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SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:39 AM

The Problem With How the Regime-Change American Left Sees the World and Themselves

Joaquin Flores

June 22, 2020

Imagine believing that you know what is in the best interests of others, and worse, ones you have never even met, and worse still, believing you have a right to improve their situation in the manner and timeline you see fit. The belief that one has the right to save the world is termed ‘communal narcissism’. Therein lies the first problem with progressive imperialism.

The American left in the realm of foreign policy suffers from a type of prosocial communal narcissism, based in their own self-appraisal that their best intentions will be realized in the best outcomes for others, as the narcissist has themself defined it.

But the American left is significantly more dangerous and grotesque compared to standard justifications of imperialism, because it frames the discourse in such a way that it is blind to its own chauvinism, and believes itself to speak for the world.

What in other countries is viewed as quite ugly – believing oneself so enlightened and righteous that they can force others into their own image – has become a quintessential aspect of American culture post 1960’s.

We arrive then at our problem; the leftist approach has relied on soft-power tactics which require a lot more imagination, and yet also hubris, to justify. It is based overtly in telling other countries how to manage themselves as being both philosophically and categorically its proclaimed mandate.

It is the most overt form of imperialism, couched in the language of the left’s understanding of human rights and universalism. It rests gently on the ears and upon the conscience if left unexamined, but in actual fact it is far more malignant. Perhaps because they are so over-used, and perhaps here because they appear to be benign, because American society accepts these as just. But the specter of Dunning-Kruger https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-
4160740#:~:text=The%20Dunning%2DKruger%20effect%20is,to%20recognize%20their%20own%20incompetence. will always rear its ugly head, and the expected outcomes will almost never materialize.

And in typical gas-lighting fashion, the failure of the subject nation to live up to the vision of the narcissist will be blamed upon the subject.

Most dangerously, soft-power tactics situate themselves outside of the founding principles of national self-determination and sovereignty that the UN was established upon in the post-war years, and yet exploits the various corrupt alphabet soup of organizations and agencies that operate under the UN’s umbrella.

Soft-power tactics were born out of a cultural shift within the U.S.., the development of media and later new media, as a form of propaganda and manufactured consent. The role of television media reporting on Vietnam left an American public taken aback by raw images of the terrorism and horror that is war.

Gone forever was the myth of purity of arms. And so a new myth, the myth of soft-power towards regime change, had to be built.

While soft-power tactics may at first appear to be less harmful to the target, because ‘military’ is not used, the socio-economic outcome of such an approach is the very definition of collective punishment and civilian targets, targets which if zeroed in on by the military would qualify as war crimes and crimes against humanity by any reasonable measure.

Enter the Save the World Generation of 1968

The ‘save the world’ generation in America that emerged from the utopian leanings of 1968, in part also out of opposition to the Vietnam War, came to define the left-wing version of American foreign policy.

The popular opposition to the war in Vietnam signaled the need for a new era in American foreign policy development. Richard Falk – the preeminent American professor emeritus of international law at Princeton University – wrote for Foreign Policy Magazine in an article titled ‘What We Should Learn from Vietnam’ published in 1970 or ‘71:

“Where there is no for

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:44 AM

Yup.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, June 23, 2020 10:06 AM

SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 23, 2020 10:40 AM

Nice vid, SIX.

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 23, 2020 12:58 PM

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THIS machine kills fascists

You DO know that was painted on a guitar during WWII, right?
Are you a guitar, stuck in 1944?

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:30 PM

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Nice vid, SIX.

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Yeah. He's got a lot of good videos.

Outside of a few token blacks that Fox News likes to parade around all the time, you never see any blacks that speak out against the narrative in the Legacy Media.

He's hardly an anomaly on YouTube though.

I'm interested in hearing what he's going to have to say about a museum cucking to the Lefty outrage mob and tearing down a statute of Teddy Roosevelt.

I seem to remember Trump asking if statutes of George Washington were next and the Legacy Media claiming that was an outrageous suggestion not too long ago. "No, no... we're only tearing down symbols of the Confederacy. Trump = RACIST. REEEEEE!!!", they said.

Now we have statues of Jefferson, Washington and Roosevelt being torn down, and the Legacy Media cheering it all on.

Fucking Communists.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Wednesday, June 24, 2020 12:14 AM

This statue-tearing down is STUPID.

Germany committed unspeakable atrocities during WWII, most notably the death camps.

Should Germany rewrite history by tearing down the remains of these camps, which serve as reminders of the past?

We keep these monuments, buildings, and names, not to venerate them but to learn from them. For every statue of Jefferson Davis, put up a statue of the horrors of slavery. For every statue of a nothern slave trader, put up a statue of an abolitionist, or a "Yankee" soldier who fought on the union side.

History is complicated, as were the people. Some good intentions led to terrible outcomes. Some terrible forces created postive results. People themselves had both good and bad points. Attempting to make people feel guilty for, and rewrite what happened 200 years ago does a terrible disservice to the people of today.

And if you want to read a REAL alternate history, read Howard Zinn's A People's History.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:34 AM

Well...

And also when you let them tear one down, where do you draw the line?

They said only a few years ago it was Confederates.

Today it's any white man immortalized in statue form.

Do a search and see how many people who were actively working toward abolition and shepherding slaves to safety have had their monuments defaced or knocked down during all of this.

These people don't even know history before the statues were ripped apart. No hope to learn at all from the past when we wipe away the slate.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, June 24, 2020 3:52 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well...

And also when you let them tear one down, where do you draw the line?

They said only a few years ago it was Confederates.

Today it's any white man immortalized in statue form.

GREAT, let's tear them ALL DOWN and put up a zillion statues of Oprah and Whoopie!

Let you live with it for 100 years and see how you feel.

I'm glad insecure little twits like you get to see all the white guys torn down

Like statues matter a damn anyhow.

Hilarious!

SIGNYM

Wednesday, June 24, 2020 4:48 AM

The answer to privilege isn't reverse privilege, WISHY, it's equality.

Maybe you don't believe in equality.

Maybe all you're looking for is revenge for injustices that didn't even happen to you.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, June 24, 2020 7:04 AM

Wishy just hates herself.

Ain't much you can do to fix that. She's the only one who can.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:26 PM

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The answer to privilege isn't reverse privilege, WISHY, it's equality.

You STILL don't have a single fucking clue how people actually work!

DENSE MOFO's.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, June 24, 2020 9:32 PM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The answer to privilege isn't reverse privilege, WISHY, it's equality.

You STILL don't have a single fucking clue how people actually work!

DENSE MOFO's.

Thankfully, "people" have the capacity to "work" on grounds other than thoughtless emotionalism. And I sure wouldn't encourage people "working" like you, because you're a shining example of narcissistic authoritarianism. Seems like you haven't developed past your junior high bully-gang days.

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, June 25, 2020 1:47 AM

The mountain of stupid sh*t SIGNYM FRAUD posts is amazing:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This statue-tearing down is STUPID.

This statue-putting up is STUPID. Even Robert E. Lee was against building them, “As regards the erection of such a monument as is contemplated, my conviction is, that however grateful it would be to the feelings of the South, the attempt in the present condition of the country would have the effect of retarding, instead of accelerating its accomplishment, and of continuing, if not adding to, the difficulties under which the Southern people labour,” he wrote.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Germany committed unspeakable atrocities during WWII, most notably the death camps.
Should Germany rewrite history by tearing down the remains of these camps, which serve as reminders of the past?

People can't idiolize death camps. They idolize people (Idolize definition is - to worship as a god; broadly : to love or admire to excess). Should Germany leave up Hitler and Goebels, etc statues?? Are you kidding us with that weak analogy?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
We keep these monuments, buildings, and names, not to venerate them but to learn from them. For every statue of Jefferson Davis, put up a statue of the horrors of slavery. For every statue of a nothern slave trader, put up a statue of an abolitionist, or a "Yankee" soldier who fought on the union side.

Sure, because putting up statues is free! Who is going to pay for those statues? And statues don't tell you anything other than the community that has them DOES venerate the person depicted. OR ELSE IT WOULDN'T BE THERE. You've never traveled through the south have you? Would you expect to see plaques under these statues, "Here depicted a horrible person, barely human, bought and sold other people, treated people like cattle."

The only question is are you this stupid or just here to agitate? Also, does the answer to that question really matter?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
History is complicated, as were the people. Some good intentions led to terrible outcomes. Some terrible forces created postive results. People themselves had both good and bad points. Attempting to make people feel guilty for, and rewrite what happened 200 years ago does a terrible disservice to the people of today.

Naw - just the opposite in fact. Thanks for your usual sh*t for brains thinking, though.

Here's an idea: how about you complain limply about "Those Damn Banks!" again for the fiftieth time?

WISHIMAY

Thursday, June 25, 2020 3:35 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Should Germany leave up Hitler and Goebels, etc statues??

Pretty sure she and 6ix would be okay with that

"But it's HISTORY...We can't learn about it any other way."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, June 25, 2020 6:11 AM

Let's remove anything that is historically accurate.

Then all we'll be left with for memories of past mistakes is this:

I'm sure people would cower in fear at the mention of this version of Hitler and would do the right thing to make sure that doesn't happen again.

Yanno, by burning books, erasing history, and generally acting exactly like Hitler themselves to do it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Thursday, June 25, 2020 1:25 PM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Should Germany leave up Hitler and Goebels, etc statues??

Pretty sure she and 6ix would be okay with that

"But it's HISTORY...We can't learn about it any other way."

That's up to the Germans, wouldn't you say?

But, yes, IMHO they should keep them if they want. They also banned Mein Kampf for many years, but have recently made it available. Statues aren't dangerous and neither are books. Ideas should be freely discussed. That's what allowed the discussion of gay marriage, which was (if you recall) originally illegal.

The limits of free speech have been tested over and over in the USA; I think they're good and practical limits.

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SIGNYM

Thursday, June 25, 2020 1:38 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
History is complicated, as were the people. Some good intentions led to terrible outcomes. Some terrible forces created postive results. People themselves had both good and bad points. Attempting to make people feel guilty for, and rewrite what happened 200 years ago does a terrible disservice to the people of today.

CC: Naw - just the opposite in fact.

Jefferson was a slave owner, but a passionate proponent of democracy.
Franklin was a wise man who created an efficient stove (and didn't patent it) because he was worried about deforestation even then. He developed a postal and library system. He didn't own slaves, and published practical advice which he never followed because he was a notorious libertine.
George Washington led the colonies to military victory, but was a land-speculator.
Andrew Jackson did away with the central bank (a great idea!) but he was also an "indian killer".
General Sherman brought victory to the Union side and made it ossible to free slaves, but he thought former slaves were deficient and had no use for them, and brought "total war" to Americans.
FDR is thought of as some kind of reforming saint, but in reality he was just saving capitalism from itself.

There are few historical figures who are all good or all bad, and only someone truly ignorant of history would think that they divide up neatly into "good guys" and "bad guys".

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
History is complicated, as were the people. Some good intentions led to terrible outcomes. Some terrible forces created postive results. People themselves had both good and bad points. Attempting to make people feel guilty for, and rewrite what happened 200 years ago does a terrible disservice to the people of today.

CC: Naw - just the opposite in fact.

Jefferson was a slave owner, but a passionate proponent of democracy.
Franklin was a wise man who created an efficient stove (and didn't patent it) because he was worried about deforestation even then. He developed a postal and library system. He didn't own slaves, and published practical advice which he never followed because he was a notorious libertine.
George Washington led the colonies to military victory, but was a land-speculator.
Andrew Jackson did away with the central bank (a great idea!) but he was also an "indian killer".
General Sherman brought victory to the Union side and made it ossible to free slaves, but he thought former slaves were deficient and had no use for them, and brought "total war" to Americans.
FDR is thought of as some kind of reforming saint, but in reality he was just saving capitalism from itself.

There are few historical figures who are all good or all bad, and only someone truly ignorant of history would think that they divide up neatly into "good guys" and "bad guys".

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What nobody seems to bear in mind is that all of these men lived in much different times.

They didn't have the privilege to live in a huge air conditioned home with a million technological gadgets while spending 12 years in a government mandated day care center before going to college to learn about Women's Studies.

And the FDR one is just stupid. It's just the second red flag that these people just want to tear down all white history. The first was a week earlier when they were defacing and tearing down monuments to white men who fought against slavery.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Jefferson was a slave owner, but a passionate proponent of democracy.
Franklin was a wise man who created an efficient stove (and didn't patent it) because he was worried about deforestation even then. He developed a postal and library system. He didn't own slaves, and published practical advice which he never followed because he was a notorious libertine.
George Washington led the colonies to military victory, but was a land-speculator.
Andrew Jackson did away with the central bank (a great idea!) but he was also an "indian killer".
General Sherman brought victory to the Union side and made it ossible to free slaves, but he thought former slaves were deficient and had no use for them, and brought "total war" to Americans.
FDR is thought of as some kind of reforming saint, but in reality he was just saving capitalism from itself.

There are few historical figures who are all good or all bad, and only someone truly ignorant of history would think that they divide up neatly into "good guys" and "bad guys".

So many SIGGY deflections and denials! It's hard to keep track of everything you didn't answer! That just leaves it to us to try and deduce for her:

- she's never been to the south. 24 hours in Vicksburg would make her brain bleed.
- she thinks Lee is wrong and should have statues of himself made whether he likes it or not.
- she doesn't realize that statues are put up to honor, adore, and worship the subject. Hence the phrase, "putting someone on a pedestal." Have you ever heard of that one?
- she thinks people pay a lot of money to put up statues because the subject is just an ok person.
- she thinks people can look at a statue and learn about the person's history of behavior. Did you know about Columbus' brutality? Could you deduce it from looking at his statue?
- she is ok with idolatry, celebrity and hero worship (explains her Trump fetish).
- she really doesn't understand (or is acting stupid again) the entirety free speech, how removing statues of offensive people is a form of free speech.
- she is ok with Germans deciding what statues to keep up, but doesn't think it's ok for Americans to do the same.

How'd I do?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:44 PM

Faggot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Friday, June 26, 2020 1:19 PM

Oh, I have a point-by-point rebuttal to CC, but I'm too busy right now to argue with him. Besides, he's a paid internet "influencer", and given how much he slings lies for the DNC I wouldn't be surprised if the DNC was cutting him a paycheck.

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, June 26, 2020 8:53 PM

Here's a weak ass lie:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, I have a point-by-point rebuttal to CC, but I'm too busy right now to argue with him.

Don't bother.

Followed by another often repeated, even weaker lie:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Besides, he's a paid internet "influencer", and given how much he slings lies for the DNC I wouldn't be surprised if the DNC was cutting him a paycheck.

You embarrass the sh*t out yourself every time you post.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 26, 2020 10:09 PM

No. You do.

At this point, wittingly or otherwise, you're an enemy to the future of America.

I'm through playing games with little soy swilling, Marxist turds that are trying to undermine our country and guilt trip people into thinking that Nationalism is a bad thing by always putting "White" in front of it.

Fuck your religion. Fuck your Marxisim. And fuck you, Captain.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Friday, June 26, 2020 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Here's a weak ass lie:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, I have a point-by-point rebuttal to CC, but I'm too busy right now to argue with him.

Don't bother.

Followed by another often repeated, even weaker lie:

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Besides, he's a paid internet "influencer", and given how much he slings lies for the DNC I wouldn't be surprised if the DNC was cutting him a paycheck.

You embarrass the sh*t out yourself every time you post.

Says the liar.

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WISHIMAY

Saturday, June 27, 2020 12:28 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Besides, he's a paid internet "influencer", and given how much he slings lies for the DNC I wouldn't be surprised if the DNC was cutting him a paycheck.

Not a very good one if he can't make absolutely mind-numbingly moronic narcissists like yourselves see how absolutely mind-numbingly moronic you really really really are.

Really.

I mean, it would take a god.

Completely delusional dumb asses

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:32 AM

Baaaaaaaa, says the sheep.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Sunday, June 28, 2020 2:26 PM

Still very busy, so I'm going to make this short:

To give you ONE example of what can be done, BLM has over a hundred million in its coffers right now. Instead of spending that money on tearing down statues (including statues of abolitionists ... what are these people, stupid or something?) why don't they put some up? Then people will LEARN history instead of censoring it.

I've seen pictures of various "problematic" statues and they are indeed "up on a pedastal". But I have an image in mind that I can't get rid of and I imagine it would stick in the minds of others as well: For every statue of some southern general, put up a statue of a family being torn apart at auction. Or better yet, a slave bowed down under the whip. Put these statues at ground level, make them detailed and realistic and life-sized so people can see them and touch them and identify with them. It will make the point that the southern elites got tbeir glory lierally on the backs of slaves. And who could possibly object?

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Pity would be no more,
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