Oh Please, Please, Please, Please, PLEASE DO IT!!!
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Murders were 16,214 (2018). Covid-19 deaths were 110,000. More of those Covid-19 Deaths were Trump's fault, because he wouldn't react to the pandemic since that would cause the stock market to crash, then all the murders in a year.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Well, ot course. Because big majorities are stupid enuf to believe the M$M, and that M$M has been pushing "blame Trump, blame Trump, blame Trump" over anything he says or doesn't say, and anything he does or doesn't do.
SIGNY:Quote:More black civilians killed by black civilians in one day than an entire year of murder by cop.
As BLM Protests Raged, Chicago Saw Highest Black-On-Black Murder Rate In 60 Years
Because it's the po-lice that are clearly the problem.
THUGR: Big majorities support protests over Floyd killing and say police need to change, poll finds
IN REALITY, way more black civilians are killed by black civilians than are killed by police, no matter where your dart lands on a map of the USA. How about solving THAT problem?
And IN REALITY, Trump has fuck-all to do with whatever local cops are doing: that's up the the mayors of the cities and governors of each state. And he has fuck-all to do with handling protests until he calls in the National Guard or the military.
But that's OK ... Americans also have the memory of goldfish, and they will forget this ever happened in a month. That's another part of their induced stupidity.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Lockdown Delays Cost at Least 36,000 Lives, Data Show
www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
A good reason why people shouldn't be out protesting cheek by jowl, much less riotig and looting.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Signym, you did not acknowledge that Trump's inaction on Covid-19, because he didn't want the stock market to crash, killed 36,000. Signym, you never acknowledged that Trump cancelling every nuclear weapon treaty could kill millions. You wanted a loose cannon and you got it with Trump.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A good reason why people shouldn't be out protesting cheek by jowl, much less riotig and looting.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#WEARAMASK
Fumbling the nuclear football: is Trump blundering to arms control chaos?
www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/24/nuclear-weapons-donald-trump-arm
s-control-chaos
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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One of the things I learned from an ex-CHP officer is that it's nearly - but not quite - impossible to reform an organizational culture that's been baked-in for a long time.
Many decades ago, the CHP had a reputation nearly as bad as any local southern sheriff. Procedures were ad hoc. The scope for abuses was wide. Public trust was low. But in 1970 the "Newhall incident" led the CHP Commissioner Harold W. Sullivan to bring in an outsider (whose name I forget and can't track down) to reform the CHP. I honestly have been trying to find for a long time who that was and how he did it - because indeed he accomplished the near-impossible and did reform the culture in-place. The result was the CHP became for many decades a highly respected organization, with a high level of competence and integrity, and a high degree of public trust. (They were the non-participating officers watching aghast as city cops beat Rodney King. The chase initiated on the 210fwy, but became local when King exited. At the time, the CHP had no clear authority on city streets.) To this day because of the procedures that were instituted back then, many people reflexively say "thank you" to the CHP officer after getting a ticket. It's a great positive example of that old NO saying 'what goes around, comes around'.
But the MLKJr/ Drew Medical Center hospital in Los Angeles is one of many stories of protracted ongoing failure - despite repeated changes in management, retraining and firing of staff, loss of federal money, loss of federal accreditation, and reducing, then closing, various units over time. This is from 2007:
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"Killer King Hospital"
The hospital, formerly known as Martin Luther King Jr.-Drew Medical Center, was built after the 1965 Watts riot to bring health care to poor, minority communities in south Los Angeles.
But it had been plagued by patient deaths blamed on sloppy nursing care, among other things. The county tried over the last few years to correct the problems with a multimillion-dollar rescue effort, disciplining workers, reorganizing management, closing the trauma unit and reducing the number of beds from 200 to 48.
After Rodriguez's death, federal reports showed those efforts were failing and patients were in "immediate jeopardy." Of the 60 cases reviewed between February and June, more than a quarter received substandard care, according to the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
In February, a brain tumor patient languished in the emergency room for four days before his family drove him to another hospital for emergency surgery. A pregnant woman who complained of bleeding was given a pregnancy test and left, only to return three days later and have a miscarriage after waiting more than four hours to see a doctor.
The findings have sent county officials scrambling to improve care before a federal inspection due by Aug. 15 that could determine whether the hospital keeps its federal funding. The county might close the facility without that money.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/killer-king-la-hospital-in-peril/
It was eventually finally completely shuttered in 2007, never to reopen.
Looking at previous reform examples, re-forming a police department that's been in place for many decades could be a difficult task, to say the least.
De-funding the police rather than trying to reform them one would hope would be only a first step - as it was in Camden, NJ, which closed down its existing police department in order to create a new and better one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camden_County_Police_Department
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:More black civilians killed by black civilians in one day than an entire year of murder by cop.
As BLM Protests Raged, Chicago Saw Highest Black-On-Black Murder Rate In 60 Years
Because it's the po-lice that are clearly the problem.
Big majorities support protests over Floyd killing and say police need to change, poll finds
Americans overwhelmingly support the nationwide protests that have taken place since the killing of George Floyd at the hands of police in Minneapolis, and they say police forces have not done enough to ensure that blacks are treated equally to whites, according to a Washington Post-Schar School poll.
President Trump receives negative marks for his handling of the protests, with 61 percent saying they disapprove and 35 percent saying they approve. Much of the opposition to Trump is vehement, as 47 percent of Americans say they strongly disapprove of the way the president has responded to the protests
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/big-majorities-support-protests-over
-floyd-killing-and-say-police-need-to-change-poll-finds/ar-BB15eTjO?ocid=msedgdhp
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They couldn't even be bothered to poll more people than die in a single day in the US from The Coomph?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/june-2-7-2020-washington-post-s
char-poll/6b811cdf-8f99-4e28-b8f1-c76df335c16a/
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A dual frame landlineand cellular phone telephone sample was generated by Marketing Systems Group (MSG) using Random Digit Dialing procedures. Interviewers called landlines and cellular phonen umbers. [u
For landline phones, interviewers first request to speak with the youngest adult male or female at home. Cellularphones are treated as individual devices and the interview is conducted with the adult answering the phone.The final sample included 305interviews completed on landlinesand701interviews completed via cellular phones, including 461interviews with adults in cell phone-only households.
LOL
Now... Why do you suppose they'd request to speak with the youngest "adult" in the home rather than the person that answered the land line phone?
And, as always, Liberal Poll polls more Liberals.
FAKE NEWS. FAKE POLL.
Came from WaPo. Bezos Approved.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, you did not acknowledge that Trump's inaction on Covid-19, because he didn't want the stock market to crash, killed 36,000. Signym, you never acknowledged that Trump cancelling every nuclear weapon treaty could kill millions. You wanted a loose cannon and you got it with Trump.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A good reason why people shouldn't be out protesting cheek by jowl, much less riotig and looting.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#WEARAMASK
Fumbling the nuclear football: is Trump blundering to arms control chaos?
www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/24/nuclear-weapons-donald-trump-arm
s-control-chaos
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
No. Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, CNN, MSNBC and all of your trash rag Liberal Legacy Media sites calling Trump racist for trying to shut down international flights before it got here killed 36,000 people.
You, Second, are an accomplice to the killing of 36,000 people.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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American police shoot, kill and imprison more people than other developed countries. Here's the data:
www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/us/us-police-floyd-protests-country-comparisons
-intl/index.html
If every US state were counted as a country, the 31 countries with the highest incarceration rates in the world would all be US states, according to the Prison Policy Initiative. Oklahoma, Louisiana and Mississippi all have incarceration rates of over 1,000 per 100,000 people, meaning more than one in a hundred people in those states were prisoners in 2018. By comparison, the highest incarceration rate outside the US is in El Salvador, where 614 people per 100,000 are prisoners.
There was too much to take in at first. Too many videos of people getting beaten by police, too many city streets and public squares blurry with tear gas, too many fires and victims and officials and cities and storefronts to keep track of. It seemed at first that despite the size and scope of this uprising, some variant of the usual defeated amnesia might set in; people would settle into a familiar haze of horror, resignation, anger, and impotence. Drag themselves through one week into the next one, move on. But if Trump has perfected the politics of distraction, making it impossible to dwell on any single infraction by providing fresh abuses daily, these protests have somehow—despite or maybe because of the proliferation of shocking, unwarranted violence—done the opposite. They keep focusing Americans’ numb and unexercised attention on the problem. Over and over and over, with each new video, the point no one in power much wants to admit gets driven home: The police are out of control.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/buffalo-police-video-white
-america.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Video evidence increasingly disproves police narratives
Minneapolis police initially told the public that George Floyd died after a “medical incident during a police interaction.” The Buffalo, New York, department said a protester “tripped and fell." Philadelphia police alleged that a college student who suffered a serious head wound had assaulted an officer.
All three claims were quickly disproved by videos seen widely on the internet and television, fueling mistrust and embarrassing agencies that made misleading or incomplete statements that painted their actions in a far more favorable light.
Police departments deny lying but acknowledge sometimes making mistakes.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200610111813/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/news/article/Video-evidence-increasingly-disproves-police-15327787.php
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by THG:
Oh Please, Please, Please, Please, PLEASE DO IT!!! Is the title of this thread and something you both agree would lead to chaos and conflict? It’s one thing to hold that opinion but to wish for it? Especially in these times. When I see Jack wish for something terrible to happen so he can revel in it; I'm disgusted.
I think you missed the point of the title to this thread G? Jack wants to see and enjoy the anarchy, the state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority he believes this will bring; again degusting.
Hey T. No, I got Jack's title (no matter what he says now). No, I don't WANT it to fail, I just don't think it can succeed. I think times are such that people might be over reaching and dreaming just a bit.
I definitely HOPE MPLS tries whatever they decide defunding and dismantling ends up being (looks like they will), because there will never be a better time for it - public sentiment is never going to be so receptive and passionate for trying something so audacious. MPLS is full of smart people, forward thinking people - if "it" can work anywhere in the US they have a good chance. Something needs to be done for sure - lots of momentum for this..
I'm lean more toward WISHY when it comes to trusting People. Don't!
I get what you're saying G but defunding the police is being portrayed as though it means closing the police department. It doesn't. I am heading to work so this will be a less than adequate response, but think of making a 911 call. If you need a fireman they send one. If you need an ambulance they send one. Now think about other underfunded services being funded better so If you need them calling 911 will get you that assistance. Sorry, but as I said I am rushed by my need to get to work.
T
Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
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SECOND: Your three and a half years of manic posting about Trump has discredited anything further you might post on him. Global climate shift isn't Trump's fault, neither is police brutality, the wealth gap, or the hollowing out of the American exonomy. These are systemic problems of longstanding, created by politicians of both parties over the last four or more decades. Since Trump was not the cause, his presence - or absence - isn't going to be "The" solution either. Covid was going to be a shit sandwhich and no matter what Trump did or didn't do you would have blamed him for something: either collapsing the economy or letting people die. Another example: If Trump had restricted protests because of Covid you would rail about him ending free speech. Since he didn't, you will blame him for increase in Covid deaths.
Hell, you've been hounding him about tax cheating even tho there's no evidence, blaming him for entirely fictitious "misdeeds" like collusion with Russia, and "quid pro quo" Ukrainegate.
Why stop there? (HINT: I know you won't!)
That's why your posts are all blah-blah-blah: A pointless exercise in your equally pointless vendetta.
Not that I've taken you off "ignore", just explaining why you're there and not likely to come off for the foreseeable future.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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