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Some Covid-19 thoughts

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Monday, May 11, 2020 7:33 PM

Donald Trump said something Friday that should have ended his re-election prospects the moment it left his mouth:

“I feel about vaccines like I feel about tests. This is going to go away without a vaccine, it’s gonna go away, and we’re not going to see it again, hopefully.”

Trump asserts that coronavirus will fix itself. If you think about it, that actually makes some sense, because every other problem in his Trump’s life has.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/05/09/trump-has-no-fixer-to-make-co
vid-19-go-away
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Monday, May 11, 2020 9:18 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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US Has 'Limited' Ability To Manufacture Coronavirus Treatments, Vaccines
Or PPEs, for that matter. Or fine chemicals. Or steel. Or plastic. Or housewares. Or just about anything that you base a modern economy on.

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A pharmaceutical company CEO says that while the United States may have the capability to deliver coronavirus treatments - if and when available - that the US has limited capacity to manufacture said treatments.

"Our distribution capabilities work. I'm not worried about that," said Leonard Schleifer, CEO of pharmaceutical company Regeneron, which is working on a coronavirus treatment. "Our manufacturing capacity, on the other hand...I think our capacity is limited," he added.



It's not only a 100=year pandemic to prepare for. There is a whole list of catastrophes and disasters, both natural and manmade, that can affect your standard of living.

One example, which I've brought up more than once, is THE factory in Japan that made THE plastic used in memories. When it burned down, manufacturing halted.

Aside from preparedness and robustness, there is the issue of "balance of trade". The USA gets to buy alottacrap because we have the world reserve currency. The same is not true for other nations... you don't get to endlessly buy without being able to exchange something of real value.

One of these days, our reserve currency status is going to end and other nations will refuse to accept the dollar as the worth less currency that it is. There is nothing backing the almighty dollar except our almighty gunboats.

And finally ... people have a need to ensure their survival thru some direct means. It is millenia of evolution behind it, which rewards us when we spot a shriveled twig that we know means a yummy tuber in the ground, or we've organized a hunt and finally brought down that monkey/deer that will feed us.

As SIX said, people need a purpose. They need agency over their future. One way to assure that agency is to make sure that there is valued, productive work to be done.


Look - you have mostly really good but unworkable ideas. You're a bit like Trump thinking we can stick a light in our lungs to kill Covid. IF THAT WAS SUCH A GREAT, WORKABLE IDEA, then wouldn't someone(s) much smarter than Trump have already thought it up, and wouldn't we already have it? Great ideas are everywhere. On paper they are worthless.



Unworkable ideas that do not lead to discovery are stupid ideas. A waste of time. We all have them. Sig more than most.

T


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THG
Monday, May 11, 2020 9:26 PM

T

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THG
Monday, May 11, 2020 9:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

US Has 'Limited' Ability To Manufacture Coronavirus Treatments, Vaccines
Or PPEs, for that matter. Or fine chemicals. Or steel. Or plastic. Or housewares. Or just about anything that you base a modern economy on.

Quote:

A pharmaceutical company CEO says that while the United States may have the capability to deliver coronavirus treatments - if and when available - that the US has limited capacity to manufacture said treatments.

"Our distribution capabilities work. I'm not worried about that," said Leonard Schleifer, CEO of pharmaceutical company Regeneron, which is working on a coronavirus treatment. "Our manufacturing capacity, on the other hand...I think our capacity is limited," he added.



It's not only a 100=year pandemic to prepare for. There is a whole list of catastrophes and disasters, both natural and manmade, that can affect your standard of living.

One example, which I've brought up more than once, is THE factory in Japan that made THE plastic used in memories. When it burned down, manufacturing halted.

Aside from preparedness and robustness, there is the issue of "balance of trade". The USA gets to buy alottacrap because we have the world reserve currency. The same is not true for other nations... you don't get to endlessly buy without being able to exchange something of real value.

One of these days, our reserve currency status is going to end and other nations will refuse to accept the dollar as the worth less currency that it is. There is nothing backing the almighty dollar except our almighty gunboats.

And finally ... people have a need to ensure their survival thru some direct means. It is millenia of evolution behind it, which rewards us when we spot a shriveled twig that we know means a yummy tuber in the ground, or we've organized a hunt and finally brought down that monkey/deer that will feed us.

As SIX said, people need a purpose. They need agency over their future. One way to assure that agency is to make sure that there is valued, productive work to be done.


Look - you have mostly really good but unworkable ideas. You're a bit like Trump thinking we can stick a light in our lungs to kill Covid. IF THAT WAS SUCH A GREAT, WORKABLE IDEA, then wouldn't someone(s) much smarter than Trump have already thought it up, and wouldn't we already have it? Great ideas are everywhere. On paper they are worthless.



Unworkable ideas that do not lead to discovery are stupid ideas. A waste of time. We all have them. Sig more than most.

T



T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.


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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 2:38 AM

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CC: Look - you have mostly really good but unworkable ideas. You're a bit like Trump thinking we can stick a light in our lungs to kill Covid. IF THAT WAS SUCH A GREAT, WORKABLE IDEA, then wouldn't someone(s) much smarter than Trump have already thought it up, and wouldn't we already have it? Great ideas are everywhere. On paper they are worthless.


Where on god's green earth did you get the idea that things are "working" now???

It's not Covid-19. Covid-19 simply revealed just how moth-eaten our economy (and society) became. Not in the past 3 years, but in the past 50. I graduated into the job market when all of the steel mills were shutting down, back in 1976. That was just a harbinger of things to come.

THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT THIS SYSTEM IS REALLY "WORKING" FOR ARE THE LLYOD BLANKFEINS AND JAMIE DIMONS AND JEFF BEZOS. The system is tolerable for maybe the top 5%, but for everyone else, NOTHING is "working.

But the people in power, those for whom the system is "working", are making the decisions. And because the system is "working" ... for them ... they will decide to change NOTHING.





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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:08 AM

I guess what I'm saying is ... wake up and smell the coffee. Show some mental courage. Stop pretending that things are "working" or that this is all Trump's fault, or all because of Covid-19. and everything would be just fine without him/it. Occupy occurred three years into Obama's reign, remember? The Fed is the greatest driver of wealth inequality in the USA today.

If we're going to solve any of our big problems we have to ackowledge our deeper failings. It's not just Trump, or Democrats, or Republicans, or white men, or long-past slavery, or whatever teeny-tiny flaw you think is at fault.

The problem is structural. We may not be able to "do" anything about it, but we should at least have the courage to see things for what they are.




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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:29 AM

Our financial markets, for over 30 years. See the kids chasing the bubbles? Those are our investors.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:29 AM

Sat down and watched tonight Premier John Horgan and Dr. Bonnie Henry do a virtual townhall. They answered questions that were sent in from the public by email and video.

BC is on track as I said for careful reopening which includes parks as we have a long weekend coming up.

BC has for the third time since this all started logged a day of single digit cases. Only 7.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:59 PM



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THG
Wednesday, May 13, 2020 5:43 PM

Putin's coronavirus crisis deepens with fatal hospital fire and spokesman's diagnosis

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-coronavirus-crisis-deepen
s-with-fatal-hospital-fire-and-spokesman-s-diagnosis/ar-BB13Xxpo?ocid=msedgntp


T

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