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Some Covid-19 thoughts

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Sunday, May 24, 2020 4:31 AM

Retail slowly opening up in my area of where I live.

Actually ate in a restaurant about 3 times last week.

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Sunday, May 24, 2020 4:33 AM

News is so-so for Ontario and Quebec. Their infection rates are still high but their death rates seem to be dropping.

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Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:47 AM



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Monday, May 25, 2020 4:35 PM

OMG that is too funny!!!

That was one of my favorite songs when I was young, and I was JUST listening to it a few days ago (along with To Sir With Love and other moldly oldies) and thinking about how times have changed! And they did a such nice job, too. Thanks for the laughs!

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Tuesday, May 26, 2020 1:45 PM

Ok,so SOME scientists are not putting the idea of a deliberately cultured virus out ofthe realm of possibility because SARS-Cov2 not only has an unusual insertion which makes the virus fuse easily with human cells (substituting arginine) but it has a much higher affinity for human ACE-2 sites than for any other possible animal host that they tested.

Also, BTW, the "gain of function" research was being done on a lab in N CAROLINA. The Chinese contributor to the paper merely supplied animal-sourced coronaviruses to the (American) lab that was doing the actual research.

So, bear with me while I take you on a woo-woo conspiracy theory. Keep in mind that this is pure speculation, but it DOES cause a number of puzzle pieces to fit together.

Anyone who has ever scanned the alt-news websites - Jim Willie, Michael Hudson, Max Keiser, and too many others to name - have been warning for YEARS that WWIII was pretty much a foregone conclusion.

Why?

Because debt at all levels and in all sectors was so high that it could NEVER be repaid. (I agree with that.) They have been saying that the system needs some sort of giant shock, and big distraction - like WWIII - in order to justify cranking up the bank's debt-creation machines to become the lenders and buyers of last resort, ultimate owners of the New world order. Either that, or there was going to have to be a -very unlikely -debt jubilee (Hudson), or a whole new currency would have to be created and the USD reserve currency scrapped (Willie). Take your pick; but whatever happened it was it was going to have to be big, HUGE, on par with the debt overhang.

Well, despite provocations by the deep state (Ukraine, Syria) and Trump's vey own foreign policy peeps (Bolt-on, Pompous) WWIII has not come about.

Hmmm.... what would fill the bill and justify a giant bank and stock market bailout even better than WWIII?

How about a world pandemic, and the shuttering of economies, leading to "stimulus" lending in which - somehow- 95% of the spending favored 0.1% of the people?

Sounds like a recipe for success! At least, if you happen to be a member of the elite financiers.

Do you suppose this virus and lockdown was the central banks' alternative to WWIII?





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Tuesday, May 26, 2020 5:38 PM

Personally, imo, there's just too much weird with SARS-COV-2 for it to be naturally evolved. Though there's always a possibility that it is, I just don't think so.

So, where does one point the finger. I entirely mistrust the media on this. Anyway, in the absence of hard data, the thing that makes me lean toward the US and away from China is how quiet the media is about any potential US participation. Any reporter doing their job should be able to get a list of public and private grants to coronavirus research in N. Carolina. And to me, the silence is deafening. The question isn't even being raised. It looks even more than that - it looks detoured. hushed up, suppressed. So that looks suspicious to me.

I think the next question I'd want answered is the genetic lineages of the various strains going around. I would like to see the geographic origins and spread. It's complex in the sense that it takes a lot of unraveling. But, as an example, if you have three strains, and one strain has alteration A, another has alterations AB, and another has alterations ABC, it's completely possible to figure out which came first, second, and third. If you can find out where the genetically first strain is located, you can find the geographic point of origin. I think where would go a long way to helping clear up the mystery of who. With extra research in the area, who would also help clear up when.

And that imo would go a long way to helping clear up the why.

Anyway, there does seem to be a dearth of hard evidence on a lot of these questions. So while I myself think it's genetically modified by people, maybe even in the US, I have no settled opinion on the rest.

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Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:57 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ok,so SOME scientists are not putting the idea of a deliberately cultured virus out ofthe realm of possibility because SARS-Cov2 not only has an unusual insertion which makes the virus fuse easily with human cells (substituting arginine) but it has a much higher affinity for human ACE-2 sites than for any other possible animal host that they tested.

Also, BTW, the "gain of function" research was being done on a lab in N CAROLINA. The Chinese contributor to the paper merely supplied animal-sourced coronaviruses to the (American) lab that was doing the actual research.

So, bear with me while I take you on a woo-woo conspiracy theory. Keep in mind that this is pure speculation, but it DOES cause a number of puzzle pieces to fit together.

Anyone who has ever scanned the alt-news websites - Jim Willie, Michael Hudson, Max Keiser, and too many others to name - have been warning for YEARS that WWIII was pretty much a foregone conclusion.

Why?

Because debt at all levels and in all sectors was so high that it could NEVER be repaid. (I agree with that.) They have been saying that the system needs some sort of giant shock, and big distraction - like WWIII - in order to justify cranking up the bank's debt-creation machines to become the lenders and buyers of last resort, ultimate owners of the New world order. Either that, or there was going to have to be a -very unlikely -debt jubilee (Hudson), or a whole new currency would have to be created and the USD reserve currency scrapped (Willie). Take your pick; but whatever happened it was it was going to have to be big, HUGE, on par with the debt overhang.

Well, despite provocations by the deep state (Ukraine, Syria) and Trump's vey own foreign policy peeps (Bolt-on, Pompous) WWIII has not come about.

Hmmm.... what would fill the bill and justify a giant bank and stock market bailout even better than WWIII?

How about a world pandemic, and the shuttering of economies, leading to "stimulus" lending in which - somehow- 95% of the spending favored 0.1% of the people?

Sounds like a recipe for success! At least, if you happen to be a member of the elite financiers.

Do you suppose this virus and lockdown was the central banks' alternative to WWIII?




Nope. Who would unleash something as uncontrollable as a virus unless they had a vaccine already in the bag? Your conspiracy theory makes no sense. Plus, this is hurting the 1% and the people they prey on - making loans to people who go bankrupt... Plus, plus, it's just ridiculous idea as usual.

Keep trying though!

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Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:08 PM

Not hurting the 0.01% tho. Jamie Dimon, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos. Zuckerberg, Carlos "slim" Huelga, Llyod Blankfein ... they are doing quite well! And as far as I know,none of them have gotten sick. Who says they don't have a vaccine already anyway? If they did, and this was their plan, do you think they'd tell YOU?

And look where all of the big bailout money is going! Is it going to you?
Me?

Nope! The Fed just printed THREE TRILLION dollars. Yanno, those trillions of dollars that somehow just can't be coughed up for something as inconsequential as healthcare, but magically appears whenever the big banks/stock markets/hedge funds start to swoon.

Cui bono?

BTW SIX, it's not that this is any sort of "fake" pandemic. Nations across the globe and of all economic persuasions ... nations which aren't in the Basel western banking club ... Russia, Iran, Venezuela (not sure if I can include China because it too blows economic bubbles) .... have also "locked down". It's possible that is the only logical and rational first response. All the better for the big western banks, since economic chaos and a blizzard of bailout money would be their goal. Now, if only Macron can get those ECB "Corona bonds" going ...

Anyway, like I said: Just a thought.

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Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:17 PM

My only question is why didn't they spread a much more deadly virus if this was some sort of Agenda 2030 thing?

Huge missed opportunity, IMO. They've already trashed the world economy for at least a decade. Why not lower the population by 25% at the same time instead of wiping out less people in a year than die from automobile accidents... most of whom were close to checking out anyhow.



I don't think this was intentional. At least, I don't think it being released was. It's very possible that it was still genetically modified by humans though, and was somehow let out prematurely (or despite no intentions to release it at all at any point).




I have to ask myself "who wins?" if this was all according to plan. China certainly didn't make any friends over this, and they're probably hurting more than we are financially. Both right now and in the forseeable future. The "elites" here? Again... why not wipe out a much larger portion of the world population and only take a half-measure that ensures nearly everyone stays alive but the economy gets tanked.



We've got 35 Million people in this country alone right now who have heard for months from politicians, scientists, the media and Karens worldwide that what they did for a living wasn't essential.

Why not just kill them all off if this was the plan?

Take a moment to empathize with any one of these 35 million people who have spent the last 60 or so days listening to everybody tell them that their existence is worthless.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, May 27, 2020 1:22 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My only question is why didn't they spread a much more deadly virus if this was some sort of Agenda 2030 thing?

Huge missed opportunity, IMO. They've already trashed the world economy for at least a decade. Why not lower the population by 25% at the same time instead of wiping out less people in a year than die from automobile accidents

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.. most of whom were close to checking out anyhow.
Wrong.

But, good question: why not kill off a bunch of people? Maybe because if you kill off enough people, SOME wealth will concentrate among the sheeple, and the goal is to make the sheeple poor, not to make people dead?


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I don't think this was intentional. At least, I don't think it being released was. It's very possible that it was still genetically modified by humans though, and was somehow let out prematurely (or despite no intentions to release it at all at any point).
I'm not saying it was, either. Altho there is some speculation that the virus was developed here and sent (via international games held in China) to China via USA athletes. But I do have to ask: Cui bono?

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I have to ask myself "who wins?" if this was all according to plan. China certainly didn't make any friends over this, and they're probably hurting more than we are financially. Both right now and in the foreseeable future. The "elites" here? Again... why not wipe out a much larger portion of the world population and only take a half-measure that ensures nearly everyone stays alive but the economy gets tanked.
China doesn't win. As "factory tho the world" their real economy suffered more than ours (so far). "Fortress Russia" turned out not to be impregnable to a virus. many of the large, poor, disorganized nations ... India, Brazil, Bangladesh, Indonesia ... will take a big death toll hit. The only winner so far is The Fed because it has 'lent' many big banks ... including international ones ... an unimaginable amount of money and now has them in thrall. The EU central bank (ECB) so far has not been able to crank up digital money-creation because the nation backstopping such loans ... Germany... won't go along with it.


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We've got 35 Million people in this country alone right now who have heard for months from politicians, scientists, the media and Karens worldwide that what they did for a living wasn't essential.
It isn't. If you can drop out of the workforce and nobody goes hungry or naked or sick or unhoused, then what were you doing, exactly? Polishing doorknobs?

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Why not just kill them all off if this was the plan?
Why would the elite kill off a bunch of people? Has it not occurred to you that the elite want an entire WORLD full of desperately poor people who have no control over their future? Maybe their idea of heaven is billions of people in such miserable conditions that they're willing to do ANYthing ... sell their kidneys, their hearts, their babies ... to extend the lives of the elite. Yanno, their idea of heaven could be our idea of hell.

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Take a moment to empathize with any one of these 35 million people who have spent the last 60 or so days listening to everybody tell them that their existence is worthless.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And here I am, telling them that they should get up off their asses, step away from whatever screen they're looking at, and MAKE themselves essential. Take back control of government and economic policy. Stop begging for "more of the same but worse" and start working towards something better.

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