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Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:12 PM

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Lies and bullshit are Trump's technique. And SECOND's. And the deep state's. And the M$M's. They accuse others of doing what they do. The president, the deep state, the M$M, and SECOND, cannot recognize, much less deal with, reality.
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SECOND can't even deal with a movie script that doesn't end the way he wanted it to.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:20 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Lies and bullshit are Trump's technique. And SECOND's. And the deep state's. And the M$M's. They accuse others of doing what they do. The president, the deep state, the M$M, and SECOND, cannot recognize, much less deal with, reality.
FIFY

SECOND can't even deal with a movie script that doesn't end the way he wanted it to.

Anyone who gave Trump’s (or Signym's) statements a millisecond of thought would know that he makes up stories on the spot. But here’s the rub: According to Baker, the Times‘ chief White House correspondent, thinking is not part of his job. As he explained recently, “I never make up my mind…that one candidate is better than another, that one side is right and the other wrong.” He may as well have issued an embossed invitation to politicians to lie to him.

But again, the problem here—whether it’s the Times or the countless institutions for which it defines journalistic standards—goes beyond purposeful gullibility toward a pathological liar, served up in the guise of accountability journalism. It is that the media reports Trump’s words in a manner that intentionally obscures his obvious ignorance. Referring to the president’s bizarro March 2 meeting with members of the pharmaceutical industry, Baker and his colleague Michael Crowley wrote that “Mr. Trump has made himself the primary source of information to the public with mixed results. Appearing before cameras sometimes multiple times a day to talk about the coronavirus, he has offered a consistently rosier assessment of the situation than health experts and has put forth unproven or even false assertions.” This is strong language for the Times, but it nevertheless fails to convey that the president kept repeating one harebrained statement after another, even after they were repeatedly corrected on camera.

www.thenation.com/article/society/trump-bullshit-coronavirus/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:13 PM

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1kiki, your mission is to troll.
Here's a question for you, SECOND. What does your trolling have to do with the topic "Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"?

Maybe you can actually answer the question this (third) time.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:53 PM

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1kiki, your mission is to troll.
Here's a question for you, SECOND? What does your trolling have to do with the topic "Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"?

Maybe you can actually answer the question this time.

I answered you, but you are too articulate yet too stupid to understand. I bet that combination has gotten you in trouble many times when you ran your mouth to the wrong people. God couldn't stop you from talking, but maybe God is protecting you from me. I've been waiting years for you keep your promises to sue me for libel. Maybe God stepped in, gave you a twinge of fear, because if you do sue, your problems will multiply out of control. Make my day, 1kiki. Immolate yourself in court.

‘I don’t hate Donald, I hate you’ — Howard Stern, a longtime Trump friend, blasts those who voted for him. “I hate you for voting for him, for not having intelligence. For not being able to see what’s going on with the coronavirus, for not being able to see what the Justice Department is doing. I hate you, I don’t want you here.”

Stern went on to say that Trump would be “disgusted” by the MAGA crew. “Go to Mar-a-Lago, see if there is any people who look like you,” he said. “The oddity in all of this is the people Trump despises most, love him the most.”

His advice to Trump? Do the right thing.

“I do think it would be extremely patriotic of Donald to say, ‘I’m in over my head and I don’t want to be president anymore,’” he said, while acknowledging that is not likely to happen. Stern, who has had the president on his show many times over his storied career in broadcasting, has long held the contention that Trump never wanted to actually win the election.

“I don’t think it was serious. I don’t think he wanted to be the president. I knew him. He had a great life at Mar-a-Lago.”

www.marketwatch.com/story/i-dont-hate-donald-i-hate-you-howard-stern-a
-longtime-trump-friend-blasts-those-who-voted-for-him-2020-05-13


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:55 PM


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1kiki, your mission is to troll.
Here's a question for you, SECOND. What does your trolling have to do with the topic "Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"?

Maybe you can actually answer the question this (fourth) time.

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 5:10 AM

"Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?"

There are a lot more things more horrific that have happened to us humans than Coivd-19, as far as I'm concerned - like for example, the Black Death. So I don't know why one would pick this particular example.

But in general, I think the question boils down to belief. On the face of it, if a god has, as we're taught to believe, us humans lovingly in mind, then COVID-19 makes no sense. Even further, the suffering and death of infants who never did anything bad to anybody makes even less sense. Or, if you believe in reincarnation, and suffering and death are just rewards for a previous life, then how do you explain all the many extra lives on the planet? Sooner or later, you have to invoke belief to erase the many conundrums you encounter in any religion. (I exempt the Tao, because it doesn't have a god(s) and requires no beliefs to countervail experience, which makes it imo a philosophy.)

As for me, personally, when I thought about it as a pre-teen, I pretty quickly realized that there was no way to prove or disprove the existence of her/ him/ it/ them. So I have no opinion about the actual existence of god(s).

But when it comes to religion, they ALL promise to be The ONE & ONLY REAL DEAL© (accept no substitutions!), with eternal damnation for everyone else. And I rankled at the idea that salvation could be so arbitrary as to condemn virtually the entire human race for the sin of being born in the wrong time, at the wrong place. As proposed by religions, salvation is a roulette wheel, except the chances of winning are infinitesimally small.

As I got older, I also realized that every religion claims that god(s) is unknowable, and then has the gall to tell you exactly what god wants from you, because - somehow - they know the unknowable mind of god. To me, that made the religion hucksters about as honest as card sharks.

That's not to say that I haven't known honorable people who're deeply religious. And they include Christians, Muslims, and Hindus, as well as some Confucians. But they were the ones who quietly tried to live the precepts in their hearts and actions, not the loudmouthed charlatans. One might call those honorable people the publicans.

My opinion, of course.

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 6:46 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Are you even familiar with a book called The Bible?
There's shit that happened in there that makes The Coomph look like a stubbed toe.




Figures PizzaGate brain would compare parting the red sea with a virus. Keep swinging, genius. You can't compare a work of science fiction with real life. Other than for contrasts and differences.



Are you mental?

Even an ignorant moron like yourself surely has heard of the Noah's Arc story. When The Coomph kills 99.99% of everybody and every animal on the planet except for 2 of each, get back to me.

Job was great read too. When Satan goaded God into killing his most devout worshipers' entire family after destroying his livelihood just to prove that it's when a man has everything taken away from him that his faith is the strongest.
You should probably understand at least the basic fundamentals of a God that you are trashing before you open your mouth. The Coomph doesn't have shit on other crap God pulled in the Bible.




What, you believe those really happened? Like I said... science fiction v real life... people who believed Pizzagate would believe the Bible was real.





No.

You said this:

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Figures PizzaGate brain would compare parting the red sea with a virus.


I wasn't comparing the parting of the red sea with a virus. You're either unintentionally or purposefully missing my point.

My point is that this little cold that has you shitting yourself is laughable in the face of stories in a book that people have been reading for thousands of years. Stories such as Noah's Arc about the absolute decimation of the world as well as stories such as Job that show God to be petty and willing to ruin the life of one of his most devout followers by destroying his livelihood before killing everyone he loved just to prove to Satan that when a man has nothing left he's even more inclined to follow.


I'm not a believer. I don't believe that any of the stories in the Bible are real. They are fables that teach moral lessons, not too dissimilar from fairy tales pre-Disney bastardization.



However, your OP title and question is stupid.

Given the content that people have already been reading for thousands of years in the Bible stacked against this not-at-all-scary virus out there, The Coomph would never disprove the existence of God. Certainly not in the minds of those who already believe and love him despite the horrible things in that book.


Look at yourself and realize that your Atheism is a religion onto itself. It takes just as much faith to believe that there is not a higher power as it takes to believe that there is.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:03 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"Does Covid-19 disprove the existence of God?" . . .

As for me, personally, when I thought about it as a pre-teen, I pretty quickly realized that there was no way to prove or disprove the existence of her/ him/ it/ them. So I have no opinion about the actual existence of god(s).

There is a way to prove it, 1kiki, but you started being wrong early in life and never stopped. Into the 20th Century, physicists were denying the existence of the atom even though chemists were not. The reason one denied and other did not? It is a long history.
www.encyclopedia.com/science/science-magazines/historic-dispute-are-at
oms-real


The existence of atoms was denied until there was a sudden flip-flop in belief. Now almost the entire world believes based on the say-so of a few actual scientists. The same is possible with the existence of God. God won't have to do more than atoms did to prove they exist and the change in belief won't depend on what a few experimental scientists have documented. What would that proof be? Some examples:

“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
— Donald Trump

If Covid-19 disappears, that is proof God exists.

“I resign. Mike Pence is now President.”
— Donald Trump

That is proof God exists.

Quotes that suggest Trump is passively leaving his work to be done by God’s hands are in the article: ‘It’s going to disappear’: Trump’s changing tone on coronavirus
www.politico.com/news/2020/03/17/how-trump-shifted-his-tone-on-coronav
irus-134246

For weeks, the president downplayed the threat of a global pandemic even as others warned otherwise.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:29 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Look at yourself and realize that your Atheism is a religion onto itself. It takes just as much faith to believe that there is not a higher power as it takes to believe that there is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, it takes no effort, no faith, no nothing to disbelieve in a Hollow Earth. Hollow Earth is on the same mental plane of existence as God.
www.wired.com/2014/07/fantastically-wrong-hollow-earth/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Earth

It takes no effort, no faith, no nothing to disbelieve in Trump, yet some are 100% certain he will be reelected.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 10:45 PM

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There is a way to prove it
Then prove it.

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