling over whether Trump was briefed on the bounties and some, including Hillary Clinton, his 2016 opponent, accusing the president of ignoring his intelligence briefings entirely.

Congressional Republicans including Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) have also joined in on the criticism, demanding a firm response from the president, who has argued that intelligence surrounding the bounties was not credible.

"I'm interested in hearing the administration speak clearly about their plans that aren't just hypothetical sanctions sometime out in the future, but what should we be doing now to make [Russian intelligence] have more doubts about their behavior not just in Afghanistan but more broadly," Sasse told The Hill this week.

“We shouldn’t be cozied up to Russia or giving them favors of any kind,” added his colleague, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah). “What we do know is Russia’s been helping the Taliban, the Taliban’s been killing Americans, and that’s all I need to know to know that we should be tough on Russia.”

“I certainly wouldn’t want to be inviting them to the G-7,” Romney continued, referring to the Group of Seven.

White House officials have engaged in numerous hunts for leakers throughout Trump's first term, though most have fizzled out without resulting in notable firings.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/506147-trump-administratio
n-narrows-suspects-in-russia-bounty-leak

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:54 PM

Russia did pay bounties for dead Americans and Trump wants to fire whoever told the newspapers about it:

White House searches for intel leakers

-- Searching For Leakers … The Trump administration has opened an internal investigation to try to uncover who leaked intelligence about Russians paying the Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers. The administration maintains the story is overcooked and the leaks cherry-picked despite a steady stream of follow-ups from media outlets across the globe.

The administration has interviewed people with access to the intelligence, and believes it has narrowed down the universe of suspects to fewer than 10 people.

The administration has said it would search for leakers in its ranks on many occasions. Notably, they vowed to find out who wrote an anonymous op-ed in the NYT almost two years ago. They said they’d find who leaked the president’s calendars in February 2019. Most of these probes fizzled out or faded away.

But, the administration seems a bit more worked up about these leaks, due to the highly classified nature of the intelligence.

www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2020/07/07/new-white-house-searc
hes-for-intel-leakers-489718

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:21 PM

Keep making shit up and/or posting made up shit bud.

Nobody cares.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:27 PM

Somebody leaked intelligence to the press that Trump paid prostitutes to pee on him in a Russian hotel.

Trump did an investigation to find out who that was.

The only problem was, the story was false.

Not seeing anything in any story that provides... what is that, again? Oh, yes .... EVIDENCE ... that the story is true.

*****

The newspapers told us Hillary would win.

The newspapers told us Kim Jong Un was dead.

The newspapers FAILED to tell us about the growing pandemic in China, grappling as they were with the impeachment of President with a false charge.

Now the newspapers are hounding Trump with STILL MORE evidence-free accusations. And you're just the one to splatter it here.

Color me "not impressed". When I see a shitstorm of amplified accusations swirling around... "Mother of soldier killed in..." "Sasse also wants to know..." "Pompea called before House..." I know there's no "there" there. The M$M is making a Big Deal About Nothing because all they're doing is talking about people talking about. If there really was anything there, they wouldn't be reduced to such fluff.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

SECOND

Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Somebody leaked intelligence to the press that Trump paid prostitutes to pee on him in a Russian hotel.

Trump did an investigation to find out who that was.

The only problem was, the story was false.

Not seeing anything in any story that provides... what is that, again? Oh, yes .... EVIDENCE ... that the story is true.

Trump did not search the desks of staff in the White House for the pee tapes. But Trump is searching White House staff for the leak on Russian bounties. Trump wishes to know who xeroxed the intelligence report on Russian bounties and gave copies to the news. The search inside the White House for the leaker is evidence that the Russians did pay a bounty for dead Americans and that Trump wants to punish the leaker, not Putin.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Somebody leaked intelligence to the press that Trump paid prostitutes to pee on him in a Russian hotel.

Trump did an investigation to find out who that was.

The only problem was, the story was false.

Not seeing anything in any story that provides... what is that, again? Oh, yes .... EVIDENCE ... that the story is true.
Trump did not search the desks of staff in the White House for the pee tapes. But Trump is searching White House staff for the leak on Russian bounties. Trump wishes to know who xeroxed the intelligence report on Russian bounties and gave copies to the news. The search inside the White House for the leaker is evidence that the Russians did pay a bounty for dead Americans and that Trump wants to punish the leaker, not Putin.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Yanno what, dildo? If lying Schiff knew about it back in February, admitted that Trump didn't know about it until now, and it was leaked by a third party outside of the two of them, I want to fucking know who's doing the leaking myself.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Yanno what, dildo? If lying Schiff knew about it back in February, admitted that Trump didn't know about it until now, and it was leaked by a third party outside of the two of them, I want to fucking know who's doing the leaking myself.

On alleged bounties, White House targets leakers, not Russia

Confronted with intel about Russia putting a bounty on the heads of U.S. troops, the White House is taking action - by hunting for leakers.

Most of the nation's leading news agencies confirmed the story: U.S. intelligence agencies have reason to believe Vladimir Putin's government offered financial rewards to those who killed American servicemen and women.

As the controversy unfolded, there were competing accounts on the scope of the intelligence, but nevertheless, the White House is now prepared to take action -- against those responsible for bringing the story to light.

It's worth emphasizing by Donald Trump's reasoning, there are no leakers to uncover because, as the president put it last week, the entire story was "made up" by journalists as part of an elaborate conspiracy to "damage" his re-election campaign and his party. The "secret source" behind the reporting, Trump added, "probably does not even exist, just like the story itself." The president concluded that the entire matter is "just another hoax."

If Trump were right, then why would the White House seek out a leaker who doesn't exist? How could officials "narrow down the universe of suspects to fewer than 10 people" if the underlying claim was manufactured by nefarious reporters? It would seem the investigation itself debunks the president's claims.

www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/alleged-bounties-white-house-targets-
leakers-not-russia-n1233049

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:53 PM

Quote:
Trump did not search the desks of staff in the White House for the pee tapes. But Trump is searching White House staff for the leak on Russian bounties. Trump wishes to know who xeroxed the intelligence report on Russian bounties and gave copies to the news.

This is all somebody's fervid imagination. If there were actionable intelligence reports that were actually photocopied from the WH desk, why was the initial story attributed to "sources", and so incredibly lacking in detail and ... what is that word again ... oh yes ... EVIDENCE?

Fuzzy intelligence reports that are nothing more than rumors don't make it to the President's ear. I'm sure there are dozens, if not HUNDREDS of rumors about geopolitics swirling around right now, about anything from "What caused the three explosions at Iran's nuclear processing facility" to "What Merkel eating for breakfast signifies about her resistance to US sanctions against Russia".

People are lying, and SECONDHAND apparently can't detect lies, which is why he wound up going to Vietnam to kill people. And now he spends all of his time spreading lies here.

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